North Korea Says It Is "Ready For Nuclear War" With The US

A Russian lawmaker on Friday said that North Korea doesn’t want nuclear war with the US - but that the country is “morally ready” for war after US threats, and if it's left with no other option, RIA reported. At the same time, Russia's foreign minister, Sergei Lavrov, chimed in, and according to interfax, said there are people in Washington "who wish to provoke Pyongyang to reckless actions" and warned the US that if it "wants to destroy North Korea" then it is playing with fire and making a great mistake.

In this context, some have speculated that should Rex Tillerson leave the Trump admin, once the former Exxon CEO - who has been the most vocal opponent to a North Korea war - departs, then North Korea's challenge may be promptly answered by the various generals currently inhabiting the White House. 

These remarks followed reports early Friday that North Korea would agree to peace talks with the US if the international community is ready to recognize it as a nuclear power. The news was relayed by a Russian delegation to Pyongyang. The delegation added that the North believes it was forced to be aggressive and that the country won’t give up its nukes under any circumstances.

“[Pyongyang] are ready to talk, however the [North] Korean side has its own condition – it should be recognized as a nuclear power,” Vitaly Pashin, a member of the Russian delegation, told news agencies upon their return. The North is now ready to negotiate with Washington “under parity terms” with the participation of Russia as a third party, he added.

Tensions spiked earlier this week when the North carried out its first missile launch in more than two months, ending the longest period of calm so far this year, when it test fired the country's first true ICBM. Observers noted that the Hwasong-15 missile reached an unprecedented height of 4,500 kilometers, and flew for more than 50 minutes. Experts have concluded that the North now likely has the capability to strike anywhere in the continental US.

On Thursday, Nikki Haley, the US ambassador to the United Nations, warned Wednesday that the North Korean regime "will be utterly destroyed" in a war with the US.

"We have never sought war with North Korea, and still today we do not seek it," ambassador Haley said at a meeting of the UN Security Council. "If war does come, it will be because of continued acts of aggression like we witnessed yesterday."

"And if war comes, make no mistake, the North Korean regime will be utterly destroyed," Haley said, something which Kim clearly disagrees with.

Russia and China have repeatedly pushed the US and the North to agree to talks. The two powers have proposed a solution whereby the US and South Korea would agree to halt their military drills if the North halts its nuclear program.


yomutti2 BaBaBouy Fri, 12/01/2017 - 11:06 Permalink

 If NK doesn't abandon its nukes, they will wind up in a shooting war with the US. And if that happens, there will be about 25 million dead North Koreans. But on the plus side, the South Koreans will find it easy and cheap to re-integrate the handful of survivors into the new Korea. This is actually a really important lesson to get out to the world. Iraq and Libya have taught the world that your government can be overthrown if you give up the nukes. NK will teach the world that your entire population becomes extinct if you don't give up the nukes. The latter lesson is the only way to prevent the entire world from having nuclear weapons.   

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yomutti2 land_of_the_few Fri, 12/01/2017 - 12:52 Permalink

There will be a Seoul, but it will need lots of rebuilding. And in any event, that's much better than taking a sizable risk of not having a Los Angeles and several other American cities. Engineering analysis of the Cold War standoff showed about 2% chance of accidental nuclear war per year. Even if the Norks could be as emotionally stable and as technically competent as the Soviets, (they can't) we're just not doing that with NK for the next 25 years. 

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French Bloke yomutti2 Fri, 12/01/2017 - 20:51 Permalink

Utter bullshit. In that case why don't the deep state square up to Russia & China re nukes, especially since Russia are the new No 1 enemy (fuck knows why)? Deep State zio's are full of shit, that's why. They will rant and rave and that's about it. Trump did his sales trip which will sell moar weapons to the dumb SE Asian states, all sold on fear factor. NK won't nuke anybody except in retaliation. You can sleep at night not worrying about that one, unless there's a false flag of course. They know they'd lose a war and are protecting themselves against an event such as that seen in the Korean war where they lost 25% of their population, all in the name of democracy. Ironic that Communism kills, democracy kills...And as for the accusation that NK have acted agressively, I'd ask "To whom?" Even the MSM haven't said anyone's been attacked. But self defence against the biggest terrorist state in the world is seen as agression these days (well, if you listen to the MSM anyway - which you obviously do). Good luck to the NK's if what they are doing is preventing those idiots ruling the USA starting yet another war, and at our expense.Go fuck yourself with your gay rainbow flagpole.

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shamus001 MonetaryApostate Fri, 12/01/2017 - 11:13 Permalink

OK. So now they gave successfully tested an ICBM and it worked.  With their pomp being slung all over the place "We're ready to utterly destroy the U.S." It would behoove the U.S. (talking war stratedgy here) to destroy NK quickly before it can mass produce these missiles (which it is in the process of doing right now as we speak)I respect sovereign rights of a country, but does ANYONE HERE BELIEVE that after decades of sanctions that NK is going to be nice on the playground? does anyone not believe they will be MORE ARROGANT than they previosly have been in the past 30 years? What has Japan done to them in the past 30 years? I recall no hostile acts? NO.... NK is just getting started, and "peace" is NOT their objective! 

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neversink BOPOH Fri, 12/01/2017 - 16:01 Permalink

Another anti-semetic idiot on ZH who counters every intelligent argument with "Zionists are the reason for all wrongs in the world." Let's see -- there are 14 million Jews in the world. That's somewhere around 0.0002 percent of the world's population respnsible for all the wrongs in the world.What a jerk you are!!!

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BarkingCat shamus001 Fri, 12/01/2017 - 11:48 Permalink

Go back a little further and see what Japan has done to them during World War II and prior to it. Go to the 1950s and see what the US has done to them. Then you understand why they want nuclear weapons.Kim's not crazy just like Trump is not crazy. Both are playing a strategic game that relies on bluster, just for different consumption. 

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Zip_the_Zap BaBaBouy Fri, 12/01/2017 - 11:21 Permalink

Just like ordinary Americans do not want a Constitutional Republic. They would rather have a police state that guarantees and endless supply of opiods, topless female starlets and negro NFL players titillating their memories of youthful glory, while chowing down on Papa John's Pizza and gallons of beer.

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TheBigOldDog Francis Marx Fri, 12/01/2017 - 10:53 Permalink

I am sure the NK people love living in the stone age, eating tree bark chasing the few remaining creatures with 4 legs in the hopes of a decent meal, all while their glorious leader snorts coke off the asses of his sex slaves and eats the finest foods and drinks the finest liquors the free world has to offer. Meanwhile, across the DMZ they watch a modern, healthy, prosperous nation continue to rise and its people live a life they can't even imagine. 

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Ajax-1 TheBigOldDog Fri, 12/01/2017 - 11:06 Permalink

The NK people don't know the difference. If you could somehow communicate with a sewer rat and ask what it is like living in the sewer, the rat would likely say that it is awesome, only because the rat has no basis of comparison. Case in point, not long ago I spoke to an old friend from my days in the Marine Corps who grew up in NYC.  I asked him if he planned on someday moving back to NYC? He suggested that now he knows that there are alternatives, he would never return to the sewer.

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techpriest Ajax-1 Fri, 12/01/2017 - 12:20 Permalink

It does make me wonder.... I know of 1 Chinese person, working at a state-owned company, who has entertained business partners from NK. Often times they will ask for particular "free world" items like iPhones (of course, they have no Internet, but *maybe* they live int he part of Pyongyang that has regular electricity), but otherwise none of those have later tried to escape.

Maybe the people that person knew were high enough up in the food chain (they were allowed to leave on business after all) have it good enough to want to stay. Either that, or at some level, they know that they are nothing outside of the petty kingdom, and would rather rule in a semi-medieval kingdom than lose it all and start over with nothing in a free society.

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null Francis Marx Fri, 12/01/2017 - 11:08 Permalink

It’s malpropists such as yourself who invade the English language with their whacked out definitions.

USA does not invade anything.
USA cleans up the mess of dumbasses who also probably don’t know what “invade” means.

USA enforces the resolutions of the UN, which is a different Problem.

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techpriest xcct Fri, 12/01/2017 - 12:23 Permalink

Well, the other option would have been to have gone ahead with an actual negotiation for surrender. However, we wanted to intimidate the world with our new terror weapon (think Cold War a few years later), and also force an unconditional surrender so we could put military bases in Japan, among other things.

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neversink techpriest Fri, 12/01/2017 - 16:06 Permalink

Let's pretend the Japanese did not have three programs to build a nuclear weapon. They did. And they were on the verge of testing one when the first nuclear weapon ever used in war was dropped on Japan. Let's forget that the wife of the head of the Japanese nucelar program stated that the Japanese would have defineitely used nuclear weapons if they had developed them first.

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