30,000 Evacuated As SoCal Wildfires Rage: "Prospects For Containment Are Not Good"

California Governor Jerry Brown has declared a State of Emergency in Ventura County due to the Thomas Fire.

“This fire is very dangerous and spreading rapidly, but we'll continue to attack it with all we've got,” Brown said.


“It's critical residents stay ready and evacuate immediately if told to do so.”

As SHTFplan.com's Mac Slavo details, over 27,000 people have been evacuated and 150 structures destroyed in another raging fire in California.

The fast-moving, wind-fueled wildfire swept into the city of Ventura early Tuesday, burning over 45,000 acres so far.

Of the 150 structures engulfed by the flames, was at least one large apartment complex. Engulfed in flames, the Hawaiian Village Apartments collapsed about 4 a.m., local time. Water gushed down North Laurel Street as firefighters worked to put out the flaming complex and residents watched with their cameras and cellphones out. Residents could hear the sound of propane tanks bursting. Many other buildings are threatened as the fire crept about a quarter-mile away from City Hall. Traffic jams were also reported as many fled their homes.

The blaze started at about 6:25 p.m. Monday in the foothills near Thomas Aquinas College in Santa Paula, a popular hiking destination. It grew quickly to more than 15 square miles in the hours that followed, consuming vegetation that hasn’t burned in decades, Ventura County Fire Sgt. Eric Buschow said.

Firefighters set up strike teams along foothill communities in Ventura and Santa Paula as the Thomas fire, pushed by 50-mph winds, inched close to homes.  The firefighters worked through the night to keep the fire from spreading.   Fire officials said the intensity of the fire, coupled with the high winds, made it pretty much unstoppable.

The prospects for containment are not good,” Ventura County Fire Chief Mark Lorenzen said at a news conference.


“Really, Mother Nature is going to decide.” By 5:20 a.m. Tuesday, winds were pushing flames toward Ojai Valley, authorities said.


 “The fire is actively burning in the city of Ventura and there are homes and buildings actively burning at this time,” Buschow said.


The Vista Del Mar Hospital, a psychiatric facility, was evacuated, authorities said. The area around a Ventura landmark called “Two Trees” has also burned. There have not been any human casualties reported yet, and more than 260,000 customers in Ventura and Santa Barbara counties were without power. As of 12:30 a.m. Tuesday, a Southern California Edison spokeswoman did not know when power could be restored.

Strong winds were pushing the blaze in a southwest direction toward Ventura and Highway 33, officials said.

About 500 firefighters were battling the blaze, or on their way there to assist. Fixed-wing aircraft and water-dropping helicopters are expected to attack the fire at daybreak. Numerous spot fires erupted as a result of the difficult conditions.



Bigly Pool Shark Tue, 12/05/2017 - 23:04 Permalink

When I lived there there (back when Hugh Grant was looking for action in the First Interstate Bank parking lot) there was an area just west of LaBrea, around Detroit Ave. where they actually had signs PROSTITUTION ABATEMENT ZONE. Like anybody read them!  The whole place is a joke. It always was, but now it's worse. It needs disinfected...stat.

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Slack Jack God Emperor Tue, 12/05/2017 - 19:43 Permalink

Record-Setting Hurricanes; Record temperatures; Record-Setting Wildfires; ya think it might be global warming?


So, why is the global rise in temperatures so worrisome?

For one thing, as temperatures rise good farmland will become desert (e.g., dust-bowl conditions will probably return to the American Midwest).

Another major problem is sea-level rise.

Have a look at http://pubs.usgs.gov/fs/fs2-00/

The U.S. Geological Survey people claim that;

The Greenland ice sheet melting will raise sea-level 6.55 meters (21.5 feet),
the West Antarctica ice sheet melting will raise sea-level 8.06 meters (26.4 feet),
the East Antarctica ice sheet melting will raise sea-level 64.8 meters (212.6 feet),
and all other ice melting will raise sea-level 0.91 meters (3 feet).

For a grand total of about 80 meters (263 feet).

So, what does an 80 meter (263 feet) rise in sea-level mean. Have a look at the following map of the world after an 80 meter rise. It means that over one billion people will have to be resettled to higher ground and that much of the most productive agricultural land will be under water. Fortunately, at current rates, the Greenland ice sheet will take over a thousand years to melt and the Antarctica ice sheet, much longer. However, the greater the temperature rise the faster the ice sheets will melt, bringing the problem much closer. Remember, the huge ice sheet that recently covered much of North America, almost completely melted in only 15,000 years (today, only the Greenland ice sheet, and some other small patches of it, remain). Since then (15,000 years ago), sea-levels have risen about 125 meters (410 feet), only 80 meters to go.

The ice sheets have been continuously melting for thousands of years. What is left of them today, is still melting, and will continue to melt. Human caused global warning will cause this remnant to melt significantly faster. This is a big, big, problem.

For HUGE detailed maps of the "World after the Melt" go to:


Global temperatures are increasing. And by quite a lot each year.

2016 is the hottest year on record for global temperatures.

This is 0.0380 degrees centigrade hotter than the previous record year which was 2015.

0.0380 is a large increase in just one year.

2015 was the hottest year (at that time) for global temperatures.

This was 0.1601 degrees hotter than the previous record year which was 2014.

0.1601 is an absolutely huge increase in just one year (at this rate temperatures would increase by 16 degrees in a century).

2014 was the hottest year (at that time) for global temperatures.

This was 0.0402 degrees hotter than the previous record year which was 2010.


The conspiracy to hide global warming data.

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) is given tax money to make global temperature records available to the public. However, certain people at NOAA continually sabotage this aspect of NOAA's mandate. For example, these people have (deliberately) sabotaged the web-page that delivers the temperature records.

Look for yourself:

Go to the page: https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/monitoring-references/faq/anomalies.php scroll down to the The Global Anomalies and Index Data section and click the download button and see what happens. Well, you get the message:

"Not Found. The requested URL /monitoring-references/faq/anomalies-download was not found on this server."

I guess that the 2017 data must be truly horrible if they have to hide it away.


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RiverDrifter Slack Jack Tue, 12/05/2017 - 19:59 Permalink

If you took the time just the dinosaurs roamed the Earth and consolidated that down into the space of a month, humans would take up roughly the last 15 minutes of the last day of that month.  And the Earth was around billions of years before even dinosaurs were here.  You honestly think we can take ice core samples and weather patterns from the past, what...60-100 years or so MAYBE...and determine beyond a shadow of a doubt what weather patterns should be?  Climate change is a natural thing for this planet, we are just along for the ride....try to stay warm when it gets cold and cool when it gets hot.  

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tion shamus001 Tue, 12/05/2017 - 19:41 Permalink

How does Zerohedge afford to run itself? Does this platform and the time of the authors have any value?It's almost like the more people here that want/expect free shit (entertainment/news) without being willing to tolerate some ads, the more egregious the ad environment here on ZH gets.  I'm sure you bitchez donate though... 

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GUS100CORRINA silverer Tue, 12/05/2017 - 19:00 Permalink

30,000 Evacuated As SoCal Wildfires Rage: "Prospects For Containment Are Not Good"Observation: I wonder if CA is paying the price for all this CHEMTRAIL CRAP that they initiated decades ago? Mankind is messing up the planet as a result of the false narrative of "GLOBAL WARMING".CA is now the official location of HELL on EARTH brought you by the stupidity of mankind.

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European American Tue, 12/05/2017 - 18:57 Permalink

"The Santa Ana winds are strong, extremely dry down-slope winds that originate inland and affect coastal Southern California and northern Baja California. They originate from cool, dry high-pressure air masses in the Great Basin." "Santa Ana winds are known for the hot dry weather that they bring in the fall (often the hottest of the year), but they can arise at other times of the year. They often bring the lowest relative humidities of the year to coastal Southern California. These low humidities, combined with the warm, compressionally-heated airmass, plus high wind speeds, create critical fire weather conditions. Known as "devil winds",[1][2] Santa Anas are infamous for fanning regional wildfires."