Trump Planning "Private Spy Network" To Counter "Deep State Enemies"

It will come as a surprise to precisely no one that Trump has a 'slightly frayed' relationship with the intelligence community.  As you'll undoubtedly recall, Trump engaged in a protracted, public dispute with Obama's former CIA Chief John Brennan over his assessment of 'Russian meddling' in the 2016 election...

...and his ongoing battle with the FBI seems to just now be getting warmed up...

So what do you do when you've grown convinced that your own intelligence agencies loathe your presence in the White House to such an extent that they would prioritize your demise over pretty much any other objective?  Well, according to reporting from The Intercept, you just might take it upon yourself to start a new, privately-funded spy network to compete with the official agencies that increasingly look to be politically compromised.

The Trump administration is considering a set of proposals developed by Blackwater founder Erik Prince and a retired CIA officer — with assistance from Oliver North, a key figure in the Iran-Contra scandal — to provide CIA Director Mike Pompeo and the White House with a global, private spy network that would circumvent official U.S. intelligence agencies, according to several current and former U.S. intelligence officials and others familiar with the proposals. The sources say the plans have been pitched to the White House as a means of countering “deep state” enemies in the intelligence community seeking to undermine Trump’s presidency.


The creation of such a program raises the possibility that the effort would be used to create an intelligence apparatus to justify the Trump administration’s political agenda.


“Pompeo can’t trust the CIA bureaucracy, so we need to create this thing that reports just directly to him,” said a former senior U.S. intelligence official with firsthand knowledge of the proposals, in describing White House discussions. “It is a direct-action arm, totally off the books,” this person said, meaning the intelligence collected would not be shared with the rest of the CIA or the larger intelligence community. “The whole point is this is supposed to report to the president and Pompeo directly.”


And while The Intercept notes that meetings have already been conducted to raise private funding for such an initiative, official sources from within the intelligence community have understandably denied all such rumors.

Some of the individuals involved with the proposals secretly met with major Trump donors asking them to help finance operations before any official contracts were signed.


The proposals would utilize an army of spies with no official cover in several countries deemed “denied areas” for current American intelligence personnel, including North Korea and Iran. The White House has also considered creating a new global rendition unit meant to capture terrorist suspects around the world, as well as a propaganda campaign in the Middle East and Europe to combat Islamic extremism and Iran.


"I can find no evidence that this ever came to the attention of anyone at the NSC or [White House] at all,” wrote Michael N. Anton, a spokesperson for the National Security Council, in an email. “The White House does not and would not support such a proposal.” But a current U.S. intelligence official appeared to contradict that assertion, stating that the various proposals were first pitched at the White House before being delivered to the CIA. The Intercept reached out to several senior officials that sources said had been briefed on the plans by Prince, including Vice President Mike Pence. His spokesperson wrote there was “no record of [Prince] ever having met with or briefed the VP.” Oliver North did not respond to a request for comment.


According to two former senior intelligence officials, Pompeo has embraced the plan and has lobbied the White House to approve the contract. Asked for comment, a CIA spokesperson said, “You have been provided wildly inaccurate information by people peddling an agenda.”

And here are the familiar names/companies behind the effort...

At the heart of the scheme being considered by the White House are Blackwater founder Erik Prince and his longtime associate, CIA veteran John R. Maguire, who currently works for the intelligence contractor Amyntor Group. Maguire also served on Trump’s transition team. Amyntor’s role was first reported by Buzzfeed News.


Michael Barry, who was recently named the National Security Council’s Senior Director for Intelligence Programs, worked closely with Erik Prince on a CIA assassination program during the Bush administration.


Prince and Maguire deny they are working together. Those assertions, however, are challenged by current and former U.S. officials and by Trump donors who say the two men were collaborating.


As with many arrangements in the world of CIA contracting and clandestine operations, details of who is in charge of various proposals are murky by design and change depending on which players are speaking. An Amyntor official said Prince was not “formally linked to any contract proposal by Amyntor.” In an email, Prince rejected the suggestion that he was involved with the proposals. When asked if he has knowledge of this project, Prince replied: “I was/am not part of any of those alleged efforts.”


Prince has strong ties to the Trump administration: His sister Betsy DeVos is secretary of education, he was a major donor to the Trump election campaign, and he advised the transition team on intelligence and defense appointments, as The Intercept has previously reported. Prince has also contributed to Vice President Mike Pence’s campaigns.

Of course, while a privately-funded spy network might help offset the problem of a politically compromised intelligence community, in the end these efforts will certainly prove to just substitute the political ambitions of corrupt public servants for those of corrupt private citizens who will undoubtedly expect a "return" on their invested capital.


Dead Canary Tue, 12/05/2017 - 14:23 Permalink

Nationalist parties are springing up everywhere. We need to capitalize on this momentum and organize into a Global Nationalist Organization or, G.N.O. Independence through unity. We are not sheep. We are individuals. Speaking and thinking as ONE! We could have a central authority. Maybe in some piss ant European country. We could pool our money into a central bank. Humm..... On second thought, maybe it's not such a good idea.

Dormouse tmosley Tue, 12/05/2017 - 14:51 Permalink

This is laughable. Rogers/Flynn/McMaster/Kelly/Mattis have these treasonous assholes cornered. They've been running the most sophisticated counter intelligence operation for over a year now and we are starting to see results. The media is being played like a bad violin to destroy any credibility that might still have. Relax, enjoy the show—watch Trump and his patriot generals SAVE AMERICA.

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MonetaryApostate macholatte Tue, 12/05/2017 - 15:38 Permalink

It won't matter, the empire can't see the enemy at their door steps selling drugs to & raping kids for laughs...They got dirt on the entire upper branch so they can't talk either, catch 22, & the devil is stirring every nation against the empire, & in fact Afghanistan was the final nail in the US Coffin...Good luck with the US Opium epidemic folks.THIS WON'T TAKE LONG NOW!

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BuddyEffed WTFRLY Tue, 12/05/2017 - 15:28 Permalink

Should any reports to the president be archived and reviewable by congress and the SC? Reports from spy agencies that may manipulate the president ought to be available for review.

Last thing you want when big money and big power at stake is for unscrupulous actors looking to take unfair advantage.

Let's not let American values degrade. Was the torture in places like Abu Ghraib done in any part by private interests? We need to be careful on this.

There's been recent noise out of the oligarch class that dictates "when it gets serious you have to lie".

American values are that when it gets serious you have to be honest, am I right?

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swmnguy BuddyEffed Tue, 12/05/2017 - 15:39 Permalink

This is all eerily reminiscent of what happened during the Roman Civil Wars, when the Republic ultimately collapsed.  The wealthiest and most powerful men in Rome intentionally destroyed the public institutions people trusted, and replaced them with their own private armies and institutions, "To Save The Republic."The plan to destroy the US has been in motion for quite some time now.  It's getting close enough to fruition that individuals are willing to name themselves and stand forward to be the new Julius Caesar.  Too bad not one of them has anywhere near the intelligence, abilities or accomplishments the real Julius Caesar had, but look what happened to him anyway.This wasn't a new strategy when Caesar saw the opportunity and took it in the 70s, 60s and 50s BC.  And while it's made certain members of the Elites unfathomably wealthy, it always leads to the eventual destruction of the host nation and the people who live and work there.It won't be any different when it happens here.

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Bring the Gold swmnguy Wed, 12/06/2017 - 00:49 Permalink

I actually like the Assassination of Julius Caesar: A people's history of Rome. Julius was in the tradition of the Populari or Populists. Nobody complained about his predecessor, nor the open Imperial Rule of Augustus Octavian. Curious then that Julius was a traitor to the Republic. It seems rather, that he was more a traitor to the Oligarchs of Julius's era the Senators. Once Augustus became Emperor people were fine and dandy with it, because he made them more wealthy. Julius on the other hand had been working with other Populari to pass the Lax Agraria and open the commons to VETERANS to own and farm. The ultra wealthy were enraged at this idea as it was land they had hoped to exploit for themselves. So they said no to the Veterans getting land and instead turned on Julius and the other Populari culminating in the fall of the Republic and the rise of the Empire.Given that McCain just voted to end Cancer treatment for Veterans while getting platinum Senatorial Medical paid for Cancer treatments I'd say you are spot on, except Julius may be misunderstood and a victim of the Victor writing history.

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Bring the Gold francis_the_wo… Wed, 12/06/2017 - 01:00 Permalink

Well, I mean it's both. That's how you do it, threats and "blood on your hands" corruption/bribery.Example:Bernie takes a field trip to the secret "Zapruder Film screeing room" of the White House not long before the DNC convention.Sanders: "Why am I going to some dark room in the basement that appears to be a theater?"Non-descript Intel guy: "You're here to watch a film you've seen before. Along with film you haven't seen of the same event. Then we are going to watch some live footage."Sanders: "...."**Movie screen lights up showing the Zapruder film with missing frames clearly showing being shot from in front. Movie then lights up with the kennedy assasination filmed from on top of the by-pass and other angles**Non-Descript Intel guy: "So, I'm curious, do you like beach houses Senator Sanders? More importantly does your grand son like Beach houses? We could ask him he's in Mrs. Fields 3rd grade class right? Well let's not assume, agent can you put up the live stream?" **Live stream Video shows Bernie's grand-son in his 3rd grade class**Bernie: **swallows audibly** "....You know Jane does like beach houses...and HRC should probably get my endorsement am I right?"Non-Descript Intel guy: "Glad we are on the same page. Enjoy the convention!"

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J S Bach Cognitive Dissonance Tue, 12/05/2017 - 15:35 Permalink

This is probably why Hitler felt the need to have his own party SS established once power was attained.  He needed an organization he could trust.  When an outside force breaks into an established megalithic and highly corrupt system such as we have today (and they had then), the rebel leader simply cannot rely on the embedded resources who serve the swamp state.  This is actually quite logical when you think about it.  I mean, the system is just not going to allow itself to be cleansed and deconstructed by any legal method... and will employ any means to justify the ends in maintaining its continued existence.

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J S Bach swmnguy Tue, 12/05/2017 - 15:46 Permalink

Yep.  Learn real history, son.  Politics is politics... no matter how you slice it.  The swamp is no different whether it is 2017 America, 1927 Soviet Politburo, 1948 Israeli Knesset, or 1920s Weimar Republic.The fact remains, if you want a clean sweep, you have to bring your own broom into the room with you.

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swmnguy J S Bach Tue, 12/05/2017 - 16:35 Permalink

Still not thinking the emergence of a group like the SS is a sign of anything good.  If the whole Nazi thing muddies the waters too much, consider the emergence of the Inquisition.  Highly principled men all, I'd stipulate.  All rising to meet the current emergency, thinking only of good.  But whenever groups develop and thrive out in public, whose members pride themselves on placing principle above humanity, very bad things always happen.  That's the problem with "clean sweeps."  And if one oligarch decides to have his own government, you can rest assured the others won't just meekly back down.

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J S Bach Branded Tue, 12/05/2017 - 16:56 Permalink

To swmn & Branded...My comment was only to point out the fact that changing our system will not be possible from within.  Hitler was a man for his time and place in history.  He cannot be resurrected.  However, his ideas ARE timeless.  They can be analyzed and, where applicable, put into effect to better our world situation.  Trump is no Hitler, but he is the best we have at this moment.  If he has ANY desire to fulfill his campaign promises, then he will have to bring in his own trustworthy people.  I am skeptical about this given that he has filled half of his cabinet with denizens of the diaspora.  His latest trial balloon about making Jerusalem the Israeli capitol does not bode well for world stability.  No.  The man is not THE man to "save" us... but, he is still infinitely better than the wicked witch of Arkansas.

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Branded J S Bach Tue, 12/05/2017 - 17:27 Permalink

Not in a position to argue your points, except to say that Trump may simply represent a swinging of the pendulum, and we are still on track with Globalism - albeit with the temporary respite he provides over Hillary.It would be nice to be wrong; I'm simply not in a position to know for sure.However, I agree; Hillary is straight from the pit of hell, should be held accountable by trial along with others - and if/when convicted, quite literally burned at the stake.

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Griffin tmosley Tue, 12/05/2017 - 15:18 Permalink

This Prince of darkness is a contractor working for the deep state Trump worries so much about, and the assignment is to dig Trump a grave.If the ideas Trump seems to be getting from his helpers lately are any indication of what is to come, Trump will probably not last the 3 years he has left on the clock.

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Nostradumbass tmosley Tue, 12/05/2017 - 15:41 Permalink

I didn't know anything about Blackwater or Prince except what my former liberal programming had me thinking at the time. Watching the interview I find Prince to be forthright and apparently honest but then, like so many others still believe, he has this to say about FDR and Stalin vs "fascists" as if this was ultimately a good outcome for the west and White People: who knows anymore?

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swmnguy Nostradumbass Tue, 12/05/2017 - 15:47 Permalink

Erik Prince is a captain of mercenaries, headquartered in Dubai.  If you want to believe his produced videos, go right ahead.  Nobody bad could perform well on camera, could they?If you want to turn over America to private armies and mercenaries on the payroll of the highest bidder, some of us are going to disagree with you.  I for one do not believe that representative democracy has failed in America, and I do not believe we need a Dictator.  For the past few decades, there has been a well-orchestrated effort to get me to believe that, to be sure.  But when I talk to my fellow Americans, I don't experience any of the deep, intractible polarization I'm told I need to fear. I do see factions among the Elites, lusting to do to America what they did to Russia in 1990 or so, to Greece more recently, to Libya, to most of the 3rd World.  Tear the society apart along existing fault lines and fracture points, arm the very worst elements of society, collapse all the structure of civilization so only raw power can get anything done; while the Elites walk off with everything of any value.I'm not in favor of that.  I don't flatter myself that I can fight off a platoon of professional killers.  I don't pretend that the Elites will reward me for my loyalty.Erik Prince isn't the problem.  If he weren't the Captain of Mercenaries, somebody else would be.  The problem is that he can show his face in public without having to be rescued from the mob by police.  That alone shows how far America has let itself be led down the path of liquidation and dismemberment, to the benefit of a faction of Elites.

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swmnguy Nostradumbass Tue, 12/05/2017 - 16:45 Permalink

I don't see the world in terms of binary options.  I've known my whole life the CIA and FBI and the like were utterly corrupt and irredeemable.  Realizing that, I can still think that having somebody like Erik Prince, with all his body of work, head up a private spy agency with what would have to be exemption to rule of law in order to operate, would be a bad thing for America.One of Sally Yate's colleagues was impressed by her taking a stand on principle?  Agree with her or not, isn't that what we lament the lack of in too many government officials?If we define honesty and corruption in terms of loyalty to one man, we're undoing a lot of things many of us still consider valuable, if flawed and difficult to maintain.  Consistency and tidiness are not hallmarks of freedom.

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swmnguy Nostradumbass Tue, 12/05/2017 - 16:52 Permalink

OK, thanks for the clarification.  Molyneaux, huh?  That's an interesting neighborhood to hang out in.The fact that a guy like Prince operates in the open is scary shit for those of us who believe in what used to be quaintly known as "Freedom."  Prince is a tool of Oligarchs, dictators, crimelords and the like.  He's very comfy with the Saudis, which is an appropriate environment for his type.  Functional free societies don't have any place for mercenaries doing the right and proper tasks of government.  You don't have to support the government to see that its collapse is a sign of very bad things to come, whatever your opinions of what would be better.ZH seems to be a place where a certain faction of the Elites tries out trial balloons to see what the reaction is, what certain groups of people will and won't tolerate or even support.  It's getting pretty frightening to see how normal everything is out on the street where people get things done and interact all day every day, and then to see hints of what the Elites are planning for us all.

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pippi68 tmosley Tue, 12/05/2017 - 16:09 Permalink

This was fascinating. So much of what we are told by the media are lies. Prince is very credible in this video and his story even better fits the observations. Not sure what to make of it all but this was definitely worth the listen despite the audio problems.

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