"It Was Like A War Zone" - Heavy Winds Push Wildfires Toward San Diego As Bel Air Burns

Images of charred palm trees and the burnt-out husks of multi-million-dollar homes flooded social media for a fifth day Friday as the SoCal wildfires that exploded into life at the beginning of the week showed no signs of slowing.

Instead, some of the largest fires have entered the heart of Los Angeles – America’s second largest city – and are menacing some of the most expensive homes in the country.

To date, six large wildfires have scorched 141,000 acres in the state, with the flames spreading as far south as San Diego, Cal Fire officials said. At least 5,700 firefighters from several agencies and at least nine states are working to contain the massive walls of flames. The fires have forced 190,000 people out of their homes in a hurry. Many took only their pets and a few choice mementos.

The Skirball fire that’s terrorizing Bel Air isn’t nearly as large as some of the other fires raging in Ventura and LA counties, but it has had an outsize impact in terms of cost. Two days ago, local media reported that the fire had torched a mansion owned by media mogul Rupert Murdoch. Though Murdoch later clarified that the property was (mostly) intact, other homes in the area are at risk of being reduced to cinders.


So far, the fire has damaged many homes in the hills of Bel Air, Los Angeles’ most expensive neighborhood according to Zillow. At least six of those, which Zillow estimates to be worth around $20 million, were completely destroyed on Wednesday.

According to the Wall Street Journal, about 1,700 homes were in mandatory evacuation zones from the Skirball Fire. The company estimates the homes’ values totaled $6.4 billion, where the median home value is just under $3 million.

Beyond Bel Air, there are 86,242 homes in Ventura and Los Angeles counties that are at "some level of risk" from the Thomas, Rye and Creek Wildfires, according to CoreLogic. The combined reconstruction cost value of these properties is $27.7 billion – nearly triple the $10 billion in damages caused by the NorCal fires.

In Ventura County alone, 14,300 homes valued at a total of $10.4 billion were in mandatory evacuation zones, according to Zillow.

Just like with the fires that devastated California’s wine country two months ago, the powerful Santa Ana winds have exacerbated the devastation. After a brief lull on Tuesday, the winds picked back up again Wednesday. And though they’re expected to taper off again – albeit briefly – late Friday, winds of up to 80 mph are expected to continue through Sunday, making it difficult for firefighters to tame the blazes.

“We are in the beginning of a protracted wind event,” Ken Pimlott, the director of the California department of forestry and fire protection, told the Los Angeles Times. “There will be no ability to fight fire in these kinds of winds."

All together, the four fires in Southern California – possibly the most destructive in the state’s history - have scorched more than 116,000 acres so far, and despite the round-the-clock work of thousands of firefighters since Tuesday, they are still burning ferociously with little to no containment. For example, the Thomas fire northwest of Ventura is barely 5% contained.

All around the region, people encountered nightmarish conditions as flames seemed to come from everywhere. Patricia Hampton, 48, said she and her boyfriend woke up at her house in Ventura on Tuesday night to the sound of helicopters. Outside, the ground was covered in ash, the air so smoky it was hard to breathe as they hopped on bicycles and tried to flee, according to the Washington Post.

“We didn’t know what had happened. We rode down into town trying to make sense of what we were seeing — police everywhere, firetrucks, helicopters,” she said at a temporary shelter at the Ventura County Fairgrounds. “It was like a war zone. You could hear transformers blowing up.”

Authorities are warning residents in nearby communities to prepare to evacuate, even if they aren’t directly impacted by the fire. Residents should be ready to evacuate even if they don't live in areas immediately affected by flames, Cal Fire Division Chief Nick Schuler said Thursday night. Families should have an escape plan ready to go just in case, he said.



"They need to prepare as if they will be impacted. Where are they gonna go? What are their escape routes? What is their communication to their families?" he said.

Adding to the devastation in the region, the Lilac Fire in San Diego County started Thursday and grew to 4,100 acres in a few hours, leading to new evacuation orders. Evacuation centers have been set up in affected areas.

The Lilac Fire has left three people with burn injuries and two firefighters hurt. One firefighter suffered smoke inhalation while the second one had a dislocated shoulder. The latter popped it back into place and continued working, Schuler said. According to CNN, school boards have shut down schools spanning at least 16 districts.

Gov. Jerry Brown issued an emergency proclamation for Santa Barbara and San Diego counties. The declarations free state resources such as the National Guard to support response efforts. He's also requested federal assistance to supplement state and local emergency response.

Per CNN, here’s a quick summary of the six largest fires.

  • Thomas Fire: The largest of the six blazes started Monday in Ventura County, and has scorched 115,000 acres. It's only 5% contained, and has destroyed at least 150 homes and threatening thousands more in Ventura, about 50 miles (80 km) north-west of Los Angeles.
  • Creek Fire: The second-largest fire is in neighboring Los Angeles County, and ignited a day later. It has burned 15,323 acres and is 20% contained.
  • Rye Fire: It broke out Tuesday in Los Angeles County and has burned 7,000 acres. Firefighters are making progress, with 25% of the blaze contained.
  • Lilac Fire: This fast-moving fire erupted Thursday in San Diego County, and has consumed 4,100 acres in just a few hours. It's unclear what percentage of it is contained.
  • Skirball Fire: It started Wednesday as a brush fire in Los Angeles County, and is now 30% contained.
  • Liberty Fire: The blaze in Riverside County has burned 300 acres since it ignited Thursday. It's 5% contained.

While no deaths have been reported so far as a direct result of the flames, three residents have been burned while trying to flee. And one woman was found dead after a car crash in an area under an evacuation order, the authorities said on Thursday, according to the GuardianWith 2017 on track to be the most destructive year for wildfires in California history, experts are warning that this could be the new status quo, given dry conditions across the state.

The Santa Ana winds are an entirely natural phenomenon of course, and they usually peak during the month of December. What is unusual is that wildfires peak during the autumn period. But because of the ongoing drought across California and the very dry weather during October and November, the conditions have been ripe for the wildfire outbreak we are now witnessing.

The current weather pattern is consistent with what climatologists refer to as the 'Ridiculously Resilient Ridge' which has become more prevalent in recent years. This results in cold weather across eastern parts of US, and unseasonably warm weather in western areas that we are seeing this month.

As this weather pattern intensifies, expect deadly blazes to become a perennial concern, Al Jazeera reported.


CuttingEdge hedgeless_horseman Fri, 12/08/2017 - 10:54 Permalink

It's really quite simple to understand when you think laterally... Remember Jennifer Lawrence blaming Trump for making "Mother Nature" angry in hurricane season? Ostensibly to promote her film, of course - lame cow that she is.Well, ain't blowback a bitch on the elites of LA with mother nature tearing your real estate a new arsehole?She's probably pissed at Harvey Wankstain, eh Jenny?

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Slack Jack Joe Davola Fri, 12/08/2017 - 11:32 Permalink

Record-Setting Hurricanes; Record temperatures; Record-Setting Wildfires; ya think it might be global warming?


So, why is the global rise in temperatures so worrisome?

For one thing, as temperatures rise good farmland will become desert (e.g., dust-bowl conditions will probably return to the American Midwest).

Another major problem is sea-level rise.

Have a look at http://pubs.usgs.gov/fs/fs2-00/

The U.S. Geological Survey people claim that;

The Greenland ice sheet melting will raise sea-level 6.55 meters (21.5 feet),
the West Antarctica ice sheet melting will raise sea-level 8.06 meters (26.4 feet),
the East Antarctica ice sheet melting will raise sea-level 64.8 meters (212.6 feet),
and all other ice melting will raise sea-level 0.91 meters (3 feet).

For a grand total of about 80 meters (263 feet).

So, what does an 80 meter (263 feet) rise in sea-level mean. Have a look at the following map of the world after an 80 meter rise. It means that over one billion people will have to be resettled to higher ground and that much of the most productive agricultural land will be under water. Fortunately, at current rates, the Greenland ice sheet will take over a thousand years to melt and the Antarctica ice sheet, much longer. However, the greater the temperature rise the faster the ice sheets will melt, bringing the problem much closer. Remember, the huge ice sheet that recently covered much of North America, almost completely melted in only 15,000 years (today, only the Greenland ice sheet, and some other small patches of it, remain). Since then (15,000 years ago), sea-levels have risen about 125 meters (410 feet), only 80 meters to go.

The ice sheets have been continuously melting for thousands of years. What is left of them today, is still melting, and will continue to melt. Human caused global warning will cause this remnant to melt significantly faster. This is a big, big, problem.

For HUGE detailed maps of the "World after the Melt" go to:


Global temperatures are increasing. And by quite a lot each year.

2016 is the hottest year on record for global temperatures.

This is 0.0380 degrees centigrade hotter than the previous record year which was 2015.

0.0380 is a large increase in just one year.

2015 was the hottest year (at that time) for global temperatures.

This was 0.1601 degrees hotter than the previous record year which was 2014.

0.1601 is an absolutely huge increase in just one year (at this rate temperatures would increase by 16 degrees in a century).

2014 was the hottest year (at that time) for global temperatures.

This was 0.0402 degrees hotter than the previous record year which was 2010.


The conspiracy to hide global warming data.

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) is given tax money to make global temperature records available to the public. However, certain people at NOAA continually sabotage this aspect of NOAA's mandate. For example, these people have (deliberately) sabotaged the web-page that delivers the temperature records.

Look for yourself:

Go to the page: https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/monitoring-references/faq/anomalies.php scroll down to the The Global Anomalies and Index Data section and click the download button and see what happens. Well, you get the message:

"Not Found. The requested URL /monitoring-references/faq/anomalies-download was not found on this server."

I guess that the 2017 data must be truly horrible if they have to hide it away.


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zuuma Branded Fri, 12/08/2017 - 13:44 Permalink

Ahhhh.... Kalifornia Dreamin'...Build homes in crispy, dry desert - CheckChronic water shortages  - CheckRegular, dry, high wind scenarios - CheckHUGE, non-working population  - CheckNot enough $$$, despite massive taxes - CheckMoonbeam is governor -- CheckEco-Nazi, Enviro Regime unable to stop nature - CheckMight this be Karmic urban renewal?Guess those white guys who built the aqueduct system in the early 20th century knew some things. Nevermid that.  Fortunately, a population was imported doubling the number of people that old system could support. Also good, no spending to maintain or expand the system because, environment. Smart.Idea:  a bucket brigade of illegals from the ocean to the fire.

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Conscious Reviver hound dog vigilante Fri, 12/08/2017 - 22:07 Permalink

Hello everybody. Look up in the sky. Do you see Agenda 21 chemtrails. If so, your climate is f'd up. If not, you are lucky ... for now. www.geoengineeringwatch.org/category/drought-2/Dane is a hard working good guy, but a little to fixated on the precanned AGW explanation. One effect of the Ridiculously Resilient Ridge, (RRR) diverting the rain bearing, onshore, Jet Stream north and away from California is of course drought in California.Another effect is that the diverted Jet Stream carries warmer air north into the Artic. This human induced warming of the Artic via the man made offshore ridge makes resource harvesting in the previously frozen Artic more feasible. As resource depletion becomes the reality in the more temperate climes, is Artic warming for resource extraction one of the intended goals of RRR?? I'm happy I got to live, work and play in California before the destruction was kicked into high gear. I'm also immensely thankful I got out. 

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Endgame Napoleon Slack Jack Fri, 12/08/2017 - 17:17 Permalink

What made the ice sheet start melting 15,000 years ago?

Was it early humans, playing with sticks to create fires?

Did you know that the Japanese, with their tiny, cramped land mass, are now farming in high rises, using 100% robot labor?

These fires in CA are horrific. It is good that no one was killed in Bel Air, but you can bet that some beautiful art and fine craftsmanship was destroyed.

Is there a natural explanation for this? They keep citing wind. Wind spreads fires, but wind does not start fires.

Are they investigating what starts these fires that are happening in successive waves.

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ConfederateH Joe Davola Fri, 12/08/2017 - 11:49 Permalink

There are actually about 10 fires each with their own twitter hash tag.  #Thomasfire, #skirbalfire, #creekfire, etc.Each of those feeds are loaded with virtue signalling SJW's preening on about things like "venturastrong".  Its  disgusting, but they are really eating it up.  Throw in cars driving to work through valleys of fire, race horses galloping by in a panic, and idiots entering 20ft flames to save rabbits (Reminds of that idiot running into the bondfire at burning man).  This is mind control nirvana.  

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Nobody For President Joe Davola Fri, 12/08/2017 - 12:33 Permalink

Hey Joe, wildfland fires (and other incidents - MVAs, structure fires) are usually named within the first five minutes by the first" official" responding agency. Wildland fires are usually named after the predominent access road or geological feaeture, sometimes after a predominant landowner who owns the property the fire starts on - usually a very localized name - there are no conventions per se, at least in California, other than that name has not been used this fire year in the local jurisdiction, or used on a major fire in the state during that fire year. Finley Creek Fire, Cedar Flat Fire, Telegraph Ridge Fire, Phelps Ranch Fire - like that (Been on all those). This gives other local fire crews a heads up on which direction to turn when they leave the station and where to start looking for the smoke on their way in.

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Pool Shark lil dirtball Fri, 12/08/2017 - 11:33 Permalink

Speaking of omissions...You omitted the history of Southern Calfornia weather.I grew up in SoCal in the 60's and 70's and have great recollections of Santa Ana winds blowing during the Christmas season. We REGULARLY had to cleanup and repair christmas decorations after strong wind storms. We would come out in the morning and find roof shingles and broken branches on the lawn, and occasionally wooden fences blown down.One year (1972 I think), the winds were so strong they sheared the roof off a house down the street and threw it into the citrus orchard behind.Don't try to tell me this is something new (like the recent drought; I've lived through at least 4 major droughts in SoCal).Those of us who don't have short attention spans know this is typical December weather in SoCal.

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ConfederateH Pool Shark Fri, 12/08/2017 - 11:56 Permalink

And all those houses built since then are built to much, much higher fire standards.  Just try putting in a wood shingle roof now.And all these house built since then, are surrounded by groomed and irrigated landscaping whereas before it was chapparal/sage brush (especially on the hills).Yet in the past when fire departments budgets were much smaller, the technology was ancient and there were few helicopter dumpers and no giant water bombers, they never had anything like this.So it happens now, after Trump exited the Paris Accords.  And the warmists were primed and waiting.  Along with the Rothschilds.

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Pool Shark ConfederateH Fri, 12/08/2017 - 12:05 Permalink

"...they never had anything like this."Uh,.. WRONG!!!We were evacuated TWICE from fires in the San Gabriel Mountains in the 1970's; fires that burned for WEEKS in the foothills from Cajon Pass to Wrightwood on the north, and Upland through Pasadena on the south.Once again, those of us who don't have short attention spans remember the fires of SoCal's past; and it was JUST AS BAD THEN as it is today.You "Global Warming" whackjobs all want us to believe it's different this time, but it isn't...

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Pool Shark ConfederateH Fri, 12/08/2017 - 12:43 Permalink

Okay, well, while you were away in Canada, 32 years ago there was a MUCH BIGGER FIRE in Ojai that burned 120,000 acres, and BURNED FOR 15 DAYS...http://articles.latimes.com/1995-07-01/local/me-19148_1_wheeler-fireOh, and while we're at it, do you recall the BIG BelAire fire of 1961? Yeah, it ONLY BURNED 500 HOMES, but I guess your short attention span doesn't include that one...http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-1961-bel-air-fire-20171206-story.htmlPS: "Global Warming" and "Chemtrails" played no part in either of these fires...

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ConfederateH Pool Shark Sat, 12/09/2017 - 09:09 Permalink

Those were SINGLE fires.  We have dozens in No Cal, then dozens in So Cal.Wiki claims 17 separate fires in No Cal in October with in 24 hours, and it could applied directly to So Cal:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_2017_Northern_California_wildfires"By the evening of October 8, the Diablo winds were reported gusting up to 70 miles per hour (110 km/h) within the affected areas as over a dozen wildfires began to break out." https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/California-Fire-Experts-Probe-Cau…"California Fire Experts Probe Why 17 Fires Erupted in Just 24 Hours""One expert said falling power lines and arson are being considered as causes"Then we have Find me one case where 10-12 fires spontaneously ignited within 48 hours for either of them any time in the past.  Then consider that it happened twice.  In less than 2 months.Wiki claims 15 separate fires in So Cal in December, and it could be verbim cut and paste from So Cal:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/December_2017_Southern_California_wildfir…"A series of 15 wildfires ignited in Southern California in early December 2017. Five of the fires became major fires that led to widespread evacuations and property losses. The fires were exacerbated by unusually powerful and long-lasting Santa Ana winds,[3] "EDIT:  My wife's grandfather bought a house in Wheeler in 1910.  Her parents live there now and it still stands today.  In those Ojai and Wheeler files they were not even evacuated.   This time it was a complete panic, but their house survived.  There was no time at all.Also the trailer park at the entrance to Wheeler was completely destroyed.  It had been there since the war anyway and housed employees of Limonara.  It had made it through all those other fires.One can also see a very clear fire line all along 126. It is interesting that even though it jumped I5 and I101, it never managed to jump foothill."Find me one case where 10-12 fires spontaneously ignited within 48 hours for either of them any time in the past."This page has gone stale now and Pool Shark did not provide an example of multiple fires starting from Newhall, and Ventura down to Rancho Murieta.  There were many that were only reported as the situation developed but dissapeared later.And it happened up north 2 months earlier in precisely the same fashion.No pool-shark, you are wrong, there has never been anything like this in recorded So Cal history.Edit: This map sums it up best.  I count at least 16 separate fires.  https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQl80vRUMAEqs4o.jpgThis article on the Cofee Park fire shows how it had been exempted from Cal fire codes and that is why it burned down completely.  Newer fire codes have made houses much more fire resistant.  Period.http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-coffey-park-explainer-20171… note that there still as been any explanation or cause for all the No Cal fires other than "global warming". We 

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ConfederateH ConfederateH Fri, 12/08/2017 - 12:28 Permalink

Here is some info on the Laguna fire:http://wildfiretoday.com/2009/09/26/laguna-fire-september-26-1970/Thats all back country and it was started by a downed power line from the Santa Ana windsIf we wanted to look at massive burns that one is peanuts.Yet they still haven't provided the source for a dozen of completely different fires within 2 days in Norther California, then an exact repeat in Southern California.  No arsonist, no downed lines, no smokers, even no shooters (wait for it).Its just like Las Vegas.  No one is guilty of anything, it just another MKUltra holocaust.  Time to move along, stupid goyim.

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Pool Shark ConfederateH Fri, 12/08/2017 - 13:10 Permalink

"If we wanted to look at massive burns that one is peanuts."Uh, no.Cal Fire ranks the Laguna Fire as the 9th Largest California Wildfire of All Time.It destroyed 382 Structures (the 3rd greatest structure loss in California History; more than all the currently burning fires COMBINED), and resulted in the 2nd Highest Loss of Life in California Wildfire History.www.fire.ca.gov/communications/downloads/fact_sheets/Top20_Acres.pdf 

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ConfederateH Pool Shark Fri, 12/08/2017 - 13:34 Permalink

A brush fire is a brush fire.  It is irrelevant where it happened.  Compare that to recent BC fires or any major BC fire.  Or even Yellowstone.  But that is irrelevant anyway, you refuse to even try to respond to the points I am making.The picture in my avatar was taken in what is now Santa Clarita, about 1934, probably where a home depot or sams club exists right now.

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SixIsNinE Pool Shark Fri, 12/08/2017 - 13:35 Permalink

i drove frequently  from the area of the NorCal fires down to LA & vicinity and San Diego during the 1st decade of this centur and MOST times the areas looked like tinderbox's just waiting for ignition. spring 2005  - i got to visit Joshua Tree and Grand Canyon, which park rangers told me, both had received "100 year" rains that year and so we were blessed with the show of wildflowers in and grasses & plantlife - truly amazing, and fortunately I had my first digital camera at the time which captured it perfectly.  very sorry for the losses of the people - but let's hope this is smoking out the pedophiles which have infested the area like cockroaches 

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I Write Code Pool Shark Fri, 12/08/2017 - 15:59 Permalink

The Bel Air fire in 1961 was actually fought with borate bombers, and was the one that caused the change in laws, no more wood shake roofs.  They should probably tighten up the standards more for existing homes, I think they are already much tougher for new construction.When you get 50mph winds any fire quickly blows out of control.  Probably half the fires are caused by homeless, half the rest by pyros includine firemen, a couple by nature, a couple by power lines, a couple by accidents.  Maybe a jihadi or two in there, who knows.  The 1961 fire was "accident".This Skirball fire was hot for a just a couple of hours, but it was possible the embers might still spread for another twenty-four.  So apparently on that basis the fire department rated it "5% contained" even twelve hours after the last flame was seen.  The fire fighters must be paid beaucoup bucks for their 48 hour stints on these things.Just a smattering of factoids. And yes, global warming has nothing to do with it.  The drought in 1961 was as bad as anything recent.  If CO2 meant anything, by now there would be no question, LA would be a field of ashes.

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GUS100CORRINA Pool Shark Fri, 12/08/2017 - 12:02 Permalink

"It Was Like A War Zone" - Heavy Winds Push Wildfires Toward San Diego As Bel Air BurnsMy response: I watched a video recently that showed wind speeds in excess of 70 MPH at ground level. With the EPA overreach that resulted in poor forestry MANAGEMENT practices along with dry conditions and high wind speeds, it would appear that all of the ingredients for a major disaster are in place.Something very evil is happening in CA. CA is truly turning out to be HELL on EARTH.

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