America's Decline And The Neglect Of Luther's Principles Of Liberty

Authored by S.T.Karnick via, 

Freedom requires a sense of personal responsibility if it is to survive.

With the nation’s news dominated by reports of political corruption (most recently, the Clintons’ apparent use of “pay to play” schemes during Hillary Clinton’s tenure as U.S. secretary of state), sexual harassment scandals pandemic among the nation’s elites, extreme vulgarization of political speech and the common culture, riots against freedom of speech on the nation’s college campuses, paralyzing partisanship in Congress, death threats and open assassination attempts against government leaders and police officers, and the rest of the dismaying parade of moral shortcomings on display among the nation’s leaders in all walks of life, it appears that we are in the midst of a war not just between political and cultural factions, but over the very definition of our civilization.



TeamDepends rp2016 Mon, 12/11/2017 - 23:51 Permalink

18.Gain control of all student newspapers.19.Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations that are under Communist attack. [Note:The successof these goals, from a communist perspective, is obvious. Is there any doubt this is so?]20.Infiltrate the press. Get control of book review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.21.Gain control of key positions inradio, TV & motion pictures.22.Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all form of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to"eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings," substituting shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms.

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TeamDepends Boris Alatovkrap Tue, 12/12/2017 - 00:06 Permalink

24.Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.25.Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radioand TV. [Note: This is the Gramscian agenda of the "long march through the institutions" spelled out explicitly: gradual takeoverof the "means of communication" and then using those vehicles to debauch the culture and weaken the will of the individual toresist.]26.Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural and healthy." [Note: Today those few who still have thecourage to advocate public morality are denounced and viciously attacked. Most Americans are entirely unwitting regarding themotives behind this agenda.]

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A Sentinel TeamDepends Tue, 12/12/2017 - 02:25 Permalink

The article’s biggest fallacy regards Luther being some kind of freedom-leader. That’s bogus on its face (sorry to any that haven’t heard anything but positives about the guy.)

He WAS a revolutionary. That’s certain. But his offer was not freedom but rather (if you analyze the comparison carefully) exactly what the serpent offered eve:

“if you decide that something is right, you’re right. If you decide that something is wrong, you’re right and it’s wrong.”

Recognize that? That’s (moral) relativism. That’s the first step down the road towards “if I feel like a woman then I am.” And it does eventually get you to vivisecting babies— anything goes.

Don’t believe me? Think Luther got Christianity right? How come in his early translation of scripture he (absolutely undeniably) ADDED the word “alone” to “saved by faith ___” in Romans? How come he wanted to toss Timothy and called it a gospel of straw? How come he did discard 7 whole other books of the cannon on an arbitrary linguistic point and they happened to disagree with one of his inventions of faith?

Sorry. He was a dictator, not a freedom giver. He gave modernity a bunch of transvestites, high divorce rate, abortion — because he threw off the shackles of authority.

A big influence? Yes. A hero? That’s a joke.

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JonNadler A Sentinel Tue, 12/12/2017 - 05:36 Permalink

oh please take your catholic mumbo jumbo somewhere else. Nobody buys that stuff here. Luther freed the gospel from the clutches of the vultures of the Vatican who encrusted upon it layers of unbiblical doctrines that kept people living in superstition and ignorance.  You call Luther a dictator? So what the heck was the Roman Catholic church? The Middle Ages church was a terrorist organization. Thankfullu Luther escaped the clutches of the Romanists tyrants (Unlike Huss who was burned at the stake) and freed the gospel/ Joke? Please look at yourself

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JonNadler A Sentinel Tue, 12/12/2017 - 06:05 Permalink

how come you think you are the only true church when the New Testament nowhere shows that? You Catholicas made up doctrines like indulgences and purgatory to fleece the masses and now you camoe  here claiming to have a moral superiority to real Christians? Which verse did add "alone" to in Romans?The idea that Luther encouraged an atittude of "anything goes" is a roman catholic farce, one among many. He claimed Sola Scriptura which is the only authority as opposed to Sola Eklesia, the sole rule of the church. This is how he freed Christianity from the dictatorship of the roman vultures 2 Timothy 3:16English Standard Version (ESV)16  All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, 17 that  the man of God[b] may be complete, equipped for every good work.

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TruthHunter A Sentinel Tue, 12/12/2017 - 08:33 Permalink

Criticising Luther puts you under suspicion of being part of the problem.(Jesuit troll?)Luther put forth the principle of "solo scriptura", the idea that a document should be the final arbiter of faith and morals. This alone completely subverts(Papal) tyrannical structures.The implication of attacking by " faith alone" is a return to the Catholic position of salvation by faith AND works. This brings with it the moral corruption that Luther opposed.The religious revolution begun by Luther is at the foundation of America's greatness.   

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Liberty2012 A Sentinel Tue, 12/12/2017 - 12:28 Permalink

Not quite. Of course Luther was not perfect. No one is. However, he restored man’s relationship to truth, which is a good thing regardless of how some others might be mistaken or mis-use it.

The alternatives was to follow along the path of hierarchy worship. Hierarchy has its place; it’s certainly useful; but it should not be elevated above one’s mind.

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Bemused Observer A Sentinel Tue, 12/12/2017 - 13:45 Permalink

Funny how most see the Genesis story as a simple good vs. evil tale. I think they miss some of the more valuable lessons by doing that. And it leads to all sorts of mental gymnastics over questions like why did God put the Tree in the CENTER OF THE GARDEN if it was totally verboten? If everything in that garden was put there by God, why is the Serpent able to move so freely about, and hold such subversive conversations with Eve?And what was meant when God said (to His staff up there) that Adam and eve had "become like Us, knowing good from evil"? Wouldn't that be a GOOD thing? So why was God so upset? On the surface, the traditional Christian interpretations make it seem as though God's original plan was to populate the earth with mindless drones who would worship God because they knew nothing else, and that He was pissed off that Adam and Eve screwed up His plans, so He booted them out of Paradise. The whole story of human history is just us trying to get God to 'forgive' us so we can all go back to the way it was.I think this is a very limited understanding of what that story is trying to tell us, one that makes God out to be some vain, petty tyrant who had best be obeyed, or ELSE! Nearly all of the problems Man faced in his history were due to his OWN actions, and not a result of divine punishment, and early on God explicitly warns against the folly of following human 'leaders' who would only lead us to destruction. There are two ways to love in God's world. One is as an animal, who has no 'knowledge of good and evil". An animal lives by instinct, not reason, so it isn't necessary to be able to discern right from wrong...follow the instinct and you'll be good to go. And Man could have had that kind of life, it would have been the easy path, except that Man had the ability to reason, and so he didn't just want to know WHAT to do, he wanted to know WHY he should do it. This isn't 'original sin', and in fact was an integral part of the plan. It is a metaphor for exiting childhood, with its carefree life of simple directives, and moving into adulthood, with its onerous responsibilities. When you are a kid, Christmas presents from Santa are pure joy...but when you are grown up you understand what they cost, and the work necessary to get them. They DON'T just magically 'appear'. And 2 weeks after Christmas, they're broken.Being a 'grown up' has its benefits, but they come at a cost we never truly appreciate when we are children. We can't wait to grow up, until we get there and realize how good we HAD it. It is a 'paradise' we can never return to.This was Man's fate as a species when he was made "in the image of God"...his species had been chosen to 'grow up', to leave childhood behind. There would be benefits, but there would also be great cost, the 'price' of adulthood. The adult learns that food doesn't just show comes as the result of hard work, the sweat of one's brow. Eve's 'sorrow in childbirth' would soon come as she and Adam learned that THEIR own children would be just as quick to question and defy THEM as they were to question and defy God...a version of the frustrated parent's curse to their offspring, "May you one day have children just like YOU..." Ask yourself, is it really a bad thing to leave childhood behind and grow up? In some ways it is, and kinda sad, but it is also a positive thing. It means you are moving forward, towards bigger and better things. There will be pain and suffering along the way, but I know of no society that encourages its children to remain children for life...having an adult child still at home is usually seen as a 'failure to launch'. In fact, we celebrate the transition towards adulthood, and encourage it. So why would a divine Creator not feel the same about His 'offspring', and want us to get our shit together and move on to the next phase of life so He can convert our old room into a home office already?  Being God, He has already seen the future where He and His never-married adult child grow old together in a double-wide filled with cats, and He said, "Fuck THAT! Get your lazy ass off that couch and go get a JOB!"

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land_of_the_few TeamDepends Tue, 12/12/2017 - 04:19 Permalink

Willard Cleon Skousen (/?ska?z?n/; January 20, 1913 – January 9, 2006) was an American conservative author and faith-based political theorist. A notable anti-communist and supporter of the John Birch Society, Skousen's works involved a wide range of subjects including the Six-Day War, Mormon eschatology, New World Order conspiracies, and parenting. His most popular works are The 5,000 Year Leap and The Naked Communist.Lee said that although Skousen was an anti-communist, he "ran the police department in exactly the same manner as the Communists in Russia operate their government." Time magazine reported in 1960 that Skousen's "real offense seemed to be that he had failed to show enough enthusiasm for Lee's determination to slash the police-department budget." Lee told a friend that Skousen was "one of the greatest spenders of public funds of anyone who ever served in any capacity in Salt Lake City government", and a "master of half truths".Skousen opposed all federal regulatory agencies and argued against the creation of the Occupational Safety and Health Administration and the Environmental Protection Agency. He also wanted to repeal the minimum wage, eliminate unions, nullify anti-discrimination laws, sell off public lands and national parks, end the direct election of senators, eliminate the income tax and the estate tax, remove the walls separating church and state, and end the Federal Reserve System.Skousen "once called Jamestown's original settlers communists, wrote end-of-days prophecy and suggested Russians stole Sputnik from the United States." In 1987, Skousen was criticized for suggestion in one of his books that "American slave children were freer than white non-slaves." Beginning with his first book, Skousen viewed the U.S. Constitution as a divinely inspired document that was under siege.

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Creative_Destruct land_of_the_few Tue, 12/12/2017 - 04:33 Permalink

Make people dependent and teach them to think of themselves as "victims" of some identity group and you totally remove personal responsibility and initiative from the equation, and make people look to the government for everything.As Victor Frankle noted, along with Luther and others , Freedom REQUIRES personal responsibility, involving personal restraint, and doing for you and yours and the greater good on your own initiative. Otherwise, the government can and will step in. Freedom GONE."The Staute of Liberty on the East Coast should be complemented by a Statue of Responsibility on the West Coast." - Victor FrankleNot gonna happen in Ca, Oregon, or Wa.  

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land_of_the_few Creative_Destruct Tue, 12/12/2017 - 04:46 Permalink

True, but you don't have to go Mormon :DActually I kinda liked most that I met. Clearly a little nuts, but a good work ethic.Best conversation was if you steer them off their ahem, mission.Me: "so, you and your brother go hunting in the forest with motorcycles, that is really cool and sounds fun. What happens if you actually catch something big?"Random Mormon who now thinks I am borderline Satanist but probably harmless: "well" ... (thinks) "we would go and get the truck...."

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cpnscarlet TeamDepends Tue, 12/12/2017 - 08:08 Permalink

Just don't take that too far. Under every communist regime, porn was illegal, as well as homosexuality. A person's sexual expression was well-controlled by the state as much as it was by the 16th century Catholic church. Humans beings have an inate desire for erotica. I'm no fan of the LGBTQLMNOP... agenda, but I certainly do not want to see a return to a government culture committee reviewing everything so they can maintain "moral standards". There are some definite moral absolutes, but let's not have the gov't writing the sex manuals.

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HRH of Aquitaine 2.0 besnook Tue, 12/12/2017 - 00:35 Permalink

I had an amazing Jesuit priest that was the professor for the Bhuddist philosophy class I took. The meditation part was fine. I don't have any issues with that aspect of this particular belief system.

But it was soul crushing to have to admit, every day, that "life is suffering."

Oh sure, let me wake up each day and admit life is hell as the way to start the day. OH HELL NO.

Oh sure, wake up each, day and have to admit to yourself that "life sucks" get over it. Yeah, okay, not my cuppa tea but if you want to drink that poison, go for it.

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HRH of Aquitaine 2.0 besnook Tue, 12/12/2017 - 01:15 Permalink

I like the viewpoint of the Taoists. Be practical be flexible, go with the flow, don't have a fixed point of view and be able to adjust based on changing circumstances.

I am a pessimist, by nature, so anything that encourages me to go deeper into that rabbit hole probably isn't healthy (for me).

We each get to choose the drink of our choice. I like Earl Grey, hot. Gunpowder tea is very nice, too. We each get to choose our path. Choose carefully.

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techpriest besnook Tue, 12/12/2017 - 02:38 Permalink

What about all of the Buddha temples, and my stepmother's abbot who took all the donations and got himself a *very* nice car?

I'm familiar with the concepts, having some devout Buddhists in the family, but after talking with them quite a bit about the different leadership structures, internal conflicts, etc., I am not convinced that Buddhism, or at least Buddhists, somehow exempted themselves with the same issues of human nature that the Bible warns about, and predicted to be a part of any religious structure.

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land_of_the_few besnook Tue, 12/12/2017 - 03:47 Permalink

This is quite true, in fact you will find Buddhism (in the West at least) is in fact largely the religion of the CIA - just as Western modern Art from the 50s, 60s and 70s was from their funding, too - strange how rapidly certain religions and art forms popped up in the Cold War just in time to compete with Eastern alternative ideas - what a coincidence :PLet me take your conscience and crushed soul and guilt from looking at, watching and listening to these "art" forms and secretly not liking them, but feeling unwilling to speak out - you are forgiven, it actually was unpopular, amateurish trash. I can't give you back those hours lost though sorry, no receipt no returns :D You can now start to heal the slight feeling of disgust and unfocussed suspicion that most have felt for a large part of their lives when entering an art gallery... "where the f"ck is the good stuff, has it been banned?" ;)Perhaps there is some kind of movement for putting good stuff back into art galleries after a 60-year hiatus? That looks like it was done by grown-ups who actually took some pride in their craft? Sadly the gimpy half-finished look seems to persist even with handicrafts at markets, the old craftsmen would have thought we had all suddenly become a society of unskilled primitivist retards ;)

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Boxed Merlot besnook Tue, 12/12/2017 - 00:21 Permalink

... are selfless...

Yeah, right. So, in order to be fully actualized into my selfless being, I must become fully selfish in my desire to achieve it, or else the result will elude me.

Personally, I think Luther was closer to the mark in his rejection of the church, i.e. spiritual leadership, controlling both swords.

It's just my understanding of Christianity. Like any armed force, it's most effective when comprised of volunteers.

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besnook Boxed Merlot Tue, 12/12/2017 - 00:28 Permalink

selfless always confuses westerners. selfless means that your actions are a result of the actions of other people and the catalyst for the action of others. the western equal would be the little ditty called the golden rule, which luther enunciated in long form.i prefer the buddhist philosophy over luther's ideas because the christian churches with only a coupla exceptions are all about control imposed upon you whereas buddhism is all about self control.

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