Doug Casey On What Happens After The Next 9/11

Authored by Doug Casey via,

Is a police state in the US possible? Absolutely.

That’s because people are essentially the same the world over, regardless of their culture, religion, race, or what-have-you. A certain percentage of them are sociopaths.

There is a standard distribution of sociopaths across time and space. It’s a function of Pareto’s Law, better known as the 80-20 rule. 20% of the people do 80% of the work. Another 20% are responsible for 80% of the crime. 20% of the population always winds up with 80% of the wealth. And so forth, through all areas of human endeavor. This observation can be represented by a bell-shaped curve—a “standard distribution”—with a small minority at each extreme, but the large majority in the middle. The people who will take us to a police state are sociopaths—criminal personalities who don’t respect the liberty or property of others. And sociopaths gravitate towards government, and eventually come to control it.

My view is that 80% of human beings are basically decent, get along, go along types. 20% are what you might call potential trouble sources, that can go either way. But then you take 20% of that 20% and you’re dealing with the sociopaths.

When social conditions reach a certain stage these really bad guys come out from under their rocks and take advantage of the situation. We’re seeing that right now in the US, across the political spectrum. Just as we’ve seen in the past in hundreds of places throughout history.

A major tipping point occurred sixteen years ago, on September 11, 2001, with the attacks in New York and Washington. They were disastrous. But not nearly as disastrous as the government’s reaction to them.

Among them the creation of the Department of Homeland Security. Anybody that speaks German knows that a reasonable translation of Homeland Security is Geheime Staatspolizei, which is usually abbreviated to Gestapo. Anybody that goes through airline security these days should ask themselves, “Where the hell did they find these people? Didn’t they have jobs before they went to work for this moronic agency?” The answer is that there are people out there who like wearing costumes, are willing to boss, herd, interrogate, and go through the dirty laundry of their fellow citizens. They take their jobs seriously and you better not even look at them sideways. There’s no reason to believe it’s going to get better as they groove into their jobs, and their employer cements itself into place. More likely the trend will accelerate.

Is America currently a police state? Well, let’s see. You can still get in your car and go anywhere, although you might be stopped by the police and you might be detained if your papers aren’t in order. Or the officer thinks you’re not properly respectful. Or you have “too much” cash.

Was there any particular day that Germany became a police state in the 1930s? I’m not sure you can put your finger on any one particular day, even after Hitler was legally and democratically elected. It was a progression, with new laws, new regulations, new taxes every day. While more fear and hysteria were worked up among the populace. Kristallnacht didn’t occur the day after the National Socialists took power.

It’s a case of the frog being put in a kettle of water where the temperature is gradually raised to a boil. That’s what’s occurring in the US. After 9/11, in addition to Homeland Security, we got the Patriot Act, with, among other things, its suspension of habeas corpus. That means that the government can lock anybody up for any reason and not even have to tell them why. Accuse them of being an “enemy combatant”—a neologism that justifies anything, and is robotically and thoughtlessly accepted by Boobus americanus—and anything is possible. Including a trip to a CIA black site in some Third World hellhole. This is something I thought was settled in Western Civilization with the Magna Carta and King John. But we’re going backwards in most areas of personal freedom. And America, of all places, is leading the way—even while falling behind economically.

I don’t know if I can put my finger on exactly when we’re going to go over the edge, but if I was going to guess I would think the real catalyst is going to be the next 9/11-type event. And I don’t doubt it’s going to happen.

How are we any different than the Germans in the 1930s? This was one of the most civilized, best educated countries in Europe and they fell into the abyss. I suppose we’re a bit different. Americans are addicted to welfare, anti-depressant drugs, food, and electronic devices. That should certainly give us a better outcome…

There’s a joke I like to tell. Let me ask you this: Which is the gravest danger? Is it the ignorance, or is it the apathy of the average American today? Stumped? Here’s the answer: I don’t know and I don’t care.

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hedgeless_horseman MadHatt Sat, 12/16/2017 - 18:09 Permalink


"What happened here was the gradual habituation of the people, little by little, to being governed by surprise; to receiving decisions deliberated in secret; to believing that the situation was so complicated that the government had to act on information which the people could not understand, or so dangerous that, even if the people could not understand it, it could not be released because of national security. And their sense of identification with Hitler, their trust in him, made it easier to widen this gap and reassured those who would otherwise have worried about it. "This separation of government from people, this widening of the gap, took place so gradually and so insensibly, each step disguised (perhaps not even intentionally) as a temporary emergency measure or associated with true patriotic allegiance or with real social purposes. And all the crises and reforms (real reforms, too) so occupied the people that they did not see the slow motion underneath, of the whole process of government growing remoter and remoter.

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Code Duello hedgeless_horseman Sat, 12/16/2017 - 19:34 Permalink

Sometimes you need more than an internet link:
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They Thought They Were Free: The Germans, 1933-45 Milton Mayer

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Croesus redmudhooch Sat, 12/16/2017 - 22:21 Permalink

All these asswipes should read more about the times leading up to the rise of National Socialism, before mentioning Hitler.

And for Christ's sake, stop posting references to WWII history books that are written by Kikes - all you'll get there is the usual bullshit they're known for.

"The Nazis Lampshaded my Aunt Ethel".

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ConfederateH hedgeless_horseman Sun, 12/17/2017 - 04:42 Permalink

"the gradual habituation of the people, little by little, to being governed by surprise"

That is almost as ridiculous as Doug Casey's:

"How are we any different than the Germans in the 1930s? This was one of the most civilized, best educated countries in Europe and they fell into the abyss."

The Germans had lived through the Dolchstoss (Stab in the Back), Versailles, the Turnip Winter, Weimar, Hyperinflation, Judea declaring war on Germany and then once again trying to starve them.They knew about Kaufmann's "Germany Must Perish".  They had experienced the degradation and slander of their culture by jewish controlled media in England, US and France in the lead up to the allies (with US participation) openly declared attempt to starve 20m Germans after WWI.  And as the war was turning for the worse in 1944, they knew that the Allies had the Morgentau plan ready for them.That all Hitler and Goebbels had to do was tell the Germans the truth to keep them fighting to the last man was born out after the war:  The Hellstorm and Rhine Meadows prison camps where German soldiers and people were systematically starved and murdered.  There were hundreds of thousands of Red Cross care packages waiting in Geneva for starving German POW's, but Eisenhower refused to let them be delivered because the plan from the beginning was the genocide of Germany. So please stop propagating lies from all the "steins", "bergs" and "thals", its time the US got a glimpse of the truth and their leading role in the destruction of western christian civilization.

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BrownCoat MadHatt Sun, 12/17/2017 - 08:26 Permalink

"Is it possible?  It's already here."Doug Casey is probably trying to break the news gently. Someone strongly indoctrinated cannot deal with the truth in one go.  Comparisons with Nazi Germany are less helpful. America will never be Germany (or France or Russia or China). The US has its own police state apparatus and laws. We're here. The only argument is about how much worse will it get. 

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BrownCoat Aeonios Sun, 12/17/2017 - 08:31 Permalink

@ Aeonios,"Where are we going to find more islamic terrorists now that they've all immigrated to Europe?"You jest. The muslims already in this country are enough to out breed you! Multiple wives on welfare. You can't compete!First generation muslims are more likely to be terrorists than their immigrant parents.

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Son of Captain Nemo Sat, 12/16/2017 - 18:54 Permalink

While not related with the "home fires burning"...

Look at what just wandered into Syria with Russia downsizing it's Air Force and other "assets" (…)?...

If you had to guess I'd say that the PRC along with the Russian Federation ain't too keen on President Chumps threats on "Rocket Man" let alone China's interest(s) and business arrangement versus "pure military" in Africa!... The Chinese like to do business without "pretexts" like this one ( using it as an excuse to torture, murder and loot a potential "client"!

Doesn't look like Ninja Jew "Goldman Sacks guy Max Keiser" & pals is going to find BTC server farm(s) in the heart of the Republic any time soon without proper scrutiny... Which means Hong Kong and Taipei is the only "Asian" BTC you'll be hearing about until there is inclusion for the Russian Federation and PRC at the table of blockchain development or they just build their own which of course is happening -as we speak!... Just like SWIFT... Out with the threats!... In with the alternative mechanisms for payment everyone else can now enjoy as the new MC of the "dinner party" MIR "HAS ARRIVED"!...

That Petroyuan is definitely "RED" and jing... jing... jinglin to greet the New Year!... COMIN TO TOWN everywhere else but CONUS, U.K. and EU!!!

css1971 Sat, 12/16/2017 - 17:59 Permalink

"Anybody that speaks German knows that a reasonable translation of Homeland Security is Geheime Staatspolizei" Not quite. "Geheime" means "secret". But "Staatspolizei" just means state police. You'd have to combine a couple of spagetti agencies to get the equivalent; FBI and NSA would probably do it.

TeethVillage88s css1971 Sat, 12/16/2017 - 19:50 Permalink

Ja, Ja, Ja,... I agree. We also have private Intelligence Agencies that get to gather all police and govt data on all citizens & non citizens... works great amoung Anglo Countries in Five Eyes...

- Citizen, Sovereign, loses rights granted by Declaration of Independence & US Constitution... like offshoring jobs... a citizen gets his background spread to all countries with Treaties with the USA, UK, EU, or whatever... no conviction is needed! No Due Process! And you can be at Risk of Bodily Harm from Background Type Data! You could be killed for unproven type accusations!

- Today we see Corporations & Govt destroying careers based on Fascist Type Info

** New York-ification ** New Yorkification ** NewYorkification **

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css1971 Sat, 12/16/2017 - 18:05 Permalink

"Americans are addicted to welfare"


"We and we alone [the Nazis] have the best social welfare measures. Everything is done for the nation…"? Goebbels (“Our Socialism” editorial was written on April 30, 1944)
redmudhooch css1971 Sat, 12/16/2017 - 20:35 Permalink

Bibi, Trump, Assad, Saddam & Fink’s Bar… is what Bibi Netanyahu said while sitting at the head of that private table in Fink’s Bar (transcribed from a secretly recorded audio of Netanyahu at that meeting – words that few Americans, Israelis or others have seen or heard until today):“If we get caught they will just replace us with persons of the same cloth. So it does not matter what you do, America is a golden calf and we will suck it dry, chop it up, and sell it off piece by piece until there is nothing left but the world’s biggest welfare state that we will create and control. Why? Because it is the will of God and America is big enough to take the hit so we can do it again and again and again. This is what we do to countries that we hate. We destroy them very slowly and make them suffer for refusing to be our slaves.”

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khnum Sat, 12/16/2017 - 18:08 Permalink

Ask Milton Hall a homeless man shot 11 times for stealing a cup of coffee about truth,justice and the American way it already is a police state.

Hugh Mann Sat, 12/16/2017 - 18:11 Permalink

Is a police state possible? Open your fucking eyes! We're already in a police state. The cops are dressed up in storm trooper costumes and you can't fart in public without getting fined.

elephant Akzed Sat, 12/16/2017 - 19:32 Permalink

and surprise ... he is Jewish.How are we any different than the Germans in the 1930s? This was one of the most civilized, best educated countries in Europe and they fell into the abyss. I suppose we’re a bit different. Americans are addicted to welfare, anti-depressant drugs, food, and electronic devices. That should certainly give us a better outcome… Weimar Germany and present-day US both controlled by the tribe.

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redmudhooch elephant Sat, 12/16/2017 - 20:37 Permalink

THE SEXUAL DECADENCE OF WEIMAR GERMANY“The decay of moral values in all areas of life—the period of deepest German degradation—coincided exactly with the height of Jewish power in Germany.”  — Dr Friederich Karl Wiehe, Germany and the Jewish Question.No account of the Jewish Question in Germany can be complete without some mention of the tidal wave of sexual immorality that was to engulf the country during the period of the Weimar Republic (1919-1933) following World War One. This also happened to be the apogee of Jewish power in Germany. Every single sphere of major influence had now fallen under Jewish control.The Jews had managed, in the space of a mere fourteen years, to bring about a major “transvaluation of values” [4] in Weimar Germany. The vices of the past were now its virtues. The only vice that remained was chastity.

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VWAndy Sat, 12/16/2017 - 18:11 Permalink

 If they tried now it would blow up right in their faces. The benifit of doubt is not theirs. They lost control of the narrative also. Secondly everyone knows whats up. Its gotten that hard to ignore even for diehard cult members. Only those on the payrolls are going for it mostly to keep their jobs. Id say they took it too far already. When we stop enabling them. Thats when the real fun starts.

skinwalker Sat, 12/16/2017 - 18:22 Permalink

I greatly fear that in order to produce the proper amount of panic and lament, the next 9/11 will have to be nuclear.

Most likely a strike on Raleigh blamed on the norks. The city is expendable and will engage young southerners, who are the backbone of the military.