'Global Warming' In The Sahara Desert: "We Woke Up To See Snow!"

Authored by Mac Slavo via SHTFplan.com,

It snowed 16 inches in the Sahara Desert near the town Ain Sefra in Algeria after a storm hit on Sunday. This is the third time in 40 years that snow has fallen on the city.


Residents also awoke to snow in 2016 and 2017.  But this time, they got about 16 inches of the white stuff.



While the actual town of Ain Sefra only saw a few inches of snow, the sand dunes in the desert, which is on the outskirts of the town, were covered.

“We were really surprised when we woke up to see snow again. It stayed all day on Sunday and began melting at around 5 pm,” said Photographer Karim Bouchetata. 

When Bouchetata says “again”, the photographer is referring to another snowstorm not long ago. In 2016, the town known as “The Gateway to the Desert” saw deep snow shortly after Christmas and it caused chaos, with passengers stranded on buses after the roads became slippery and icy.

But children made the most of it, sledding down the desert sand dunes and building snowmen.

The cold snap comes as Europe and the United States froze in bitter temperatures. Winter Storm Grayson, battering the US east coast, has seen the sea freeze in Cape Cod, along with the Niagara Falls in stunning scenes.

“Cold air was pulled down south into North Africa over the weekend as a result of high pressure over Europe,” said a spokesman for the Met Office earlier. 

“The high pressure meant the cold weather extended further south than normal.”

Ain Sefra is about 3,281 feet above sea level and surrounded by the Atlas Mountains.

The Sahara Desert covers most of Northern Africa and it has gone through shifts in temperature and moisture over the past few hundred thousand years. Although the Sahara is very dry today, it is expected to become green again in about 15,000 years and was green in the past.  This change was blamed on “global warming” or “climate change.”



yomutti2 Tue, 01/09/2018 - 17:27 Permalink

How many times do I have to tell morons that the fact that it snows somewhere doesn't disprove global warming ?!


In fact, weird weather (not uniformly warmer weather) is exactly what one expects from global warming.


J S Bach yomutti2 Tue, 01/09/2018 - 17:29 Permalink

So, does "the fact that" global temperatures are decreasing disprove global warming or are we now living in some sort of anti-matter universe in which everything is the opposite of what it seems?

And where on earth is Al Gore?!  I really want to hear his take on all of this snow and super-arctic freezes we're experiencing.

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American Psycho Giant Meteor Tue, 01/09/2018 - 17:38 Permalink

If I've told you once, I've told you a million time.  when the planet warms it is due to MAN MADE global warming.  When we see freak events like, ummm, snow in the desert, this is also a result of global warming.  Basically global warming can explain everything. Remember when Pres. Obama said ISIS was a result of global warming?  What more evidence do you need?

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Slack Jack Oliver Klozoff Tue, 01/09/2018 - 20:04 Permalink

Global warming can bring extra snow fall to certain areas.

If the temperature in winter is minus 40 degrees then there will be no snow.

It is too cold for the air to contain any moisture at all. It will have precipitated out somewhere else.

If the temperature at the same spot is increased to zero degrees, then there is the possibility of plenty of snow, because the air may still contain much moisture.

So global warming can locally cause significantly more snow fall.

The current lower temperatures in the eastern US & Mexico have been caused by a disturbance in the jet-stream.

The disturbance in the jet-stream is probably due to global warming.

Record-Setting Hurricanes; Record temperatures; Record-Setting Wildfires; ya think it might be global warming?


So, why is the global rise in temperatures so worrisome?

For one thing, as temperatures rise good farmland will become desert (e.g., dust-bowl conditions will probably return to the American Midwest).

Another major problem is sea-level rise.

Have a look at http://pubs.usgs.gov/fs/fs2-00/

or a copy of that page at http://www.preearth.net/pdfs/USGS-sea-level-and-climate.pdf

The U.S. Geological Survey people claim that;

The Greenland ice sheet melting will raise sea-level 6.55 meters (21.5 feet),
the West Antarctica ice sheet melting will raise sea-level 8.06 meters (26.4 feet),
the East Antarctica ice sheet melting will raise sea-level 64.8 meters (212.6 feet),
and all other ice melting will raise sea-level 0.91 meters (3 feet).

For a grand total of about 80 meters (263 feet).

So, what does an 80 meter (263 feet) rise in sea-level mean. Have a look at the following map of the world after an 80 meter rise. It means that over one billion people will have to be resettled to higher ground and that much of the most productive agricultural land will be under water. Fortunately, at current rates, the Greenland ice sheet will take over a thousand years to melt and the Antarctica ice sheet, much longer. However, the greater the temperature rise the faster the ice sheets will melt, bringing the problem much closer. Remember, the huge ice sheet that recently covered much of North America, almost completely melted in only 15,000 years (today, only the Greenland ice sheet, and some other small patches of it, remain). Since then (15,000 years ago), sea-levels have risen about 125 meters (410 feet), only 80 meters to go.

The ice sheets have been continuously melting for thousands of years. What is left of them today, is still melting, and will continue to melt. Human caused global warning will cause this remnant to melt significantly faster. This is a big, big, problem.

For HUGE detailed maps of the "World after the Melt" go to:


Global temperatures are increasing. And by quite a lot each year.

2016 is the hottest year on record for global temperatures.

This is 0.0380 degrees centigrade hotter than the previous record year which was 2015.

0.0380 is a large increase in just one year.

2015 was the hottest year (at that time) for global temperatures.

This was 0.1601 degrees hotter than the previous record year which was 2014.

0.1601 is an absolutely huge increase in just one year (at this rate temperatures would increase by 16 degrees in a century).

2014 was the hottest year (at that time) for global temperatures.

This was 0.0402 degrees hotter than the previous record year which was 2010.


The conspiracy to hide global warming data.

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) is given tax money to make global temperature records available to the public. However, certain people at NOAA continually sabotage this aspect of NOAA's mandate. For example, these people have (deliberately) sabotaged the web-page that delivers the temperature records.

Look for yourself:

Go to the page: https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/monitoring-references/faq/anomalies.php scroll down to the The Global Anomalies and Index Data section and click the download button and see what happens. Well, you get the message:

"Not Found. The requested URL /monitoring-references/faq/anomalies-download was not found on this server."

I guess that the 2017 data must be truly horrible if they have to hide it away.


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Moe-Monay Slack Jack Tue, 01/09/2018 - 21:25 Permalink

Global warming is a total scam. Every time I see an argument for MMGW I see how bad the scientific method is being used and I realize the people making the argument are political in nature.  I have NEVER seen anyone with real scientific or technical talent argue for it.  All the ones who have made that argument are pretenders.  

But it looks good on you Slack Jack............

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DjangoCat Slack Jack Tue, 01/09/2018 - 21:44 Permalink

Sorry slack, hate to be rude, but when you spew pages of text, we older guys start to lose focus.

I want to focus on one of your early points, that cold -30 C  temps are dryer than warmer temps.  In fact, the low temps have higher relative humidity, and do produce snow.  The snow is very fine.

As the temperature warms, the relative humidity declines.  This is why the leeward sides of mountains are so dry.

So, sorry, I did not read through the whole screed, but stopped at the first major error.


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Slack Jack DjangoCat Tue, 01/09/2018 - 22:59 Permalink

DjangoCat Jan 9, 2018 9:44 PM

Sorry DjangoCat, but colder temps are dryer than warmer temps.

Specific humidity of a kilogram of air (at average sea level pressure)

Temp. (°C) Grams of water vapor per kg of air (g/kg)

-40 0.1
-35 0.2
-30 0.3
-25 0.51
-20 0.75
-10 1.8
0 3.8
5 5
10 7.8
15 10
20 15
25 20
30 27.7
35 35
40 49.8

And your "As the temperature warms, the relative humidity declines. This is why the leeward sides of mountains are so dry." is also totally wrong:

The leeward sides of mountains are dry because in order for the air mass to rise and pass over the mountains it is forced to drop the water it is carrying. Thus not much water for the leeward side. You know, a rain shadow area.

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virgule Rock On Roger Tue, 01/09/2018 - 22:09 Permalink

It regularly freezes in the desert at night, and has been doing so for thousands of years. The only thing unusual in this story is that some water happened to fall from the sky at the same time - which is unusual for the desert, but not unheard of. 

No big deal and not a proof of anything. (I don't believe in man-made climate change BTW)

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Lumberjack Billy the Poet Tue, 01/09/2018 - 17:41 Permalink

But, boy is it getting warm...

The Greenies want weed in Massachusetts and complain that other states and the guv itself say no...


then... The same greenies want to put flaming windmills in Maine (and elsewhere) so that the forests and beauty of the region is ruined against the will of the folks there.

I say no weed until the folks in Ma. (goes for you too Mayor Marty and IBEW 104) decide to cease and desist. Goes for two former Maine governors too.

No wind horse shit in Maine and mind your own fucking business. Keep your heroin and drugs dealers there too.


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johnnycanuck J S Bach Tue, 01/09/2018 - 19:37 Permalink

The fact that all the factors people who warn of global warming are real, is what matters.

I live in what used to be a very cold place and the big snows were common. But that was long ago and there hasn't been anything close to that sort of climate since the late 80's. And it was waning before that for some years.

Deniers are idiots, but they have a lot of help from the Heritage Foundation, a Koch Bros vehicle.

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MozartIII Raffie Tue, 01/09/2018 - 17:36 Permalink

A lot of dead snakes in that desert currently. Froze their tits off waiting for Al Gore. Get the oil while you can. If you need a snake oil press, just let me know. 20% off for the first 100 buyers. Lifetime warranty. Don't try to get oil from live vipers ect...

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Raffie yomutti2 Tue, 01/09/2018 - 17:30 Permalink

How many times we do tell the global warming idiots THE SUN CONTROLS ALL WEATHER ON ALL PLANETS.

How is it that all planets warm and cool according to the how active or less active the sun is. To tell me humans have messed Earth up so much that all the planets are effected due to man?


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nuubee yomutti2 Tue, 01/09/2018 - 18:16 Permalink

How many times do I have too tell morons like yourself who just believe what the mainstream media says that the people issuing "predictions" are full of shit?


Dr David Viner, a senior research scientist at the climatic research unit of the University of East Anglia said that within a few years winter snowfall will become "a very rare and exciting event". "Children just aren't going to know what snow is," he said.



An article from the Guardian quoted a number of scientists in 2004 predicting the end of Skiing as a sport.



American scientist Wieslaw Maslowsk in 2007, said the Arctic would be ice free by 2013, and that was a "conservative" estimate. The arctic is still loaded with ice.



When are idiots like you going to wake up and smell your own stupidity for believing climate predictions from people looking for attention in the mainstream media?

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Max Victor yomutti2 Tue, 01/09/2018 - 18:19 Permalink

OK so let me explain the Science of Climate Change in easy to understand bite size chunks.

We live in a spiral Galaxy with arms that look like tentacles - it rotates and we are on one of those arms about 4/5 the way out.

The arms flip or go up and down as the Galaxy rotates about its center creating differing situations for our local star as we take over 20,000 years to make one rotation.

During the Galactic Cycle the local star experiences feedback from everything else in the Galaxy to a greater or lesser degree during the cycle as the arm flips up and down, up and down etc -   that is why we always experience climate change - because the Galaxy positions of bodies always change.

The Climate will always change - it is a kinetic and chaotic natural system -  the cores of ALL our solar system planets are currently warming - SUVs  did not heat up the cores and CO2 is in fact 0.05% of atmosphere and is an essential plant nutrient and is 1/20 the greenhouse gas of water vapor - GET IT?

Are there any questions from the Galactic Cycle Deniers?

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Dr. Yzterbaard Max Victor Thu, 01/11/2018 - 00:03 Permalink

CO2 levels are intriguing. It’s 0.036% in the athmosphere but a minimum 4% in the human body. It buffers the oxygen’s propensity to oxidise the cells. At 7% you sleep deep and dream a lot. The body works hard to keep CO2 levels high. Ditto other animals. 

High CO2 atmosphere levels close the stoma on the plant leaves. Less water is then evaporated and needed. Plants grow faster and bigger. I wonder what the CO2 levels were to have grown plants nutritious enough to sustain a 100t Argentinosaurus with a mouth no bigger than a laundry basket. 

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heavens-door yomutti2 Tue, 01/09/2018 - 18:39 Permalink

How many times do I have to tell you, the next mini-ice-age starts now.

Solar minimum + Saturn and Jupiter's orbits are cycling closer to each other which is pulling Earth's orbit slightly further away from the Sun = mini-ice-age.  

There are reports all over the world not of more snowfall necessarily but that the snow isn't melting year round. When snow stacks up year after year it's a bad time for locals.

Good thing about snow stacking up is Lowering the sea levels. But I'm getting ahead of myself.  Just wait a few years you'll see what I mean.

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Oliver Klozoff heavens-door Tue, 01/09/2018 - 19:56 Permalink

" Solar minimum + Saturn and Jupiter's orbits are cycling closer to each other which is pulling Earth's orbit slightly further away from the Sun = mini-ice-age."

That sounds like a twisted take on Milankovich cycles which don't measure up mathematically to the actual occurance of the ice ages of the past.

Rolf has a better explanation:


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