Trump Blasts FISA Act Ahead Of House Vote On Reauthorization

Update: As the House prepares to reauthorize FISA, Axios reports that Republicans were caught by surprise Thursday morning when the president unexpectedly blasted the FISA act, claiming it helped the Obama administration "surveil and abuse" the Trump campaign.

One source close to the GOP leadership said "I have decided that the only way to stay sane in Trump's Washington is to ignore everything he says."

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As the House prepares to vote Thursday on a measure to extend a package of controversial FISA protections that have been opposed by a bipartisan group of lawmakers, President Donald Trump ripped the law in a tweet early Thursday: "'House votes on controversial FISA ACT today." This is the act that may have been used, with the help of the discredited and phony Dossier, to so badly surveil and abuse the Trump Campaign by the previous administration and others?"



...Though he quickly clarified that he was taking steps to reform the unmasking process and that the provision coming to a vote on Thursday  pertained primarily to foreign surveillance.



The final vote on the provision is expected around 11:45 am, according to Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy.

As the Hill explains, the House is set to vote Thursday on renewing what's known as Section 702 of FISA - a law that allows the National Security Agency to collect texts and emails of foreigners abroad without an individualized warrant, even when they communicate with Americans in the US.

Trump’s suspicion of the law stems from Obama-era National Security Adviser Susan Rice’s decision to “unmask” several Trump campaign associates, a decision that may have played a role in the FBI’s decision to launch the Russia investigation.

Some Republicans have speculated that the Obama administration learned of former national security advisor Michael Flynn's calls with Russia's ambassador to the US through Section 702.

The legislation to be considered by the House includes some small changes meant to appeal to critics of the law. It would require the FBI to obtain a court order before reviewing the content of queries for Americans’ information in the database - though an order would not be required to search the database in the first place - and allow such an order only when investigators want to use the information in a criminal case.

A number of lawmakers do not think that goes far enough, however, an a bipartisan amendment, backed by Rep. Justin Amash, imposing restrictions designed to protect Americans who are swept up in government spying on foreigners overseas will also get a vote. The amendment is known as the USA Rights Act.

Amash's language would require investigators to obtain a warrant in order to search the 702 database for Americans’ information in criminal cases.

Officially, the White House rejected proposed amendments that would roll back some of the intelligence-sharing provisions of the FISA Act, and instead asked lawmakers to extend and preserve the provision as is.



As the Hill explains, Trump's White House has been aggressively lobbying for months for a clean, permanent renewal of the 702 authority, which the intelligence community maintains is critical to identifying and disrupting terror plots.

However, while the bill - with the few minor tweaks mentioned above - will likely pass the House, it faces strenuous bipartisan opposition in the Senate.

As the Washington Examiner reports, Sen. Rand Paul is preparing to filibuster the bill in the Senate to try and force a provision that would require the FBI to obtain a warrant to examine data gleaned from incidental surveillance of Americans.

"My worry is that they also collect information on millions of Americans, and I don’t want that database to be searched without a warrant," Paul said.

"I will filibuster and do whatever to stop that," he added.

Section 702 permits the intelligence community to oversee foreign communications and will expire on Jan. 19. But those who oppose the program claim it permits warrantless collection of private information from U.S. citizens.




Shitonya Serfs yrad Thu, 01/11/2018 - 09:58 Permalink

1) NSA collects all data

2) Investigator looks at parts of data to find something interesting

3) Said investigator seeks warrant based on what they see

4) Uses warrant to build case based on data already collected

5) Makes case from this process


Seems reasonable to me

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Khan Bucklin The_Juggernaut Thu, 01/11/2018 - 13:29 Permalink

Quick Wiki search provides an answer. If you're looking for evidence that Obama was sitting in the Oval, watching Trump's every move on a screen, good luck with that.  That's what you get for not taking Trump tweets with a 50 gallon drum of salt.


On April 11, the Washington Post reported that the FBI had been granted a FISA warrant in the summer of 2016 to monitor then Trump adviser Carter Page.[78] According to the report, "The FBI and the Justice Department obtained the warrant targeting Carter Page's communications after convincing a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court judge that there was probable cause to believe Page was acting as an agent of a foreign power, in this case Russia, according to the officials." The report also states that the warrant has been renewed multiple times since its first issue.

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Thought Processor TuPhat Thu, 01/11/2018 - 11:09 Permalink


" to so badly surveil and abuse the CITIZENS of the United States."


there, fixed it for ya.  The truth is hard to ignore.  If it was able to be used as a weapon against an incoming president then simply put, it should be abolished, as no one is beyond being 'set up' by it.  One does not need more evidence that this system has been terminally corrupted.  It's that simple.


Initiate an audit of FISA actions since inception.  Use the OIG.  Call it a 'Constitutional Audit.'  Make results public.  

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herbivore BaBaBouy Thu, 01/11/2018 - 10:26 Permalink

I won't vote for Trump again. Actually, he has nothing against the Deep State as long as they have nothing against him. I'm surprised the Deep State powers-that-be don't see that. If they all just put aside their egos for a moment, they, Trump and the Deep State, would see that they both want the same thing- maximum centralized control over their subjects. That's what should matter to them, not this petty bickering between opposing "sides".  

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herbivore HippieHaulers Thu, 01/11/2018 - 11:03 Permalink

You are aware, I presume, who is in his cabinet. Doesn't that tell you something? Do you think Trump has a moral aversion to the use of power, whenever and wherever possible, to achieve his aims? If Trump thought he could get away with it, you don't think he would use every trick in the book, including "politicizing" the three-letter agencies? I actually think Trump is slightly less evil than the average pol. I think he's too smart, at least at this point, to engage in illegalities that skirt the law because he knows they're looking at him with a fine tooth comb. But is his Justice Dept looking at "them" with the same scrutiny? Don't make me laugh.

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shovelhead BaBaBouy Thu, 01/11/2018 - 10:37 Permalink

Jihad Joe in Libya has no rights to privacy under the Constitution. Joe Citizen in Brooklyn does.

If Joe calls Joe, then go to court with some evidence that Joe Citizen is a bad guy plotting to blow up something. The fact that a FISA court was used as a political weapon against a citizen means it's corrupt beyond repair. Bounce all of them out. They breached their Constitutional limits which is a criminal offense.

This would happen if we had a Justice Dept. with accountability. Ya, I know. When pigs fly...

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Jtrillian BaBaBouy Thu, 01/11/2018 - 11:37 Permalink

The illegal domestic surveillance of US citizens without a warrant or probable cause is only one symptom of many of how corrupt our government is at all levels.  Voters don't matter.  The deep state is not elected.  Money talks in Washington and the revolving door spins like a top.  Corruption is so rampant, it is neither illegal or hidden.  Congressmen can profit on insider information (no thanks to the Stock Act and Harry Reid who put a stop to it).  Special interests not only put their puppets in power and select their candidates before the election but write their own laws verbatim and hand them over to their puppets WHO DON'T EVEN READ THE TEXT THEY ARE PASSING!

This is not conspiracy folks.  This is the country you live in.  The only reason Trump is pissed about it is because it AFFECTED HIM!  If you think he cares about you, then you haven't been paying attention. 

Everyone except those who are supportive of a police state, and neo-feudalism are in for a rough time.  That is, of course, if this once great nation doesn't get turned into a pile of ash for starting WWIII - likely in 2018. 

Realize this didn't happen overnight and it didn't happen without the people's consent.  Folks didn't have a problem with special interests taking over our government despite repeat warnings from Eisenhower, Kennedy, Reagan and others.  Folks believed what the MSM spoon fed them.   People didn't bother to question or hold their leaders accountable.  They allowed their rights to be systematically stripped away with new legislation that made the constitution effectively obsolete.   This goes back to at least Wilson, the formation of the FED, the Counsel On Foreign Relations, Rockefeller, the Rothchilds, JP Morgan, .etc.  What we are experiencing now is the maturity of a corrupt government who no longer exists for the people it claims to represent and instead sees them as an obstacle (as Rex Tillerson so eloquently put it). 

All evil needs is for good people to remain silent.  The American people have remained collectively silent (divided, and distracted) for generations.  I do not see them uniting any time soon. 

Insane times indeed...


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LetThemEatRand JibjeResearch Thu, 01/11/2018 - 10:51 Permalink

Yep, let's just rewrite the Fourth Amendment to say:

"The right of the [good citizens] to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated [unless we deem you to be a bad citizen], and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized, [except we can collect everything without a warrant upon probable cause and because you have nothing to hide it's okay]. 

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JibjeResearch LetThemEatRand Thu, 01/11/2018 - 11:22 Permalink

The NSA must have good people or things will turn really bad.

Use AI to analyze for meaning ... to keep people out of the way...

There are many things to be in place to ensure that this law is safe for the good citizen.

If this law does not passed, the small number of criminals will destroy the nation.

This law is a must, it's also a must to keep good citizens from wicked minds.


Not doing it is a negligence of leadership.

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Jtrillian JibjeResearch Thu, 01/11/2018 - 14:52 Permalink

Nothing double edged about it.  That's the KOOL-AID  talking.

"Arguing that you don't care about the right to privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than saying you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say," - Edward Snowden

Your rights aren't worth the paper they were written on unless we are willing to stand up for them.  Unfortunately, the majority of people in the US have no idea what the Bill of Rights entails or it's importance. 

What do you think happens next?

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trulz4lulz Shitonya Serfs Thu, 01/11/2018 - 12:07 Permalink

Except from all the actual evidence of how FISA is being used it goes like this.

1)Create global crime syndicate using mafia handbook.

2)Create global surveillance apparatus allowing for warrentless gathering of all information and sift through it in Utah.

3)Appointment of "special agents" to oversee said crime syndicates daily functions. 





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JRobby yrad Thu, 01/11/2018 - 10:06 Permalink

This is what "the legislature" works on most of the time.

"Perfecting the lock" the elite have on free speech, expression, information exchange, etc. Doing nothing for the electorate other than the process of enslavement with secret tribunals and total surveillance.

Since approval rate is the lowest in history, we see this needs to come to a head soon.

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LetThemEatRand GunnerySgtHartman Thu, 01/11/2018 - 10:48 Permalink

See, that's the beauty of the police state.  They will say they can't show you proof without revealing their methods, so they have created a perfect circle of unaccountability.  "We can't protect you if we show you how we're protecting you.  Trust us."  And most of the sheep bahaha obediently and say "thank you sir may I have another," as evidenced even here on ZH.

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Chupacabra-322 JRobby Thu, 01/11/2018 - 10:24 Permalink

@ JR,


These Pure Evil War Criminal Treasonous Seditious Psychopaths have been Incrementally implementing this Agenda for quite sometime .  Slowly, as planned.  All done by Design, all done by Agenda.  


How has the Criminal Tyrannical Lawless Surveillance started & continues till today with impunity & grown to gargantuan proportions.


Room 641A. That's how.


The entire US populace has been under metadata surveillance since that little pesky AT&T room 641A & since October 2001. Right after the False Flag of 911.




According to the Times piece, the siphoning of internet data from AT&T began in 2003 and continued for a decade in a relationship that the NSA called “highly collaborative.” The telecom giant, according to one Snowden document, was extremely willing to help out the spy agency, and its engineers “were the first to try out new surveillance technologies invented by the eavesdropping agency.”


According to the Times, AT&T began turning over emails and other internet data to the spy agency around October 2001, even before the secret rooms were built, in a program dubbed “Fairview.” The program forwarded 400 billion Internet metadata records to the NSA’s headquarters at Ft. Meade in Maryland—which included the senders and recipients of emails and other details, but not the content of the correspondence. AT&T also forwarded more than one million emails a day to be run through the NSA’s keyword selection system. In September 2003, AT&T apparently enabled a new collection capability for the spy agency, which amounted to a “‘live’ presence on the global net.” The Times doesn’t elaborate on what this involved.


The Illegal, Criminal surveillance continues to this day with Impunity especially after the Criminal Centralized Telecommunications Companies were given retroactive immunity by a Criminal, Tyrannical Lawless Supreme Court.

It's the exact reason why the absolute, complete, open in your Face


Tyrannical Lawlessness


continues to this day.


But in the US, large and powerful actors must not be and are not subject to the rule of law. So telecoms hired former government officials from both parties to lobby for them and poured money into the coffers of key Democratic Senators such as Intelligence Committee Chairman Jay Rockefeller (who became the chief advocate of telecom immunity).


In 2008, the industry obtained an extraordinary act of Congress that gave them the gift of retroactive immunity from all criminal and civil liability for their participation in the illegal eavesdropping programs aimed at Americans on US soil. The immunity was enacted by an overwhelming bipartisan vote, with the support of leading Democrats including Barack Obama, who had promised - when seeking his party's nomination - to filibuster any bill that contained retroactive telecom immunity.


My take,  Parallel Construction Intel Operations such as the one against Trump will be carried out against any individual or group which may attempt to disrupt the Globalist Plan to achieve Total Complete Full Spectrum World Domination

Dissent, even at a local level will be met with Parallel Construction & Neutralization & or Elimination.  IE. Seth Rich.


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