"Why Would We Come?" Norwegians Respond To Trump's Immigration Offer

"Why do we want all these people from Africa here? They're shithole countries ... We should have more people from Norway."

Residents of shitholes may not be welcome in the US, but as president Trump said yesterday, when it comes to Vikings, America's customs gates are wide open. But do Norwegians feel the same about emigrating to the US? As Reuters observes, many citizens of the Scandinavian nation appeared lass than enthusiastic on Friday by Trump's suggestion.

The Nordic country, one of the richest in the world by GDP per capita thanks to its $1+ trillion government pension fund funded by the country's oil industry, was last year named the happiest nation on the planet and is known for a cradle-to-grave welfare state. This may explain why so many locals compared the US to a "shithole."

It started with the country's statistics agency. While hundreds of thousands of Norwegians emigrated to the U.S. in the 19th century, just 502 out of a population of 5.3 million people moved there in 2016, down 59 from the previous year, according to Statistics Norway.

"Will there be more now?" the statistics agency asked in a tweet.

Here are some more reactions:

  • "On behalf of Norway: Thanks, but no thanks," tweeted Torbjoern Saetre, a politician representing Norway's Conservative Party in a municipality near Oslo.
  • "We are not coming. Cheers from Norway," one woman wrote.

Government officials, seeking to deflect attention, turned down a chance to comment.

  • "We respectfully decline the opportunity," one government official said when contacted by Reuters.


Some suggeste that the reference to Norway may have been prompted by Prime Minister Erna Solberg who visited the White House on Wednesday when the president praised Norway for running a trade deficit with the United States and for buying U.S. military equipment.

Not everyone saw it that way, however. Christian Christensen, an American professor of journalism at Stockholm University in neighbouring Sweden, tweeted:

"Of course people from #Norway would love to move to a country where people are far more likely to be shot, live in poverty, get no healthcare because they're poor, get no paid parental leave or subsidized daycare and see fewer women in political power. #Shithole"

Before the "shithole" controversy, former Swedish Prime Minister Carl Bildt tweeted that, judging by Solberg's visit, "keys to success with Trump is personal charm, a solid trade deficit with the U.S. and buying tons of U.S. military hardware."

As Reuters adds, Solberg, whose office also declined to comment on Trump's remarks, is expected to announce soon an expansion of her cabinet to include Norway's Liberal Party, a centrist group that favours strong environmental policies and more immigration.

"The first point of order in the new government declaration: Norway will still not be a shithole country," tweeted Kjetil Alstadheim, the political editor of financial daily Dagens Naeringsliv.

Here are some additional reactions to Trump's proposal:

And then there was this, which is likely self-explanatory

Comments

knukles JimmyJones Fri, 01/12/2018 - 14:13 Permalink

OK then since you're all lovie dovie nice and inclusive, we'll be shipping you all our illegals.  Oh no, not forced, we're paying their one way ticket and adding a vacation stipend.
You should be happy..... Helping your fellow man, helping him rise above whatever it is he needs to rise above and why he's a refugee invader, doesn't want to go back home or integrate into the new culture .... but never the fuck mind.

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Joe Davola knukles Fri, 01/12/2018 - 14:16 Permalink

While watching this past fall's cycling world championship from Bergen, it was clear that the facades of some of those lovely fjord front buildings were nothing but facades - faked colorful printings draped over the front of shops.  Left me wondering what they really looked like.

At least they don't have a repressive government like most petro-economies.

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knukles Yukon Cornholius Fri, 01/12/2018 - 14:21 Permalink

Leftists, 2017: “Norway has a great society."
Trump, 2018:  “Norway has a great society.”
“RACIST!”

Leftists, 2018 (yesterday): “You can’t send people back to Haiti! It’s horrible there!”
Trump, 2018 (today):        “Haiti is a horrible place to live.”
“RACIST!”

If the shit-holes were not shit-holes, they'd be prime tourist destinations
Chew on that for a while

When's the last time a Dem took a boondoggle vacation to Haiti, stayed a few weeks, enjoying the people, charm, culture and natural beauty?

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Beam Me Up Scotty knukles Fri, 01/12/2018 - 14:28 Permalink

" Some things about Norway:
🔹Universal healthcare
🔹Paid family leave
🔹Shorter work weeks
🔹More vacation time
🔹Incredible education system "

Ya, and you get a whole lot of that on the back of the AMERICAN taxpayer.  WE pay to defend your asses.  And we pay ALOT to defend your asses.  And we pay ALOT to defend ALOT of people's asses.  And I for one am sick of paying to defend your ungrateful ass, and go to work more so that you can have the above items.  You can start taking care of YOUR OWN ASS, and see how much of those items on the list you can keep.  Better cut down on the vaca, because you've got work to do.

Furthermore, YOU can start taking these people from the "shithole" countries, and YOU can start paying to take care of them.  Instead of taking your long arm and patting yourself on the back about how WE should be taking care of them.  Start walking the walk.  And when those people import their shithole into your country, then you might start to see things a bit differently.

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Tom Servo overbet Fri, 01/12/2018 - 16:02 Permalink

Yeah, Norway definitely has less black people and mexicans.

The US wasn't a bad place when it had less black people and mexicans...

 

The "great" comedian Anthony Jeselnik kind of tanked a Richard Pryor joke at a roast, and a black comedian there said "too many white people Anthony".  Jeselnik responded with, "you know what you never hear?             Too few black people"....

 

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Blue Boat ThaBigPerm Fri, 01/12/2018 - 20:48 Permalink

Here's an interesting bit from your first link:
Norwegian citizenship is difficult to obtain, requiring migrants to have had permanent residence in Norway for seven continuous years and a record of good conduct. Norway-born children of two foreign parents must wait until age 18 to apply for citizenship.

That report written in 2005 but, why do I guess that policy has changed little, if at all.

People from countries that tightly control their own immigration ought not yap about others who want to do the same.

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overbet ThaBigPerm Fri, 01/12/2018 - 21:37 Permalink

The US has stringent criteria as well by law. The problem obviously being the laws arent followed or enforced. My wife is from another country and we've done things legally. Its expensive, tedious, time consuming and a general pain in the ass. If we had to do it over again I'd just bring her across the border illegally. The government would protect her more and shed even be entitled to handouts. I had to sign papers swearing I wouldnt allow her to become a financial burden to the US. Border jumping shed get the royal treatment. Grade A above a citizen.  

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swmnguy Cast Iron Skillet Fri, 01/12/2018 - 17:11 Permalink

Well, there you have it.  They don't need defense.  

Of course, America doesn't need defense either.  Our military hasn't been used for defense against a foreign power since 1815.  203 years ago.

Indeed, there's not going to be any fixing of the US economy or US society as long as we spend over $1 trillion per year on Wars of Empire.  That's where our persistent national debt and budget deficits come from.  Social Security is self-sustaining if Congress would stop stealing the money, and make some very minor tweaks to the caps on income subject to Social Security tax.  Medicare and Medicaid would be self-sustaining if we would enact some basic oversight of the healthcare finance sector, which is the second biggest fraud in America today, just behind the military racket and just above the drug/law-enforcement/prison system industry.

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Buckaroo Banzai JimmyJones Fri, 01/12/2018 - 14:44 Permalink

"very true, an economy can't support Socialism if you have to spend on military."

We don't know this for sure, it's arguable that the Norwegian economy could support socialism and a military at the same time, given their substantial oil wealth. But this is assuming a 100% white Norway. Because what we do know for sure is, an economy can't support socialism if you have to spend on niggers.

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swmnguy Beam Me Up Scotty Fri, 01/12/2018 - 17:14 Permalink

Defense from what?  Whom?  Why do the Europeans need to spend anything on the military?

If we agree that Europe faces an existential crisis from the refugees sent their way by US military adventurism, that's still not an issue that can be solved by military means.

Not every problem is a nail.  Actually almost no problems require that particular hammer, unless one goes out of one's way to make it so.

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DollarMenu Beam Me Up Scotty Fri, 01/12/2018 - 14:55 Permalink

Unclear how USA Is funding Norway's budget, unless it's buying their North Sea oil.

Just what is the USA funding defense for?

Its own alCIAda ,ISIS creations?

Maybe it's own regime change operations?

It is very unclear just what the US is doing with all the "undocumentable adjustments" to the Defense Dept's budget.

About $21 trillion.

https://thedailycoin.org/2017/10/01/catherine-austin-fitts-21-trillion-…

Trump's audit may reveal something to be legitimately pissed about.

 

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Beam Me Up Scotty DollarMenu Fri, 01/12/2018 - 15:35 Permalink

" Unclear how USA Is funding Norway's budget, unless it's buying their North Sea oil. "

https://www.nato.int/cps/su/natohq/nato_countries.htm

 

Norway is a member of NATO.  The US and its taxpayers pay a hell of alot more for NATO defense than anyone else, INCLUDING Norway.  Your token money and your token military aren't the ones keeping you from being a Russian vassal.  As far as I am concerned NATO should be disbanded.  We have two large oceans on either side of us, and we have plenty of ability to defend ourselves.  Most countries in NATO are on NATO welfare, and then you have the audacity to spend that additional wealth on "more vacations".  Pay to defend your own ass.

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ProstoDoZiemi Beam Me Up Scotty Sat, 01/13/2018 - 10:10 Permalink

America has this syndrome where they need to be everywhere and anywhere and must know everything and anything.

The US will put a post here or there saying they are defending taking money in the process and all it is, is that if they don't put a post there someone else will. And of course any difference, the US tax payer takes the bill...

This is especially true when you have Russia and China playing the world map.

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Expat Beam Me Up Scotty Sat, 01/13/2018 - 13:51 Permalink

US pays more for NATO because the US considers NATO to be it's "bitch."  The US pays for NATO to carry out its military and political policies.

The proper question with regards to NATO is why the rest of NATO pays anything at all to help the US maintain and advance its fascist, capitalist empire.

So fuck you and your pompous "welfare" bullshit.  We don't want you or need you (and now some cunt will trot out WWII and claim we would all be speaking German if not for the US...if that's the last thing you did for us, you can truly fuck off.)

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Not Too Important Beam Me Up Scotty Fri, 01/12/2018 - 15:04 Permalink

Norway lives and dies by North Sea oil, which is running out. They are depleting their Sovereign Wealth Fund to pay bills. Norway is essentially an extraction economy, and when the oil runs out their socialist economy dies. 

I wonder if they can get a refund of all the billions they gave to the Clinton Foundation? I'm sure the average Norwegian who's about to lose everything approved any of those donations.

And when the money runs out, they won't be able to afford all those shiny US weapons. Will we give them for free like we do Israel, or will we just walk away? 

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MEFOBILLS Beam Me Up Scotty Fri, 01/12/2018 - 15:15 Permalink

Norway can do those things because they are all Johansons: that is son's of John.

In otherwords a homogenous country occupied by one closely related tribe, can do socialism.  They see their neighbors as their genetic kin. 

Maybe these "enlightened" folks from Norway would care to analyze Sweden.

Tell us, how is that socialism in Sweden working out with Muslims and Dindus added to the population?

Norway also has north sea oil income, and they have done a pretty good job of using oil profits for the good of the country, not funneling it into privateer pockets.

It gets tiresome hearing narratives from our "elites" even Norwegian elites,  when what they spout is dumber than shit, and indicates they don't know how the world works.  It seems to be a requirement for politicians, to spout idiotic comments.

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Dump Beam Me Up Scotty Fri, 01/12/2018 - 18:45 Permalink

You pay for it with money you borrow from the rest of us.

What you buy is US military hardware.

Its all circular and the cash ends up in the hands of:

  • Lockheed Martin Corporation. 
  • The Boeing Company. ...
  • Raytheon Company. ...
  • General Dynamics Corporation. ...
  • Northrop Grumman Corporation. ...
  • United Technologies Corporation. ...
  • L-3 Communications. ...
  • BAE Systems.

But don't worry it will resolve: one day we will stop lending you money.

 

 

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ProstoDoZiemi Dump Sat, 01/13/2018 - 10:27 Permalink

Hypocritical to say when a country so far in debt is borrowing to paying the interest present day.

Norway has no obligations to buy from any of those companies, I can imagine America going ape shit if Norway would buy Sukhoi planes let alone Bombadier.... dem Canads Aiiii how would that make you feel

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