Watch The State Department Respond As US Ally Turkey Attacks US-Backed Forces In Syria

Contradiction has become the norm for US foreign policy over the past many years - an observation that is clear to anyone even remotely paying attention.

On Tuesday the US State Department spokesperson was asked during the daily press briefing about the obvious contradiction inherent in US ally and NATO member Turkey shelling US-backed Kurdish forces in Afrin - the Kurdish held zone in northwest Syria near the Turkish border.

It's not the first time that a US partner force has attacked another US partner force in Syria (and then there's this Vice News headline from 2016 indicating it's sometimes gone three ways: "Three US allies are now fighting each other in northern Syria").

Thus far US military officials have sought to distance themselves from YPG (Kurdish People's Protection Units) operations in Afrin while simultaneously promising to ramp up support for the Kurdish YPG-dominated Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) throughout the rest of Northern Syria. US Coalition spokesman Col. Ryan Dillon said Tuesday of the Syrian Kurds in Afrin, "We don't support them, we have nothing to do with them" - in what was a clear case of the Pentagon trying to dance around the issue with old-fashioned double speak, pretending as if the Syrian Kurds themselves don't see "Rojava" Kurds as a single entity.

As a Pentagon spokesman recently told Defense One: "The Coalition is working jointly with the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) to establish and train the new Syrian Border Security Force (BSF). Currently, there are approximately 230 individuals training in the BSF’s inaugural class, with the goal of a final force size of approximately 30,000."

Turkey's President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan said of the new US-backed Border Security Force, which obviously is to be heavily Kurdish in composition, that it is akin to the US hosting a "terror army" along Turkey's border. Erdoğan has vowed "to strangle it before it’s even born."

Meanwhile Turkey has amassed a huge invasion force to oust the YPG from Afrin Canton, and sporadic fighting and shelling is widely reported to have already begun. This as Secretary of State Rex Tillerson has indicated "the Unites States will remain in Syria" while continuing to train its SDF proxies and bolster its new "Syrian Border Security Force."

Watch as Heather Nauert fumbles through a response to an excellent and obvious question: What is the US position as its NATO ally is shelling its number one ally in the fight against ISIS in Syria?...

Here is the exchange:

QUESTION: The Turkish military began shelling Kurdish positions in Afrin province in northern Syria. What is the U.S. position as its NATO ally is shelling the - its number one ally in the fight against ISIS in Syria?

MS NAUERT: Okay. I’m afraid I don’t have anything for you on that.

QUESTION: Can NATO--

QUESTION: Can we move on, please?

MS NAUERT: Okay. Sir?

QUESTION: So you - wait, so you are saying - does--

MS NAUERT: I don’t have a specific report on whether or not we can confirm that that has taken place. Okay.

QUESTION: Okay. Well, along the same lines, there’s also been the announcement of a border force consisting primarily of Kurdish militias allied with the U.S. and the SDF along the Syrian-Turkish border, and President Erdogan called it a terror army and said he would strangle it before it’s born. So this is another place where there’s kind of a contradiction between two U.S. allies.

MS NAUERT: Yeah.

QUESTION: So I’m just wondering if the U.S. has a position on this.

MS NAUERT: Well, Turkey is a very important and valued NATO ally. We have a lot of interactions with the Turkish Government. As you probably know, the foreign minister of Turkey is in Vancouver right now, where I believe he will be meeting or have some sort of a chat with Secretary Tillerson, or at least some of our representatives later today. So an important NATO ally.

In terms of what is going on in Syria, the United States is in Syria to defeat ISIS. Any activities that we take part in with regard to the Syrian Democratic Forces is something that’s internal only - internal only to Syria. And I say that because it is important that we defeat ISIS, that we make sure - and when I say “we,” I say that not just on behalf of the United States, but the entire coalition, the 72 or 73-member coalition - the importance of not letting ISIS take root the way that they had before and further destabilize that country. So that -what the United States is involved with with regard to the Syrian Democratic Forces or the SDF is that, to defeat ISIS. That is solely what it is for. The internal purpose is of defeating ISIS.

QUESTION: But if Turkey does indeed attack the border force, what will the U.S. do?

MS NAUERT: I’m not going to get into any kind of hypothetical like that. Okay? Thank you.

Someone should inform the State Department that this "hypothetical" is already fast becoming the new reality on the ground. But such a blatant contradiction in which a US-backed force attacks another US-backed force is nothing new in Syria, yet no less outrageous as when it began happening years ago in the Syrian conflict. 

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GUS100CORRINA Yen Cross Thu, 01/18/2018 - 02:48 Permalink

Watch The State Department Respond As US Ally Turkey Attacks US-Backed Forces In Syria

My response: NEWS FLASH!!!! Turkey is NO LONGER a US ALLY!!! Turkey is now aligned with RUSSIA and IRAN per meeting that took place with leaders of each nation late in 2017!! 

Remember that the USA supposedly removed its nuclear ordinance from Incirlik Air Base shortly after ERDOGAN took over.

The TYRANT OF TURKEY can NOT be trusted.

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Moe-Monay 07564111 Thu, 01/18/2018 - 05:19 Permalink

NOTE: I am atheist complete.

That said when I saw the note above about bible:  If you have not read Hal Lindsay's "The Late Great Planet Earth" you might want to scan it.  It was written in the 1970s.  

Interesting thing is it seems to track events with the "United States of Europe" and Russia attacking Israel from the north.  Now for the longest time I thought "hey Russia's no where near involved in the middle east"  and went to sleep on the topic.

Then the Syria thing happened and now their right next door.

Also talked about how the USA had become "feckless".  If a SJW does not appear feckless to you perhaps you should see your optician.

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two hoots BlindMonkey Thu, 01/18/2018 - 08:04 Permalink

Failing businesses act the same, uncoordinated, dysfunctional, saying and promising results, and the employees, the soldiers on the ground, will take the beating as usual, then eventually the rest of us.  US = GE in many ways

My instincts tell me our imbedded influential civil servants in State, intel services, consulting institutions are the main source of our continued approach to reliving and repeating our same ol' foreign policy problems.  They have worn out the newly appointed heads and they, Tillerson and the like, are surrendering to the rote cause. 

I really wanted Tillerson/Mattis to use their own experiences and skills to take us to higher ground and new ways in our approach foreign polity in this changing world.  We should never sacrifice strength but not always enforce our ways from the end of a barrel.  In a strange way people will support the cost bombing and killing vs just giving.  Why, the just giving usually proves corrupt, you know the list.  Hence we are a broken system.

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BandGap Moe-Monay Thu, 01/18/2018 - 07:16 Permalink

Along those same lines, I am Catholic, a lot of biblical discussions in the 70s revolved around the same scenario. You were incorrect to think Russia has not been involved in the Middle East for a long time. They have been an influence in Egypt and Syria since the end of WW2. Just look at the tanks used in the '67 and '72 Israeli wars. They have been part of the fabric for decades.

Countries are choosing sides and making plans.

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Muslimania Moe-Monay Thu, 01/18/2018 - 12:22 Permalink

The only thing Hal Lindsey got wrong was the time-table. Don't forget, the "generation" was defined in the old Testament (after Nimrod and the confusion of tongues) as "...three-score and ten..." years.

 

Guess whose 70th birthday is coming up in May of 2018??????????

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Muslimania Moe-Monay Thu, 01/18/2018 - 12:22 Permalink

The only thing Hal Lindsey got wrong was the time-table. Don't forget, the "generation" was defined in the old Testament (after Nimrod and the confusion of tongues) as "...three-score and ten..." years.

 

Guess whose 70th birthday is coming up in May of 2018??????????

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greven40 booboo Thu, 01/18/2018 - 08:17 Permalink

Obedience.  The land promise was fulfilled way back in Joshua.  To remain in the land, the children of Israel had to be obedient to God.  Fast forward, those who are obedient to God will believe and obey the gospel of Jesus Christ.  Those who deny Jesus are called antichrist and Christians are told to not so much as wish God speed to those who don't hold the doctrine of Christ.

"Judeo-christian" is an oxymoron.  It's a cult that has adopted the leaven of the Pharisees.  They support antichrists while looking at the newspapers for a man they want to call "Antichrist".  Their traditions have replaced the word of God.

The land was the physical shadow of the perfect rest in Christ.

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bshirley1968 greven40 Thu, 01/18/2018 - 09:32 Permalink

You are 100% correct on every point. I try to tell these truths to my "Christian" friends and they look at me as though I just personally killed "6 million" Jews. Makes me think of the phrase, "they shall deceive the very elect".

It is obvious Satan is using today's Jewish/Israel to copycat and corrupt....as he always does.

Not many understand your last point. I would bet you have read, "The Saving Life Of Christ".

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S.N.A.F.U. bshirley1968 Thu, 01/18/2018 - 19:25 Permalink

(speaking as an agnostic who knows Christianity better than most self-proclaimed Christians)
Ask them:
* if they know what original sin is,
* by what means original sin can be cleansed,
* what happens in the afterlife to those who have not been cleansed of original sin (especially those who had ample opportunity to do so but chose not to),
* whether or not jews partake in such cleansing,
* if jews are so good, why are they headed towards such a "less than ideal" afterlife?

Of course what will happen is that cognitive dissonance will kick in, they will literally reject Christian beliefs (in order to protect the status of jews in their own mind) while being completely unaware they are doing so, and will vehemently deny they have done so after you point it out to them.

What I find most interesting about that is that MSM indoctrination, indoctrination most people don't even notice is happening to them in this case, so easily over-rules logic and allegedly-firmly-held beliefs in the typical person.  (And this is, of course, not even remotely the only situation where that happens.  Such weak-mindedness is basically a fundamental pillar upon which their entire lives are based, and consequently much of our society.)

 

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greven40 LiteBeeer Thu, 01/18/2018 - 08:06 Permalink

I suggest you read the scriptures to find out who Israel really is before you start trying to make up fake prophetic plans concerning the "jewish state".

I suggest for starters, Matthew 2:13-15--->Hosea 11:1.  Those who believe and obey the gospel have put on Christ and are part of the Israel of God.(Galatians 6:16, Romans 9:6-8, 1 Peter 2:9).

The "jewish state" is an antichrist state.  Pharisaism(judaism) is the traditions of the Pharisees rebuked by Jesus.

False labeling their "jewish state", Israel, is part of their antichrist deception, and makes it no more the Israel protected by God than if today a Jose and Maria naming their kid Jesus would make him the Messiah.

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HominyTwin LiteBeeer Thu, 01/18/2018 - 11:27 Permalink

Zionist Christian asshole alert! Christians used to believe that God had revoked his covenant with the Jews and given it to Christians. Generally, their outlook has agreed with history. The Romans destroyed Judea in the 1st century. That's where the name Palestine comes from: it's the name Rome gave to the new, "cleansed" province around Judea.

Generally, the holocaust does not have an equivalent religious interpretation. Still, if they are the chosen people, God has a funny way of showing it.

 

Then along comes American christianity, usually based on distortions of literal interpretations of the Bible without any tradition or common morals/sense to back it up. Combine that with our history of con men and hucksters, many as religious leaders, and you have Christian zionism, a good way for degenerates like John Hagee to get a piece of the pie that goes to aiding Israel.

 

What a fucking stupid country I live in!

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CatInTheHat chinooky47 Thu, 01/18/2018 - 12:23 Permalink

The Zionist state,not Jewish state. Israel does not abide by religion but by ideology.

IsraHell has a right to nothing.

Not ONE DROP of Hebrew blood runs through the veins of the AshkeNAZI Kazharians, EUROPEAN 'Jews' who STOLE the land of PALESTINE and ETHNICALLY cleansed the Palestinian Arabs from their land. 

Israel biggest deception lies in biblical myths. 

Palestinian people are the REAL JEWS. 

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CatInTheHat chinooky47 Thu, 01/18/2018 - 12:24 Permalink

The Zionist state,not Jewish state. Israel does not abide by religion but by ideology.

IsraHell has a right to nothing.

Not ONE DROP of Hebrew blood runs through the veins of the AshkeNAZI Kazharians, EUROPEAN 'Jews' who STOLE the land of PALESTINE and ETHNICALLY cleansed the Palestinian Arabs from their land. 

Israel biggest deception lies in biblical myths. 

Palestinian people are the REAL JEWS. 

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stiler HominyTwin Thu, 01/18/2018 - 12:59 Permalink

Hate to intrude into your colossal ignorance, but Hagee does not represent evangelicals. He doesn't believe Jews need to believe in their own Messiah to be saved. Everyone ever born among women save One needs to be born again through Christ to be saved. Early Christians-- who were Jews-- did not believe God had revoked His covenant with Israel. It was only after Christ did not return in man's timing that he began to think the church was Israel (for all the good things spoken of her) and that Israel was forever cursed (for all the bad things). This was the time of the medieval Catholic church. Later in the 1500s when people began personally studying the Bible again, the movement of a revived Israel happened in Britain and then America.

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