Lawyer For Saudi Arabia Says Families Have "No Evidence" Kingdom Was Involved In 9/11

As the long-awaited civil trial of a lawsuit brought by families of Sept. 11 victims against the Saudi government, Saudi Arabia’s lawyers asked the US judge presiding over the case to throw out lawsuits claiming agents in the Saudi government helped al-Qaeda carry out the terror attacks in New York and Washington, arguing the victims haven’t provided any evidence to back their cases.

The Daily News reported that Attorney Michael Kellogg said lawyers for the Sept. 11 families have submitted 4,000 pages of materials as part of the suit accusing Saudi Arabia of providing material support to Al Qaeda ahead of the terror attacks.

"Conclusions, speculation, hearsay are not enough," Kellogg told US District Judge George Daniels at the hearing in Manhattan on Thursday.

"But there are no significant facts or evidence in the materials," Kellogg said.

The families of hundreds of victims who died during the attacks filed the landmark suit last March, six months after Congress passed a bill known as Justice Against Sponsors of Terrorism, or JASTA. Thanks to the law, a federal appeals court in New York late last year revived part of a $1.68 billion lawsuit against Iran's central bank, Bank Markazi, by families of soldiers killed in the 1983 bombing of the US Marine Corps barracks in Lebanon.

 

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The legislation, which was famously opposed by the Obama administration, opened the door for Americans to take legal action against countries that support terrorism.

However, Kellogg said the families seem to be taking the position that the law enabling their lawsuit provides all the cover they need to avoid it being quashed by a judge.

"The whole pitch seems to be JASTA itself is enough to see them over the line," Kellogg said.

Sean Carter, a lawyer for one of the plaintiffs, argued there’s extensive evidence that the Saudi rulers funded certain charities despite knowing that they funneled money to Al Qaeda. Of course, as we reported in July 2016, Congress released a long-classified report - the fabled “28 pages” - that was left out of the official 9/11 Commission report.

The secret documents were part of the 2002 congressional investigation into the Sept. 11 attacks. They had previously been classified since the report's completion. Democrats hailed the release as vindication for the Saudis, but some of their contents would suggest otherwise.

For example, the pages revealed that a telephone number found in the phone book of al-Qaeda operative Abu Zubaida, who was captured in Pakistan in March 2002, was for an Aspen, Colo., corporation that managed the "affairs of the Colorado residence of the Saudi Ambassador Bandar," the documents show.

Osama Bassnan, who the documents identify as a financial supporter of two of the 9/11 hijackers in San Diego, received money from Bandar, and Bassnan's wife also got money from Bandar's wife. "One at least one occasion," the documents show, "Bassnan received a check directly from Prince Bandar's account. According to the FBI, on May 14, 1998, Bassnan cashed a check from Bandar in the amount of $15,000. Bassnan's wife also received at least one check directly from Bandar."

The top two members of the House Intelligence Committee - including Trump antagonist Adam Schiff - at the time cautioned that much of the information in the newly released pages were not "vetted conclusions."

Schiff said he hopes the newly released pages will reduce the continued speculation over Saudi involvement. "I hope that the release of these pages, with appropriate redactions necessary to protect our nation’s intelligence sources and methods, will diminish speculation that they contain proof of official Saudi Government or senior Saudi official involvement in the 9/11 attacks," Schiff said in a statement. "The Intelligence Community and the 9/11 Commission...investigated the questions they raised and was never able to find sufficient evidence to support them.  I know that the release of these pages will not end debate over the issue, but it will quiet rumors over their contents — as is often the case, the reality is less damaging than the uncertainty."

Kellogg even pointed to the report, saying it conclusively showed the Saudi government was not involved with 9/11...

In making his case for the suit to be scrapped, Kellogg also pointed to the findings of the 9/11 Commission report, which he said cleared Saudi Arabia of funding the attacks.

The controversial report concluded that the panel “found no evidence that the Saudi government as an institution or senior Saudi officials individually” supplied money to Al Qaeda. But it did say that unidentified wealthy Saudi sympathizers, as well as Saudi charities, helped to finance the terror group.

"The 9/11 commission report, including its conclusions, is legitimate evidence before this court," Kellogg said.

However, Sean Carter, a lawyer for one of the plaintiffs, cited a CIA report naming a Saudi-backed charity as one of the principal financiers for the terrorist network.

Carter, the lawyer for one of the plaintiffs, referenced a CIA report that he said named a Saudi-backed charity as a principal funder of a terrorist training camp in Afghanistan.

"In the course leading up to 9/11, it was Saudi money that...allowed them to maintain an organization," Carter said.

The suit filed in March says Saudi Arabia assisted the 9/11 hijackers “through a network of the kingdom’s officers” and funneled money to terrorists for years through a number of charities.

The kingdom “actively supported Al Qaeda in its final preparations” for the terror attacks that killed nearly 3,000 people, the suit adds.

 

Comments

Sudden Debt Thu, 01/18/2018 - 19:55 Permalink

Like America would allow justice against their sugar daddy...

 

Those who died in 9/11 where just a 'cost' for the police state it now is.

 

And unlike the English or other countries that have been attacked, 9/11 really broke the back of America and scared the living daylights out of America. It never recovered.

benb bluez Thu, 01/18/2018 - 20:16 Permalink

Colonel Steven Butler, dean of the Defense Language School in Monterrey California (weeks after the 2001 event) stated in a letter to the San Jose Mercury News that 9-11 was a government operation. He stated that these people (referring to the hijackers) were trained at our base. He said he didn’t know exactly what happened, but (The Supposed ringleader) Mohamed Atta sat in my classroom along with two other ‘hijackers.’ For his honesty Colonel Butler was threatened with court martial.

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chunga benb Thu, 01/18/2018 - 20:38 Permalink

I hear a lot of times there would be so many people involved there would be no way it could be kept secret.

Well, for about a year now the experts in congress appear to be holding hearings about Russian election tampering*, that include prostitute piss dossiers, Awan bros, so on and so forth, and they're all making believe they've never heard of the murdered staffer and Julian Assange's offer.

*the dnc chair admitted to doing this in a book

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benb Yukon Cornholius Thu, 01/18/2018 - 23:34 Permalink

You apparently don't know how fucking dumb you sound. The others that up voted your idiot comment are on the low end as well. Honestly you sound like a brain damaged millennial.

When there are criminals within the government involved in subversion and treason good people that won't go along will call it out. No matter if it is ‘a secret’ or not.

Does the word Whistleblower ring a bell? Any names come to mind?

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benb sosoome Thu, 01/18/2018 - 23:08 Permalink

Triple Bullshit. The 'Hijackers' were all on terrorist watch lists. But they were allowed to travel back and forth to the US. Michael Springman, former head of the Visa section in Riyadh  for the State Dept stated unequivocally that he tried to deny many of them access to the US just prior to 9-11 and was overridden by the CIA. 

http://www.salem-news.com/articles/september112012/cia-911-visas-tk.php

Additionally the Defense Language School in Monterrey California is a spy training facility.

On September 13, 2001 the Washington Post reported that a "Mohammed Atta" attended 'International Officers School" at Maxwell AFB in Alabama in the 1990's. Atta was a Colonel in the Egyptian military. Maxwell AFB is another spy training facility.

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Sanity Bear Bes Fri, 01/19/2018 - 02:52 Permalink

Clue train, yo. Trump is using the threat of the release of that info to force the Saudis to suck his dick on command. Shortly after his visit there a whole host of top Saudis found themselves prisoners and no longer able to provide direct support to the likes of Hillary Clinton.

He'll have that leverage forever and it is probably in the best interest of the United States to have him leverage that power in our interests.

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sarz Bes Fri, 01/19/2018 - 05:54 Permalink

"don't have any expectations of Trump et al doing a fucking thing about 9/11"

It's not necessary at the moment for Trump to do anything. The Tribe got a bit greedy and over-reached. This case can blow Israel and the Neocons right out of the water. The FBI is on record that they have no evidence of Osama's involvement, so material support for supposed al Qaeda figures is of questionable relevance. When the case collapses Trump can deliver on his campaign promise to disclose all the secret material. If he doesn't, we can ask him nicely what he's waiting for.

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Ignatius knukles Thu, 01/18/2018 - 21:06 Permalink

What's a defense lawyer's attorney paid to say?  "My client is guilty as all hell?"

That's what alleged Boston Bomber, Djokar Tsarnaev's attorney did even though there was a substantive filing by a family attorney that the case should be thrown out due to the FBI's own exculpatory evidence (blown up backpack was BLACK, but the one Tsarnaev was carrying was light/medium GREY).

Bullsh#t is a common feature in these politically charged crimes.

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Chupacabra-322 Lost in translation Thu, 01/18/2018 - 20:08 Permalink

You mean, this evidence:

It is beyond the slightest shadow of doubt that Israeli agents had foreknowledge of the 911 attacks, and, together with scientific forensic proof of controlled demolitions of WTC 1, 2 and 7.   

 

The very first people arrested on suspicion of involvement in the 9/11 attacks turned out to be five Israeli Jews: Sivan Kurzberg, Paul Kurzberg (Sivan's brother), Oded Ellner, Yaron Shmuel and Omer Marmari. Their white Urban Moving Systems van was stopped and they were arrested within hours of the attacks, on the afternoon of 9/11/01. Sivan Kurzberg, Ellner and Shmuel had been observed by several eyewitnesses at the rear parking lot of the Doric apartment complex in Union City, New Jersey. They were seen atop the van with cameras, high-fiving, smiling, joking with cries of joy and mockery, hugging each other, and taking photographs and video of the Twin Towers within a few minutes of the first plane impact.

 

Marc Perelman of New York's Jewish weekly The Forward reported on March 15, 2002 that the FBI had concluded that at least two of the Israelis were agents working for the Mossad, and their employer Urban Moving Systems Incorporated was a suspected intelligence front. On September 14, 2001, Urban's owner Dominick Suter fled the U.S. for Israel. Perelman also tells on video of how he was able to confirm that, according to the FBI, two of the five Israelis were "Mossad agents". Christopher Ketcham says the transcripts of the Carl Cameron report were later removed from the Fox News website following pressure from Abe Foxman of the ADL, and replaced with the rather Orwellian message: "This story no longer exists".

 

When arrested, the Israelis - dubbed the "High-Fivers" by the FBI - were found to have airline tickets with immediate travel dates for destinations world-wide, and tie-ins to 9/11. Dual US-Israeli citizen Michael Chertoff, who co-authored the USA Patriot Act" and headed the Justice Department's Criminal Division in the aftermath of 9/11, is a prime suspect for pulling strings to get the Israelis released and sent home.

 

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esum Sudden Debt Thu, 01/18/2018 - 20:15 Permalink

how does the silerstein mossad slippery dick feel up your ass .... 

thermate... not thermite ...

wired with the cooperation and consent of the BUSH CLAN...

boom shaka laka.... deep state / globalists / cocksuckers 

now TRUMP HAS TO TAKEM DOWN...... 

awan

wasserman

podesta

clintoons... ultimate shit eating satanic child molester maggots 

and their spawn

and the brennan mueller comey clapper etc fbi ass licking douchebags 

 

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DaveyJones Sudden Debt Thu, 01/18/2018 - 22:29 Permalink

few realize "Cheney" is an Arabic name 

How did those dastardly Arabs: (1) lay all those explosives (2) schedule all those flight exercises on the same day (3) take over NORAD (4) make commercial planes do things no one else can do (5)  shrink a jetliner down to the size of a missile (6) make the most heavily guarded building in the world not defend itself and (7) make the us government immediately remove the most important physical evidence of the largest terrorist crime in US history immediately to China?

beats a flying carpet     

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ted41776 Thu, 01/18/2018 - 19:56 Permalink

if 15 of the 19 9/11 hijackers were SAUDI, would we have invaded IRAQ? you know, the country that was their biggest enemy at the time? no i didn't think so! it's just basic fucking logic people, get your shit together. they were obviously from iraq

Jtrillian Jtrillian Thu, 01/18/2018 - 20:40 Permalink

Just because someone says something doesn't make it true.  The #28Pages alone had enough evidence of collusion with the terrorists that further investigation should have been pursued but it wasn't because Saudi Arabia was an "ally" (with allies like these, who needs enemies). 

The Saudi's would no doubt deny the collusion they recently had with the Israeli's.  But again, saying it ain't so doesn't make it true. 

The TRUTH is the Saudi regime is one of the most tyrannical governments in the world and one of the worst violators of human rights.  Many of the freedoms we take for granted in many parts of the world are absolutely off limits in Saudi Arabia.  And if you dare to challenge the government, you lose your head in public.  But you NEVER hear about that on the 10 o'clock news (lies by omission). 

 

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