Things Are Getting Worse, Not Better: Round Ups, Checkpoints, & National ID Cards

Authored by John Whitehead via The Rutherford Institute,

Here in Amerika, things are getting worse - not better - as the nation inches ever closer towards totalitarianism, that goose-stepping form of tyranny in which the government has all of the power and “we the people” have none.

Take what happened recently in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

On Friday, Jan. 19, 2018, immigration agents boarded a Greyhound bus heading to downtown Miami from Orlando and demanded that all passengers provide proof of residence or citizenship. One grandmother, traveling by bus to meet her granddaughter for the first time, was arrested and taken off the bus when she couldn’t provide proof of residency.

This isn’t is a new occurrence.

A year ago, passengers arriving in New York’s JFK Airport on a domestic flight from San Francisco were ordered to show their “documents” to border patrol agents in order to get off the plane.

With the government empowered to carry out transportation checks to question people about their immigration status within a 100-mile border zone that wraps around the country, you’re going to see a rise in these “show your papers” incidents.

That’s a problem, and I’ll tell you why.

We are not supposed to be living in a “show me your papers” society.

Despite this, the U.S. government has recently introduced measures allowing police and other law enforcement officials to stop individuals (citizens and noncitizens alike), demand they identify themselves, and subject them to patdowns, warrantless searches, and interrogations.

These actions fly in the face of longstanding constitutional safeguards forbidding such police state tactics.

Set aside the debate over illegal immigration for a moment and think long and hard about what it means when government agents start demanding that people show their papers on penalty of arrest.

The problem with allowing government agents to demand identification from anyone they suspect might be an illegal immigrant—the current scheme being employed by the Trump administration to ferret out and cleanse the country of illegal immigrants—is that it lays the groundwork for a society in which you are required to identify yourself to any government worker who demands it.

Such tactics quickly lead one down a slippery slope that ends with government agents empowered to subject anyone—citizen and noncitizen alike—to increasingly intrusive demands that they prove not only that they are legally in the country, but also that they are in compliance with every statute and regulation on the books.

This flies in the face of the provisions of the Fourth Amendment, which protects the American people from undue government interference with their movement and from baseless interrogation about their identities or activities. The Rutherford Institute has issued a Constitutional Q&A on “The Legality of Stop and ID Procedures” that provides some guidance on one’s rights if stopped and asked by police to show identification.

Unfortunately, even with legal protections on the books, it’s becoming increasingly difficult for the average American to avoid falling in line with a national identification system.

We’re almost at that point already.

Passed by Congress in 2005 and scheduled to take effect nationwide by October 2020, the Real ID Act, which imposes federal standards on identity documents such as state drivers’ licenses, is the prelude to this national identification system.

Fast forward to the Trump administration’s war on illegal immigration, and you have the perfect storm necessary for the adoption of a national ID card, the ultimate human tracking device, which would make the police state’s task of monitoring, tracking and singling out individual suspects—citizen and noncitizen alike—far simpler.

Americans have always resisted adopting a national ID card for good reason: it gives the government and its agents the ultimate power to target, track and terrorize the populace according to the government’s own nefarious purposes.

You see, it’s a short hop, skip and a jump from allowing government agents to stop and demand identification from someone suspected of being an illegal immigrant to empowering government agents to subject anyone—citizen and noncitizen alike—to increasingly intrusive demands that they prove not only that they are legally in the country, but that they are also lawful, in compliance with every statute and regulation on the books, and not suspected of having committed some crime or other.

It’s no longer a matter of if, but when.

You may be innocent of wrongdoing now, but when the standard for innocence is set by the government, no one is safe. Everyone is a suspect. And anyone can be a criminal when it’s the government determining what is a crime.

Remember, the police state does not discriminate.

At some point, it will not matter whether your skin is black or yellow or brown or white. It will not matter whether you’re an immigrant or a citizen. It will not matter whether you’re rich or poor. It won’t even matter whether you’re driving, flying or walking.

Eventually, when the police state has turned that final screw and slammed that final door, all that will matter is whether some government agent—poorly trained, utterly ignorant of the Constitution, way too hyped up on the power of their badges, and authorized to detain, search, interrogate, threaten and generally harass anyone they see fit—chooses to single you out for special treatment.

We’ve been having this same debate about the perils of government overreach for the past 50-plus years, and still we don’t seem to learn, or if we learn, we learn too late.

All of the excessive, abusive tactics employed by the government today—warrantless surveillance, stop and frisk searches, SWAT team raids, roadside strip searches, asset forfeiture schemes, private prisons, indefinite detention, militarized police, etc.—started out as a seemingly well-meaning plan to address some problem in society that needed a little extra help.

In the case of a national identification system, it might start off as a means of curtailing illegal immigration, but it will end up as a means of controlling the American people.

As I make clear in my book Battlefield America: The War on the American People, whatever dangerous practices you allow the government to carry out now—whether it’s in the name of national security or protecting America’s borders or making America great again—rest assured, these same practices can and will be used against you when the government decides to set its sights on you.


Marge N Call Wed, 01/24/2018 - 21:27 Permalink

Build the wall you dumb fucks. When LEO can't be sure whether you are Mrs Smith or MS13 we can't hold them accountable. 

THAT's what they want, get it??


hedgeless_horseman Wed, 01/24/2018 - 21:27 Permalink


Get your helmet, rifle plates, and rifle, as things could get retarded.

Standing armies are controlled by the governments, which are now so obvioulsy controlled by the elite, and are very much a force of tyranny.  You see, local militias are controlled by The People, not the government, and are indeed, "necessary to the security of a free State."  I understand that many of our nation's founders agree with me on these points.…

sheikurbootie hoist the bs flag Wed, 01/24/2018 - 22:13 Permalink

If you're a Canadian liberal, then you're certainly a shit head.  I hope 11 million illegal Mexicans and 4 million Haitians, El Salvadorans, Syrians, etc. move to Canada.  Then and only then, can you talk shit. 

You have no idea what it's like.   I'll bet we have double the advertised number of illegals.  No one knows, because they're fucking not lawfully here.

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NoWayJose Wed, 01/24/2018 - 21:30 Permalink

If you do not pester people on the street, you will never catch the bad guys.  The cops in London, Chicago and Baltimore don’t bother the ‘free’ locals.  

jin187 NoWayJose Wed, 01/24/2018 - 21:39 Permalink

I don't care about catching the bad guys.  The cops job is to maintain law and order, not come up with excuses to search every person they see to find out if they can get them for a laundry list of minor crimes.  Our jails and prisons are filled to the brim with people that wouldn't have even been arrested in the past for their "crimes".  All so the cops and prosecutors can thump their chests, and show us how great they are at catching "bad guys".  Your local police and DA waste like 30k taxpayer dollars taking 10 grams of weed, or a rusty pistol off the street, and think they're the biggest heroes since Batman.

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shankster Wed, 01/24/2018 - 21:30 Permalink

Big gubmit always has it sights on you. Big Gubmit serves the deep-state and deep-state works for the shadow gubmit. And they all see We the People as tools and serfs to use as they see fit and for their own purposes and betterment.

HRH of Aquitaine 2.0 Wed, 01/24/2018 - 21:32 Permalink

Good. ICE should be checking those buses. I can't do anything without ID. I can't bank, I can't get cable, phone, cell, or internet service. I can't get a library card without ID. I can't leave or re-enter the US without ID. I can't get a loan or go to school without ID. I can't drive or buy a car or rent an apartment without ID.

I don't give a fuck about illegals. Deport those assholes. No ID? Bye.

LetThemEatRand HRH of Aquitaine 2.0 Wed, 01/24/2018 - 21:35 Permalink

If you want your police state, you can keep it.

You just pointed out the obvious solution -- you need to show ID if you want to do business in this country.  The police do not need to check your ID in random stops.  They just need to enforce the law and make sure that illegals cannot do business in this country in all of the ways you just mentioned.

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HRH of Aquitaine 2.0 LetThemEatRand Wed, 01/24/2018 - 21:44 Permalink

Showing ID is a minimal standard and does not equate to a police state. I don't understand how these illegals operate in the US. I certainly cannot do a fucking thing without ID!

As for enforcing ID to do business in the US, yes! But somehow these people show up and are able to sign up as part of the free $hit army, get benefits, suck off the government tit. How? I have no idea. Just being a legal citizen is hard enough.

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HRH of Aquitaine 2.0 Billy the Poet Wed, 01/24/2018 - 21:59 Permalink

Exactly! I haven't been stopped for anything in fifteen years, but if I were stopped I know where my license and insurance and registration are and can get to them in less than 30 seconds. I would also have no problem immediately notifying the officer that I have a weapon in my car, where the weapon is located, where my ammo is located, and would keep my hands on the steering wheel.

Would I disobey any LEOs commands? NO! I would not!

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Ness. HRH of Aquitaine 2.0 Wed, 01/24/2018 - 21:52 Permalink

I agree. I'm pushing 50 with a full on grey beard and beer belly and the chick at the convenience store just asked me for my ID to buy a six-pack.  I said, Do I look 20 to you?  She laughed and said no, sir (I'm not happy about being called sir since I self identify as a mopar muscle car, whatever), it's required for all alcohol purchases.  I thanked her, showed my ID and took my beer.  No protest, no pussy hat parade, no rioting.  I want America to have the same immigration laws as Mexico and Canada. 

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DeathMerchant LetThemEatRand Wed, 01/24/2018 - 22:04 Permalink

You're the asshole in this case, hands down. With millions of illegal fucks running around the country who shouldn't be here, it's the duty of every citizen to cooperate to aid LE in getting rid of those people. If you are hispanic here legally, you should fucking outraged that people simply strolled across the border while you jumped through the hoops. These are all bullshit arguments by people who actually support this illegal bullshit. And by the way, it's freedom from having to compete in any way, shape or form with assholes who shouldn't be here in the first place.

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jin187 Wed, 01/24/2018 - 21:33 Permalink

Who's this "we"?  You're preaching to the choir here.  Of course in a USA where the government can blow you away just for scratching your ass because someone called the Gestapo, and claimed you're a murderer, maybe it's too late for civil disobedience.