"An Organized Effort By Republicans To Obstruct": Democrats Draft Talking Points To Refute FISA Memo

Top House Judiciary Committee Democrat Jerry Nadler (D-NY) has circulated talking points to refute the four-page FISA memo created by GOP staffers for House Intel Committee Chairman Devin Nunes (R-CA), detailing abuses of US surveillance capabilities against the Trump campaign.

Maxine Waters (D-CA), Jerry Nadler (D-NY)

Nadler's talking points - which are separate from the official response by House Intel Committee Democrats - call the GOP-authored memo "deeply misleading," according to Bloomberg, and claims that Republicans are now "part and parcel to an organized effort to obstruct" Special Counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election. 

Until now, we could only really accuse House Republicans of ignoring the President’s open attempts to block the Russia investigation,” Democratic members of the House Judiciary Committee said in the four-page letter released on Saturday. The document provided a point-by-point rebuttal to the Republican memo alleging bias in Mueller’s probe of possible links between Russia and Trump’s campaign, according to Bloomberg's summary.

“With the release of the Nunes memo -- a backhanded attempt to cast doubt on the origins of the Special Counsel’s investigation -- we can only conclude that House Republicans are complicit in the effort to help the President avoid accountability for his actions and for the actions of his campaign,” reads the talking points.

The "Nunes memo," as Democrats call it, claims that the FBI obtained a FISA warrant against one-time low-level Trump advisor, Carter Page.

Carter Page was, more likely than not, an agent of a foreign power. The Department of Justice thought so. A federal judge agreed. The consensus, supported by the facts, forms the basis of the warrant issued,” Nadler writes in the rebuttal. 

Meanwhile, President Trump tweeted on Saturday morning that the FISA memo had "totally vindicated" him - despite the "Russian Witch Hunt" continuing. 

Trump then quotes a Wall Street Journal article which says "the FBI became a tool of anti-Trump political actors. 

Ranking House Democrat Adam Schiff (CA) disagreed, tweeting "quite the opposite, Mr. President." 

According to the New York Times, the FBI investigation into Russian collusion began after drunken Trump campaign volunteer, George Papadopoulos, reportedly told Australian diplomat Alexander Downer at a London bar in May, 2016 that “Russia had political dirt on Hillary Clinton.” When DNC emails began to leak, Australia apparently contacted US intelligence to report the drunken admission by Papadopoulos – igniting the Russia probe.

WASHINGTON — During a night of heavy drinking at an upscale London bar in May 2016, George Papadopoulos, a young foreign policy adviser to the Trump campaign, made a startling revelation to Australia’s top diplomat in Britain: Russia had political dirt on Hillary Clinton.

About three weeks earlier, Mr. Papadopoulos had been told that Moscow had thousands of emails that would embarrass Mrs. Clinton, apparently stolen in an effort to try to damage her campaign.

Exactly how much Mr. Papadopoulos said that night at the Kensington Wine Rooms with the Australian, Alexander Downer, is unclear. But two months later, when leaked Democratic emails began appearing online, Australian officials passed the information about Mr. Papadopoulos to their American counterparts, according to four current and former American and foreign officials with direct knowledge of the Australians’ role. -NYT

This is in stark contrast to GOP leaders who say that the salacious and unverified 34-page opposition research dossier triggered the probe. 

For the New York Times – much like CNN’s botched "Bombshell" report from a few weeks ago that Donald Trump Jr. was told about the WikiLeaks emails before their release, only to issue a major correction because Trump Jr. was told after they were made public (by a random person), this “startling revelation” by the NYT that Papadopoulos spilled the beans about Russia having dirt on Clinton was already public information.

The Washington Examiner's Byron York tore into the NYT report:

Some have suggested that Trump is now contemplating firing Rosenstein while give Mueller 30 days to present all evidence gathered thus far before shutting down his probe, although that move is sure to be met with renewed claims by Democrats that Trump will launch a constitutional crisis should he interfere in the probe in any way.

Read the Democrat talking points here:


Looney Sun, 02/04/2018 - 10:49 Permalink


But the Russian Witch Hunt goes on and on.

Instead of “Witch Hunt”, I would’ve used “the Deep State Jihad”, but it’s just me…   ;-)


toady Looney Sun, 02/04/2018 - 10:53 Permalink

See, this is a major problem with republicans.... they always let the demonrats frame the debate.

Luckily, they have Donald to snipe at them from Twitter now. In the past they'd just lay down at this point and let the demonrats take over.

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NoDecaf bigkahuna Sun, 02/04/2018 - 11:15 Permalink

Popcorn at the ready,

Does the Secret service have contingency plans to ward off CIA and FBI assassination attempts? 

Will we see local LE split along partisan lines or will they rally to the Constitution?

What about the military? Have enough generals been replaced at the state levels to influence the National guard?

Have the active duty branches been indoctrinated enough and sufficient political promotions to sustain a hard coup?

Stay tuned folks, more to come

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AlaricBalth seek Sun, 02/04/2018 - 11:29 Permalink

Shouldn't a FISA Court judge recuse themselves from any deliberations concerning Trump if their wife donated thousands of dollars to Hillary Clinton's campaign. It would be interesting to find out if Judge Boasberg is the FISA judge who signed off on the dossier warrant  

Judge Denies Request To Make James Comey's Memos Public


James Emanuel "Jeb" Boasberg (born February 20, 1963)[2] is a United States District Judge on the United States District Court for the District of Columbia, also serving as a Judge on the United States Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court; and former associate judge on the Superior Court of the District of Columbia

Boasberg married Elizabeth Leslie Manson in 1991.[4] His brother, Tom Boasberg, succeeded Michael Bennet as Superintendent of Denver Public Schools after Colorado Governor Bill Ritter appointed Bennet to the United States Senate in January 2009.[21][22]

Elizabeth Manson, wife of Judge Boasberg, donation data:




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Mr. Universe seek Sun, 02/04/2018 - 11:55 Permalink

Still congress voted to re-up FISA, no problemo.

The libtards appear to be possessed, continuing to spew out the same lies even though caught red handed. I can't tell whether they are just lying to try and save their asses or actually believe the shit coming out of their mouths. When I try to have a conversation with these people, there is none. Just a playback of the talking points and that it's all a GOP plot.

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sarz lew1024 Sun, 02/04/2018 - 22:38 Permalink

There are many non-Jews among the perps, 

Sure there are. They are 98% of the population, so you would expect a few. But that's individuals mainly against a Tribe better organised than most of the world's states. You do have some small organised Judaic-ethos (satanic) collectives of non-Jews like Skull and Bones and the secretly Jewish-controlled Masons (with the highest degrees reserved for Jews and an entire Jews-only lodge, the B'nai Brith whose famous Anti-Defamation League fame was brought into existence to literally help Jews get away with murder). America is under the control of secret societies, as JFK pointed out. That means (((them))). 

(((lew1024))), I presume. Or would that be [[[lew1024, SG]]]? 

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lew1024 eatthebanksters Sun, 02/04/2018 - 12:30 Permalink

No, that move is not even checkers, tic-tac-toe.

No, Trump knows what the IG has and how this plays out.  Without being inside the Deep Black Swamp, Democrats don't know what is coming, what the evidence is, so they are playing relatively-blind. Trump and the R's have all the high cards.

Have you not noticed how the entire DBS is on the defensive? That it all changed over the last 6 months?

DBS guys are losing comprehensively, and exposing themselves as they do so.

The timing of all this, with continuous exposures of DBS and Democrat's deep involvement with the ratlines and massive corruption in the year leading up to 2018 elections, is a thing of beauty, Trump's time as a reality tv star, I think.



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JimmyJones lew1024 Sun, 02/04/2018 - 12:48 Permalink

When does the civil war start, it's appears we are full speed heading for it so when? Honestly if these blatant criminals skate then the rule of law is done, if the rule of law is done why pay taxes. No taxes no govt because who will lend to a Govt that can't pay debts (at least interest on debt, never principal).

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bigkahuna SWRichmond Sun, 02/04/2018 - 11:27 Permalink

They are using steele's reputation as a premier Russian intel guy - but steele has provenly loaded his dnc research dossier with hyperbolic bullshit like golden showers and it has been debunked - yet the fbi and the doj knowingly and intentionally put this information into a fisa packet to surveille a guy named Page - and they have no conclusions on this guy - other than the fbi or cia or some other fed organization is sure he is a Russian agent?

Well - they watched Page - WHERE IS THE PROOF!? They have no proof of anything - all they were trying to do was keep tabs on Trump to get some incriminating information - even with the success of their underhanded fisa activities - THEY FAILED TO DO THAT!!

And where is the information leading to the unmasking of conversations with General Flynn!!! Where the fuck is that! Who did that and fucking WHY!!!

The papdopalus drunken incident is the epitomy of bullshit - some Aussie passes on that some drunk guy in a bar claims that the russians have dirt on shill. Then it makes it to a fisa packet?! WTF!!! HE SAYS SHE SAYS BULLSHIT!!!!! Can I just walk up to dc and claim I heard shill bragging about all the loot she made on uranium one influence peddling and get a fucking fisa warrant on her!!! NO!!!  NO I CAN FUCKING NOT!!!! This dim bullshit is one of the biggest in your face shit sandwiches I have ever seen!!! They usually try and hide it when they feed bullshit like this - but this is out in the open!

These people need to go now! Steele has no credibility, from Sessions on down the doj needs to be sanitized, from Wray on down the fbi needs to be sanitized - and all of the other ABC bullshit fed agencies as well.

Call the guard, call the Marines and MAKE IT SO!!! These criminals will assassinate whoever they need to in order to keep their beloved power. It is time to extricate them and neutralize them before they can do any further damage. 

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blindfaith bigkahuna Sun, 02/04/2018 - 14:00 Permalink

And where is the information leading to the unmasking of conversations with General Flynn!!!

It was a sting operation from the White House, planned.  They waited until Flynn was in the Dominion Republic, to THROW with Obamas instructions in hand, the Russians out of the house in New York just weeks before Trump was to take over.  What a great plan and opportunity to tap the Russian Ambassador's phone and 'catch Flynn' talking to him about just that. 


These Democrats don't understand how many long time Democrats they have forever lost  Remember when the Democrats said they had more College educated people and the Republicans had rednecks?  Well those educated Democrats now have a real education.

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lew1024 loveyajimbo Sun, 02/04/2018 - 12:35 Permalink

The IGs are doing those investigations, careful to follow every rule and law, to cross the i's and dot the t's.

Sessions recused himself to put Rosenstein out front, defending it all. Mueller is not fired, but the IGs information continues to come out showing how very biased the whole investigation has been. We are going to find that Mueller was the excuse for the continuing FISA warrants, I think.



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