Pat Buchanan Asks: "Is US Being Sucked Into Syria's War?"

Authored by Patrick Buchanan via,

Candidate Donald Trump may have promised to extricate us from Middle East wars, once ISIS and al-Qaida were routed, yet events and people seem to be conspiring to keep us endlessly enmeshed...

Friday night, a drone, apparently modeled on a U.S. drone that fell into Iran’s hands, intruded briefly into Israeli airspace over the Golan Heights, and was shot down by an Apache helicopter.

Israel seized upon this to send F-16s to strike the airfield whence the drone originated. Returning home, an F-16 was hit and crashed, unleashing the most devastating Israeli attack in decades on Syria. Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu says a dozen Syrian and Iranian bases and antiaircraft positions were struck.

Monday’s headline on The Wall Street Journal op-ed page blared:

“The Iran-Israel War Flares Up: The fight is over a Qods Force presence on the Syria-Israeli border. How will the U.S. respond?”

Op-ed writers Tony Badran and Jonathan Schanzer, both from the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies, closed thus:

“The Pentagon and State Department have already condemned Iran and thrown their support behind Israel. The question now is whether the Trump administration will go further. … Secretary of State Rex Tillerson (has) affirmed that the U.S. seeks not only to ensure its allies’ security but to deny Iran its ‘dreams of a northern arch’ from Tehran to Beirut. A good way to achieve both objectives would be back Israel’s response to Iran’s aggression — now and in the future.”

The FDD is an annex of the Israeli lobby and a charter member of the War Party.

Chagai Tzuriel, who heads the Israeli Ministry of Intelligence, echoed the FDD: “If you (Americans) are committed to countering Iran in the region, then you must do so in Syria — first.”

Our orders have been cut.

Iran has dismissed as “lies” and “ridiculous” the charge that it sent the drone into Israeli airspace.

If Tehran did, it would be an act of monumental stupidity. Not only did the drone bring devastating Israeli reprisals against Syria and embarrass Iran’s ally Russia, it brought attacks on Russian-provided and possibly Russian-manned air defenses.

Moreover, in recent months Iranian policy — suspending patrol boat harassment of U.S. warships — appears crafted to ease tensions and provide no new causes for Trump to abandon the nuclear deal Prime Minister Hassan Rouhani regards as his legacy.

Indeed, why would Iran, which, with Assad, Russia and Hezbollah, is among the victors in Syria’s six-year civil war, wish to reignite the bloodletting and bring Israeli and U.S. firepower in on the other side?

In Syria’s southeast, another incident a week ago may portend an indefinite U.S. stay in that broken and bleeding country.

To recapture oil fields lost in the war, forces backed by Assad crossed the Euphrates into territory taken from ISIS by the U.S. and our Kurd allies. The U.S. response was a barrage of air and artillery strikes that killed 100 soldiers.

What this signals is that, though ISIS has been all but evicted from Syria, the U.S. intends to retain that fourth of Syria as a bargaining chip in negotiations.

In the northwest, Turkey has sent its Syrian allies to attack Afrin and President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has threatened Manbij, 80 miles to the east, where U.S. troops commingle with the Kurd defenders and U.S. generals were visible last week.

Midweek, Erdogan exploded: “(The Americans) tell us, ‘Don’t come to Manbij.’ We will come to Manbij to hand over these territories to their rightful owners.”

The U.S. and Turkey, allies for six decades, with the largest armies in NATO, may soon be staring down each other’s gun barrels.

Has President Trump thought through where we are going with this deepening commitment in Syria, where we have only 2,000 troops and no allies but the Kurds, while on the other side is the Syrian army, Hezbollah, Russia and Iran, and Shiite militias from Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan?

Clearly, we have an obligation not to abandon the Kurds, who took most of the casualties in liberating eastern Syria from ISIS. And we have a strategic interest in not losing Turkey as an ally.

But this calls for active diplomacy, not military action.

And now that the rebels have been defeated and the civil war is almost over, what would be the cost and what would be the prospects of fighting a new and wider war? What would victory look like?

Bibi and the FDD want to see U.S. power deployed alongside that of Israel, against Iran, Assad and Hezbollah. But while Israel’s interests are clear, what would be the U.S. vital interest?

What outcome would justify another U.S. war in a region where all the previous wars in this century have left us bleeding, bankrupt, divided and disillusioned?

When he was running, Donald Trump seemed to understand this.


MK ULTRA Alpha two hoots Tue, 02/13/2018 - 15:59 Permalink

The Russian Jews represent 20% of Israel's population. The Russian Jews came to the US after the fall of the Soviet Union. We have a fifth column among us who are not pro-American, who are using the US to fight a war against Russia and to do Israel's bidding in the Middle East.

These Jews from Eastern Europe and Russia are the Khazars. A people who came into Europe in the mid 1200's. They have zero historical and DNA connection to the Middle East.

The American mind is a mind controlled mind, controlled by Gypsies.


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Big Whoop Give Me Some Truth Tue, 02/13/2018 - 14:58 Permalink

Clearly, Iran incited an attack to get more access to American military equipment, even if damaged. Just like this supposed drone actually originally came from America. You got to reinvest your early profits if you want to grow big.

On the other hand, maybe they fixed up the American drone and were trying to return it peaceably. Acts of kindness are never rewarded.

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Posa Badsamm Tue, 02/13/2018 - 11:44 Permalink

And furthermore, Iran has a land-bridge into Syria to defend the Assad government only because US based neoCon Likuds demanded a war with Iraq to take out Saddam... not that they care... the end objective is to "secure the realm" for Israel by rendering the entire ME into a wasteland... anew Carthaginian Peace.


Dumb- ass American follow orders.

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BobEore Badsamm Tue, 02/13/2018 - 11:59 Permalink

We fucking started the god damn war.

"YOU" don't matter much any more, kid. And while it was indeed 'by design'... by the time American exceptionalists finally realize that they've long been the tail wagging the dog... that design will have fulfilled its mission. American foreign policy - now fully controlled by talmudic mafiyas... is 'designed' to work against American 'domestic' interests.

I've stated clearly by whom and if you don't know where HQ of that cabal is by now - a map isn't gonna do you any good. But Buchs himself needs be corrected on one vital detail

Clearly, we have an obligation not to abandon the Kurds, who took most of the casualties in liberating eastern Syria from ISIS. And we have a strategic interest in not losing Turkey as an ally.

There are no 'obligations' in nation state relations... only - as Egon B wisely stated - 'interests' ... and in losing Turkey as an ally, the fulfillment of the plan to bust up Nato will be achieved. 

The stage is set - for a blood sacrifice of American soldiers in the north of Syria

' Why would a deliberately confrontational stance be chosen as the best way to deal with the very blustery and polemic noise from Ankara? Especially after the performance of the TSK against a rag tag bunch of militia in Afrin has once again demonstrated that entities decline in capability to the level of farce? Remember – these are “NATO allies” we’re talking about here – no some kind of inherited cold war hostiles still playing out old grudges!

We return to the precis as offered up here: these staged confrontations and deliberate provocations happening on many fronts now in Syria are a lead up to the theatrical production which only one player is capable of organizing – and pulling off! Do you still somehow doubt that Israel has the desire to make of Syria a flash point where white on white – America and Russia – blood begins to spill in unison with the brown on brown which has been a central focus of its foreign policy adventures for decades now? Even when it has been explained over and over again that the powerful Chabad ‘advisors’ behind the thrones of both powers are capable of guiding those countries into such a disaster? Fine. Then just watch."

Right before your disbelievin eyes.


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JSBach1 BobEore Tue, 02/13/2018 - 14:37 Permalink

Hi Bob: (sorry gotta make this quick, well catch up on another thread i'm sure, gotta run...)

The pieces you've linked are fascinating; now that I've got your main site I would like to read the rest of the articles later when time allows, but I'm not sure if you've read this:

Apparentlty, evidence emerged that US was retraining former ISIS and other proxies as  the newly rebranded: Syrian Democratic Forces offshoot called the Deir Ezzor Military Council (DMC):…

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OverTheHedge RedBaron616 Tue, 02/13/2018 - 13:17 Permalink

Umm, if you mean ISIS were just a random confluence of surprising, unconnected happenstance, we just had the memo release CONFIRMING that the US were entirely to blame, and actively supported and created the headchoppers.…

The memo I am talking about is a pdf download that I have, but for some reason can't get a link for(?!) from judicial watch: jd-vs-dod-and-state-14-812-dod-release-2015-04-10-final-version. I can email you the PDF, just can't get you  a link. Weird.

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Ignatius Tue, 02/13/2018 - 11:08 Permalink

How does one get "sucked into" a war one has started?

Does this ring true?  I got sucked into a bar fight after I sucker-punched the bouncer...

SoDamnMad Tue, 02/13/2018 - 11:13 Permalink

Lindsey Graham said the $38 billion in support we pledged Israel should be just a floor.

Let's see. We lost 55,000 in Viet Nam. Maybe that should be the floor for what we lose in the ME.

Now counting back to the USS Liberty, The Gulf War, Khobar Towers and the 2003 invasion of Iraq,

we have a long way to go.