While we await the latest details on the ongoing trade war between the US and China, currently focusing on escalating steel and aluminum tariffs and China's reciprocal response could be, the threat of a real war is looming.
Speaking to Congress, the navy admiral nominated to be the next US ambassador to Australia said that America must prepare for the possibility of war with China, and added that the US relies on Australia to help uphold the international rules-based system in the Asia-Pacific.
In an excoriating assessment of China’s increasingly muscular posture in the region - which some say is merely a response to similar, long-running posturing by the US in the region - Admiral Harry Harris said Beijing’s “intent is crystal clear” to dominate the South China Sea and that its military might could soon rival American power “across almost every domain" according to the Guardian.
Harris, who is set to retire as the head of US Pacific Command in Hawaii, told the House armed services committee that the US and its allies should be wary of Beijing’s military expansionism in the region, and condemned China’s foreign influence operations, predatory economic behaviour and coercion of regional neighbours.
"China’s intent is crystal clear. We ignore it at our peril. I’m concerned China will now work to undermine the international rules-based order."
At least he didn't accuse China of also hacking the US election: so far it's only Russia that gets to pick and choose the next US president.
Harris said he was alarmed by China’s construction of military bases on seven disputed islands in the South China Sea that neighbouring countries lay territorial claims to. In 2016, the permanent court of arbitration in The Hague, sided with the Philippines in the dispute it brought, saying there was no legal basis for China’s claim of historic sovereignty over waters within the so-called nine-dash line in the sea. Regardless, Chinese military build-up continues in the sea with Beijing refusing to comply with the Hague's ruling.
“China’s impressive military build-up could soon challenge the United States across almost every domain,” Harris said. Harris also warned of a “cult of personality” developing around Chinese president Xi Jinping.
But the key exchange was the following: responding to a question about the risk of conflict with China, Harris said “as far as the idea of deterrence and winning wars, I’m a military guy. And I think it’s important you must plan and resource to win a war at the same time you work to prevent it.”
“At the end of the day the ability to wage war is important or you become a paper tiger. I’m hopeful that it won’t come to a conflict with China, but we must all be prepared for that if it should come to that.”
In other words, the US should get prepared for war with China.
Harris praised Australia as one of America’s staunchest allies in the Asia-Pacific region, noting existing military cooperation at air force bases in the Northern Territory, joint naval exercises and the regular rotation of 1,500 marines through Darwin.
“Australia is one of the keys to a rules-based international order,” Harris said. “I look to my Australian counterparts for their assistance, I admire their leadership in the battlefield and in the corridors of power in the world. “They are a key ally of the United States and they have been with us in every major conflict since world war one.”
Should Harris be confirmed as the next ambassador to Australia, his hawkish position would present a challenge for Canberra, as it seeks to navigate an increasingly delicate diplomatic and economic relationship with Beijing.
Domestically, ties with China have been severely strained after a backlash against China’s perceived influence on and infiltration of Australia’s political system, highlighted by the resignation of Labor senator Sam Dastyari over accepting cash from Chinese businessmen for private debts and his position, at odds with his party, on the South China Sea. The Australian government has proposed new espionage laws and tightening of rules around foreign donations to political parties.
At the same time, China is Australia’s largest trading partner, but the US is its primary defense and security ally, and Australia has been a vocal defender of the US alliance network over issues such as the nuclear weapons ban treaty, which the US opposes.
The Australian prime minister, Malcolm Turnbull, who has previously met Harris in Hawaii, has publicly welcomed his nomination. “Great to see Admiral Harry Harris nominated by [Donald Trump] as US ambassador to Australia. Look forward to seeing you in Canberra, Harry,” Turnbull said on Twitter on February 10.
Turnbull will meet with Trump in Washington next week. It is not known when Harris’s confirmation hearing will take place.
Harris, the Yokosuka-born son of an American naval officer and a Japanese mother, has been nominated by President Donald Trump as the next ambassador to Australia. His appointment must be confirmed by the Senate.
Australia has been without a US ambassador since John Berry departed in September 2016.
Comments
So....the Navy wants to fight the Chinese and the Army wants to fight the Russians. Air Force???
Space aliens, wait and see...
In reply to So....the Navy wants to… by cossack55
I'll confess, I've enjoyed the Trumpette Show over the past year or so, but, at this point, I believe I've developed an allergy to popcorn. There was a time when this country could stand proudly despite some nagging issues. Now, it's not even close. We have become the laughing stock of the world. I would venture to say the rest of the world is also a little more than concerned considering the power we wield and the stability of the people we trust to handle that responsibility. For me, it's game over. Send the Orange One back to the circus from which he came. Disclaimer: I did not vote for Trump or for that matter, anyone else, for a long, long time. I don't see that changing anytime soon. I'd suggest you consider doing the same.
Signed,
Sufficiently Disgusted
<---Enough already. Uncle.
<---Trumps my hero no matter what he does or says
In reply to Space aliens, wait and see... by cheech_wizard
Translation
I am playing the game so don't forget my MIC post when I retire.
In reply to ggds by whatswhat1@yahoo.com
It's not like your paycheck (until death) depends on it or not does it? & wherefore the accrued benefits of your family & children & theirs? Right?
well, at least he'll get his Q118 account deposit from Raytheon & Northrop Grumman.
In reply to Translation… by JohninMK
International rules-based-order = do as I say (not as I do) or I will kill ya...
In reply to It's not like your paycheck … by DillyDilly
War. What is it good for? Absolutely nothing. Or, as highly-decorated US Marine Corps Major General Smedley Butler argued: WAR is a racket. It always has been. It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives. A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of the people. Only a small "inside" group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few, at the expense of the very many. Out of war a few people make huge fortunes… Out of war nations acquire additional territory, if they are victorious. They just take it. This newly acquired territory promptly is exploited by the few – the selfsame few who wrung dollars out of blood in the war. The general public shoulders the bill. And what is this bill? This bill renders a horrible accounting. Newly placed gravestones. Mangled bodies. Shattered minds. Broken hearts and homes. Economic instability. Depression and all its attendant miseries. Back-breaking taxation for generations and generations.
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In reply to International rules-based… by peddling-fiction
Reality Warns US Must Prepare For Absolute War With Iran To Please Apartheid Israhell
In reply to War. What is it good for?… by skbull44
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Moar War Porn Translation...
........We NEED a bigger MIC budget... Because...
............Admiral Says... I Want A Condo In Hawaii
.
Edgey
In reply to … by stizazz
Oh vey .... Iran and Syria must be finished off first ... don't forget (((we))) gotz yur balz in vice grips
In reply to . Comment In Progress by Sir Edge
Well let’s put Admiral Harris in one of our ships parked off the Chinese coast. He can lead his readiness charge from there.
In reply to Oh vey .... Iran and Syria… by CTacitus
with his entire offspring in the landing boats and ready to jump Shanghai
In reply to Well let’s put Admiral… by BigCumulusClouds
I'm very stupid. I do not understand why China can not play a key role in the South China Sea? Or is there a misprint in this text and it's about the South American Sea?
In reply to Oh vey .... Iran and Syria… by CTacitus
There were areas in the South China Sea which had not bee allocated to any country after WWII, when the Japs were kicked out of the whole area. (Okinawa was first under US occupation, then allocated to Japan - or the US would have had to fund the military presence there in full.)
Settling the various claims by various countries for bits of the South China Sea was postponed after WWII. You know 'mañana' and mañana never came. So after 70 years the Chinese took action.
Rules based order - my ar3e, Australians were never asked if they wanted to host and pay for US soldiers in Darwin.
This guy should have never been accredited as Ambassador.
In reply to I'm very stupid. I do not… by silvermail
"Rules based order". He must be referring to being a signatory to the International Criminal Court, being a signatory to the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS), and insistence upon obtaining an invitation from the host country or an authorising United Nations Resolution before deploying any military formations or undertaking offensive military action in another sovereign territory.
So I figure he must be advocating regime change in Washington.
In reply to There were areas in the… by uhland62
Of course, China can play the dominant role in the South China Sea! Is the US dominant in the Caribbean, the Gulf of Mexico, and the waters off the east and west coast of America. The boys in the Pentagon need to progress beyond 1945. The world has changed Admiral Harris. The Admiral may want to take note that all the appliances in his house are no longer made in the US, and many are made in China!
In reply to I'm very stupid. I do not… by silvermail
Must...protect...Petro$
In reply to . Comment In Progress by Sir Edge
If you want a war with China you best stop crashing ships. You won't have anything left to protect the carriers and a couple of them will REALLY cost you in lives and money. I don't think you could 3-D print one of those.
In reply to . Comment In Progress by Sir Edge
Translation: I want more big carriers to sail around in and look mighty.
In reply to … by stizazz
I'm going to make a prediction here:
The US is broke, everyone knows this. The Chinese government is even more broke. The Chinese rich, who are getting their wealth out of China, are dumping a lot of it into the USA, particularly in housing.
I would wager that the first casualty in any US-China war is going to be all of that expatriated Chinese wealth. Americans will love it because it was been associated with the uber-wealthy Chinese who are driving expensive cars in many college towns. The Chinese government might even look the other way as long as we let them get a cut of the action so it plays into Xi's "anti-corruption campaign."
Watch for this one, conflicts are always about money, and holding resources that guarantee future money.
In reply to Translation: I want more big… by Stuck on Zero
You mean like," All you money bewong to us."
In reply to I'm going to make a… by techpriest
The Chinese are building up their military strength to better defend themselves so we must start a war with them because they are clearly trying to prevent war!
Is that like Israel bombing Syria for retaliating against Israel for bombing Syria.
In reply to War. What is it good for?… by skbull44
War. What is it good for? Absolutely nothing.
War with China can be stopped easily. Just dissolve the US Government and become the "Separate States of America". What country would want to bomb, for example, the state of California?
In reply to War. What is it good for?… by skbull44
Exactly
"Harris said he was alarmed by China’s construction of military bases on seven disputed islands in the South China Sea that neighbouring countries lay territorial claims to. In 2016"
Is that like US bases in Syria? Last time I looked Syria lay claim to Syria.
In reply to International rules-based… by peddling-fiction
The Chinese threat is real and growing. A Chinese weakness is Taiwan. The US needs to work with Taiwan, because the Chinese are threatening invasion like never before. The invasion of Taiwan is a Chinese Communist Party political platform, in other words, if the Taiwan invasion failed, then the political ramifications during an economic crisis caused because of China losing 18% of it's global export market, the US market, would crack the CCP foundation.
All along China's border, China is on the move, military build up, roads and sea lanes. China plans to seize East India,and reduce India proper to a kill zone, with Pakistan as the overlord.
China is aggressively claiming territory by using military muscle. At the rate of engagement, we're in a window for war. Either a single war or a multiple war against India, Taiwan, South China Sea nations and Australia.
The US doesn't have the military power without a draft to handle the many wars. A China war in any region will set off the alarm, congress will vote for a national mobilization draft in the blink of an eye. I figure, four million troops abroad, and two million training here.
Eastern Europe Shield requirement one million troops, Middle East and Afghanistan with India-China-Pakistan war requirement one million, South China Sea, Australia invasion denial force, and other South China Sea nations defense requirement one million. A total defense would send four million draft troops abroad, and have two million ready and training. It'll be the greatest draft in history and my estimates are most likely underestimates.
WWIII is about to commence. If you're under thirty, you have a certain probability of being drafted. A full scale no holds barred global world war could require 20 million US troops. Your chances of being drafted are higher than at anytime of any draft in US history.
Bye, Bye.
In reply to Exactly… by hongdo
You really think the fat slob illiterates from the hood are going to let themselves be drafted? Nope, they’ll go to jail first. Instead it will be the ones who usually go: poor White trash, West Point officers, and recent immigrants.
In reply to The Chinese threat is real… by MK ULTRA Alpha
Ya the US needs to get Taiwan under its protective umbrella. Problem is the fifth column is prevalent in Taiwan and most of its citizens are more concerned with gossip about celebrities than an actual Chinese invasion. It's like they've fooled themselves into believing the status quo would last forever.
In reply to The Chinese threat is real… by MK ULTRA Alpha
Don't forget to draft the bitches, too.
In reply to The Chinese threat is real… by MK ULTRA Alpha
Don't forget to draft the misogyny fuckers, too.
In reply to Don't forget to draft the… by TheFederalistPapers
Any thinking person here in Australia knows who the real FUCKING aggressors are !!
The Admiral thinks everybody is a FUCKING imbecile !
I have said before - There was a time - long ago - that people believed EVERYTHING they heard on the radio !!!
In fact - It was dead FUCKING easy to start a war back then !!
Those days are long gone ADMIRAL !!
That is the REAL problem for the ‘ International Order ‘ ( aka ZWO ) !!
In reply to International rules-based… by peddling-fiction
It's the murderous warmongering jew supremacists as always clamoring for more & more wars !!
As the murderous jew supremacists love to say "we had a good day"
We the American People Demand that all Dual Citizen Israelis in all capacities (elected, employed or volunteer) be immediately removed from all our Federal, State & Local Governments- NOW !
We also Demand that All Jew Supremacist Foreign Agent Organizations In America be Prosecuted & Shut Down Immediately using the FARA ACT- NOW ! (A Short List: Aipac, Splc, Aclu, Zoa, Adl, Jwc, Jdl, Cfr,... etc...)
In reply to International rules-based… by peddling-fiction
I have a great MIC story to tell.
I was recently on a conference call with a MIC company and their intermediary that contracts with us to do component testing. During our testing, we found a problem with some of the components not functioning under certain test conditions. During the course of the conversation, the MIC company came straight out and said they had no idea why they even had their intermediary have us test the components in the first place.
Good thing we had our conference phone muted, because two of us burst out laughing.
In reply to It's not like your paycheck … by DillyDilly
Lemme guess... China was the client 😂😂😂
In reply to I have a great MIC story to… by cheech_wizard
CO/COTR would never sign off on failed tests. He would never get a job with them later if he queered their "performance bonus".
In reply to I have a great MIC story to… by cheech_wizard
Attention. Your post triggered one of our filters.
It was forwarded for further processing and tracking for potentially troublesome elements.
We will be reviewing all communications going forward.
In reply to Translation… by JohninMK
(I suspect "they" don't care for this post.)
In reply to Attention. Your post… by Bone-Machine
uncle?
In reply to (I suspect "they" don't care… by whatswhat1@yahoo.com
good plan
In reply to uncle? by Bone-Machine
OK. But I'm feeling nails on a chalkboard.
In reply to good plan by whatswhat1@yahoo.com
Edit. Sorry we are too lazy to follow the protocol. You can go back to whatever you were doing.
In reply to Attention. Your post… by Bone-Machine
Works for me.
In reply to Edit. Sorry we are too lazy… by hongdo
That's what I think. Give me my vacation house, I've been your puppet.
In reply to Translation… by JohninMK
Oh fuck. Again a bored military man looking for trouble.
Nicolas Cruz is certainly not the only nut job in the US.
Who is running this mental asylum?
In reply to ggds by whatswhat1@yahoo.com
“The Silk Road” to WWIII.
And. Merciful end to the Petro Dollar Swamp & Pure Evil War Criminal Treasonous Seditious Psychopaths at the CIA.
Jim Willie puts it so eloquently:
The rise of the non-USD platforms is very powerful and gaining enormous momentum. While the United States is busy igniting wars like in Ukraine, Syria, Djibouti, Yemen, with furtive efforts to engage armed conflict in more nations like Iran, North Korea, and the South China Sea, the Eastern Hemisphere has gone on strike with respect to the King Dollar Court and its not so hidden war of terror in the currency defense. Clearly the United States is using war to defend the USDollar. Today’s presidents are fully committed to predatory wars, fascist political structures, narcotics trafficking, currency pegs, banker privilege, and bond fraud.
The rebellion from the East will be coordinated, broadbased, and severe in its effect. The paper mache armor constructed by the fascist tag team of the USFed and USDept Treasury cannot stop a bullet, cannot avoid fire, and cannot serve in the financial war. The rise of non-USD platforms is the battle cry waged against the King Dollar, whose financial war takes place in the global seas of false liquidity poured out by the banker cabal and subservient central bank franchise system.
In reply to … by Troy Ounce
Don't ask!
In reply to … by Troy Ounce
(((them)))
In reply to … by Troy Ounce
The Chinese have one aircraft carrier. The US has twenty. Just another unnecessary bureaucrat trying to justify a promotion or thinking of landing a defense contracting job.
In reply to … by Troy Ounce
Laughing stock,no,you terrify us.
In reply to ggds by whatswhat1@yahoo.com
It's gotten so bad that when I'm overseas, I hesitate to identify myself as an American. Think about that.
In reply to Laughing stock,no,you… by khnum
Me too. I was working with Aussies all week and had to spend a week in DC with them. It is hard to talk to foreigners about US policies. The shooting was a blast too. I told them to watch for the news that the kid was doped up on SSRI drugs. Sure enough, they noticed that when I pointed it out.
In reply to It's gotten so bad that when… by whatswhat1@yahoo.com
Pagination