Russia Warns US To "Stop Playing With Fire" In Syria, Immediately Leave Area It Controls

Two weeks after a US B-52 strike killed scores of Russian mercenaries in Syria, which according to Bloomberg and Reuters were are as many as 200, while Russia said no more than 5 Russians were killed in the attack then promptly refused to discuss the embarrassing topic further, Moscow has clearly not forgotten this latest - and most serious - escalation in the 7-year-old proxy war, and on Monday Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov warned the Trump administration not to “play with fire” as he lashed out at the U.S. over what he described as its “provocative” support for autonomy-seeking Kurds in Syria, while urging US troops in the area of Al-Tanf to "leave immediately."

Speaking to a Moscow audience at the Valdai Club conference on the Middle East, Lavrov said that US troops must immediately cease operations in the Southern Syria area of Al-Tanf, adding that he once again calls "on our American colleagues not to play with fire and measure their steps proceeding not from immediate needs of today’s political environment, but rather from long-term interests of the Syrian people and of all peoples of this region, including the Kurds, of course," the Russian top diplomat was quoted as saying by TASS News Agency.

Lavrov was referring to an area on Syria’s border with Jordan and Iraq, which the US declared to be under its protection last year. Among other things, it contains the Rukban refugee camp. The facility is apparently used by radical militants, including members of UN-designated terrorist group best known by its former name Al-Nusra Front, to recover and raid other parts of Syria, Lavrov said at the Valdai Club conference on the Middle East in Moscow, alongside his Iranian counterpart Mohammad Javad Zarif and a top adviser of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad. The US is turning a blind eye to such abuses of its protection, he added.

“Inside the Al-Tanf zone, which the Americans unilaterally declared under their protection, and inside the refugee camp jihadists are regularly reported to recover strength. On several occasions they conducted raids from there into other territory of the Syrian Arab Republic. This zone must be shut down immediately,” the Russian minister said.

He added Russia has mounting evidence that the US has no intention to oppose this jihadist group in earnest.

His response came after a question from the think tank International Crisis Group about what “Russia could do more” in Syria to prevent an escalation of violence there, particularly between Iran and Israel. Lavrov said the question should be “what the US could refrain from doing” in Syria and that the answer was “stop playing dangerous games” and cease trying to partition the nation "which could lead to the dismemberment of the Syrian state" and added that Russia is "seeing attempts to exploit the Kurds’ aspirations."

The Americans “in the territories they patronize east of the Euphrates River and all the way to the state border with Iraq create governing bodies which are designed by intention to have no links with Damascus,” he pointed out.

Lavrov also commented on the situation in the southwestern part of Syria on the border with Jordan and Israel – which was designated as a “de-escalation zone” by Syria, Russia, Turkey and Iran – and Israel’s interests in Syria. Israel accuses Iran of using proxy forces to seize control of parts of southern Syria, including those along the border, and has threatened to use military force to reverse the situation.

“We negotiated the creation of this zone with Jordan and the US and it’s not a secret that our Israeli colleagues were informed about what we discussed,” he said. “Now to implement everything we had agreed on we have to focus on one particular article, which said all parties to the agreement would work to make sure that no non-Syrian forces were present inside and near this de-escalation zone.”

Lavrov's comments take place as the U.S. is setting up a 30,000-strong Kurdish-led border protection force in the northeast of Syria, which Assad’s backers Russia and Iran have condemned as an attempt to carve out an American zone of influence.

Zarif for his part said Iran is concerned about a “new wave” of foreign intervention in Syria led by the U.S. after the defeat of Islamic State. Quoted by Bloomberg, he accused the U.S. of trying to capture Syrian territory by making use of proxies.

Meanwhile, for the past month has been is pursuing an offensive against Kurdish fighters in northwest Syria - a military operation whose name "Operation Olive Branch" pretty much wins 2018 in the irony category. Also this month, Israel launched its biggest strikes in Syria since the 1982 Lebanon war after one of its warplanes was shot down in the wake of the destruction of an apparent Iranian spy drone inside Israeli territory.

Israel’s prepared to act “not just against Iran’s proxies that are attacking us, but against Iran itself,” Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu warned Sunday at the Munich Security Conference.

On Monday, Lavrov dismissed Western criticism of Iran’s role and demands for a pullout of Iranian troops and military advisers, saying they’ve been invited by the government in Damascus, something which no US troops in the region can claim. Iran chimed in too, saying that the Syrian government has a “right to self-defense” and Israel should stop its “acts of aggression,” while Turkey has no right to intervene in Syria, Zarif said.

The dispute between Israel and Iran, Lavrov said, certainly complicated the situation in Syria, and Moscow believes both parties need to take steps to defuse it according to RT. For instance, Iran’s statements that Israel was a Zionist entity that needs to be destroyed are perceived as absolutely unacceptable in Russia. But neither does Russia see as constructive Israel’s policy of turning every problem in the region into a vehicle for opposing Iran, he said.

“This is what we see in Syria, this is what we see in Yemen, and even the latest developments around the Palestinian issue, including Washington’s decision to recognize Jerusalem as Israel’s exclusive capital, are to a large extent caused by the very same anti-Iranian bias,” Lavrov explained. “Both attitudes pose a risk of further damaging the situation in the region, which is already very pitiful.”

The Russian minister suggested that Israel and Iran should try to address their differences – including the latest flare-up involving an Iranian drone destroyed by Israel after reportedly violating the airspace of the Jewish state – by taking them to the UN for proper resolution.

“Otherwise we will be rolling down the slope to a situation in which every incident is simply blamed on the other party and used to justify military action.”

Finally, in the most bizarre twist yet, earlier we reported that Russia-backed Syrian army forces have agreed to help the US-backed Syrian Kurds fight troops belonging to NATO member Turkey, and who "may enter the border town of Afrin within hours," according to the official SANA news agency. Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu said the plan won’t derail the offensive.

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Slack Jack Adullam Mon, 02/19/2018 - 16:35 Permalink

There are no ancient Jewish cities in Israel,...
but there are lots of ancient Greek cities.

What is weird is this; that 2000 years ago, it seems that there were no people even resembling Jews, in Israel.

It turns out that there is not a single ancient Jewish city in what is now called Israel. There is not a single ancient city where Hebrew characters are used on the statues and buildings. There is not a single ancient city where the buildings are in the ancient Jewish architectural style. In fact, there is not even a category of "ancient Jewish architectural style".

Of course, the Hebrew characters that are desired, are those of the Dead Sea scrolls (supposedly from 2000 years ago), which are essentially the modern Hebrew characters without points.

If you check out all the ancient cities in Israel from 2000 years ago, they are all Greek, and their ruins are still there for you to visit. Their inscriptions are in the Greek script and the buildings are in the ancient Greek architectural styles.

Here is a list of some of the known ancient Greek cities in (and near) Israel; Ecdippa, Seleucia, Ptolemais, Taricheia Arbela, Asochis, Sepphoris, Hippos, Dion, Sycaminum, Bucolon Polis, Itabyrium, Gadara, Abila, Dora, Comus, Gephrus, Crocodilion Polis, Caesarea, Straton's Tower, Narbata, Scythopolis, Pella, Samaria, Amathus, Ragaba, Gerasa, Apollonia, Sicima, Pegae, Joppa, Arimathea, Jamnia, Port of Jamnia, Lydda, Modiin, Aphaerema, Philadelphia, Birtha, Gazara, Beth Horon, Dok, Jericho, Samaga, Esbus, Medaba, Ladder of Tyre, Azotus, Port of Azotus, Accaron, Jerusalem, Ascalon, Anthedon, Gaza, Marissa, Beth Zur, Hebron, Adora, Engeddi.

The ancient Jewish cities in Israel are,....... well there aren't any. Not even one.

Here's an interesting example of a first century BC Greek inscription (i.e., in Greek letters) from Jerusalem's Temple Mount forbidding the entry of strangers to the Temple precinct.

http://www.preearth.net/images/no-foreigner-shall-enter.jpg

The pictured stone was found in 1935. It was actually the second such warning-stone to be found, the first being discovered by Charles Simon Clermont-Ganneau in 1871. It was deemed so dangerous to the "Jews inhabited Israel 2000 years ago" theory, that it completely disappeared for 13 years before resurfacing in Istanbul, where, it was correctly calculated, it would not attract much attention.

From: https://www.timesofisrael.com/ancient-temple-mount-warning-stone-is-clo…

The first Jerusalem Temple Mount warning-stone, now found in the Archaeology Museum, Istanbul, is pictured below:

http://preearth.net/images/jerusalem-temple-warning-at-istanbul.jpg

It says (in Greek): "No stranger is to enter within the balustrade round the temple and enclosure. Whoever is caught will be responsible to himself for his death, which will ensue."

Slack Jack's CHALLENGE:

Name ONE ancient city (that existed in what is now called Israel) where the building inscriptions are all in Hebrew, and the buildings are constructed in the ancient Hebrew architectural style (whatever that may be).

Then give a summary of "the ancient Hebrew architectural style" (you will have to make this up as it does not yet exist).

Then give links to photos of the ancient building inscriptions which show that they are written in Hebrew.

Then show that the buildings are constructed in the ancient Hebrew architectural style (that you have just invented).

http://www.preearth.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1175

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Slack Jack Slack Jack Mon, 02/19/2018 - 16:35 Permalink

The Dead Sea scrolls Hoax.

The Dead Sea scrolls are a mixture of old documents that were hidden in a number of caves to be miraculously found and used to support the establishment of Israel, a country intended for Jews only.

The main document "finds" were in 1946 and 1947 in caves near the tiny ancient settlement of Qumran.

Israel was created in 1948.

The Dead Sea scrolls are the only really old (well supposedly really old) documents, in the Hebrew characters, that have ever been found. No other really old documents in the Hebrew characters have ever been found.

All other documents in Hebrew characters date from later than 800 AD.

Previous to the "finds", critics had pointed out the late date of all documents in Hebrew characters, and deduced that the Hebrew Old Testament must have been translated from the Greek Old Testament and not the other way round.

Then, low and behold,... a very timely miracle occurs.

The Dead Sea scrolls are "found" and dated to hundreds of years earlier than the oldest previously known documents in Hebrew characters.

Then, it is widely claimed that all the scrolls were produced and hidden in the Qumran caves before 70 AD (the supposed time of the mythical sack of Jerusalem by the Romans).

The critics are not given access to the scrolls nor even photographs of the text, lest they spoil the party.

In fact, for decades, only seven scholars are given access to the scrolls.

This goes on till certain critics are dead and the scrolls have been purged of all anachronisms (like Arabic numerals).

Then, in 1991, only 45 years after their "discovery", the Huntington Library, in San Marino, California, without consent, makes facsimile copies of the scrolls available to all.

So that, in brief, is the Dead Sea scrolls Hoax.

More, however, can be deduced....

One can even guess where the Dead Sea documents came from.

It turns out that some of the Dead Sea documents, for example, the "Damascus Document," are nearly identical to documents from the Genizah collection of the Ben Ezra Synagogue in Cairo, Egypt. So, it is likely that many of the Dead Sea scrolls had their source there.

Worldwide, there are ten manuscripts of the "Damascus Document" from the Dead Sea scrolls and two from the Cairo Genizah. This strange distribution is a result of the fraud. The "Damascus Document" was first published in 1910 by Solomon Schechter in "Fragments of a Zadokite Work."

The Ben Ezra Synagogue was established around 900 AD.

Now, the Arabs have ruled Egypt since they defeated the Greek armies around 635 AD.

Now, the synagogue (and its Jews) existed happily, undisturbed, in Cairo, in the midst of the Islamic world.

So, maybe the original Jews were a group of Arabs.

This would explain why Hebrew and Arabic are nearly identical languages.

This would explain why the Hebrew and Islamic religious traditions are very similar.

And, it would also explain why Jews turned up in Spain with the Arabs (Moors).

Another couple of points:

It should also be noted that a few Jewish scholars (in particular, Solomon Zeitlin) have long insisted that the Dead Sea scrolls were a Medieval production. [Zeitlin was a well-known Talmudic scholar and would not claim this unless convinced it was true.]

Internal evidence from the scrolls themselves indicates a Medieval production. See, here.

And, the fact that many scrolls are written on vellum (90% of them) proves these are indeed a Medieval production.

It is estimated that 20 people occupied the site of Qumran (estimated by the number of inhabitants for whom there was room in the buildings). Now these 20 people were not just ordinary people, they read and wrote Greek, Phoenician, Aramaic, Nabataean, and Hebrew documents, like natives, and managed to write learned works on numerous religious topics (about 900 manuscripts were "recovered"; about six hundred separate works), while gathering enough water, and raising enough food, for their survival, in a desert.

Some have tried to claim that as many as 200 lived at Qumran, but most have considered that number ridiculously high.

Anyway, I think it is clear that the Dead Sea scrolls are a bunch of old documents that have been thrown together and sold to a gullible world.

http://www.preearth.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1176

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LiteBeeer Wahooo Mon, 02/19/2018 - 22:26 Permalink

Slack Jack, as you continue copy&paste this crap, i'll respond with excerpts of truth backed by historic facts and dates:

Jesus was the sinless Lamb of God. The apostles and others saw Him returning from the dead with His glorified new body. The Romans and the Jewish religious leadership tried desperately to shut up people testifying what they saw and what miracles Jesus had performed. They tortured and killed the apostles by beheading, burning in oil, upside-down crucifixion, etc. Yet they would not deny what they saw.

Romans persecuted Christians for 300 years until emperor Constantine was raised by God to protect them by moving out of pagan Rome to modern day Istanbul, that is Constantinople in year 330 AD. Western Rome fell in year 476 AD. Papacy was it's successor and existed from 538-1798 AD exactly 1260 years, as prophesied in the bible. The Papacy invented islam in year 610 AD by commissioning the wealthy 40 year old catholic widow Kadijah to rear an arabic false prophet to lead an army to conquer Jerusalem for the Pope. It backfired. Islam kept Jerusalem for themselves. Until 1967 when Israel took it back in the 6-day-war.

Christian Byzantine existed for more than 1100 years until 1453 AD, defeated by islamic Ottoman. Ottomans were defeated by Christian west in 1922.

Another bible prophecy was fulfilled:

Mohammad's death in June 8th 632 AD until 1922 to Ottoman's end was exactly 1290 years. Moreover, Mohammad's death to 6-day-war in 7th June 1967 where Jerusalem was reclaimed from islamic occupation makes 1335 years, to the exact day (8th June v.s. 7th June). This is a perfect match for Daniel 12:11-12 prophecy.

Daniel 12:11-12  "From the time that the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination that causes desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days. Blessed is the one who waits for and reaches the end of the 1,335 days."

Mohammad established islam by uniting 360 idols in Mecca under the biggest idol allah, the deity of his qureish tribe. Islamic creed is renouncing your old smaller god and uniting under the biggest allah, or else you get your head severed. Idols in mecca, one for each day. The daily sacrifice is abolished by Mohammad and there is now only one deity. After his death, islam shoots off conquering in the name of allah, that is called jihad. They conquered Jerusalem and built al-Aqsa (705 AD) and Dome of rock (691 AD) on the former Roman fortress. They converted Persians in 650 AD and the Turks from 750-1050 AD by the sword. Killing the man and raping the woman and girls and training the boys as soldiers for the caliphate. Until the biggest islamic empire the Ottomans were defeated in 1922 and the caliphate was abolished in 1924 by Ataturk.

Thus Israel is God's strategy where the man Jacob not only represents the physical Jews, but also the land Israel.

Byzantines fall brought enlightenment and blessing into pagan Europe. This is the western civilization, that is Christian values.

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Baron von Bud Slack Jack Mon, 02/19/2018 - 17:31 Permalink

I was at a Jewish funeral a few months ago and asked the rabbi about the Hebrew script I saw in a prayer booklet. He said Hebrew was derived from Aramaic and so probably is Arabic. I watch the Ancient Aliens TV show every Friday on the History Channel after several large tokes of my green bounty. According to expert Giorgio Tsoukalos, some of these ancient sites are well over 10,000 years old. The Great Flood wiped most everybody out. Anyway, that's way before Arabs and Israelis. They're of the same racial stock but got screwed up by religion. Maybe the aliens will come back and fix things up.

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Conscious Reviver Baron von Bud Mon, 02/19/2018 - 21:39 Permalink

The Gospels were written in Greek. Not Aramaic, not Hebrew. They did not appear until after 73 AD. Even though they called the Gospels, the Gospel according to Mathew, Mark, Luke or John, every scholar acknowledges they were not written by any of the disciples who were most likely dead by the time the Gospels appeared 40 years after Jesus was said to have been killed.

So Christians, Bible scholars, who wrote the Gospels? Any ideas? 

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Slack Jack are we there yet Mon, 02/19/2018 - 17:22 Permalink

Even Jesus was not a Jew.

Matthew 16:18 "And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter (Petros = Πετρος), and upon this rock (petros = πετρος) I will build my church;"

The Greek word Πετρος (Peter) also means rock.

This play on words only makes sense in Greek. So the speaker must have been speaking Greek.

And Christ is a Greek name, just like Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, and Jesus, are Greek names.

And why did Paul write his gospel to the Hebrews in Greek?

Paul was meant to be a Jew and the Hebrews were meant to be Jews. So why write in Greek?

So, clearly Jesus, Paul and the Hebrews were Greek.

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Conscious Reviver Mr Hankey Mon, 02/19/2018 - 21:52 Permalink

The Romans crucified 500 Jews a day, every day during the Roman seige of Jerusalem in 70AD, according to the Jewish scribe and former Zealot leader, Josephus Flavius. The crucified Jews were used to decorate the Roman ramparts that the Romans had built by enslaved Jews to encircle the beseiged city, in full view of the starving inhabitants inside the city.

The Romans were some seriously nasty mofos.

Btw, isn't Josephus Flavius kind of a funny name for a Jewish leader of the radical Jewish sect known as the Zealots?

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MarsInScorpio Slack Jack Mon, 02/19/2018 - 17:24 Permalink

Slack Jackoff:

I've seen your same shit G-d knows how many times, but figured your inbred ignorance is beyond retort.

But I'm killing some time so though I'd drop a short reply to your horseshit.

Greek appears because it was the common language throughout the Roman Empire at the point in history.

Hebrew was reserved for highly educated Jews, primarily of a religious orientation.  Latin was also a niche language in that area, spoken, and understood almost exclusively by citizens of the Empire. Aramaic was the common language of that area, however, it was primarily understood by those living in that area.

Therefore, if you are posting something with the highest degree of being understood, you used Greek . . . Dumbass.

Additionally, the Temple, which would have been adorned with Hebrew characters In recognition of its religious utility, was destroyed by the Romans following the Jewish revolt in AD 170 against them.

That's all I have time for now.

Suffice it to say you are ignorant ass who exploits the ignorance of others with all your posts.

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Slack Jack MarsInScorpio Mon, 02/19/2018 - 17:47 Permalink

So, Aramaic was the common language of the area that is now Israel???

This is simply not true.

Slack Jack's CHALLENGE for MarsInScorpio:

Name ONE ancient city (that existed in what is now called Israel) where the building inscriptions are all in Aramaic, and the buildings are constructed in the ancient Aramaic architectural style.

Give a summary of "the ancient Aramaic architectural style" because it is not clear what this is.

Then give links to photos of the ancient building inscriptions which show that they are written in Aramaic.

Then show that the buildings are constructed in the ancient Aramaic architectural style (that you have just described).

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Conscious Reviver MarsInScorpio Mon, 02/19/2018 - 22:19 Permalink

MarsianInScorpio how does it make you look when you go off on a rant, repeatedly calling someone inbred and ignorant when in fact your post is full of demonstratively, ignorant, false assertions?

Greek was not the common language of the Empire. It was common in parts of the Empire that included Palestine. Gaul and Spain which were large parts of the Empire, had few Greek speakers.

Next you say - "Aramaic was the common language of that area, however, it was primarily understood by those living in that area." Isn't that redundant? As in "Aramaic was the common language of that area, however, it was the common language of the area"?

Next - "Therefore, if you are posting something with the highest degree of being understood, you used Greek . . . Dumbass." But you just asserted that Aramaic was the common language in the area. To be understood, why wouldn't someone write in Aramaic?

Then - "Additionally, the Temple, ... was destroyed by the Romans following the Jewish revolt in AD 170." Here, you are off by a century. The temple was destroyed in 70AD and how do you know what it was adorned with?

So, suffice it to say, when you point your finger at someone, calling them an "ignorant ass", and your stuff is all messed up, you have three fingers pointing back at you, showing you who the real and true ignorant dumbass is.

One more thing. Re. Hebrew - It appears that the oldest known example of written Hebrew is the Tanakh, the Jewish Bible. It seems that the earliest appearance of the Tanakh was around 73AD!! Isn't that a bit startling? As in recent? And why 73AD? What was going on in Palestine in 73AD?

There was no Hebrew when Moses got the 10 Commandments. What language were the 10 Commandments written in?

 

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Snaffew Slack Jack Mon, 02/19/2018 - 18:03 Permalink

ughh...why people are fighting over the rights to deteriorating mudstone buildings and arid land is beyond me.  The entire region is a shithole of brown and beige monotone landscapes, buildings and religious zealots.  Cut all aid and support to anyone in the region...let them destroy each other and then never go back---People in these regions are just crazy and they always fabricate a mandate to justify whatever inane desires they want.  Israel is a hellhole in a region of bombed out shit.

 

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All Risk No Reward stizazz Mon, 02/19/2018 - 16:26 Permalink

Actually, it is the Money Power masters of both Rothschildville (the functional name of what you refer to as Israel) and the United States government that is orchestrating the installation of their most sophisticated military weapon - a debt-money, societal enslaving central bank.

Blaming the debt-money helot ordinary Jews in Israel only provides cover and misdirects the minds of your readers away from the **root cause** Money Power.

Is that your intent?

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HRClinton stizazz Mon, 02/19/2018 - 19:53 Permalink

Re "Israhell demands that its American slave stay in Syria."

I'll bite. If the quote below (from your link) is true...

"Jews are NOT the chosen Hebrews with whom God had the Old Covenant – all Hebrews are irrevocably dead."

...then logic dictates that their tribal deity (Yahweh) is also dead. Or, more accurately, Yahweh was concocted by scamming priests and rabbis (in service to their tribal war lords). And if Yahweh is fake/dead, then so is everything built on that mythical foundation, dear Buybull thumpers and sister/cousin-wife humpers.

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Arnold zorba THE GREEK Mon, 02/19/2018 - 16:20 Permalink

I agree.
I try to look through the fog.
My opinion remains the same.
There are several New Caliphates in competition.
Turkish, Iranian(not Persian), and the failed ISIL.
Possibly several more beneath the interwebs radar.

Most argue that Mohammed is not the true Prophet, despite the over whelming numbers that believe that he is.

The Qur'an proficises the coming of the Mah'di , that will unite all Islam.
All want be under his benevolent graces, some want to be in charge.

Infidels, oil, territory, and secular worldly problems are distractions.

Of course the path to 'Nirvana' is twisted, if the road was easy, the reward would be small.

Finally, Hezbollah should be eliminated from the face of this world.

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All Risk No Reward Arnold Mon, 02/19/2018 - 16:30 Permalink

The Money Power finances the vast majority of "Islamic" terrorism in the West.

The Money Power opened the borders of the West.

The Money Power made sure radical elements, instead of women and children, flooded into the West.

The Money Power turned Libya over to al Qaeda so they could run slave auctions in the street (and their fake media is silent on the atrocity of it all).  Remember when disgruntled al Qaeda meant Gaddafi was a "brutal dictator?"  Apparently al Qaeda is so nice and sweet in comparison.  Not!

The Money Power is the real threat.

The Muppets in the West that run interference for the Money Power are the real threat...

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Arnold All Risk No Reward Mon, 02/19/2018 - 16:43 Permalink

What you list is accurate, as far as it goes.
The hole you view the world through is too small.

Let's look back at the Christian Crusades in a couple of sentences.

The Second sons, in some of the more successful ones, were sent to win fortune, if not fame.
None were expected to return, few did, and fewer still were successful after return, in the Medieval ETO.

The Second Sons are the Islamic warriors of today.
Good at conquest, lousy in the politics.

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All Risk No Reward Arnold Tue, 02/20/2018 - 00:42 Permalink

Yes, let's look at the Crusades.

1. In the 4th Crusade, the Christians took out two Christian cities because they were in debt.  Mammon was more important than God to the 4th Crusaders.

2. What happened to the assets of the 2nd sons?  Perhaps they were manipulated, just as the oligarchs have manipulated ordinary people for thousands of years.

But you know all that given how much wider your view is than mine, right?

Again, the quality of fighter is irrelevant if the Money Power doesn't finance him into your country.  The whole point is to comprehend the Big Bad, not focus attention on "2nd sons" and away from the Big Bad root cause.

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MK ULTRA Alpha cstu7011 Mon, 02/19/2018 - 16:34 Permalink

It's a "hard on". Dumb ass. The only one who has lost big is Russia, they're deeply bogged down, didn't get the global weapons sales after showing off Russian hardware in Syria, therefore no way to off set Syria war cost. Each year Russia has been in Syria, the defense budget had to be cut because Syria is chewing up the Russian defense budget. It's down to around $50 billion this year.

Official Russian news reports indicate many military modernization and expansion projects have been cancelled, why? because Russia doesn't have the capital(money) to invest in defense modernization because of the costs of the Syria war.

The US is not going anywhere, if anything, there will be more examples of Russia trying to force the US out and more Russians will be killed. The Russian Syria war contribution is now a fiscal and a political liability.

It's funny, the Russians thought they would kill some Americans and this would look bad for Trump and force the US out because of US domestic politics, it was the other way around and at least 200 Russians were killed and Russia tries to hide it.

After this Russian low life move, I wouldn't give the Russians the time of day, if anything, I would begin targeting Russians in Syria, so Russia's public opinion can protest the Russian involvement in Syria.

It's time to kill Russians in Syria. And it's funny how in the USA, after 8 years we got rid of Obama, and in Russia, Putin has been in power for 25 years. We call that a dictator in most halls of higher learning.

 

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MK ULTRA Alpha Arnold Mon, 02/19/2018 - 17:27 Permalink

It's real funny I posted last night that there were a lot of anti-American foreigners on here, I have been running surveys for many weeks now.

So last night I made the statement it was 50 50 on the number of US based posters and foreign posters, it was funny when an American doubted any foreigners were on the board, next thing I know, a number of foreigners posted they were in fact foreigners and tried to explain their anti-Americanism.

The anti-American movement grew in the communist defeatist blame America for everything Obama era. When the MSM and the president of your country goes all over the world bad mouthing your country and the MSM mantra is destroy the USA, well, if that's the data being dumped into your minds, then I understand ignoring China's militarization, ignore the nations close to China are preparing for war with China, and now we can ignore the 200 Russian mercenaries killed trying to kill Americans, it was known the Americans were there, so the attempted murder of Americans to use as a way to make Trump look bad.

The Russian plan to sour American public opinion didn't work even with paid trolls and the small delusional crowd of ZH anti-American foreigners. We have Russians trolls saying no Russians died, they are willing to lie to themselves and others for their mental illness anti-American obsession. It's sick and delusional.

Half the posters are foreign anti-Americans who write the most delusional uninformed comments. Many of them are mentally ill because of the USA. LOL

AMERICA FIRST

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