Russian "Troll Farm" Indictment Shredded By Journalist Who First Profiled It In 2015

Following Special Counsel Robert Mueller's indictment of 13 Russian nationals and three entities behind a Russian "troll farm" said to have meddled in the 2016 U.S. election (admittedly, with zero impact), two people familiar with both the ads purchased by Russians on Facebook, and the "troll farm" in question have refuted Mueller's narrative over the course of four days. Indeed, things don't seem to be going well for the Russia investigation, which started out with serious claims of Collusion between the Trump campaign and the Kremlin, and has been reduced to CNN diving through the garbage of a Russian troll farm.

About that troll farm...

Adrian Chen, staff writer for The New Yorker - who first profiled the indicted Russian troll farm in 2015, sat down with MSNBC's Chris Hayes, where he proceeded to deflate Mueller's big scary indictment to nothing.

"Tried to tamp down the troll farm panic on @chrislhayes show last night," Adrian Chen tweeted. "It's 90 people with a shaky grasp of English and a rudimentary understanding of U.S. politics shitposting on Facebook."

Watch: 

Chen then responded to a tweet saying the IRA has 300-400 individuals. "That was the entire Internet Research Agency," Chen wrote." The American department had ~90 people, according to the Russian journalists who did the most in-depth investigation."

Chen links to a Washington Post article which profiles Russian journalists who also investigated said troll farm.

A brief review:

  • The former director of the FBI has assembled a "dream team" of investigators for his Special Counsel probe and concluded that 13 Russians and 3 entities tried to meddle in the election after an entire year of investigation.
  • Those efforts had zero impact on the election
  • Facebook's VP of ads is on record saying "I have seen all of the Russian ads and I can say very definitively that swaying the election was *NOT* the main goal
  • The same FB Exec noted that most of the ads were purchased after the election.
  • Suggesting that the real, underlying narrative is one of US media propaganda, he was then made to walk back his comments and apologize for his "uncleared thoughts
  • CNN is rooting around in the trash outside the troll farm.

And for all of this, Obama and Congress slapped sanctions on Russia, evicted two diplomatic compounds, and launched several Congressional investigations over.

But at least the US Military Industrial Complex is happy, while the stock of Boeing has never been higher.

Comments

Dilluminati manofthenorth Wed, 02/21/2018 - 07:06 Permalink

 I was listening to the FCC chairman speaking at the state of the internet

http://bgr.com/2017/11/30/net-neutrality-fcc-comments-bots-analysis/

and

http://thehill.com/policy/technology/361509-ny-ag-probing-massive-schem…

And the person went on to say that public comment or the "legislative process" was broken because of trolls

http://www.cetusnews.com/life/Millions-of-People-Post-Comments-on-Feder…

Interestingly enough:

“Astroturf lobbying”—typically when an interest group gins up support from individuals and characterizes it as a grass-roots movement—has been around Washington for decades."

This is now the rationale behind all these sensational headlines, this has been around since the 70's! and now the democrats have taken this, added some McCarthy, and gone off the reservation with a non-objective media.   The real problem is the media.

The corporate media which is supposed to in theory or fable be a referee on truth is now done, instead they are corporate stooges.  

The United States has descended into arguing the outcomes of elections and questioning the legitimacy of a sitting POTUS and the reason why?  Was because the MSM is still but-hurt that they failed to pinch hit their message on Hillary and Brexit.  

Intellectually you have to be next to fucking stupid to not see the kings of "astroturf" using that as an excuse an irony and an argument only apropos for the dumbest of cocksuckers, the intellectually most vulnerable.  

It took the democrats and the media who suffered the most humiliating loss of credibility publicly and before the media in all of media history to sink to the lows that they have.  And when the next POTUS takes office this is what they created!

Just google election night meltdown and what you saw was the whining of a MSM who didn't pinch hit.. a MSM who didn't pinch hit for BREXIT, and Obama telling britian: heh you better not vote for Brexit or you get in the back of the fucking bus.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZx0vJgJ-VU

This is as bad as Russian Ballerinas dancing and Hollywood for Ugly people has never been worse.. meanwhile UGLY democrats keep floating actual hollywood candidates..

fucking astonishing to watch objectively..

But what cocksuckers and poor losers and these same people have set the stage, expectations, and narratives for the next election which will get uglier..

But the media and their epic suffering of credibility it does not end.  It is now suggested to flip elections and legislation.. "due to the trolls" or astroturfing and that is the oldest trick in the book and what the MSM (fake news) has done for decades..

Remember it was Obama who went to britan and in an election said what he said.. no wonder the Christoper Steel cunts meddled.. or who really is behind the hollywood for ugly folks anyhow?

 

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venturen manofthenorth Wed, 02/21/2018 - 07:55 Permalink

compare 

VOA is headquartered in Washington, DC and overseen by the Broadcasting Board of Governors (BBG), an independent agency of the U.S. government.[5] Funds are appropriated annually by Congress under the budget for embassies and consulates. In 2016, VOA broadcast an estimated 1,800 hours of radio and TV programming each week to approximately 236.6 million people worldwide with about 1,050 employees and a taxpayer-funded annual budget of US$218.5 million.

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AlaricBalth American Psycho Tue, 02/20/2018 - 23:22 Permalink

Our "troll farm" is better funded than theirs...

The United States, through a Non-Governmental Organization (NGO) called The National Endowment for Democracy has spent over $27,000,000 since 2013 in Russia to “promote democracy”.

The National Endowment for Democracy (NED) is a U.S. non-profit soft power organization that was founded in 1983 with the stated goal of promoting democracy abroad. It is funded primarily through an annual allocation from the U.S. Congress in the form of a grant awarded through the United States Information Agency (USIA).

NED was banned in Russia as an undesirable international NGO in for "using Russian commercial and noncommercial organizations under its control... to declare the results of election campaigns illegitimate, organize political actions intended to influence decisions made by the authorities, and discredit service in Russia’s armed forces.

Former Congressman Ron Paul also argued against NED funding stating that NED has "very little to do with democracy. It is an organization that uses US tax money to actually subvert democracy, by showering funding on favored political parties or movements overseas. It underwrites color-coded ‘people’s revolutions’ overseas that look more like pages out of Lenin’s writings on stealing power than genuine indigenous democratic movements."

Investigative reporter and editor of Consortiumnews Robert Parry has characterized NED as a "neocon slush fund," whose founding was the brainchild of Reagan Administration CIA Director William Casey and its leading propagandist Walter Raymond Jr., then on the staff of the National Security Council. The idea was to set up an organization funded by the U.S. Congress to take over CIA programs that attempted to influence foreign elections by promoting the selection of candidates who supported U.S. policy and would "do what the U.S. government tells them to do.

See screen grab of chart here from USAID showing NED spending in Russia:   https://imgur.com/DuQwJZW

https://explorer.usaid.gov/query?country_name=Russia&fiscal_year=2016&t…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Endowment_for_Democracy

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/28/national-endowment-for-de…

Interference in elections

NED’s Statement of Principles and Objectives, adopted in 1984, asserts that “No Endowment funds may be used to finance the campaigns of candidates for public office.” But the ways to circumvent the spirit of such a prohibition are not difficult to come up with; as with American elections, there’s “hard money” and there’s “soft money”.

As described in the “Elections” and “Interventions” chapters, NED successfully manipulated elections in Nicaragua in 1990 and Mongolia in 1996; helped to overthrow democratically elected governments in Bulgaria in 1990 and Albania in 1991 and 1992; and worked to defeat the candidate for prime minister of Slovakia in 2002 who was out of favor in Washington. And from 1999 to 2004, NED heavily funded members of the opposition to President Hugo Chavez in Venezuela to subvert his rule and to support a referendum to unseat him.

Additionally, in the 1990s and afterward, NED supported a coalition of groups in Haiti known as the Democratic Convergence, who were united in their opposition to Jean-Bertrand Aristide and his progressive ideology, while he was in and out of the office of the president. 

The Endowment has made its weight felt in the electoral-political process in numerous other countries.

https://williamblum.org/chapters/rogue-state/trojan-horse-the-national-…

The United States has continued democracy programs despite local prohibitions.

Nevertheless, USAID and the NED have continued to fund organizations, even where that’s against the local country’s laws. In Venezuela, for example, the United States has openly continued funding civil society organizations, even listing that in its annual budgets, albeit without naming recipients.

USAID and the NED are undoubtedly keeping their plans in the country secret. However, the NED and its leaders continue to openly counter Russian ideological efforts throughout Eurasia. For instance, when NED President Carl Gershman testified before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in June 2016, he said that one of the NED’s five main focuses includes pushing back against “an information offensive by Russia and other authoritarian regimes.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/03/20/putin-is-…

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Troy Ounce AlaricBalth Wed, 02/21/2018 - 01:03 Permalink

 

As this whole fucking nonsense is a credibility and information war, there is one guy who, imo, can stop this bloody "Russia Russia Russia" political hysteria:

           Matt Drudge.

Drudgereport should post these embarrasing stories continuously  for 2 weeks or so as a headline.

That will teach Mueller et all.

The internet will take down the narratives of the Deep State.

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Max Cynical AlaricBalth Wed, 02/21/2018 - 01:10 Permalink

Here's another...makes me wonder how many millions we're spending to "promote democracy" or should I say destabilize foreign governments.

US secretly created 'Cuban Twitter' to stir unrest and undermine government.

USAid started ZunZuneo, a social network built on texts, in hope it could be used to organize 'smart mobs' to trigger Cuban spring.

In July 2010, Joe McSpedon, a US government official, flew to Barcelona to put the final touches on a secret plan to build a social media project aimed at undermining Cuba's communist government.
 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/03/us-cuban-twitter-zunzuneo-stir-unrest

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MK ULTRA Alpha whosyerdaddy Tue, 02/20/2018 - 23:23 Permalink

The Russians had one of their deep cover agents within friend length of Clinton. That's right, the Russian deep cover mole service was outed after they had been here over twenty years. One was so close to Clinton, the top inner circle, the Russians knew every move Clinton made.

Then the Clinton email server, the Russians and just about everyone else was hacking into the state departments operations.

It's incredible, while the Clinton Foundation was being paid off in the hundreds of millions. It's incredible I am writing this, it is the most treason, fraud, and corruption in my life time.

A note, the Russian deep mole service was accidentally intercepted by US counter intelligence. The accident was when the Russian mole next to Clinton made a mistake in communication to Moscow. Go look it up, it became a plot for a television series. Clinton even rushed the Russian agents out of the country before the usual long debrief by US intelligence, after the Russian moles were covered up, then it was Clinton cashing in on Uranium One.

I would say, the Russians are actively involved in espionage and manipulation at the highest levels. And I can say that about the UK and Israel are main players and many lesser players countries, but no country, not even the Chinese bribes of the Clinton's in the 90's, comes close to what Russia has accomplished. This is why, Russian intelligence has always won incredible decisive intelligence coups all through history and the UK and Mossad spies would come second to Russia.

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MoreFreedom MK ULTRA Alpha Tue, 02/20/2018 - 23:41 Permalink

I think Putin's hackers did get Hillary's emails, including the 20 with Obama using an alias and which he lied about claiming he learned of her server in news reports. Then he blackmailed them into appeasement and flexibility; in Iran, Syria, Libya and of course the uranium sale.   Clinton's server was poorly protected, because her IT guy wasn't a security specialist and she didn't want a lot of people to know about it (just the ones she emailed).   It explains why they had to cover it up, and why they both so desperately want Trump impeached, so they can keep it covered up.  Would Obama corrupt the executive branch, and want to know everything about the email and Trump investigations, for Hillary's benefit?  I don't think so.  It explains the 20 visits of the Russian ambassador to Obama's White House, and just about everything else.  Look for the photos of Putin whispering in Clinton's ear, then her freaking out and Putin laughing. 

I think for the country's sake, we should assume this is true.  After all,  the evidence on her servers has been erased, that would clear her if it weren't true.   And Comey's original memo stated her server was likely hacked by hostile actors.  The circumstantial evidence is overwhelming, and no one in politics or the media has even dared even mention the possibility.

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MK ULTRA Alpha MoreFreedom Wed, 02/21/2018 - 00:08 Permalink

Putin is a KGB Dictator who as president of Russia conducted KGB operations for over 25 years. He's been in power for around 25 years. In most halls of higher learning that's the definition of a dictator.

The Russians have no plausible denial in the Wagner mercenary action in Syria in which some Russian Trolls and media are saying no Russian mercenaries were killed and wounded, then Russian doctors treating the wounded and the Russian wounded stories are coming out of local Russian media. The next Russian denial is the Russian Troll manipulation and the owner of the Russian Troll farm is Putin's buddy, the Wagner group owner. Both of these events unmask Russian operations against the US.

 

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land_of_the_few MoreFreedom Wed, 02/21/2018 - 02:50 Permalink

Don't sweat it, you are replying to a Slavic grammar troll farm operative in some nasty frozen failed state shithole who copies and pastes screeds given to him by his supervisors. He repeats nonsensically as you can see, because he can't write English properly. Ask him a question.

Check his posts yesterday, mostly done in EET Eastern Europe time zone. 

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MK ULTRA Alpha Bay of Pigs Wed, 02/21/2018 - 00:19 Permalink

I'm just posting my opinion.  You missed some news, the Russian deep mole story can be researched.

What country are you posting from, what's your nationality and age?

Enough posters have come forward when asked, for me to say, half of the anti-American posters are foreigners posting all the way from their country.

Isn't it sick, some of these anti-American foreigners are on here everyday or every other day with their hate America rant, usually a delusional sound bite one or two sentence hate message. It's sick they would use their time in their country to post the most delusional comments about their hate for Americans.

And many openly admitted they were in fact foreigners who are anti-American and when asked named their country and gave the reason for their anti-Americanism. I would say half of this board is anti-American foreigners coming here to take a dump on Americans being led by paid trolls.

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MK ULTRA Alpha Bay of Pigs Wed, 02/21/2018 - 00:50 Permalink

I'm just posting my opinion. Does my opinion disturb you so much it warrants the personal attacks? I give the personal attacks back and I think that's what you're really here for. 

Why didn't you look up the Russian deep mole next to Clinton story? It's because you must turn everything around to justify your anti-American hate rant. It's the hate rant isn't it?, that's all you know, a few lines of hate and that's all you want.

Lets face it, you fit the pattern of a victim loser coming here to whine about being a victim loser.  Again, my opinion threatens you and it isn't keeping with the hate America you come for, does everyone have to be a depressed victim loser like you.

That's what you're doing, you come here to pull everyone down to your level of being a sad victim loser, it's America, that's the reason why I'm a loser victim, right? That's exactly what you're all about.

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Expat MK ULTRA Alpha Wed, 02/21/2018 - 04:36 Permalink

Fuck you.  The American posters here are as rabidly xenophobic as the very worst of the so-called foreigners.  And when you it's criticism it is suddenly trolls.  And when you criticize anyone else it is your right to have an opinion. So , I am calling you out on being a narrow-minded, hypocritical douchebag.  Now, that is your right. As it is my right to tell you what I think of you.

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MK ULTRA Alpha dietrolldietroll Tue, 02/20/2018 - 23:09 Permalink

LOL they didn't need to speak English, they used a meme mantra list and wrote the same thing over and over again. One of the meme mantra comments was used on ZH around three weeks ago. Go read the list of meme repeated over and over by an army of trolls.

It had an impact on the election. And it was far more than 90 Russian Trolls, this was only one of the companies owned by Wagner mercenary group. It's all leads to Putin's buddy, Wagner owner who also owns one of the Troll farms.

Plus, ZH doesn't post the most interesting part of the Mueller indictment (everyone else is covering it but ZeroHedge) uncovering Putins buddy, the Wagner mercenary group owner who owned the troll farm. Why is ZH not reporting about it?

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keep the basta… MK ULTRA Alpha Wed, 02/21/2018 - 04:39 Permalink

Look what difference does or did it make? 

Uk put up ads last year for another 1500 internet trolls, USA has a couple of NGOs  in Russia spending huge money, if it's spent in Russia likely adds to the economy.

 Key thing for mueller he took along long time got well paid and the discovery stops there. Pleased everyone. 

presumably that's good for the USA as he's a good USA citizen.

As an American patriot you accept this and shut the fuck up.

stop whining.    Your govt has done its job. 

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BobEore Bay of Pigs Wed, 02/21/2018 - 00:28 Permalink

As usual Jefe...

you are dropping your cigar ashes on the one guy who is giving you the straight goods on this thread. (Whats with the "Anonymous" reference anyways... r u goin go into your Names/Avatars Fetish thing agin?)

Now then... take a deeeeeeeeeeeeeeep breath, let it out... relax. That's the lad. Here we are... in a land of NO PARTISAN reflections... just collection - of facts. No red. No blue. No good team/bad team.

He's talking about the FACT that the St Petes 'caterer' and good buddy of the POTRR is indeed also the o/o of PMC Wagner///currently starring in an action thriller production in eastern Syria.

And although MKU is a lil rough round the edges for some of the snowflakes here... he's good for a few nuggets which will help all those of HONEST INTEREST in cutting through the smoke n mirrors generated from ALL SIDES/

Here's a secret for ya. "Russiagate" is fake news. So is 90% of all the rest of the news. It's ALL designed to cover up what's really going on.

So give the man a Habernero ... and reflect a bit. When you ready... DOWN the rabbit hole we go!

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land_of_the_few BobEore Wed, 02/21/2018 - 06:12 Permalink

¡Hola, Bobushka!

people say carrot juice might be good for your "condition", you should try it?

Do you miss the long runs on the golden sands? But those children can be sooo mean - they might even tweak your Ass. The Humanity!

Do you still have the hat with the holes? You have trouble getting the correct size, right? Don't let them just cram it onto your head, it will sit funny.

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BobEore Bay of Pigs Wed, 02/21/2018 - 00:48 Permalink

Nooooooooo.... none of above.

One of the key pillars and sacred tropes of the "Never Truth" Troop here...

is that there ARE NO RUSSIAN SOLDIERS IN SYRIA. SO ... THEY CANNOT DIE! That is the strand of the psyop which I choose to follow... but all the strands are part of the big ball of bullshit which

fake medias of all partisan stripes weave to keep everyone off balance. Likes I said... you have to shift data from every direction... to get a balanced BIG PICTURE perspective... then everything fits

together

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