White House Considering Confiscating Guns From "Dangerous People"

President Trump confirmed on Friday that he would support stricter firearms regulations, including a proposal to strengthen the federal background check system and raising the minimum age for buying a semi-automatic weapon to 21 - something the powerful National Rifle Association has said it opposes.

Trump also reiterated his support for training members of school staffs to carry concealed weapons:

“A teacher would have shot the hell out of him before he knew what happened,”

But, as Bloomberg reports, The White House is considering the idea of using restraining orders to take firearms away from people considered "dangerous" as part of its response to last week’s massacre at a Florida high school, two people familiar with the matter said.

Under extreme risk protection orders, which are also known as red flag laws or gun violence restraining orders, firearms can be confiscated from people found to be at risk.

As The New Yorks Times reports, it is difficult to measure the effectiveness of red flag laws, in part because it is impossible to count mass shootings, or other tragedies, that were avoided.

That said, the authorities in states with the laws, including Connecticut, Indiana, Oregon and Washington, say they have seen patterns: upticks in the use of such laws after mass shootings in other places.

The measures were also used in situations far different from the mass shooting scenarios they were originally conceived to prevent. Most often, guns were removed from people not seen as threats to large groups or public gatherings, but as risks to themselves or to their families, or suffering from debilitating illnesses such as Alzheimer’s or alcoholism.

Bloomberg confirms that The White House is studying an Indiana version of the law, and is considering other measures as well, according to the people, who requested anonymity to discuss policy deliberations. Four other states also have such laws.

At the White House on Thursday, Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi described to President Donald Trump similar efforts underway in her state to allow law enforcement to seize firearms from someone who is deemed to be a danger to themselves or others.

"Good," Trump responded.

Which raises yet another troubling question for the many law-abiding citizens of America - who defines "dangerous"?

What happens if - just as The IRS did - Tea-Party followers were deemed dangerous by the government?

What if someone retweeted (accidentally as a 'useful idiot') an anarchy-inducing Russian bot's propaganda? Would they be dangerous, too?

Or if someone openly threatened - or called for - the death of the president? Sounds like a danger to some?

EverytownResearch claims that Red Flag Laws have robust due process protections.

Final orders - which generally last for up to one year—can only be issued after notice and an opportunity to be heard. At the hearing, the person would have the chance to respond to evidence that they are too dangerous to have a gun.

A temporary order - which typically lasts 14 to 21 days—can be issued before a full hearing is held, but only if there’s clear evidence that an order is necessary to prevent immediate danger.

“It’s fair to say that everyone, law enforcement included, is learning how this law might work — in the process of using it,” said Garen Wintemute, a professor of emergency medicine and director of the Violence Prevention Research Program at the Sacramento campus of the University of California, Davis.

Finally, what should we do with "dangerous" people who also have these 'weapons'?

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Theosebes Goodfellow 1.21 jigawatts Sat, 02/24/2018 - 13:13 Permalink

Screw that. How about sentencing the cop who fails to act, (like in Broward County), when they instead cowered and then resigned when outed?

The problem everyone should be shouting about isn't firearms. It's police inaction and mental health inaction. All the laws you pass against law-abiding citizens being able to be armed do not make you safer but the opposite. The problem also are gun-free zones.

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Sir Edge Croesus Sat, 02/24/2018 - 15:31 Permalink

 

(((Bloomberg))) reports...

(((NYT Times))) reports...

(((EveryTown))) reports... 

(((EveryTown))) was created by (((Micheal Bloomberg)))... and other Mayors Against Illegal Guns
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everytown_for_Gun_Safety

(((Scott Israel))) in Broward County Florida... Also for years railed against Americans owning guns... 

Why is the Israeli tribe so intent upon Americans NOT having guns when in Israel guns ARE supported for citizens and other non LEO in Israel for handling situations like Florida shooting.

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/21714

 
Edgey...

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338 Not Goldman Sachs Sun, 02/25/2018 - 07:13 Permalink

Your ability to completely shred the Queen's English into a mumbling bumbling fucktard of a question is pretty much the best I've seen yet.

 

But for shits and giggles I'll take the sub-par IQ bait your threw.

 

Because someone is speeding, why do you, oh Prince of Enhanced knowledge, immediately assume you are going to be killed.

 

Are you really that special, in 8.7 million lane miles of pavement inside this collection of states, you think one person speeding down the road makes you the new Jesus Christ Superstar of the entire world and you are killed.

 

That my friend, is a special kind of logic.  I thank you from the bottom of my heart for your contribution to humanity.

 

I hope you have lots of kids to spread this message about.

 

 

Sean

 

 

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whatswhat1@yahoo.com Secret Weapon Sat, 02/24/2018 - 21:00 Permalink

Sure, Asian women haven't improved their driving skill very much since the 1970's when they were driving large American shit boxes because they were afraid to drive a Jap car.  It was a period in time when the Jap manufacturers were killing the U.S. manufactures on gas mileage, price and quality. 

The most deadly drivers are white women raging on hormones.  I can't remember the last time I say a guy pulled over by the cops.  It's always the homicidal, suicidal white bitches doing 95 in a 55 zone, intentionally running red lights, never stopping at stop signs, driving into on coming traffic to avoid intersection congestion and blocking traffic while they make a u-turn on a busy road.  I could go on and on about it but I'll close with two words: woman's liberation.  The day the music stopped.

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Drop-Hammer Sir Edge Sat, 02/24/2018 - 17:24 Permalink

I have read that the kikes never want another 'Holohoax' (it was real in their minds), so the best way to do that is to disarm the only people, white people, who have ever protected their treacherous/lying/deceptive/deceitful/subversive asses.

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Last Man Standing Sir Edge Sat, 02/24/2018 - 18:00 Permalink

"(((EveryTown))) was created by (((Micheal Bloomberg)))... and other Mayors Against Illegal Guns" You made a mistake Everytown's Michael Bloomberg (the little dictator with the Napoleon syndrome) wants to take away all guns, not just illegal ones. Bloomberg used to fly to his Bermuda Island getaway on weekends while mayor of NYC, probably still does, with two armed NYC cops, no one in Bermuda is armed privately but Mike Bloomberg bribed enough people to be allowed to have armed people in Bermuda. Bloomberg and his bought and paid for politicians don't want anyone but themselves armed. Bloomberg is a dictator-like scumbag who doesn't give a damn about anyone but himself, is daughter and her horse. Bloomberg is a huge Hypocrite.

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greven40 Croesus Sat, 02/24/2018 - 18:54 Permalink

It's the fact that the people don't refuse to follow unconstitutional laws that they exist.  The Law of the Land isn't going to crawl out of the museum and start defending our rights.  It's just an old, long-breached document at this point.

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hound dog vigilante Croesus Sun, 02/25/2018 - 14:23 Permalink

 

that's fine, because gun confiscation is really about keeping guns out of the hands of criminals... because, obviously, criminals will comply with the rules & give up their arsenals... so good folk like you & I have nothing to worry about...!

 

of course, politicians and their security details are exempt from such regulations - just as they are exempt from ALL meaningful legislation: tax law, RICO, financial regs, health insurance mandates... name it... if it's unpopular/extortion, then congress/feds are exempt. look it up.

 

 

want to change things, Mr. President?  want to MAGA?  

force congress to draft&pass legislation that removes all fed/congressional exemptions from the laws they pass & have passed.  when the deep state & staffers have to follow the rules they've drafted, things will change so fast you'll get whiplash sitting still...

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MK ULTRA Alpha Sudden Debt Sat, 02/24/2018 - 21:33 Permalink

This kid and most of the kids doing mass shootings have been on medication or is on medication, but no one asks, does the medication have something to do with the mass shootings? simple question this country won't ask, because it is the Jew plan to damage our brains to lower our IQ.

It's been proven, the chemicals called medication cause a loss of brain tissue. This lowers the IQ, there is over 50 million Americans convinced they're crazy and need to have their IQ lowered, That's 17% of the population believing in Jew mind dope. How many countries have 17% of their population convinced they're crazy either being forced to take or convinced to take Jew mind dope to damage their brains.

There is no hope. The only way out is to destroy the country. It's the only way to escape the Jews.

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Offthebeach IH8OBAMA Sat, 02/24/2018 - 17:56 Permalink

( Sometime in the near future ) 

..." The Court having  reviewd expert, professional Social Pathologist testimony , based upon accepted standard violence models, coupled with NSA/Google retrieval of the defendants online posts that ranked high on the Rodham Clinton New Man scale, hereby orders.....precrime...not less than 8 years.  "

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Chupacabra-322 Handful of Dust Sat, 02/24/2018 - 14:17 Permalink

When you Indict, Arrest, Enprison, Convict & Execute the following Pure Evil War Criminal Treasonous Seditious Psychopaths at Large then perhaps the American People will consider any attempt at Gun Confiscation an Act of War.

 

Bush Senior +Bill & Hillary Clinton + Bush Jr. (Cheany Handler) + Obama = CIA

 

That’s 30 years of Infiltration at all Levels of every Intel, Law Enforcement Agencies, DOJ & virtually every Level of Government, NGO & Front Companies by the aforementioned Pure Evil War Criminal Treasonous Seditious Psychopaths at the CIA since they Executed Kenndedy.

 

FUCK YOU! 

 

And, your Tyrannical Lawlessness!!!

 

Last time I checked.

 

We, the Republic owes absolutely NO alegence to any of the three Crimes Familes I mentioned or the Pure Evil War Criminal Treasonous Seditious Psychopaths at the CIA.

 

Eliminate the Familes & the House of Cards Collapse.

 

 

”Let Justice Prevail or the Heavens Fall.”

 

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