Questions Emerge Over Florida Shooter's "Full Metal Garb"

Just as we saw with the massacre in Las Vegas, a number of questions and inconsistencies have arisen following the Parkland High School shooting.

As Intellhub's Shepard Ambellas reports, Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School teacher Stacy Lippel was grazed by a hot bullet which left the chamber of the shooter’s gun as she closed the door to her classroom after letting a number of students file into what would presumably be safety. However, nothing could have prepared the teacher for what she was to witness next.

“I suddenly saw the shooter about twenty feet in front of me standing at the end of the hallway actively shooting down the hallway, just a barrage of bullets, and I’m staring at him thinking why are the police here,this is strange because he’s in full metal garb, helmet, face mask, bulletproof armor, shooting this rifle that I’ve never seen before,Lippel told Good Morning America last Wednesday.

The brave teacher said she told fellow Stoneman Douglas H.S. teacher Scott Beigel, 35, to get back in his room just before the shooter fired a number of rounds into his room killing him and other students. Lippel said the shooter fired four to five rounds into her classroom which shattered the classroom door window before the heavily-claded assassin continued his diabolic shooting spree down the hallway.

“I never really knew when he left because we all thought he was still here,” she said.

Two of Lippel’s students were fatally wounded in the attack.

Police maintain the suspect Nikolas Cruz arrived via an Uber ride at 2:19 p.m. and initiated his attack within 1 minute. If true, that would mean that Cruz would have had to suit up into full metal body armor, put on a full helmet and the whole nine yards, all the while assembling an AR-15 rifle which was purportedly packed into a duffel bag with a number of fully-loaded magazines.

An affidavit filed by the Broward County Sheriff states: “Cruz stated that he was the gunman who entered the school campus armed with an AR-15 and began shooting students that he saw in the hallways and on the school grounds. Cruz stated that he brought additional loaded magazines to the school campus and kept them hidden in a backpack until he got on campus to begin his assault.”

An NBC News report gives the official timeline of events:

Within barely two minutes of being dropped off, Cruz started firing into four classrooms in Building 12, returning to two of them to shoot again, Israel said.

Cruz then went upstairs to the second floor, where he shot one of his victims, before proceeding to the third floor, where he ditched his rifle and backpack, Israel said.

He then ran down the stairs and outside, where he blended in with hundreds of terrified students — many of them his former classmates — and eluded officers as he left campus, Israel said.

Amid the chaos he’d left behind at the school, Cruz made his way to a Walmart store, bought a drink at its Subway restaurant and walked away again, Israel said.

Such a scenario seems not only entirely unlikely but almost impossible.

How does the purported shooter exit his Uber ride, put on full body dress, helmet, assemble his rifle, load it and start firing at targets within two minutes?

While that interview raises a few questions, it is not unusual for witness recollections to be wildly different from one another.

However, as The Chicago Tribune reported, one of the students was wearing a bulletproof vest given to him by his policeman father:

In the classroom where Mackenzie Hill had been hiding, police broke through the door. As the officers were guiding students out, they noticed something odd: One of the students had put on a bulletproof vest.

The student said he'd been given the vest by his father, a police officer.

Even in the safest city in Florida, he'd brought it to school with him, just in case.

Finally, as one commentator notes, one of the pictures from The Sun article shows the alleged shooter holding a gun looks like it has an orange tip...

Certainly plenty of questions remain unanswered.  As Intellihub's Shaprd Ambellas concludes...

... prosecutors have already offered Cruz a deal to spare his life in exchange for his plead of guilt. However, if school cameras, video footage, and other hard evidence reveals that Cruz was, in fact, the shooter, why would there be a need for Cruz to plead guilty? Wouldn’t the case be cut and dry?


Sir Edge ParkAveFlasher Mon, 02/26/2018 - 11:24 Permalink


Like i said... and other brilliant ZHedgers said too...

Its Getting More Obvious By The Day... It's Coming Apart...  

The Lies.. The False Flags... The Fake News... The MIC War Porn...


Is Going to Get More and More Obvious Until EVEN the Twinkles can see the OBVIOUS clearly thru their purple tinted glasses...

This is only a warm up... Stay Tuned... It's Coming Apart !


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IH8OBAMA Creepy Lurker Mon, 02/26/2018 - 12:00 Permalink

I think that IS a toy gun in the pic they keep showing.  But, it wouldn't be hard to make an orange (red?) barrel insert to make a real gun look like it is a toy.  Then just pull the insert out before you start shooting.  Mass killers generally aren't that smart, though.

However, putting An AR together takes two seconds.  It's just two pins you can push in with your thumb to put the upper and lower back together.  It's not a big deal.  Then you just slap in a magazine and either hit the bolt release or pull the charger back and release it if it isn't already charged and it's ready to go.

He probably told the Uber driver that his black garb and helmet was for a Valentines Day costume party.

UPDATE:  I don't understand all of the down votes, but whatever.  I LOVE down votes!!!!  That means I'm making your think.

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N0TME eforce Mon, 02/26/2018 - 21:52 Permalink

The Chicago Tribune article that the link in the UpwardPost and the truthinourtime websites, probably where you are getting that statement doesn't say anything about a student wearing a bullet proof vest given to him by his father. Maybe that statement was edited out I don't know, but it's not there.…… 

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I reckon so Stan522 Mon, 02/26/2018 - 13:47 Permalink

See, here again is what is not thought of........... those deputies didn't hide. They were "in on what was happening." They were not allowed to enter, lest they see what the teacher saw, and risk an exponentially bigger fiasco by possibly having to confront someone other than the ALLEGED shooter. (Funny how all references no longer use the word "alleged." As far as I know, he has not been convicted of a damn thing yet.) Much "easier" to take the heat for "hiding." This whole thing is another push for gun control. How can anyone not see this?

Oh, and again, no video? And conveniently, the school officer was outside when this started?

Fuck NBC, CNN, and all the rest of the government's parrots.

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DeadFred I reckon so Mon, 02/26/2018 - 16:59 Permalink

They finally released the autopsy report that doesn't fit with the shooter's known physical attributes so yo have to credit them for their transparency. All those surveillance videos are another question. I'm sure they'll release them with the tapes of their cell phone intercepts from their plane that circled the area for seven hours after the shooting. I'm almost positive.

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Justin Case I reckon so Mon, 02/26/2018 - 15:28 Permalink

A number of witnesses of Las Vegas Mandalay Bay shootings had tragic accidents shortly after. There is footage of shots fired out of a helicopter and another CCTV showing shots fired from the roof top of the hotel. There were also flashes from another window of the hotel.

It's getting harder to pull these off with the cell phone cameras. The Boston bombing was also set up and the footage of one victim being wheeled away from the scene twice on CCTV and others jumping out of ambulances already injured. Real Hollywood stuff.

One Girl was photographed at the Boston attack and then same girl again in Paris shooting.  

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Give Me Some Truth Liberal Mon, 02/26/2018 - 13:55 Permalink

I'm all for not automatically believing everything the government says, but when 100 pieces of evidence say "this is a duck" and only one or two pieces say it isn't (and this "evidence" is questionable or explainable), I can conclude that, "yes, we probably have a duck here."

Why is it so hard to believe that in America there are any number of crazy, sick, angry people who would, in fact, decide that they were going to, say, shoot up a school (or an office, or a movie theater)? My guess is that most people who have such sick fantasies never carry them out. But a handful do. In fact, the more people who carry out these sick fantasies and the more media attention these events get, the more likely we will have similar "copy cat" events in the future.

I've satirically written the scenario of the FBI hard at work right now planning the next ultra-elaborate school or concert shooting. To me, just thinking about the mindframe of willing participants and all the details that must be involved pretty much proves such an undertaking is preposterous, something that would be believed by only the most gullible.

Now, I guarantee you that right now somewhere in America some sicko is planning on conducting a similar event. This is not hard to imagine.

Still, millions of Americans choose to believe a preposterous version of events and dismiss the most obvious.

The people who actually know this Cruz don't seem to be surprised at all he did this. These people think he did it. The idea that the CIA framed this poor Patsy is laughable to these people. But believed by 95 percent of ZH readers (who I can only assume would also have voted to acquit OJ).

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Nameshavebeenc… Give Me Some Truth Mon, 02/26/2018 - 14:17 Permalink

There's a simple answer to this-

All you have have to do is answer these questions:

Why do these 'lone nuts' keep showing up when there is a police/military/secret service drill happening? 

Why is there always a police/military/secret service drill happening when these events take place (incl 911)?

Why do they always know the name of the 'lone nut' or 'conspirators' (er I mean patsies) within minutes of the event?

Why do the initial eyewitness reports and cell videos always conflict with the MSM narrative?

Why does the media/left wing get all in a tizzy when people raise questions about the conflicts, or any other inconsistencies?

Why are the numbers of 'mass shootings' happening at rates well beyond statistical improbabilities?

Why are some events (such as Las Vegas and Pulse nightclub) being discovered/predicted in advance by folks on the web?

Why does the MSM keep getting caught in lies, for over 5 decades now?

Why do the Federal gov't(CIA/FBI/Military/Secret Service) keep getting exposed for malfeasance and also for their roles in past events?


I'll go make some popcorn while you answer these.....


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Give Me Some Truth Nameshavebeenc… Mon, 02/26/2018 - 14:26 Permalink

You write why do these events "always" happen when some kind of secret service/police drill is taking place? They don't? Was there such a drill in Vegas? Just because some kind of emergency drill took place on the same day of a crime doesn't automatically mean the two evens are related. You pick one piece of "evidence" like a drill being scheduled and ignore 100 other pieces of evidence that Cruz did it by himself.

Do you think Cruz is innocent?  Why was he at that school that day? Or do you think he wasn't even there? 

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Nameshavebeenc… Give Me Some Truth Mon, 02/26/2018 - 15:10 Permalink

Yes, there was a 'drill' in Vegas & it was well publicized. It was taking place in the same area as the concert. Same as at many of the other 'shooting events'.

You have no evidence that Cruz did anything that day other than being present at the school. Several students saw him, or were talking to him when the shooting started. He was unarmed at the time and seemed confused about what was happening. 

Here's another question- Why is there never any surveillance footage released showing the 'patsies' in action, or carrying weapons, or doing anything else that would tie them to the shooting?
The last footage I saw of a couple of shooters in action was Columbine & that happened 19 years ago & I have reason to believe those 2 boys were probably genuine. Pretty much everthing else since then has fallen apart under scrutiny.

Schools, bars, casinos etc. all have lots and lots of cameras. Let's see the footage; (Vegas, San Bernardino, Orlando, Sandy Hoax, Parkland, etc.......). Nothing has been released in all these 'shootings', because it doesn't exist.


Now, hurry up and start answering all these questions. Popcorn is almost ready!

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daveO Nameshavebeenc… Mon, 02/26/2018 - 15:25 Permalink

"The last footage I saw of a couple of shooters in action was Columbine & that was 19 years ago & I have reason to believe those 2 boys were genuine. Pretty much everything else since then has fallen apart under scrutiny."
Winner, winner chicken dinner!
Each one of these events are used to advance the agenda. Las Vegas and this event are being used to grab bump stocks(Trump is giving up the ghost!) since they can't get the whole gun. I guarantee there will be more attacks to justify taking one weapon at a time.
The last time was 1994. It was Diane Feinstein's baby.

No video = phony.

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DosZap daveO Mon, 02/26/2018 - 18:42 Permalink

And they had an agreement that if the murder rate with these weapons did not go down/up, change, the law would NOT be reinstated.

The law was repealed,until Vegas(FBI has/had control of this WHY are we still 99% in the dark on this?, WHERE are the two ladies that were eyewitnesses that stated flat out there was at least two shooters maybe three?.,AR/AK clones were used in less than 1/10th of 1% of all shootings.

Of course the baby shit pants DemoNcrats went wild, (they do not keep deals).

It stayed the same,or nearly ZERO change.

Less than 3% of all shootings are done with rifles,less than 400 homicides a year with ALL long guns, three of the worst mass shooters are children of first gen foreigners.(not to mention bombs)

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Pure Evil DosZap Mon, 02/26/2018 - 20:15 Permalink

Ritalin is a synthetic form of methamphetamine. Mix that with testosterone in young males and bam! Especially at an age where testosterone is increasing in young male bodies due to puberty and sexual maturation along with the fact that these young males do not have the emotional experience to handle the surge in testosterone.

Anyone that thinks testosterone doesn't cause aggression in young males than please explain why young males play contact sports like football while girls don't. And it doesn't have anything to do with culture.

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DosZap Grandad Grumps Mon, 02/26/2018 - 18:30 Permalink

What she came face to face with was a SWAT officer.She's still alive correct?, that means it wasn't Cruz,I am still wondering WHY this mental case as not on the NO WEAPONS list.(how the Hades did he get past a NICS check?.)

 Sheriff's dept and LE MAKE 39 trips(in 7yrs)to his home, he had held firearms to himself, and other family members HEADS  several times prior, yet HE was NOT arrested nor taking involuntarily for a MENTAL eval.

Either way, HE was guilty of multiple felonies, and SHOULD have never  been able to purchase ANY kind of firearm, IF the std protocols were followed, WHY weren't they?.

Also, NO ONE WORD have I heard or read about his 17yr old brother that WAS ALREADY IN a mental ward pput there INVOLUNTARILY, again, why not?.

See any familial pattern here?.

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Aerows DosZap Wed, 02/28/2018 - 13:51 Permalink

He could have and SHOULD have been Baker acted in several situations.  Do you honestly think if you threatened a LEO, you wouldn't be Baker Acted so fast your head would spin, if you weren't just put in jail immediately?

How do you have such a complete and total breakdown of the situation? They made the excuse that they couldn't do it once he turned 18, and that is bullshit. Besides, he could have been easily committed before age 18.  Still, people get committed all the time involuntarily if there is a pattern of violent behavior.

39 times?  FBI warned twice? Several students AND teachers reported his behavior and absolutely nothing was done?  Expelled for violence and trying to sell knives to fellow students? 

At the VERY LEAST if a student is expelled for violence and selling weapons, they should be Baker Acted and their medication evaluated and/or adjusted. 

Nothing about this makes any sense. 

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Justin Case Give Me Some Truth Mon, 02/26/2018 - 15:36 Permalink

Conspiracy theories

I think the label first became widely used to slander people who questioned the details surrounding the JFK assassination, and forty years later, there aren't too many thinking people who still believe the Warren Commission's "lone gunman" explanation. That explanation is doubted by everyone who has taken the time to look into the details, and believed only by people who refuse to.
Which is "theory" and which is fact? In the absence of a full confession, this can only be decided by a preponderance of evidence, and it would be silly to come to a conclusion on any matter without looking at all the evidence available. This is only common sense, just as it is safe to assume some degree of guilt or complicity on the part of anyone who lies about an event, or tries to hide, plant, or destroy any type of evidence.
Conspiracy theories arise from evidence. After the government releases an explanation of a particular event, a conspiracy theory is only born because evidence exists to disprove their explanation, or at least call it into question. There's nothing insane about it, unless you define sanity as believing whatever the government tells you. In light of the fact that our government lies to us regularly, I would define believing everything they tell you as utter stupidity.

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Clashfan Give Me Some Truth Mon, 02/26/2018 - 15:51 Permalink

Maybe some pig in full regalia shot up the place. Maybe he was shooting blanks.

Where's the blood? The holes in the walls? The spent rounds? The tapes?

Where's the freaking evidence, man?

Maybe the patsy didn't fire a shot. One witness says she was speaking to him while shots were being fired. Is that evidence?

Whole thing stinks as usual. You can't see that? Too busy peeing on nuns with Lennon?

Imagine there's no truth from the media or government.

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