Contradictions In Seth Rich Murder Continue To Challenge Hacking Narrative

As rumors swirl that Special Counsel Robert Mueller is preparing a case against Russians who are alleged to have hacked Democrats during the 2016 election - a conclusion based solely on the analysis of cybersecurity firm Crowdstrike, a Friday op-ed in the Washington Times by retired U.S. Navy admiral James A. Lyons, Jr. asks a simple, yet monumentally significant question: Why haven't Congressional Investigators or Special Counsel Robert Mueller addressed the murder of DNC staffer Seth Rich - who multiple people have claimed was Wikileaks' source of emails leaked during the 2016 U.S. presidential election?

Mueller has been incredibly thorough in his ongoing investigations - however he won't even respond to Kim Dotcom, the New Zealand entrepreneur who clearly knew about the hacked emails long before they were released, claims that Seth Rich obtained them with a memory stick, and has offered to provide proof to the Special Counsel investigation.

On May 18, 2017, Dotcom proposed that if Congress includes the Seth Rich investigation in their Russia probe, he would provide written testimony with evidence that Seth Rich was WikiLeaks' source.

In addition to several odd facts surrounding Rich's still unsolved murder - which officials have deemed a "botched robbery," forensic technical evidence has emerged which contradicts the Crowdstrike report. The Irvine, CA company partially funded by Google, was the only entity allowed to analyze the DNC servers in relation to claims of election hacking:

Notably, Crowdstrike has been considered by many to be discredited over their revision and retraction of a report over Russian hacking of Ukrainian military equipment - a report which the government of Ukraine said was fake news. 

In connection with the emergence in some media reports which stated that the alleged “80% howitzer D-30 Armed Forces of Ukraine removed through scrapping Russian Ukrainian hackers software gunners,” Land Forces Command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine informs that the said information is incorrect.

Ministry of Defence of Ukraine asks journalists to publish only verified information received from the competent official sources. Spreading false information leads to increased social tension in society and undermines public confidence in the Armed Forces of Ukraine. – (translated) (1.6.2017)

In fact, several respected journalists have cast serious doubt on CrowdStrike's report on the DNC servers: 


Pay attention, because Mueller is likely to use the Crowdstrike report to support the rumored upcoming charges against Russian hackers.

Also notable is that Crowdstrike founder and anti-Putin Russian expat Dimitri Alperovitch sits on the Atlantic Council - which is funded by the US State Department, NATO, Latvia, Lithuania, and Ukranian Oligarch Victor Pinchuk. Who else is on the Atlantic Council? Evelyn Farkas - who slipped up during an MSNBC interview with Mika Brzezinski and disclosed that the Obama administration had been spying on the Trump campaign: 

The Trump folks, if they found out how we knew what we knew about the Trump staff dealing with Russians, that they would try to compromise those sources and methods, meaning we would not longer have access to that intelligence. -Evelyn Farkas

Odd facts surrounding the murder of Seth Rich

"The facts that we know of in the murder of the DNC staffer, Seth Rich, was that he was gunned down blocks from his home on July 10, 2016. Washington Metro police detectives claim that Mr. Rich was a robbery victim, which is strange since after being shot twice in the back, he was still wearing a $2,000 gold necklace and watch. He still had his wallet, key and phone. Clearly, he was not a victim of robbery," writes Lyons. 

Another unexplained fact muddying the Rich case is that of a stolen 40 caliber Glock 22 handguns stoken from an FBI agent's car the same day Rich was murdered. D.C. Metro police said that the theft occurred between 5 and 7 a.m., while the FBI said two weeks later that the theft had occurred between Midnight and 2 a.m. - fueling speculation that the FBI gun was used in Rich's murder. 

Furthermore, two men working with the Rich family - private investigator and former D.C. Police detective Rod Wheeler and family acquaintance Ed Butowsky, have previously stated that Rich had contacts with WikiLeaks before his death. 

"According to Ed Butowsky, an acquaintance of the family, in his discussions with Joel and Mary Rich, they confirmed that their son transmitted the DNC emails to Wikileaks," writes Lyons. 

While Wheeler initially told TV station Fox5 that proof of Rich's contact with WikiLeaks lies on the murdered IT staffer's laptop, he later walked the claim back - though he maintained that there was "some communication between Seth Rich and WikiLeaks." 

Wheeler also claimed in recently leaked audio that Seth Rich’s brother, Aaron – a Northrup Grumman employee, blocked him from looking at Seth’s computer and stonewalled his investigation.

Wheeler said that brother Aaron Rich tried to block Wheeler from looking at Seth’s computer, even though there could be evidence on it. “He said no, he said I have his computer, meaning him,” Wheeler said. “I said, well can I look at it?…He said, what are you looking for? I said anything that could indicate if Seth was having problems with someone. He said no, I already checked it. Don’t worry about it.”

Aaron also blocked Wheeler from finding out about who was at a party Seth attended the night of the murder.

“All I want you to do is work on the botched robbery theory and that’s it,” Aaron told Wheeler -Big League Politics

Perhaps the most stunning audio evidence, however, comes from leaked audio of a recorded conversation between Ed Butowsky and Pulitzer Prize winning investigative journalist Seymour Hersh, who told him of a "purported FBI report establishing that Seth Rich sent emails to WikiLeaks.”

As transcribed and exclusively reported on by journalist Cassandra Fairbanks last year: 

What the report says is that some time in late Spring… he makes contact with WikiLeaks, that’s in his computer,” he says. “Anyway, they found what he had done is that he had submitted a series of documents — of emails, of juicy emails, from the DNC.”

Hersh explains that it was unclear how the negotiations went, but that WikiLeaks did obtain access to a password protected DropBox where Rich had put the files.

All I know is that he offered a sample, an extensive sample, I’m sure dozens of emails, and said ‘I want money.’ Later, WikiLeaks did get the password, he had a DropBox, a protected DropBox,” he said. They got access to the DropBox.”

Hersh also states that Rich had concerns about something happening to him, and had

“The word was passed, according to the NSA report, he also shared this DropBox with a couple of friends, so that ‘if anything happens to me it’s not going to solve your problems,’” he added. “WikiLeaks got access before he was killed.”

Brennan and Russian disinformation

Hersh also told Butowsky that the DNC made up the Russian hacking story as a disinformation campaign – directly pointing a finger at former CIA director (and now MSNBC/NBC contributor) John Brennan as the architect.

I have a narrative of how that whole f*cking thing began. It’s a Brennan operation, it was an American disinformation, and the fu*kin’ President, at one point, they even started telling the press – they were backfeeding the Press, the head of the NSA was going and telling the press, fu*king c*cksucker Rogers, was telling the press that we even know who in the Russian military intelligence service leaked it.

Listen to Seymour Hersh leaked audio: 

(full transcription here and extended audio of the Hersh conversation here

Hersh denied that he told Butowsky anything before the leaked audio emerged, telling NPR “I hear gossip… [Butowsky] took two and two and made 45 out of it.

Techincal Evidence

As we mentioned last week, Dotcom's assertion is backed up by an analysis done last year by a researcher who goes by the name Forensicator, who determined that the DNC files were copied at 22.6 MB/s - a speed virtually impossible to achieve from halfway around the world, much less over a local network - yet a speed typical of file transfers to a memory stick.

The big hint

Last but not least, let’s not forget that Julian Assange heavily implied Seth Rich was a source:

Given that a) the Russian hacking narrative hinges on Crowdstrikes's questionable reporting, and b) a mountain of evidence pointing to Seth Rich as the source of the leaked emails - it stands to reason that Congressional investigators and Special Counsel Robert Mueller should at minimum explore these leads. 

As retired U.S. Navy admiral James A. Lyons, Jr. asks: why aren't they?


macholatte Bigly Fri, 03/02/2018 - 20:27 Permalink


Something all of us here already know, if Mueller gets away from the delusion of Trump-Russia collusion then it will be his ass in the frying pan. So he won’t go after the Clintons, Obama, Comey or anyone else.  Hitlery could show up with a gun in her hand and tell Mueller she shot Seth and he would ignore it.

And, sadly, there ain’t nobody gonna do anything about it unless and until a Special Prosecutor from outside DC is hired. Right now a snowball in hell has a better chance.

It’s what’s for breakfast!
– Rod Sessions


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A Sentinel Buckaroo Banzai Sun, 03/04/2018 - 15:28 Permalink

That ms13 villains were involved wouldn’t be shocking. The Clintons were connected to one of the other big Mexican gangs, but ms13 is more international. Ms13 also has/had a heavy presence in northern Virginia.

my question is about the Pakistani spies who infiltrated congressional democrats. But no need to cast a wider net if there’s specific information.

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Citizen_x Occident Mortal Sat, 03/03/2018 - 10:42 Permalink

I agree.  At best the cover story is less than truthful.

It's obvious, something about Jullian Assange just doesn't add up.  The article below allegedly tie Assange to none other than Rupert Murdoch.  A person of interest who oddly, never seems to be denied credit.  What doesn't Murdoch own already?  Where does a newspaper man acquire the skills to hack cellphone conversations or who's on his pay roll that can?  So the question to ask... was Seth Rich cellphone hacked? -(their M.O.)  It would provide GPS proximity for Seth's location for the "hit" per Michael Hastings untimely demise and all other pertinent info like who Seth was about to meet with.  All willfully not investigated, Warren Commission style.…

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Heros Anunnaki Sat, 03/03/2018 - 04:38 Permalink

But what people don't seem to realize is that even if Rich did leak the emails to Wikileaks, that does not make him some kind of hero by any means.

He was a dual citizen who spent a year in the IDF.  Who knows what went on in that year and whether he was was Mossad, 8200, or something even more sinister.  

One thing I do know is that all those pictures of him making himself out as a US patriot by wearing asinine US flag outfits is even faker than the Parkland narrative.  Oh, and the claims that he did this for Bernie is just more leftoid zombie chum.

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MK ULTRA Alpha samsara Sat, 03/03/2018 - 01:14 Permalink

Correct. The FBI is involved in the murder of Seth Rich. This was one of the finest ZeroHedge articles.

Who killed Seth Rich? the Federal Bureau of Investigation. Why? who's order at DNC alerted the FBI to kill Seth Rich for downloading and sending the downloaded data to Wikileaks?  Or was it NSA notifying FBI counter intelligence, the same one leading the coup against Trump, leaking to media, plotting the coup, etc? NSA notified the FBI of a potential national security espionage event.

The FBI shooter was either a homosexual or African American. The gun reported stolen was cover, but lead bullet analysis has been discredited, but the motive for the stolen gun report was cover for the murder. How many times are guns stolen from the FBI at the same time of a highly visible political murder?

Recently, African Americans at DNC have made public calls for a race war to genocide whites. Many African Americans believed the continuation of Obama through Clinton would be the continuation of their hate dream of permanent loss and the end of white participation in political power and African American control of the Oval office.

The DNC was also staffed by an army of homosexuals, campaign staff were loaded with homosexuals. Brock at Media Matters is a homosexual nest of disinformation, thus we have evidence of many DNC campaigns of disinformation and the Wasserman Shultz foreign espionage ring. She was the director of DNC and Clinton's campaign director and her team were all homosexuals and African Americans.

So just like we've seen FBI employees manipulating the news media with leaks, national security investigations fraud, and blocking all calls for accountability, there is a high statistical probability the FBI murdered Seth Rich for political reasons and as an example to keep others in line.

Many of who were figuring out the racial and homosexual ramification, and the Bernie supports who were angry because of DNC manipulation of the gentrified white middle class socialist Bernie campaign. Made up of whining victim class communist who wanted their student loans paid for by the government.(which I agree, but I won't support someone like Bernie Sanders.)

In conclusion, there is no doubt in my military mind Seth Rich was murdered by the FBI. The new NSA spying system has been meshed with the FBI. The NSA knew Seth Rich was in contact with Wikileaks because NSA was monitoring Wikileaks. The NSA informed FBI counter intelligence, and we all know about the FBI counter intelligence was working to install Clinton and take down Trump, possibly a coup de tat assassination. FBI run coup and assassination of Trump.(it was actual moving in that direction because of CIA involvement from former director Brennan and his side kick Clapper. We even had a homosexual former CIA officer on CNN(a regular contributor) calling for the assassination of Trump, saying, they(the CIA) were going to kill Trump because of his twitter activity.)

The history of the FBI has been assassinations of Americans for political reasons, false flags, and manipulation of the national media.

Mueller will not investigate the Seth Rich murder because it would destroy the Russian DNC hacking lie. Former CIA director Brennan who is on the air ways with Clapper trying to over turn Trump because they are guilty of treason in the first degree, both of these men were involved.

Mueller refuses to investigate because Trump broke the political power and the fear hold the FBI had on the nation and Mueller must destroy Trump to get back the FBI political power and fear of the FBI.(Trump's actions have been good thing and many congress have called for abolishing the FBI after 911, but Bush II needed the storm troopers and the fear factor and the murderers for the national electronic control grid for the richest rich to control us. Bush II even brought in East German security experts from the secret police.)

So the US secret police, the FBI is caught, but Mueller won't do what is right for America, he has never done what is right for America and many have questioned his loyalty to the nation and cited why was Mueller this way after he was a Marine officer in Vietnam. Mueller is an enemy of freedom, the constitution, the Bill of Rights and the American people. He proved it over and over and he worked for the same money laundering drug cartel bank HSBC that Comey worked for running cover against DOJ indictment. The bank, then after the dirty deed, Director FBI. Both of them followed the same path.

The FBI murdered Seth Rich. (and Mueller knows it) And as Trump said before the election, TRILLIONS ARE AT STAKE.

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Arrow4Truth Grandad Grumps Sat, 03/03/2018 - 12:22 Permalink

Possible? Here, I'll fix it for you, "There is a plan to remove the white race from this world." Ref. "Rome and Jerusalem" written by Moses Hess the Communist Rabbi; Karl Marx (Moses Mordecia Levy); and the interesting parallels among Communism and the Protocols (Talmud/Kabbalah) segued into WW1, WWII, usury and the fractional reserve system (Federal Reserve, which is neither federal, nor a reserve), and politics. Not difficult to connect the dots. 

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jin187 MK ULTRA Alpha Sat, 03/03/2018 - 09:40 Permalink

That's right folks.  Hillary, Schultz, and Brennan, and the rest we're having their secret meeting, with their hooded robes, and goblets of virgin blood.  Then at some point during the meeting, Hillary slammed down her palm on the table made of orphan bones, and said "ENOUGH!  GET ME THE HOMOSEXUAL NEGRO EQUIVALENT OF JAMES BOND!".  The rest played out just like Alpha said.

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MK ULTRA Alpha jin187 Sat, 03/03/2018 - 10:03 Permalink

Homosexuals think in inverted logic. I was a programmer analyst, I had to use logic to code different mid range and I've also programmed a super computer in the 80's when I was on the GPS R&D team at the university's physics lab. Applied Research Laboratories.

I finished a Microsoft contract, I worked as technician on contract to Microsoft for the launch of XBOX LIVE, I was hired for software, then they realized I was also hardware capable. I was software, hardware and network engineering for Microsoft XBOX LIVE and I was a beta team member.

I'm the one who connected Redmond with Canada when no one could figure it out, a Nortel engineer and I trouble shooted the problem and had it up in less that thirty minutes. I've done this before.

What I am saying is I know logic, so when I finished the Microsoft contract, I went to work as a cab driver. It was a CIA behavioral research laboratory on wheels.

I tested thousands of homosexuals, they operate on inverted logic, the opposite of human logic. If you were paying attention, homosexuals disrupt human life, they would talk about it in the cab. I did this for over seven years. The thing that I was able to see after this research, was if we aren't like the homosexual, then they will plot to do us in.

The homosexuals are inbred. We're in a war between the human species and the non-humans species. And I don't care what your MSM mind control mind says, you've been brainwashed not to question your reality. A young person in America during the Obama era would most definitely be brainwashed to lay down and die. It was a communist defeatist mantra.

I've cataloged all the different human minds and non-human species minds in the US. I left the world of being a techie, to find out what was wrong with America. I had worked abroad for many years and all of my focus had been outward, not internal. I turned my face towards America in 2003, I've been conducting the same operation since then. I've written well over ten thousand essays on many platforms.

African Americans?, there are good African Americans, but the communist use them as a pawn. Many have been radicalized and brainwashed by MSM. One must understand, around 30% of each race hates each other. So we've got 70% loyal African Americans. The rest, well some of them are at the DNC.


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MK ULTRA Alpha garcam123 Sat, 03/03/2018 - 11:34 Permalink

You're projecting, this means you're talking about yourself. When you get older with more experience you will be able to see when people talk about themselves.

Believe me, in Austin Texas, there are more normal people than the new normal.

It was a great platform for operations, the investigation of the homosexual mind was just one small operation among a national operation.

When people came to the city for SXSW and Austin City Limits, I would introduce the data of what was behind the curtain. All that Bilderberg group, Khazars, Council on Foreign Relations, everything. People actual began to talk about me on their blogs. So I got a little worried and went to preach on the west coast.

I trained officers for a Patriot Army. Each officer was programmed, some on the 40 minute ride to the airport, then this would spark a question in their minds, they would go back to their state to train and recruit soldiers. I've done this before in foreign countries, and it works here too. But the Americans aren't homogeneous like in foreign countries so it was harder and took longer.

In Oregon at a meeting, I was asked to sign a petition by a group. I said I can't sign that, and they said why? I said, because I'm MK ULTRA. They ask me many questions, but what got me, they knew who I was and asked me are you MK ULTRA from Austin. I didn't tell anyone I was from Austin. So I had to change directions, so I stirred up the black people in Jacksonville, in the first term of Obama, they took over the city. See, I really am an MK ULTRA, and I really am trained by the CIA, and I really am a CIA child.

And maybe sometime, I will tell you about the movie made about me. I met the director and everything, he was at the Austin Four Seasons all the way from Hollywood. See I stirred it up big in Austin until I was known big and that was not my purpose. It is you who are important, not me, it is you, I must take your mind back for you and then make sure you know the enemy. I'd been doing it for over 40 years abroad, so why not try it here in the USA, it worked.

So I know the explanation of homosexuality and inverted logic caused by inbreeding popped your bubble. It is possible from peer group pressure, national media brainwashing how good it is to be a homosexual and to join the new normal movement. It was a tremendous cultural destruction for a good portion of American youth. So in your case, homosexual acts that you've done, doesn't mean you're a homosexual.

Once there were four women in the cab, all of them were making sure I knew they were homosexuals, there were two pretty young white girls and two hard core fat homosexual Hispanics. See they pay the way of the two white girls. I ask one of the girls, why do you think you're gay? She said because they told me I was gay. Peer group mind control.

Later the two homosexuals tried to convince me, the entire nation was going gay. This was their agenda. So you don't know if you're really a homosexual or not. Young people today, have an extremely confused reality they must navigate. It's sometimes destructive.

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SwiffFiffteh MK ULTRA Alpha Sun, 03/04/2018 - 00:51 Permalink

If you are a troll, at least you're fun to read. Ditto if you're just a basement dweller with delusions of grandeur.

You said about 70% of black Americans are good patriots. I'd say that statistic is roughly accurate across all races, genders, creeds, and orientations. Hell, it applies to the entire human race. 70% of people are generally good folk. The remainin 30%, not so much. 

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MK ULTRA Alpha 11b40 Sat, 03/03/2018 - 10:27 Permalink

Let me apologize for my essay not being up to your high standards. I wrote it once with a small amount of editing. Of course I wouldn't turn it in as a research paper.

I used the method of Ernest Hemingway in the university. His method was to write the research paper three times. It works, because I was able to fake my way through nearly ten years at UT Austin. I was able to fool the business school with a major in MIS, some how I made it. It was the hottest degree in the country back then. It was something like over 6000 tried at the start, but only around 120 made it. I just happened to have forged the documents with my poor writing skills and got a diploma.

I also have an electronic engineering degree, and I can drill for oil in the great state of Texas because I have the academic requirement for petroleum engineering license, I would have to review Schlumberger well log analysis, fluid flow thermodynamic etc. I could have added petroleum engineering, history, languages etc as majors.

I have a CIA modified brain, it's not perfect, but I have defeated all competition in documented competition from Yale, Cornell, and Columbia, I beat the living SHIT out of them, because when it started, the Yankees thought I was some hill billy from Texas, they didn't know I had a CIA modified brain. And what did I do, I told them about it each time asking them what's a matter! And what was the competition, LOL it was grading high school graduation test. I always scored in the top ten out of about 150 people and many times I was number one.

So if you're having problems with my English, it's not me, it's you.

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11b40 MK ULTRA Alpha Sun, 03/04/2018 - 15:09 Permalink

Let me apologize sincerely, as I need to eat some crow.

I miss-read your introductory paragraph:

"Correct. The FBI is involved in the murder of Seth Rich. This was one of the finest ZeroHedge articles."

....and thought that you were saying what followed was a ZH article.  I realize after having another look, that you were referring to the current article, not what you then wrote, which was not, in my opinion, up to ZH standards (even though those standards have been slipping).

 My bad.


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I Quit Stan522 Sat, 03/03/2018 - 08:30 Permalink

MS-13 gang members, who were later killed in one of the Carolina's.  I think George Webb has done the work of the FBI. Also, QAnon talked about this. 


Admiral Rodgers DID NOT leak anything to the press about some fake Russia hack.  NSA and MIC know EVERYTHING!  He is a true patriot. He is the MAN who went to TRUMP and told him he was being spied on in Trump Tower. 


Military Tribunals for the higher level crooks. Not public, NO CNN!



Did you see the new EO on 3-1???  deals with military tribunals..  MAGA

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MozartIII macholatte Fri, 03/02/2018 - 22:08 Permalink

It will be a Real civil war! The special prosecutors will hang. No exceptions! I used to think that a US Civil war based on divisions of the populace was not possible. The left has gone so far militant retard that you cannot expect anything else at this point. It will take a few more years though.

Buy when there is real blood in the streets.... Sad but true!

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fattail GUS100CORRINA Sat, 03/03/2018 - 07:11 Permalink

Why are you praying.  Get on the horn to Jeff Sessions, the attorney general of the US,, he could do anything he wanted on this but sits on his hands.  Which is prima facia evidence that nothing has changed in DC.  It is still one big club and we ain't in it.

Crowdstrike refusing to hand over the server to the FBI, means the FBI didn't fucking ask for it.  You don't get to tell the government "no" when they are looking for evidence that there has been a leak of classified information.  It just shows the FBI and DOJ were complicit in the coverup, and Seth Rich was just a loose end who got taken care of.

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JoseyWalesTheOutlaw fattail Sat, 03/03/2018 - 08:18 Permalink

Crowstrike is a paid player in the game for the Left. They were chosen for a reason just like John McCain was selected to bring the dossier to Comey. The only question is will they be able to pull this off? We'll see. Judge Nap says Brennan used the Brits to spy on The Don and he lost his gig for a couple of weeks but returned and he doubled down on his claims. This is without a doubt the biggest corruption scheme ever in this country. Mueller will charge The Don with something. 



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