Germany Owes Poland $850 Billion For WWII Reparations, Polish Official Claims

Another Polish official has called out Germany over WWII reparations, claiming that up to $850 billion (€690 billion) are owed after 6 million Polish citizens were killed during the nearly six-year occupation. 

We are talking about very large, but justified amounts of compensation for war crimes, for destroyed cities, villages and the lost demographic potential of our country,” said Polish politician Arkadiusz Mularczyk of the Law and Justice party (PiS) in an interview with Polsat News.

Over the last year, Polish politicians have made repeated calls for reparations from Germany as deep cracks have formed between Poland and the EU. Eight years after the fall of the Nazi regime, Poland decided to forego further reparations from Germany in a 1953 agreement. Polish authorities have claimed it's invalid because it was directed by Moscow when Poland was a satellite of the Soviet Union. 

Last year, a research group within Poland’s lower house of parliament, the Sejm, began reviewing whether this would be possible according to TheLocal. The results are expected this year - which Mularczyk suspects could be in the $850 billion range. 

In August, the head of the Polish PiS party, Jaroslaw Kaczynski, accused Germany of "rejecting" its WWII responsibilities - and said reparations should be on the table. "We are talking about huge sums and also the fact that the Germans have for years rejected their responsibility for the Second World War," Kaczynski told Catholic radio station Radio Maryja.

Execution of ethnic Poles by German SS Einsatzkommando soldiers in Leszno, October 1939

Kaczynski's brother and former President Lech Kaczynski - who died in 2010 - had estimated when he was mayor of Warsaw that the had cost the capital city alone $45.3 billion.

Last September, Poland's foreign minister demanded "serious talks" with Germany over the issue.

Polish farmers executed in occupied Poland

As The Independent  reported last year, the rhetoric has been heating up.

Poland’s foreign minister Witold Waszczykowski told local radio station RMF that “serious talks” were needed with Germany to "find a way to deal with the fact that German-Polish relations are overshadowed by the German aggression of 1939 and unresolved post-war issues."

He said Poland’s material losses were about $1 trillion, or higher.

Polish defense minister Antoni Macierewicz also accused European critics of trying to “erase” the fate of the Poles at German hands during the war “from the historical memory of Europe”.

The country’s right-wing government has dismissed a 1953 resolution by Poland’s former communist government which dropped any claim to reparations from Germany, and are instead claiming that Germany is “shirking” its moral responsibility.

Relations between Berlin and Warsaw have been off late over issues including Germany’s push to share responsibility for refugees across Europe - which Poland has rejected - to the European Commission’s infringement procedure against PiS plans to have more control over the judiciary. Last August the EU sued Poland, Hungary and the Czech Republic, forcing them to accept refugees even as the rest of Europe turns a blind eye to the 100 thousand refugees that have made landfall in recent months in Italy.

Poland has not made an official demand to date, while Germany has repeatedly said there is no legal basis for reparations due to the 1953 agreement. There have, however, been individual to Poles who were forced laborers or victims of Nazi medical experiments during the wartime occupation. 



ramius wildbad Tue, 03/06/2018 - 03:25 Permalink

 Well, if you started, tell the full story. Even before the war, the poles had a nationalistic regime in place, which persecuted and murderred ethnic germans . After the war was over, with some soviet help, ALL ethnic germans were kicked out ( some robbed and murderred) of they'se homes , bot from polish land, and from the annexed provinces of east prussia, which was ment to compensate the poles for the eastern half of they;re country ( taken by Stalin, according to the Ribbentrop - Molotov agreement, and never given back) which came to be part of bielorussia, and was ethnicly clensed as well, the displaced poles being given the former houses and property of the east prussian people forced to leave and settle in east ( soviet occupied) germany. Oh, shall I say all these expropriations took place without any records being kept, or compensations of any sort? One day you had dinner at the table with your family, the next a soldier with a gun pointed to your head tells you you have 3 hours to get the hell outa there, and only take what you can carry. They left houses, land, livestock, farming implements and other personal belongings behind, and started over in a war wrought, destroyed and sovietised country, which could barely feed itself, among all the raping and looting that took place in the aftermath of the war. So, should Germany seek compensation for this ethnic clensing ? If so, from whom? The USSR is long dead, and the poles would not open the subject, but they surely can ask for unfair compensations for what? Wasn't there enough suffering in the past, why do they need to tear open these festering wounds? Oh, I forgot, in they're history books, they are the good guys, heroes of christianity, always the victim, never the agressor. I'm sure, if you ask the average pole, they know shit about the fact that half of they're original country belonged to the prussians ( the ancestors of modern Germany) , whom they killed and chased away, robbed , raped and persecuted, and the half which realy belongs to them, is still rusky teritory. Falsifying history is strong with these a-holes, they were ruthless twofaced doublecrossing basterds in the past, and so they are today. Do you think they're country was dismemberred for 3 centuries was an accident? I was punishment, and it had a cause, or at least a motivation. And as we know, that history repeats itself, let's see how long until Germany again sets fire to the continent. You know , 3rd time a charm. 

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Heros ramius Tue, 03/06/2018 - 03:30 Permalink

Don't forget that Poland also invaded Chechoslovakia in 1938. 

The Poles also sided with the "allies" in WWII to help the Soviets steal and ethnically cleanse half of Poland in 45.

Right now Poland is a key Nato component pushing for war.  They have been drooling over Kalingrad ever since it was ethnically cleansed by the Soviets.

The Poles have gladly been ((globalist)) puppets for centuries.

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Déjà view Heros Tue, 03/06/2018 - 03:39 Permalink

In order too pay...Germany must collect from France & Sweden et al for damages caused by 30 Years War 1618-48...worst war until WW1...
Population declined 21m to 14m...first war vast numbers of civilians suffered at hands of an army...
Napoleonic Wars (Poland allied with Napoleon) also heaped great losses upon Germany...

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Mister Ponzi SoilMyselfRotten Tue, 03/06/2018 - 11:21 Permalink

The PiS Position is inconsistent here. Poland received parts of Germany's Ostgebiete after the war which constitute today's Polish regions (województwa) or part of the regions zachodniopomorskie, pomorskie, Warmia i Mazury, lubuskie, dolnośląskie, śląskie and opolskie. You cannot simply look at one side of the bill but not take into account what you got. If you consider the value of the land and everything located there I'm not sure about the sign of the remainder. Now, the Polish government claims that, on the other hand, they lost a lot of land in the east. True, but they lost it to the USSR, not to Germany. Blaiming Germany for this loss because they started the war is too easy IMHO. Nobody forced the USSR to take this land. So, Poland should solve this question with Ukraine, Lithuania, and Belarus where their eastern territories are located now.

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Slack Jack Heros Tue, 03/06/2018 - 05:44 Permalink


There are no ancient Jewish cities in Israel,...
but there are lots of ancient Greek cities.

What is weird is this; that 2000 years ago, it seems that there were no people even resembling Jews, in Israel.

It turns out that there is not a single ancient Jewish city in what is now called Israel. There is not a single ancient city where Hebrew characters are used on the statues and buildings. There is not a single ancient city where the buildings are in the ancient Jewish architectural style. In fact, there is not even a category of "ancient Jewish architectural style".

Of course, the Hebrew characters that are desired, are those of the Dead Sea scrolls (supposedly from 2000 years ago), which are essentially the modern Hebrew characters without points.

If you check out all the ancient cities in Israel from 2000 years ago, they are all Greek, and their ruins are still there for you to visit. Their inscriptions are in the Greek script and the buildings are in the ancient Greek architectural styles.

Here is a list of some of the known ancient Greek cities in (and near) Israel; Ecdippa, Seleucia, Ptolemais, Taricheia Arbela, Asochis, Sepphoris, Hippos, Dion, Sycaminum, Bucolon Polis, Itabyrium, Gadara, Abila, Dora, Comus, Gephrus, Crocodilion Polis, Caesarea, Straton's Tower, Narbata, Scythopolis, Pella, Samaria, Amathus, Ragaba, Gerasa, Apollonia, Sicima, Pegae, Joppa, Arimathea, Jamnia, Port of Jamnia, Lydda, Modiin, Aphaerema, Philadelphia, Birtha, Gazara, Beth Horon, Dok, Jericho, Samaga, Esbus, Medaba, Ladder of Tyre, Azotus, Port of Azotus, Accaron, Jerusalem, Ascalon, Anthedon, Gaza, Marissa, Beth Zur, Hebron, Adora, Engeddi.

The ancient Jewish cities in Israel are,....... well there aren't any. Not even one.

Here's an interesting example of a first century BC Greek inscription (i.e., in Greek letters) from Jerusalem's Temple Mount forbidding the entry of strangers to the Temple precinct.

The pictured stone was found in 1935. It was actually the second such warning-stone to be found, the first being discovered by Charles Simon Clermont-Ganneau in 1871. It was deemed so dangerous to the "Jews inhabited Israel 2000 years ago" theory, that it completely disappeared for 13 years before resurfacing in Istanbul, where, it was correctly calculated, it would not attract much attention.


The first Jerusalem Temple Mount warning-stone, now found in the Archaeology Museum, Istanbul, is pictured below:

It says (in Greek): "No stranger is to enter within the balustrade round the temple and enclosure. Whoever is caught will be responsible to himself for his death, which will ensue."

Slack Jack's CHALLENGE:

Name ONE ancient city (that existed in what is now called Israel) where the building inscriptions are all in Hebrew, and the buildings are constructed in the ancient Hebrew architectural style (whatever that may be).

Then give a summary of "the ancient Hebrew architectural style" (you will have to make this up as it does not yet exist).

Then give links to photos of the ancient building inscriptions which show that they are written in Hebrew.

Then show that the buildings are constructed in the ancient Hebrew architectural style (that you have just invented).

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Slack Jack Slack Jack Tue, 03/06/2018 - 05:45 Permalink


The Dead Sea scrolls Hoax.

The Dead Sea scrolls are a mixture of old documents that were hidden in a number of caves to be miraculously found and used to support the establishment of Israel, a country intended for Jews only.

The main document "finds" were in 1946 and 1947 in caves near the tiny ancient settlement of Qumran.

Israel was created in 1948.

The Dead Sea scrolls are the only really old (well supposedly really old) documents, in the Hebrew characters, that have ever been found. No other really old documents in the Hebrew characters have ever been found.

All other documents in Hebrew characters date from later than 800 AD.

Previous to the "finds", critics had pointed out the late date of all documents in Hebrew characters, and deduced that the Hebrew Old Testament must have been translated from the Greek Old Testament and not the other way round.

Then, low and behold,... a very timely miracle occurs.

The Dead Sea scrolls are "found" and dated to hundreds of years earlier than the oldest previously known documents in Hebrew characters.

Then, it is widely claimed that all the scrolls were produced and hidden in the Qumran caves before 70 AD (the supposed time of the mythical sack of Jerusalem by the Romans).

The critics are not given access to the scrolls nor even photographs of the text, lest they spoil the party.

In fact, for decades, only seven scholars are given access to the scrolls.

This goes on till certain critics are dead and the scrolls have been purged of all anachronisms (like Arabic numerals).

Then, in 1991, only 45 years after their "discovery", the Huntington Library, in San Marino, California, without consent, makes facsimile copies of the scrolls available to all.

So that, in brief, is the Dead Sea scrolls Hoax.

More, however, can be deduced....

One can even guess where the Dead Sea documents came from.

It turns out that some of the Dead Sea documents, for example, the "Damascus Document," are nearly identical to documents from the Genizah collection of the Ben Ezra Synagogue in Cairo, Egypt. So, it is likely that many of the Dead Sea scrolls had their source there.

Worldwide, there are ten manuscripts of the "Damascus Document" from the Dead Sea scrolls and two from the Cairo Genizah. This strange distribution is a result of the fraud. The "Damascus Document" was first published in 1910 by Solomon Schechter in "Fragments of a Zadokite Work."

The Ben Ezra Synagogue was established around 900 AD.

Now, the Arabs have ruled Egypt since they defeated the Greek armies around 635 AD.

Now, the synagogue (and its Jews) existed happily, undisturbed, in Cairo, in the midst of the Islamic world.

So, maybe the original Jews were a group of Arabs.

This would explain why Hebrew and Arabic are nearly identical languages.

This would explain why the Hebrew and Islamic religious traditions are very similar.

And, it would also explain why Jews turned up in Spain with the Arabs (Moors).

Another couple of points:

It should also be noted that a few Jewish scholars (in particular, Solomon Zeitlin) have long insisted that the Dead Sea scrolls were a Medieval production. [Zeitlin was a well-known Talmudic scholar and would not claim this unless convinced it was true.]

Internal evidence from the scrolls themselves indicates a Medieval production. See, here.

And, the fact that many scrolls are written on vellum (90% of them) proves these are indeed a Medieval production.

It is estimated that 20 people occupied the site of Qumran (estimated by the number of inhabitants for whom there was room in the buildings). Now these 20 people were not just ordinary people, they read and wrote Greek, Phoenician, Aramaic, Nabataean, and Hebrew documents, like natives, and managed to write learned works on numerous religious topics (about 900 manuscripts were "recovered"; about six hundred separate works), while gathering enough water, and raising enough food, for their survival, in a desert.

Some have tried to claim that as many as 200 lived at Qumran, but most have considered that number ridiculously high.

Anyway, I think it is clear that the Dead Sea scrolls are a bunch of old documents that have been thrown together and sold to a gullible world.

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LA_Goldbug Heros Tue, 03/06/2018 - 04:01 Permalink

"Don't forget that Poland also invaded Chechoslovakia in 1938."
You're a Bigger Idiot than "ramius". I didn't think that was possible.

"drooling over Kalingrad "
Ha ha ha ha, that little piece of shitty land ???? This must be a "Monty Python" line or SNL. Which is it ?

"The Poles have gladly been ((globalist)) puppets for centuries."

Here in part I would agree. They certainly haven't learned who is stuffing them into the shit bowl. Hopefully they are learning now as they get the whipping from US and Israel about "history". But we know it is not "history". It is about £££££££££££££££££ or if you like $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

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Heros LA_Goldbug Tue, 03/06/2018 - 04:25 Permalink

"At noon on 30 September, Poland gave an ultimatum to the Czechoslovak government. It demanded the immediate evacuation of Czechoslovak troops and police and gave Prague time until noon the following day. At 11:45 a.m. on 1 October the Czechoslovak foreign ministry called the Polish ambassador in Prague and told him that Poland could have what it wanted. The Polish Army, commanded by General Władysław Bortnowski, annexed an area of 801.5 km² with a population of 227,399 people."–Czechoslovak_border_conflicts#Annexations_by_Poland_in_1938

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LA_Goldbug Heros Tue, 03/06/2018 - 04:37 Permalink

" invaded Chechoslovakia"

Yes friend I know that, but the issue was "Zaolzie " and not take over of Czechoslovakia as you IMPLY. You don't mention this, do you. That was the beef.

At the same time as that was happening, which you DON'T MENTION. Germany WAS INVADING Czechoslovakia and eventually swallowed it up completely. Poles went after their own as they were in "relatively" OK diplomatic relations with Germany. It was naive thinking along the line "If they can so can we." A Big Mistake because they had NO ALLIES in Europe but they simply DIDN'T understand this fact. Today they are revisiting that lesson.

"Ouch ouch, they're hitting my ass !!!" - says Warsaw.

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Heros LA_Goldbug Tue, 03/06/2018 - 04:44 Permalink

"It was naive thinking along the line "If they can so can we.""

No it wasn't, and Poland seized more than just Zaolzie.   Poland had also been fighting with Ukraine over Lviv.  

Poland, which did not exist in 1918, was even more upset about her borders after Versailles than National Socialist Germany was.   Germany wanted the German majority Sudetenland, but only forced the issue after the Czechs started ethnic cleansing Germans.  Ditto Poland.

Poland wanted an empire, was busy ethnically cleansing Germans, Ruthininans and Ukrainians, and was aggressively provoking her neighbors.  Then and now.

In short, all those Polach jokes are true, and those Ukrainian nationalists are correct about one thing anyway:  Poles are dangerous warmongers that should be forced back into Poland.

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alus Heros Tue, 03/06/2018 - 05:12 Permalink

Czech took Zaolzie in 1920 from Poland where Poland was figthing alone with Soviet Union wanted to create "european soviet revolution". Czech didn't help then. This area was habitated by big polish majority. The same situation was after WW2 when only Russian intervention prevented from another war..  The fact is: Germany never paid to Poland anything for destroying whole the country and killing millions. Poland lost the most (17% of the population has been died!). And now all the actions around is because finally the government representing the people took the power...

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ramius alus Tue, 03/06/2018 - 07:03 Permalink

:)) it must have been hard to defeat an army of half starved peasants with little to no military training , who just finished fighting a civil war and were lead by incompetent drunks like Tuhachevsky. Poland was one of the few european countries who escaped with they're army intact, while all the great powers were exhausted and burried under mountains of debt. Who started the war? I think you better leave the subject as it is, or you may open a biiig can of stinky worms you won't be able to lock back up. And leave those reparations be, the german people suferred enough, they're youth purged, 2 generations killed, all the best genes of the nation burried in the fields of Russia, what the hell do you want from them? it's a miracle they survived as a nation, and they again worked they're way up the economic foodchain after all that. BTW, where did you get that 17%? I thought it was well documented, that russia lost the most, both in real numbers and in percentage of it's population. 

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ramius LA_Goldbug Tue, 03/06/2018 - 06:33 Permalink

  And why exactly am I an idiot? Please put forward your arguments, or chew a dick and keep your pyehole shut. Oh, and that  "piece of shit land "Kaliningrad is more important than you think, why do you think the ruskies kept it tooth and nail for 70 years + now? Its a strategic port, and strategic point , the lock to open the northern route to europe. 

  Ïdiot"you say. I've seen soo many rabid dogs like you, who try to win argument using invectives when they run out of arguments , or didn't had them in the first place. 

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alus Max Hunter Tue, 03/06/2018 - 05:15 Permalink

??? Another idiot. Germany bombed civilians in Wielun first. They had so big debt (spent before on army and guns) that they had to attack someone. It was lucky for you, that it wasn't France first... I'm wondering how the PR would look like when Germans would kill 1/5 of french (or english) population just because they were French..

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ramius alus Tue, 03/06/2018 - 06:44 Permalink

I wonder who started to kill off ethnic germans in and around Konigsberg. Oh wait, it was the poles, my gosh, what a surprise. 

 Read your own history , and check multiple sources and archives before you call people with different view idiots, pollach. I wonder how would you react if your neighbour started to beat your children in the street, and threaten your wife with rape and murder. Fact is, the poles were stupid, they believed england and france and let loose they're primal instincts, in fat, they're true collors, and got called on they're bluff. Morale? Never slap a bear in the face , no mater how cocky you think you are, cause he may just slap you back. 

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zeroboris Heros Tue, 03/06/2018 - 05:19 Permalink

to help the Soviets steal and ethnically cleanse half of Poland in 45.

What?! Poles started ethnic cleansing long before the WWII (e. g. policy of polonization of Belorussians and other ethnic groups), eagerly helped Hitler to burn prisoners (not only Jews) in concentration camps and do pogroms after the war to force Jews to leave the country (see the declassified NKVD reports). They were and are more Nazi than German counterparts.

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squint zeroboris Tue, 03/06/2018 - 21:07 Permalink

Can you provide a link to the NKVD reports.

Lavrenti Beria, a Trotsky look-alike presented as a "Georgian" was the "head of the secret police, the NKVD and responsible for overseeing the murder of millions of Russians, some shot at night in the depths of the Lubyanka, ... the mass murderer of millions of people".

Is this whom you are referring us to??…:


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squint Heros Tue, 03/06/2018 - 20:53 Permalink

Poland took back Zaolzie, which had Polish majority in 1938 because it was stolen from Poland by Czechoslovakia in 1919.

While the Poles were fighting the Communist Bolsheviks in the east who were preparing for invasion of western Europe, the Czechoslovaks invaded in 1919 and ceased the area. The Poles returned the favour and took it back in 1938.

The land was RETURNED to Poland when the Polish government gave an ultimatum without firing a single shot.–Czechoslovak_War

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LA_Goldbug ramius Tue, 03/06/2018 - 03:53 Permalink

You must think that no one reads history here.

"Even before the war, the poles had a nationalistic regime in place, which persecuted and murderred ethnic germans ."

Sweeping statement. So the Poles had their own version of the German SS Einsatzkommand before WW II ? You can sell this only to those who don't history of Europe.

"Oh, shall I say all these expropriations took place without any records being kept, or compensations of any sort? One day you had dinner at the table with your family, the next a soldier with a gun pointed to your head tells you you have 3 hours to get the hell outa there, and only take what you can carry."

Ah, so the Germans kept exact records of what they stole from whom. What they burned and who was owed? etc.

How about the flood of Germans who went East following the German SS Einsatzkommand in-order to populate the conquered land der untermensch ? Nothing on that ? How about that "Generalplan Ost" , what was that shit all about ?

Give us a break "expert".

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ramius LA_Goldbug Tue, 03/06/2018 - 06:48 Permalink

   Actually, the germans did kept records, they were, and even today, obsessed with records and recording everything. Who didn't keep records were the russians, they just toke everything that wasn't nailed or bolted to the floor. That many of those records then went east, and are still locked shut under state secret designation in the Kremlin archives, that's another mater. 

  BTW, go in a publick lybrary, and read the period newspapers. You don't have to search hard, and what you'll find, may shock you.In fact, read the excerpts ( if you can find them) of both the german, polish, czech and british newspapers, to get the full picture.  

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