WTFacebook Asks Users If Adults Should Be Allowed To Ask Kids For "Sexual Pictures"

Via The Anti Media,

In a move that’s baffling at best and rather appalling at worst, Facebook has been busted asking users if they think it’s alright for adults to solicit “sexual pictures” from minors on its platform.

While this may sound ridiculous on the surface — because it is — nevertheless, it happened.

On Sunday, the social media behemoth sent surveys out to a group of its users with questions on the issue of child grooming, the process of adults befriending children for the purposes of sexual abuse or other nefarious ends like trafficking and prostitution.

“There are a wide range of topics and behaviours that appear on Facebook,” began one of the questions.

 “In thinking about an ideal world where you could set Facebook’s policies, how would you handle the following: a private message in which an adult man asks a 14-year-old girl for sexual pictures.”

Respondents’ answer options ranged from “this content should be allowed on Facebook, and I would not mind seeing it” to “this content should not be allowed on Facebook, and no one should be able to see it. ”Survey takers were also allowed to select that they have “no preference” on the subject.

In a follow-up question, the tech company asked users who the arbiter of such content and behavior should be. Answer options ranged from “Facebook decides the rules on its own” to “Facebook users decide the rules by voting and tell Facebook.” Others involved getting input from outside experts.

Strangely, neither of the two questions gave survey takers the choice to suggest that law enforcement should be alerted to the situation.

It didn’t take long for the media to catch on. The digital editor for the Guardian, Jonathan Haynes, flagged the issue on Twitter. He got a response from Facebook’s VP of Product, Guy Rosen, who called the inclusion of such questions a “mistake” that shouldn’t have happened:

“We run surveys to understand how the community thinks about how we set policies. But this kind of activity is and will always be completely unacceptable on FB. We regularly work with authorities if identified. It shouldn’t have been part of this survey. That was a mistake.”

A statement from Facebook shared with the media struck a similarly apologetic tone but also contained some defensiveness:

We sometimes ask for feedback from people about our community standards and the types of content they would find most concerning on Facebook. We understand this survey refers to offensive content that is already prohibited on Facebook and that we have no intention of allowing so have stopped the survey. We have prohibited child grooming on Facebook since our earliest days; we have no intention of changing this and we regularly work with the police to ensure that anyone found acting in such a way is brought to justice.”

Speaking to the Guardian, British Parliament member Yvette Cooper, chair of the Home Affairs Select Committee, roundly condemned Facebook’s move:

“This is a stupid and irresponsible survey. Adult men asking 14-year-olds to send sexual images is not only against the law, it is completely wrong and an appalling abuse and exploitation of children. I cannot imagine that Facebook executives ever want it on their platform but they also should not send out surveys that suggest they might tolerate it or suggest to Facebook users that this might ever be acceptable.”

Andy Burrows, associate head of child safety for the National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children, told Newsweek that “Facebook’s decision to crowdsource views on how to deal with a criminal offence is hugely concerning.”

The move, and the backlash, comes as social media companies face increased pressure to moderate the content on their platforms. Given that context, TechCrunch notes that it’s “hard to fathom” what Facebook was thinking with such a survey.

Further, the outlet highlights, the incident shows that the company would much rather lay the responsibility of content moderation on its users:

“The approach also reinforces the notion that Facebook is much more comfortable trying to engineer a moral compass (via crowdsourcing views and thus offloading responsibility for potentially controversial positions onto its users) than operating with any innate sense of ethics and/or civic mission of its own.”


JSBach1 ???ö? Tue, 03/06/2018 - 17:49 Permalink

Get off of Facebook, twitter, and ThemTube (the purging has already begun):

Use alternatives instead:

--corbett report: get off of ThemTube!/v/corbettreport/trhcyhec



--corbett report: weaponizing social media!/v/corbettreport/kqn54tmc



The art of deception by GCHQ:… 

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NoDebt King of Ruperts Land Tue, 03/06/2018 - 19:09 Permalink

I told you guys more than a year ago when the Podesta stuff started to break their ultimate solution would be to mainstream pedophilia.  

I never imagined they would start on that project so quickly, but here we are.

In five years they will start shaming people who denounce pedophilia and there will be calls to label anti-pedophilia a "hate crime".  It will just be called another sexual choice, no better or worse than any other.  Just another "oppressed minority" in need of protecting.  Mark my words.



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RKae Stan522 Tue, 03/06/2018 - 18:40 Permalink

That perv who wrote the "I'm a pedophile, not a monster" editorial wrote another a week later called "My week in the right-wing hate machine."

I said, "Well, thank you for confirming that being disgusted at pedophiles is a fully right-wing idea."

I've never been so proud to be a right-winger.

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GeezerGeek Ajax-1 Tue, 03/06/2018 - 17:55 Permalink

I'm happy that you didn't suggest sending SEC employees instead of DOJ investigators. On the other hand, the DOJ is no longer trustworthy either. At least a few would send the pictures along to Slick Willie.

And why did they (Facebook) risk raising the ire of the LGBTQWERTY community by adding options for grown men to ask young boys, confused adults to ask confused youth, etc.?


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techpriest Ajax-1 Tue, 03/06/2018 - 22:03 Permalink

I have an alternative theory.

I did a stint in academia a while back, and what this survey feels like to me, is Facebook asking obvious questions with predictable responses. In the question they gave, 99% of people would say "I don't want to see that, and nobody should." Facebook could then cite this "study," while not revealing the questions, as a justification for censoring content that is "objectionable."

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mkkby Sudden Debt Tue, 03/06/2018 - 20:22 Permalink

Children SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED on social media without parental consent and contact information attached.  If predatory behavior is noted, that contact information will be used to inform the parents.  They could then contact law enforcement, monitor their child's online activities or even shut down the child's account.

This isn't so fucking hard.

Personally, if I had kids I would have their phone/computer logins and I would *audit* their activities.  If they resisted I would take away their devices.  That's called supervision and that's what you do when you actually care about their welfare.

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GeezerGeek Giant Meteor Tue, 03/06/2018 - 17:59 Permalink

Some twisted souls might claim that having an older male ask for pictures from a younger female would be very good for her self-esteem. Aren't we told that self-esteem is of primary importance? In return for a picture, the guy can even send her a participation trophy in response.

Personally, I think Facebook's facilities are in dire need of fire and brimstone raining down from above.

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lincolnsteffens U4 eee aaa Tue, 03/06/2018 - 18:07 Permalink

There are vast numbers of people that believe in a god or profess to believe in a god that are pedophiles. All you have to do is look to the Catholic Church and  the depraved behavior of ISIS and other Muslim societies against Muslims that don't conform to their version of Islam. Muslim, Catholic or what ever your belief system there are plenty of hedonists who can't or don't want to control their quest for pleasure no matter what the consequences to others are.

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SeattleBruce lincolnsteffens Tue, 03/06/2018 - 23:14 Permalink

Just because you publicly say you believe, does not mean you're not Godless. They just attempt to hide their vile filth, in a rather convenient way. In any case, do we need to really list the massive crimes against humanity that pagans and atheists have committed?  Yes, the Catholics and some other hierarchical churches have had a hard time policing the criminals that prey on, and protect themselves inside that hierachy.  Believers need to do a better job of reforming their churches.

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TuPhat css1971 Tue, 03/06/2018 - 18:34 Permalink

Who says catholic priests can't be 'godless'.  In the case of muslims I think they have a god but he is not the one who cares about the well being of mankind.  Many people don't want to believe that there is right and wrong, that there is light and darkness.  Even those who are trying to pretend that there is no side to choose and that right and wrong do not exist will be choosing one or the other.

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yellowsub U4 eee aaa Tue, 03/06/2018 - 21:26 Permalink

As if a God who is so powerful to have created the everything needs constant praise and worship from the specks of dust on planet Earth.  That doesn't sound like a powerful being more like today's millennial.

Find a religion of God that is not of worship and find your own truth through experience and life not what someone is telling you from manipulated text. 

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Kidbuck Tue, 03/06/2018 - 17:37 Permalink

This is what happens when leftists take away the old conservative norms. Pedofilia,  I've known it was wrong long before I could understand why it was wrong. When you believe in multiculturalism, by definition, you believe in everything and anything.

Jon_Locke Kidbuck Tue, 03/06/2018 - 17:42 Permalink

Its really entertaining when you ask one what do they base their morals on and they say "well society", then you point out the pedophilia is perfectly accepted in some societies Afghanistan as one example, and tribes in Africa is common place. Then they try to back track, ah, but ah. This proves the flaw in that way of thinking.

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