Jeff Gundlach: "The Situation Is Set To Explode In 2019"

At the Strategic Investment Conference 2018, Jeff Gundlach said that we’re at a "moment of truth" that could break either way. So, now is not the time to have high conviction about the economy or markets. Showing a chart of the US budget deficit as percent of GDP, Gundlach warned investors about rising deficit without a recession.

Jeff Gundlach at Strategic Investment Conference

The deficit combined with with the Fed’s balance sheet roll-off, will mean $2–$3 trillion in new Treasury issuance. Gundlach thinks this "situation is set to explode in 2019" and also sees net tightening starting next year, adding that the market is starting to realize it. As such, sentiment is shifting. On housing, Gundlach says the fundamentals look “pretty darn bad” as mortgage rates start to rise.

All Indicators Point to Higher Inflation

Later Gundlach moved on to inflation. He said there are two key parts of inflation: core services and core good. And there’s a big disparity between the two in the US. However, the core CPI in the US is trending up. We’re also seeing rising inflation in Germany and Japan Further, Gundlach pointed out that there is a high correlation between core CPI and future GDP. A very high correlation between core CPI and ISM PMI also suggests a higher CPI ahead.

Bottom line: All of Gundlach’s indicators point to higher inflation.

Also, just like David Rosenberg the day before, he finds it comical that the Fed has been trying to get to 2% inflation, yet we are already there. So, if inflation does go higher, the question is not how it affects the economy, it’s how the markets will react to it.

Emerging Markets Look Promising

Gundlach then turned to emerging markets. In comparison to emerging markets, he noted, the PE ratio of the S&P 500 is at sky-high levels. Which means that either sales must take off or stock prices must come down (once the buybacks end of course).

He showed that the CAPE ratio for emerging markets (EM) is about half that of the S&P 500. It’s very likely that the ratios will eventually converge. That means EMs will go up, and the US will come down.

Over the past year, EMs have outperformed the US while Europe has underperformed. Gundlach thinks Europe and world markets are cheap now.

The Dollar Is Likely to Go Down

Gundlach also touched on the US dollar. He showed that dollar bull and bear cycles last about seven years. By this measure, he thinks the dollar is headed lower. If we look at a longer-term chart, the dollar sits right on a major support level. Will it hold?

The opposite is seen in gold price charts. Gold has been building a base for years, and is bumping up against a critical level. If it breaks out, it could begin a new gold rally.

As he has shown recently during his DoubleLine webcasts, Gundlach brought a series of charts showing that various asset classes have broken through crucial trend lines. In particular, he made a hard call on the long bond market, and gave us a line in the sand above which he says the bond bull market is over.

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