Illinois' Regressive Pension-Funding Scheme Exposed

Authored by Ted Dabrowski and John Klinger via,

Illinois’ regressive pension funding scheme: wealthiest school districts benefit most

Most Illinoisans don’t know Dr. Ray Lechner, the retiring Superintendent of Wilmette School District 39, but they should.

After all, Illinoisans have been contributing to his upcoming $6.6 million pension for years, even though he’s an employee of the Wilmette school district, not the state.

That’s how it works for all teachers and administrators in Illinois, whether it’s a superintendent from Lake Forest or a school counselor from Mt. Vernon – school districts pay the salaries while the state funds the pensions.

It’s this kind of arrangement, where one unit of government doles out the benefits while another one pays for them, which makes Illinois so dysfunctional.

It’s a scheme that allows districts to spend more money on salaries and perks than they otherwise would.

Wilmette SD 39, for example, can grant Lechner an annual compensation of more than $300,000 and give teachers automatic 5 percent raises for five years before retirement because its budget isn’t burdened by the resulting pension costs.

The current arrangement needs to end. It has destroyed accountability and driven up pension benefits, leading to higher property and income taxes on struggling Illinoisans.

And it’s regressive. The state funding of teacher pensions works against the goal of ensuring every school district receives an adequate amount of education funding. Wealthy districts – like those on the North Shore – benefit far more from the state’s pension payments than poor districts do.

And as pension costs eat up more and more of education funding, districts like East St. Louis and other property poor districts struggle to maintain adequate funding levels for education.

Illinois must shift the cost and the responsibility of teacher pensions to where they belong: school districts.

Unfortunately, a group of legislators led by Rep. David McSweeney (R-Barrington Hills) is blocking any cost shift to districts. McSweeney claims that a shift will lead to higher property taxes.

But, ironically, the current arrangement he clings to has already driven up – and continues to drive up – taxes in Illinois.

What’s wrong with the current system

Imagine a group of friends celebrating at a restaurant. It’s one of those dinners where the final bill is to be split evenly among everybody.

You can bet the cost of the celebration will run much higher than if each person had paid their own bill separately. That’s because everyone has an incentive to splurge on steak and beers if the bill is going to be split evenly. And if one person orders an expensive drink, you can be sure the others will follow suit.

Said another way, nobody wants to be the sucker ordering just a salad and tea. So the dinner becomes a free for all. And when the bill finally comes due, no one is individually accountable for the inflated cost.

That’s roughly how the Illinois pension system for teachers works today. There is no individual accountability for pension costs at the school district level. Instead, the current model is a shell game all Illinoisans are forced to finance.

Because the state pays for the collective pension costs that school districts create, every district can spend more than they otherwise would on their teachers’ pensionable salaries and benefits. And like the dinner party example above, that makes the collective pension bill much higher than if each district had to pay for its own costs.

The boosting of salaries and perks, and the willingness of politicians to overpromise pension benefits, has contributed to the wild growth of total benefits owed to teachers over the past several decades. As Wirepoints found in its recent report, pension benefits owed to teachers have grown 1,092 percent since 1987. That’s eight times more than Illinoisans’ household incomes (127 percent) and nearly ten times more than inflation (111 percent).

In 1987, total pension benefits owed to active teachers and retirees totaled just $9.9 billion. Today, that number has ballooned to $118.6 billion. That’s an increase of almost 9 percent each year for nearly 30 years.

Wealthier districts benefit the most from the current arrangement. They have higher paid employees and bigger education infrastructures, resulting in bigger pension costs. So when the state pays for each district’s pension costs, it’s the wealthiest districts that have the most to gain from not having to pay their own way.

Winners and losers

To see who’s winning and losing from the current pension funding scheme, look at the table below.

It shows the amount of income taxes the state doles out to the teacher pension fund on behalf of districts, measured on a per-student basis.

The scheme benefits the wealthiest school districts because they have the highest pensions. Districts like Rondout, Sunset Ridge and New Trier – all on the North Shore – benefit by more than $1,000 per student.

In contrast, districts with less wealth and lower teacher pensions benefit much less. Districts like Central City, Crab Orchard and Bradford receive less than $300 in state pension support when measured on a per student basis.

As a result, Rondout, one of the wealthiest and highest spending school districts in the state, gets six times more, on a per student basis, than Bradford CUSD 1 does.

That’s not surprising. Not only is teacher and administrative pay much higher at Rondout, but it has far more teachers and administrators on a per student basis than Bradford. All those staffing differences create far higher compensation costs, resulting in a far larger per-student pension subsidy for Rondout.

The North Shore splurge

It’s easy to see why districts in Chicago’s suburbs benefit the most. Take the New Trier High School area for example, where Dr. Lechner is the superintendent of Wilmette SD 39, one of the high school’s elementary feeder districts.

New Trier has six different K-8 school districts that feed into it. And that means lots of superintendents, assistant superintendents, district employees and pensions.

The seven total superintendents are among the highest compensated school employees in the state. Each receive compensation packages ranging from $210,000 to $360,000 annually, according to the Illinois State Board of Education’s (ISBE) salary database.

That means those who end up working a full career in Illinois’ public schools will receive lifetime pension benefits of $5 to $9 million, depending on their final years of service and age at retirement.

Trisha Kocanda, the superintendent at Winnetka SD 36, is only 41. If she gets 2 percent raises every year she’ll be earning a pensionable salary of $390,000 by the time she’s 60. If she retires at that point, she’ll get about $9.6 million in pension benefits over the course of her retirement.

The top 15 retirees across the New Trier area already expect to receive $5 million to $8 million in pension benefits during their retirement. Dr. Lechner and his $6.6 million expected pension will join the list when he retires next year.

It’s not just the superintendent costs that matter. District office staffs are expensive, too. In total, New Trier area district staffers receive average salaries of $92,000 and cost over $1,000 per student. And that doesn’t include pensions and other benefit costs. For those staffers who become career employees, they can expect, on average, pensions in the $2 to $4 million range.

In total, 136 district office administrators work in the seven separate New Trier district offices. Many of those positions – from bookkeeping to technology to HR – are duplicative and can be consolidated.

But it’s teacher salaries that drive the bulk of the pension funding that the New Trier districts benefit from. Those districts spent an average of $90,900 in salaries per teacher in 2017. That’s 41 percent more than the statewide average of $64,500.

Those salaries translate directly to higher pension benefits. The average, recently-retired career teacher in Illinois – those with 30-plus years – can expect to collect $2.4 million in pension benefits. In contrast, a New Trier area career teacher will collect $3.5 million, based on member data from a 2018 FOIA request to TRS.

Downstate districts don’t have the wealth found on the North Shore and other well-off areas in the Chicago suburbs. They can’t support the same teacher salary base, costly administrations and district infrastructures. In fact, ISBE data shows about 90 percent of the unit districts in Illinois are located outside of Cook and the collar counties.

Less wealthy districts may still pay their teachers more than they would without the state’s pension subsidy, but they don’t have the local funding to push salaries – and therefore, pensions – to the same levels as their North Shore counterparts.


It’s important to acknowledge the contributions that residents in wealthy school districts make to Illinois education through the income taxes they pay. The zipcodes of the wealthy districts are where a majority of state income tax dollars come from – which in turn fund the bulk of the state’s general aid to education. Their tax dollars are supposed to ensure districts like East St. Louis, which have very limited property wealth, reach the state’s goal of adequate funding.

But the state’s scheme for funding teacher pensions runs at cross purposes with that goal. The state takes in income taxes contributed by all areas of the state, whether wealthy or not, and then sends much of those dollars right back to wealthy areas in the form of pension subsidies. And since nearly 50 percent of state’s total budget appropriations to education have gone to teacher pensions in recent years, those subsidies matter.

More state money going to pensions means less money for districts in need, everything else equal.

Why this matters

Shifting the cost of pensions to school districts is not a new proposal. Politicians from both sides of the aisle, including Gov. Bruce Rauner and House Speaker Mike Madigan, have supported the idea in the past. In fact, the governor recently proposed a pension cost shift in his latest budget.

Under his plan, the employer pension contributions for teachers would shift to local school districts over a four-year period. In total, about $1 billion in costs would gradually be shifted to local districts over the next few years. In other words, in the absence of any other reforms or pay freezes, each district’s payroll costs would rise by about 2.5 percent a year.

To be clear, the shift would only include the “normal” cost of pensions – the benefits generated by a teacher working one additional year. The state would retain the responsibility of paying down the billions in pension debt that accumulated over the past few decades.

But there are lawmakers like Rep. McSweeney, who oppose the shift. McSweeney warns that a shift will result in property tax hikes across the state. To that end, he’s gotten more than 60 legislators together to sign a resolution opposing any shift.

The fact that McSweeney approached the Illinois Education Association to garner support for his resolution should tell Illinoisans all they need to know.

The IEA likes the state’s subsidy of pensions because it hides the true cost of education from Illinoisans. And they love the oversized salaries, perks and benefits that come with that lack of transparency. They don’t care about the high property taxes Illinoisans’ have to pay to provide those benefits.

McSweeney’s got it all wrong. The current non-transparent arrangement is not only unfair, but it’s precisely what’s contributed to Illinoisans paying the highest property taxes in the nation and a new 32 percent income tax hike.

Here’s how the current system raises taxes on Illinoisans:

  • It allows districts to pay higher salaries than they otherwise would. The current scheme fuels excessive salaries because districts don’t bear the cost of the resulting pensions. Like in the dinner celebration example above, districts can end up spending far more than they would have had they borne their own costs.

  • It encourages districts to give out pension-boosting perks. Districts can hand out end-of-career salary spikes, unused sick leave benefits and masters bumps because, again, districts don’t bear the resulting pension costs.

  • It crowds out general state aid and drives up both income and property taxes. As pensions overwhelm the state’s total education budget, that leaves less general state aid for all school districts, everything else equal. With pensions consuming nearly 50 percent of state education appropriations, school districts have had to raise property taxes to make up the difference. And the state has hiked incomes taxes in large part to pay for skyrocketing pension costs.

The cost shift must be paired with many reforms

A cost-shift will end the dysfunction in education funding caused by the state’s subsidy of pensions. It will bring down pension costs over time by forcing districts to moderate the salaries and perks they provide. And it will end the regressive nature of the scheme.

But in the short term, can the cost shift lead to the property tax hikes McSweeney warned about?

Not if local residents reject them and demand lawmakers like McSweeney enact reforms.

With Illinoisans already paying the nation’s highest property taxes, they don’t owe their local governments another penny. In fact, local governments owe their residents sizable property tax relief.

Illinoisans have every right to reject tax hikes and demand reforms instead. Those reforms can offset not only any immediate costs of a shift, but they can also bring down local government costs to levels taxpayers can afford.

Illinoisans should demand their lawmakers:

Require teachers to pay their fair share toward their own pensions. Many school districts pay each teacher’s required pension contribution, called a “pick-up,” as a fringe benefit, costing school districts $380 million per year. As a result, teachers in over half of Illinois school districts pay nothing toward their own pensions. This reform alone will cover nearly 40 percent of the pension cost shift.

End pension-boosting perks like the accumulation of unused sick leave and the automatic four- to five-year salary bumps that many teachers get at the end of their careers. Strip those kinds of items from the collective bargaining process. Nobody in the private sector gets those kinds of perks.

Consolidate school district administrations, starting with combining all elementary and high school districts into unit districts. And to ensure costs don’t spike, block the merger of teacher contracts in the newly created districts.

Stop giving unions the right to strike whenever they don’t get their way. Illinois is the only state among its neighbors to enshrine a teachers union’s ability to strike. That gives the union too much power over the very people that pay for their services.

And of course, there are much bigger structural reforms, from amending the constitution to allowing for local bankruptcy to rolling out the university system’s 401(k)-style plan for new teachers, that are all needed to begin an end to Illinois’ pension crisis.

All of the above can result in lower property taxes for Illinoisans.

McSweeney knows that. He shouldn’t be standing with the Illinois Education Association and defending the non-transparent, tax-driving status quo. Instead, he should be leading the effort to pass many of the reforms, including the cost shift, that will bring Illinois property taxes down.

And if McSweeney is looking for support from the education bureaucracy itself, there are officials that realize Illinois needs to change.

Dr. Lechner is one such official.

Dr. Lechner supports district consolidation at New Trier. He believes New Trier should be merged into a single, 12,000-student unit district. He admits that the 3-percent COLA benefit is too generous relative to inflation. And he also supports the pension cost shift.

Which brings us all the way back to his retirement benefits. If Wilmette residents had to pay the true cost of his compensation, perhaps Dr. Lechner wouldn’t be getting $6.6 million in pension benefits.

Of course, Wilmette residents might still be willing to pay that much. But at least with the cost shift in place, all Illinoisans wouldn’t have to foot the bill.

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Justin Case Sun, 03/11/2018 - 15:55 Permalink

This never happens to Gov't pensioners. They always get theirs, which is about ten times what you'll get after working 45 years. They are allowed 100% pension benefits after a grueling 5 yrs of service. Not to mentions the millions they stashed away with the Carlyle Group. People are real suckers believing there's no money for pensions. Not for the productive contributors to the economy, just to those that contributed squat to productivity and reaped a fortune in Gov't have pensions. 

Opt out? Haahahaha. Don't think so, the Gov'ts need their pensions for their lavish life style off yoar backs. Same as it ever was.

If consumers have no money, the GDP declines. The last decade has created moar millionaires in murica than it's entire history. You feelin rich too? Prob not, with wages at 1999 levels. The money went to the top.

yogibear TBT or not TBT Sun, 03/11/2018 - 17:41 Permalink

Yep, HS teachers and Administrators are making insane money in Illinois.

If you try and reduce the pensions or pay they'll com storming with massive teacher union strikes and protests.

They'll point to being exceptional because of the state constitution protecting their schemes. School districts know they can always raise property taxes. 


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Expendable Container JRobby Sun, 03/11/2018 - 16:44 Permalink

"All Fraud, All the Time...All Crime All The Time"

$50 trillion has been stolen from Americans by the Deep State including pension funds:

The fraud has been exposed by Catherine Austin Fitts - the so-called Deep State (mega-criminal international bankers) is siphoning out the pension funds. These funds would have PLENTY of money if not for these Parasites:

'We are Financing what is Killing Us!':

"Financial expert and investment advisor Catherine Austin has a brand new report out on how America’s pensions are being drained by the Federal Government and Deep State. Fitts, who was an Assistant Secretary of Housing in the Bush (41) Administration, says, “The reason why we did the pension fund study is because if we are going to stop the corruption, you have to stop our money being used to finance the corruption. So, you and I have to make sure our money is not financing the thing that’s killing us, and that’s what’s going on."

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glenlloyd Expendable Container Sun, 03/11/2018 - 16:55 Permalink

The situation in IL is going to get a lot worse before these people get their 'millions' out of the pension system.

At some point the people will classify these 'benefits' as an onerous burden on private individuals and they'll turn the spigot off.

The big question I have is who the hell agreed to these things to begin with? Let me guess, some government lacky was at the table when these were agreed to and signed off on them. Of course no one with a vested interest in keeping the payouts reasonable was there to protest, i.e. no one whose wallet is funding these jokes.


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Buckaroo Banzai glenlloyd Sun, 03/11/2018 - 17:00 Permalink

"Imagine a group of friends celebrating at a restaurant. It’s one of those dinners where the final bill is to be split evenly among everybody."

Yeah, sorry, that's not really the appropriate analogy, is it? Try this:

Imagine a group of friends celebrating at a restaurant. It's one of those dinners where the final bill is to be split evenly amongst a few million strangers who don't even get to dine at the restaurant.


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rgraf JoseyWalesTheOutlaw Sun, 03/11/2018 - 20:05 Permalink

ou have absolutely no proof whatsoever that even a single ballot was ever counted. The system was rigged from the start. Illinois, like every other state in the union, is a republic. A republic is rule of the elite, and the function of a republic is to thwart democracy. The notion of a democratic republic is nothing but political doublespeak. No republic was ever democratically chosen. And once the republic is installed, two parties form, to ensure the barriers to entry into the pork barrel gravy train is limited to the elite. The argument is that the populace is too uneducated to make any political decisions, but they are somehow smart enough to know who to elect. These elite run the 'education' system, and have for decades, yet they have failed to educate the electorate to the point that they can make the decisions for themselves. They have failed the populace, and it's time to get rid of the notion that the elite will put the needs of thew populace above the greed of the elite. This is how the elite act, and political correctness is nothing but 'confusion of the tongue' to prevent the citizens from calling politicians what they truly are: the worst group of liars on the planet.

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DocBerg glenlloyd Sun, 03/11/2018 - 18:55 Permalink

What this will eventually prove is that Full Faith and Credit is an illusion.  There are real limits to how much people can be effectively taxed.  In most of Illinois, the state taxpayers pay the employer portion of the pension withholding, and the local taxpayers pony up the employee portion.  Add to this the fact that Chicago has sucked the rest of the state dry financially, and still cannot get enough to fund their public pensions, and you get the picture of the upcoming disaster.  The only solvent Illinois public pension fund is the Illinois Municipal Retirement Fund.  I get a very modest pension from them for my city administration career.  When I was hired as an adjunct at my Alma Mater, I made sure to get in the self-managed fund from the State University Retirement System.  So, I get annuity payments from TIAA-CREF.  My gamble was that I would have to last long enough to get vested, and then the state of Illinois had to put in their share by federal law.  I managed that, and retired about 3 years ago.  


This state is fiscally doomed and the only reason I am still living in Illinois is that my aged father could not survive a move.

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All Risk No Reward Expendable Container Mon, 03/12/2018 - 11:14 Permalink

>>$50 trillion has been stolen from Americans by the Deep State including pension funds:<<

Precisely define Deep State - and name names as to who is calling the shots and controlling the "Deep State."

Can you?

I'll tell you - it is the Money Power Monopolists... the FINANCIER CONTROLLERS of the Deep State.

And if you think EMPLOYEES are walking away with trillions, you are mistaken.

The Money Power Monopolists and their Mega-Corporate fronts are siphoning almost all of it for the benefit of the Money Power Monopolists.

You've been programmed to use vague terms that appeal to individual imaginations...  Others have been trained to only respond to vague terms that appeal to individual imaginations.

New World Order, Deep State, Illuminati...

How about a precise name - Supranational Money Power Monopolist Global Mega-Corporate Fascist Empire?

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All Risk No Reward Justin Case Mon, 03/12/2018 - 11:18 Permalink

>>They fuck their own over.<<

Not as often as you imagine, probably because you've been duped into incorrectly defining "their own."

No ordinary people on planet Earth are considered the Money Power Monopolist's "own."

None.  Not even Jews in Israel, who they oppress with the same debt-money system they inflict on everyone else under their authoritarian monetary control.

"The issue which has swept down the centuries and which will have to be fought sooner or later is the [ordinary] people versus the [Money Power Monopolist controllers of] banks."
~Lord Acton

“When a government is dependent upon bankers for money, they and not the leaders of the government control the situation, since the hand that gives is above the hand that takes. Money has no motherland; financiers are without patriotism and without decency; their sole object is gain.”
~Napoleon Bonaparte

"Let the American (or Israeli!!!) people go into their debt-funding schemes and banking systems, and from that hour their boasted independence will be a mere phantom."
~William Pitt, (referring to the inauguration of the first National Bank in the United States under Alexander Hamilton).

“The new law will create inflation whenever the trusts want inflation. From now on depressions will be scientifically created.”
~Congressman Charles A. Lindbergh, after the passage of the Federal Reserve act 1913.

“The one aim of these financiers is world control by the creation of inextinguishable debt.”
~Henry Ford

“History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling money and its issuance.”
~James Madison

“In our time, the curse is monetary illiteracy, just as inability to read plain print was the curse of earlier centuries.”
~Ezra Pound

How To Be a Crook

Poverty - Debt Is Not a Choice

"The greatest shortcoming of the human race is its inability to understand the exponential function."
~Professor Albert Bartlett

The Crash Course - Chapter 3 - Exponential Growth

The Crash Course - Chapter 4 - Compounding Is The Problem

Renaissance 2.0 The Rise of [Debt-Money Monopolist] Financial Empire

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GUS100CORRINA Justin Case Sun, 03/11/2018 - 16:02 Permalink

Illinois' Regressive Pension-Funding Scheme Exposed

My response: More PROGRESSIVE LIBERAL POLICE STATE rotten fruit.

These PROGRESSIVE LIBERAL DESPOTS will stop at nothing to destroy what is left of the republic and America in general.

Going forward, WE THE PEOPLE need to vote every single DEMOCRAT OUT OF OFFICE in the upcoming 2018 midterm election. The DEMOCRATS are the CANCER in AMERICA and we need to eradicate the CANCER from the land.

Patriots of Illinois, you need to choose candidates who will be most helpful to the POTUS and his #MAGA agenda. IL ... MAKE IT HAPPEN THIS FALL. 

Choose wisely America, for the DAYS ARE EVIL and there is NOT a SINGLE DEMOCRAT who should be left standing.

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Justin Case Four Star Sun, 03/11/2018 - 16:38 Permalink

Phuckin great news for the working stiff. Phuk the corporatocracy. They left for China and shit in yoar tin cup that yoar family feeds from.

Oh there's no money and socialism = very bad, yes very very bad, cause that means I can't afford a 16,000 sq/ft home, a yacht and a private jet to fly me to my home in France, and drink Dom Pérignon, while smoking a Cohiba on the balcony over looking the French Riviera. It's a rough life, but socialism would ruin all that for me. I'd have less money to burn if I paid people a fair wage and or gave them pensions. I can't imagine what the Wife would do if the Nannies had to go with the 10 cars and the chauffeur. She'd leave me for sure.

Pensions are a very bad idea, besides there's no money for that.

The have yachts and the have nots. Lets keep it that way. It's the murican way.

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Justin Case HRH of Aquitaine 2.0 Sun, 03/11/2018 - 17:40 Permalink

Why don’t mericans want a more social democratic federal government? Several reasons, but they mainly flow around one theme: complete distrust of politicians.

The government already has more than enough money to do everything the government is supposed to do for citizens, if the politicians actually spent the money the right way. But they don’t. They never do.
Because Government programs almost always:
        waste a lot of money.
        don’t solve the problem they were designed to solve.
        create different problems in the process.
        require never-ending expansions in funding.
        never complete their task.
Socialism punishes success.
For example, every public college in Illinois gets some funding from state taxpayers. The schools use that funding to provide grants for students. That is, poor or minority students mostly. Other students will have to pay more than many other in-state students for a state college that their parents have also been paying for via taxes for the last 18 years.
In other words, socialism often forces the successful/affluent to pay for services that they themselves don’t get to take advantage of.
For many, socialism is more about bringing down those who have more than you, rather than lifting yourself up.

Additionally, the US is very large and culturally diverse. Socialism works best with smaller or more homogenous countries, OR with a very authoritarian government forcing those large, diverse cultures to work together (or get shot, really). European-style democratic socially requires a willful, for forced, annexing of some individual liberties by the government.

Many Americans are more receptive to democratic socialism on the local level. If a city wants to raise taxes to fund a new service for people in the city, people would be more likely to support it because the local government is more accountable to citizens, and it would be easier to catch wasteful spending.

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inosent GUS100CORRINA Sun, 03/11/2018 - 17:12 Permalink

i think you missed the part in the above article that a republican was supporting state funding of local pensions.

The issue is big govt, counterfeit money and ppl getting a free ride. Abolish property tax, income tax and have parents teach their own kids, or pay for someone qualified to assist them.

That will result in a collapse of the systemic massive waste and bloat, not to mention state control over the crap the schools are manadted to shove down the student's and parent's throat.

That is not an R/D issue. The govt is a sham, run by low life con men and theives. They steal your money to create a world you hate to live in. 'voting' wont help.

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Justin Case GUS100CORRINA Sun, 03/11/2018 - 17:57 Permalink

Switzerland and the United States have been named as the two main players in international tax evasion, corruption, fraud and money laundering, according to a new report which also calls on the United Nations to spearhead a global effort to halt these illegal practices.

Criminals are in charge and whether left wing or right wing, they are wings of the same bird.

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directaction Sun, 03/11/2018 - 15:56 Permalink

What awful social parasites. 

But it’s typical of people from the disgusting state of Illinois.

I’v only met one person from Illinois who I liked and she is a good friend from East St. Louis. 

Oldguy05 Sun, 03/11/2018 - 15:59 Permalink

The official state motto of Illinois is "State Sovereignty, National Union."

Seems to me they don't live up to that very well.

edit: Well, maybe the State Sovereignty part....Screw you...the state is sovereign, not you.

NVTRIC Sun, 03/11/2018 - 16:00 Permalink

Realize how your parents and grandparents raised you, and realize these fucks run everything.  To watch people take from their own offspring... Why in the hell did you have children? To parasite off of them?


This is truly the real definition of the snake eating its own tail.  There.  All of life's secrets revealed.  Tada!

Justin Case NVTRIC Sun, 03/11/2018 - 16:50 Permalink

Why in the hell did you have children?

It's back filling. These people are too stupid to figure out that they are creating a world for their future off spring that may be victims of policies they support/create and/or enforce. Who knows 2 or 3 generations from now how the seeds they've sown affect their families.

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Seasmoke Sun, 03/11/2018 - 16:26 Permalink

There is NO reason any public parasites should be given health benefits for life and pensions paid by taxpayers who can't even afford to save for their retirements. End all public unions immediately !!!

Justin Case Seasmoke Sun, 03/11/2018 - 17:14 Permalink

"taxpayers who can't even afford to save for their retirements." Then take their pensions on top of it.

The system is rigged and you ain't part of that class that rigs it.

Don't bring down fellow slaves to yoar level b/c you have shit income.

Point fingers at these guys. Yoar all in the same dingy fighting over pennies with each other, while the real thieves are robbing you. The Gov't loves the corporatocracy because they are part of it and you ain't. Don't phuck yoar own kind over pennies. That is exactly what the coporatocracy wants. Bickering of the masses between themselves over scraps while they live in outrageous decadence that 10 generations of yoar family will never earn, what they earn a year. The corporatocracy laughs at people like you, ya you go get'm boy! Take yoar fellow slave down wit ya. 

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