Russia Threatens Military Action Against US If Washington Strikes Syria

While mystery still surrounds the statement by now-former Secretary of State Rex Tillerson who on Monday - when he already knew he was fired - said that Moscow is "clearly" behind the poisoning of Russian double-agent Skripal in the UK and that the Russian action would "trigger a response", and whether this was a tacit defiance of Trump as he no longer had anything to lose, it is clear that relations between Russia and the US, if not so much Trump, are once again at rock bottom, if not worse.

Confirming this, one week after the WaPo reported that the US is considering new military action against Syria over Assad's alleged chemical weapons attacks (as on every other prior occasion), the Russian military threatened action against the U.S. if it strikes Syria's capital city of Damascus.  The threat, by Chief of Russia's General Staff Valery Gerasimov, was reported by Russia media sites such as state news agencies  RIA and Tass, according to CNBC

Chief of the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces, General Valery Gerasimov

The General also said Russia had "reliable information" about militants preparing to falsify a government chemical attack against civilians. In other words, another US-false flag attack, like the one launched in 2013 which nearly caused military conflict between Russia and the US.

Gerasimov predicted that the U.S. would then use this attack to accuse Syrian government troops of using chemical weapons. He added that the U.S. would then plan to launch a missile strike on government districts in Damascus.

"In several districts of Eastern Ghouta, a crowd was assembled with women, children and old people, brought from other regions, who were to represent the victims of the chemical incident, " Gerasimov said, according to RIA.

But far more ominously, Gerasimov said Russia would respond to a U.S. strike on Syria if the lives of Russian servicemen were threatened, targeting any missiles and launchers involved: "In case there is a threat to the lives of our military, the Russian Armed Force will take retaliatory measures both over the missiles and carriers that will use them," the Russian General said.

The comments come as Syrian President Bashar Al Assad's regime, which is supported by Russia, continues to carry out airstrikes over the rebel-held enclave of Eastern Ghouta just outside Damascus, and where the US has alleged Assad has again used chemical weapons.

The United Nations Security Council had demanded a ceasefire in Syria two weeks ago; on Monday, the U.S. threatened to "act if we must" if the UN ceasefire resolution continues to be ignored. U.S. Ambassador to the UN, Nikki Hailey, said Monday that the U.S. was drafting a new ceasefire resolution with "no room for evasion" and warned the country was prepared to act.

"It is not the path we prefer, but it is a path we have demonstrated we will take, and we are prepared to take again," Haley told the UN Security Council on Monday. "When the international community consistently fails to act, there are times when states are compelled to take their own action," she added.

Meanwhile, the Syrian proxy civil war, in which the U.S. and other allies have supported "moderate" rebel groups to topple the Assad regime under the pretext of fighting ISIS, goes on: the war is also seen as a battle for influence between Russia and the West in the Middle East. As ISIS' influence has waned and rebel-held locations reclaimed, Assad has regained the upper hand in Syria, and so has Russia.

This is why the US has been increasingly eager to provoke Russia.

Still, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said Tuesday that establishing more deescalation zones in Syria was not a priority for now, Reuters reported. He told reporters that it was important to prevent violation of ceasefire agreements in eastern Ghouta, a situation which he planned to discuss with Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu who is on a visit to Moscow.

Finally, if the US does indeed pursue military action against Syria using the worn out "chemical attack" false flag, and if Russia does indeed retaliate against US warships in the region, remember to go all in stocks, because nothing is quite as bullish - to Keynesians - as World War III.

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Looney Tue, 03/13/2018 - 10:20 Permalink

 

Our top brass has been very cavalier with threats, but the Russian top generals are always very careful with what they say and how they say it.  I just searched for “Valery Gerasimov” and found that he’s been quoted only TWO times in 2017 and 2018.

So, if the Chief of Russia's General Staff says “we will take out any missiles and LAUNCHERS involved in an attack on Syria”, I’d take it seriously.

Looney

???ö? Looney Tue, 03/13/2018 - 10:24 Permalink

Again. How many emmigrant "Russians" (once "refuseniks") now live in Israel or the USA?

And why would two Russian Jews be so knowledgable about who made the Novichok toxin:

"Extremely potent fourth-generation chemical weapons were developed in the Soviet Union and Russia from the 1970s until the early 1990s, according to a publication by two chemists, Lev Fedorov and Vil Mirzayanov in Moskovskiye Novosti weekly in 1992."

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Klassenfeind BaBaBouy Tue, 03/13/2018 - 10:56 Permalink

Memo to all you ZH Trump fanboys and "MAGA" idiots: https://www.rt.com/usa/377492-cia-deputy-torture-lawsuit/

"She was one of the top intelligence officers to take part in the worst alleged abuses of Bush-era interrogation program, which renowned rights groups bluntly describe as a set of torture techniques."

Installing somebody from the Bush-era as head of the CIA = "draining the swamp?"

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Ramesees eforce Tue, 03/13/2018 - 11:59 Permalink

Consistently amused at the support for the Russians on these threads. 

 

The Russian military is considerably inferior to the US. Russia's people are literally dying - lowest low fertility rate, from which no society has ever recovered. A corrupt oligopoly run by Vladimir Putin.

That is only to say, I'm not concerned with Russia at all. Russia can do whatever it wants - if it gets in our way we will simply step on them. 

 

They must protect their interests - and more power to them! Every nation must protect its own interests. 

 

Like Don Corleone said, "I want to congratulate you on your new business. I'm sure you'll do very well, and good luck to you. Especially since your interests don't conflict with mine. Thank you."

 

The US doesn't care what Russia does with Syria - we will simply do what we need to do and wipe out a brigade if you get too close to our operations :)

 

 

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strannick besnook Tue, 03/13/2018 - 13:13 Permalink

Of course Isreal/America cares what Russia does in Syria. Syria is a gas line/water source that cannot exist.

Americas cared about Syria since Syria Iraq Iran announced their pipeline in 2014. Soverign nations conducting business outside America Isreals Satanic system cannot be condined.

God bless Vladamuir Putin..and Trump

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Algo Rhythm bonin006 Tue, 03/13/2018 - 15:36 Permalink

"The US Military spends more money.... should have read, "The US military borrows more money to support the over bloated top heavy military industrial complex and black budgets, than the next 6 put together".

Everyone talks about government spending when it is really government borrowing, it makes a difference doesn't it?

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Big Creek Rising bonin006 Tue, 03/13/2018 - 16:09 Permalink

"What they get for the money = ?"

1.  Funky looking boats (Zumwalt) with real cool guns that they can't shoot because ammo costs $800,000 per round (nobody could make up that number)

2.  Two more aircraft carriers soon to be neutered by Chicom and Russian hypersonic weapons

this list goes on; just think:  what could they buy if the Pentagon found the $3+ trillion that Rumsfeld lost!  

But they can't, so...

   ...the Pentagon needs moar money!

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Shift For Brains Ramesees Tue, 03/13/2018 - 13:58 Permalink

I think I saw a picture of your father at the Battle of Leningrad. He was in the Egyptian USO, entertaining the troops.

I was in the Soviet Union on business several times in the 1970s. Their high school equivalent kids used to ferociously compete to be the ones who stood still for hours on end as honor guards at monuments for the Russians who died defending the Motherland in WWII.

We better have plenty of very effective stand-off weapons because in close quarter one-on-one they would make mincemeat out of American troops.

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OverTheHedge Ramesees Tue, 03/13/2018 - 14:42 Permalink

At the risk of being labelled a Putin lover: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Russia

The number of Russians living in poverty has decreased by 50% since the economic crisis following the disintegration of the Soviet Union, and the improving economy had a positive impact on the country's low birth rate. The latter rose from its lowest point of 8.27 births per 1000 people in 1999 to 13.3 per 1000 in 2014. Likewise, the fertility rate rose from its lowest point of 1.157 in 1999 to 1.777 in 2015. 2007 marked the highest growth in birth rates that the country had seen in 25 years, and 2009 marked the highest total birth rate since 1991.[21

So if Russia CAN come back from what you claim no society has ever recovered from, then perhaps some of the other claims you make without any proof are equally as suspect. Up until now Russia has been astonishingly reserved, but it seems obvious that at some point they will have to fight back. I doubt that their response will be as small, measured and reserved as you would hope, so once again the mighty US can conquer all. To paraphrase the Blues Brothers (actually The Good Old Boys), it's hard to project power with no fucking aircraft carriers.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CA3pxVj4F7M

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LaugherNYC OverTheHedge Tue, 03/13/2018 - 15:57 Permalink

What are youq smoking and where do you get your stats? Russia’s economy was in the toilet along with birth rates and demographics though the late-aughts, when they began to bottom out and recover slightly The global economic recovery after the crisis has lifted Russia along with it out of the sewer, but it is certainly far from healthy. Putin’s aggressive, expansionist policies have severely damaged the staggering bear, with Western sanctions after the Crimean adventure knocking old Ursa on her vodka-infused ass. 

 

In the past 18 months, dramatic downward spikes in every measure of economic and demograhic health have threatened to push Russia off the cliff of despair,as nascent  uptrends have been quashed by the consequences of Putin’s adventurous, dangerous policies of personal consolidation. Western sanctions have taken the steam out of the Russian recovery, and left behind a smokin mess.

Look elsewhere than the easily manipulated farce that is Wiki, and try some sources that aren’t controlled by the trolls at IRA :-P. 

http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/10/19/western-sanctions-are-shrinking-rus…

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BarkingCat LaugherNYC Tue, 03/13/2018 - 19:03 Permalink

Considering (((who))) controls Wikipedia,  I seriously doubt that the slant there is pro-Russian.

That being said, I don't find those figures positive. 

While the birth rates have increased,  they are still below replacement rates.

Additionally,  the country is still suffering from corruption which is really what is keeping it down.

If Putin was serious about growing Russian economy, he would push through anti-corruption reforms so that entrepreneurship could flourish.  From little that I hear, if you start some business there are always some goons that want to take it over or a partnership  (protection racket).

That needs to be stumped out and hard.  On average Russians are more intelligent and better educated than Americans  (no certain groups to drag the average down), but there is too much holding them down.

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French Bloke Ramesees Tue, 03/13/2018 - 16:35 Permalink

I have to give you credit for your comedic value. Let's break this down, shall we:

  • "The Russian military is considerably inferior to the US" - We may get to put this to the test soon and see how much US firepower is destroyed if they try to bomb Damascus. Let's see shall we? The jury is out.
  • " Russia's people are literally dying - lowest low fertility rate..." - Same for European/Euro/Americans - except the Russians at least don't feel the need to import goat fuckers to bolster their dying population (if indeed it is). Again - jury out but their culture will outlast ours which will be a minority within 30 years.
  • " A corrupt oligopoly run by Vladimir Putin " - Correction, a corrupt oligopoly introduced by the USA via Boris Yeltsin in the 90's. Vladimir Putin is doing a bloody good job of ridding Russia of ((those)) oligarchs
  • " Russia can do whatever it wants - if it gets in our way we will simply step on them." - "We" being who? Israel? Or US lives lost in the pursuit of Greater Israel, more like...
  • " The US doesn't care what Russia does with Syria " - The US cares very much what Russia does with Syria. If the US have such big balls, why haven't they gone in all guns blazing whilst holding all those false flags high? All hot air. The US is a dying empire which means the actual people of the US might actually rid themselves of the warmongering jews that rule them one day

Not hard to spot a ((troll)) such is youself Schlomo...

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PorscheNoSub Ramesees Tue, 03/13/2018 - 18:41 Permalink

You were the first comment of this nature on this thread but not the only like it around here lately so you get this reply: Please do us all a favor and remove your head from your ass.

 

Just over a year ago 62% of all US Navy F-18s were out of service.

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/militarys-depleted-aircraft-wil…

 

53% of all US Navy aircraft could not fly. Ship maintenance doesn't sound much better.

https://www.defensenews.com/naval/2017/02/06/grounded-nearly-two-thirds…

 

Only 3 of 58 US Army brigade combat teams were ready for combat.

http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/the-us-military-really-bad-sh…

 

How does any of that sound superior to any large adversary, if any? There are numerous articles around 2006 that detailed how in just 3 years of operations in the Mideast the military was wearing equipment out faster than it could replace or repair it. Get real, man, and my tax dollars fund this nonsense, too. 

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BarkingCat PorscheNoSub Tue, 03/13/2018 - 19:26 Permalink

Sound like what it was when I was in the Army over 3 decades ago.

1 artillery section (team to operate 1 gun) was supposed to be 12 or 13 men (I cannot remember which).

I don't ever remember having more than 8 and most of the time we had 6.

There was a stretch of a few months that we were down to 4 guys and I remember going to the field a few times with only 3 guys.

The 50% level was true for the entire battalion. ....but honesty it was sufficient. All the jobs were covered by 6 guys just fine.

However, we had a very good section overall. Most of the others were not that good and I suspect that after I left and 2 other guys left, the proficiency dropped significantly. 

One of the replacements was a dindu whose IQ probably did not break 80.

This was one dumb, slow and lazy bastard.  

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Ace006 Ramesees Wed, 03/14/2018 - 02:25 Permalink

Mr. F-35 meet Mr. MANPAD and his friends. We don't belong in Syria and, for sure, not on Russia's borders. Let us shut up about bullshit, laughable U.S. "leadership" and quit the latest version of "muh dick."

Anything east of Gibraltar we leave to France, Germany, Britain, Russia, and the Italian <strike>Uber service</strike> navy.  Our troops shoot to kill anyone crossing our border.

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BobEore ???ö? Tue, 03/13/2018 - 11:51 Permalink

Gone missing from "the news" - as usual - is that IMMEDIATELY upon news of Tillersons' departure, a Turk prosecutor sought 'life imprisonment' for the American Andrew Brunson being held hostage for the return of most hated man Gulen.

As long as RT was in charge of State such sordid bargaining was not countenanced. His removal ... and the meeting currently between Turkey & Russian foreign ministers advances the premise that a cynical bargain may be worked out ... 'art  of the deal' style...

in which Drumpf dumps all legal precedent for a chance to score an 'Iran hostages' type of victory and defuse the tensions in north Syria. Any such deal would be used against him by his numerous enemies however, and be combined with various other waiting in the wings tricks to provide the 'final nail in the coffin' for the orange-haired Nero.

Whose nuts are in such a Nuttyahoo noose as to make OJ's famous gloves look several sizes too large.

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