Big Brother Arrives: China Bans People With "Bad Social Credit" From Planes, Trains

Two years ago, we reported that various cities throughout China are currently piloting a "social-credit system" that will assign a "personal citizen score" to every single person based on behavior such as spending habits, turnstile violations and filial piety.

Hangzhou’s local government is piloting a “social credit” system the Communist Party has said it wants to roll out nationwide by 2020, a digital reboot of the methods of social control the regime uses to avert threats to its legitimacy.

More than three dozen local governments across China are beginning to compile digital records of social and financial behavior to rate creditworthiness. A person can incur black marks for infractions such as fare cheating, jaywalking and violating family-planning rules. The effort echoes the dang’an, a system of dossiers the Communist party keeps on urban workers’ behavior.

In time, Beijing expects to draw on bigger, combined data pools, including a person’s internet activity, according to interviews with some architects of the system and a review of government documents.

Input data for the social credit system comes from a variety of government sources.

We warned at the time that this 'score' could be used to blacklist citizens from loans, jobs, or travel, for example.

Algorithms would use a range of data to calculate a citizen’s rating, which could then be used to determine all manner of activities, such as who gets loans, or faster treatment at government offices or access to luxury hotels.

So, imagine our shock, following China's massive censorship efforts over the last few weeks surrounding Xi's successful push to become emperor for life, when China said this week it will begin applying its so-called social credit system to flights and trains and stop people who have committed misdeeds from taking such transport for up to a year.

As Reuters reports,  people who would be put on the restricted lists included those found to have committed acts like spreading false information about terrorism and causing trouble on flights, as well as those who used expired tickets or smoked on trains, according to two statements issued on the National Development and Reform Commission’s website on Friday.

China has flagged plans to roll out a system that will allow government bodies to share information on its citizens’ trustworthiness and issue penalties based on a so-called social credit score.

However, there are signs that the use of social credit scoring on domestic transport could have started years ago.

In early 2017, the country’s Supreme People’s Court said during a press conference that 6.15 million Chinese citizens had been banned from taking flights for social misdeeds.

President Xi Jinping's plan, based on the principle 'once untrustworthy, always restricted', will come into effect on 1 May...

The system is designed to automatically provide "green lanes" for faster access to government services for "well-behaved" citizens while levying travel bans and other punishments on those who get out of line. 


Keyser IridiumRebel Mon, 03/19/2018 - 23:40 Permalink

Please do NOT attempt to apply western cultural norms to the Chinese, they don't apply... As someone that lives in a tourist area of Thailand that get's roughly 20,000,000 visitors a year, this announcement falls on welcome ears... Aside from the European flash-packers and economic refugees from the USA and Britain, we get a high number of Chinese tourists and they are the bane of the tourist industry... They shit and piss in public, they are loud and rude, they walk in the middle of roads blocking traffic and steal anything not nailed down... Hell, business' openly display signs that say NO CHINESE ALLOWED... This travel ban cannot come fast enough for some... 

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Antifaschistische Keyser Tue, 03/20/2018 - 00:06 Permalink

In Houston, the #1 reason people do not want to ride "public transit" (light rail particularly) is because of the human problem on the planes...fare evading homeless and substance abusers ALWAYS on the train creating a very tense climate for ladies who are alone.

Okay...we don't have a name for it...but we want people with low "social scores" banned from our trains too.  Please come to Houston and help us implement.

(with a mild degree of sarcasm and truth)

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forexskin spag Tue, 03/20/2018 - 00:35 Permalink

and who defines who is an asshole? the cultural revolutionaries? what could possibly go wrong?

more cameras per square mile in london than anywhere, so china is upping the ante?

i want to condemn this, and communist hell holes have done this *kind* of thing as long as they've been around, but napoleon said to never interfere with an enemy making mistakes, so just hope it gets bad enough that it becomes clearly horrifying.

my fear is that it will just become another technically sparkling aspect of (((postmodern globalism)))'s need for security and acceptable here. we are so focked....

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LyLo Grumbleduke Tue, 03/20/2018 - 07:55 Permalink

Huge sci-fi fan, checking in.  I don't watch much teevee, don't like Seth MacFarlane, and look at modern American sci-fi as an embarrassment to the genre.  I give my badge of approval out very, very, very sparingly in general, and with sci-fi even less often.  Bearing all that in mind...

If you enjoyed the original Star Trek more than any other, think that JJAbrams Trek is physically nauseating, and would just like some good old fashioned sci-fi with interesting stories and fun characters, then this is the show for you.  Imagine a '60s/'70s sci-fi show, with a little more raunchy of humor (current year and all) and modern effects.  They actually build sets and use makeup, instead of saying screw it and going all cheap shitty CGI with a bunch of lensflare to cover up how crappy it looks.

Go watch this show at the first opportunity.


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AllBentOutOfShape spag Tue, 03/20/2018 - 04:20 Permalink

No, the problem with this policy is there's no official statements or information from PRC being sourced in this story. All of this is according to the WSJ, and Reuters. Reuters did mention two official statements on China's National Development and Reform Commission website on Friday, but provided no link to these statements. So I checked the website myself and to no surprise found nothing. There doesn't look to be any official press or news releases on that site since last year, so where are these alleged statements from Friday that Reuters refers to? I checked some independent sites that publish news on China and found nothing.

It may be true, but until something more 'official' is provided instead of what is pure speculation by Reuters and the WSJ at this point, it's nothing but "fake" news.

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Endgame Napoleon IridiumRebel Mon, 03/19/2018 - 23:42 Permalink

Except in the case of Democrats, the family-planning monitoring will include social points for womb productivity that secure even more than the array of current, pay-per-birth monthly welfare and tax-code welfare, whereas the Chinese might still be concerned with the issue of over-population. Big Brother’s gaze is creepy, though. The graphics are good, but they have the look of Japanese prints, rather than Chinese artwork. 

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just the tip IridiumRebel Tue, 03/20/2018 - 01:31 Permalink

this article did not say, and you did not complain, about the menstruation police.  every neighborhood, regardless of the size of the city or community has one.  they keep track of the womens cycles.  this is a result of the one child policy.  it is how the chinese curb their population growth.  that and opium consumption.  it is cultural, not political.

The danwei system was crucial to the implementation of the one child policy as the reproductive behavior of workers could be monitored through the danwei system. Workers not complying with policy could have their pay docked, incentives withheld or living conditions downgraded.

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techpriest Luc X. Ifer Tue, 03/20/2018 - 01:23 Permalink

Actually they are enablers by ignorance of this distopyian society because they see a mistic interpretation in what is indeed upgraded to the latest technology advancements human cattle farming

When I see that phrase two thoughts come to mind:

1) The general concept of using economic deprivation as a means of conformity. The Mark is an end-times thing, *but* its more a case of "Of the many options available, the Beast will pick X over Y."

2) The phrase is a cultural shorthand that points to the generic version of (1).

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NoDebt NoDebt Mon, 03/19/2018 - 23:13 Permalink

If you could find four people on the internet who said I was a piece of shit, I would probably be banned from riding in a train or airplane, too.

I GUARANTEE you could find four such people just on ZH.  It's not like I don't piss people off here.  Sure, I say some stuff many people agree with but I don't do so without pissing off at least as many other people who disagree with me.

Take Bes, for example.  I just totally poked a stick in his eye in another thread tonight because he is a fucking idiot and deserved it.  Do you think he wouldn't give me a negative social comment to the government, if given a chance?  Of course he would.  Fuc, I would, too, if it were that simple to fuck up somebody's day.

Now multiply that by the number of people I have ever pissed off here on "Fight Club" and I might never be allowed to leave my own house under these rules.


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DelusionsCrowded NoDebt Mon, 03/19/2018 - 23:50 Permalink

I think Asians are naturally conformist , its a part of their evolution line . There is a reason why they all look similar . The guy who 'looks' different gets excluded . Their physiology is quite different , small . 

On a side view , I wonder if Japanese men are malfunctioning because they look at Western porno and have a narcissistic crash .

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GreatUncle NoDebt Tue, 03/20/2018 - 07:17 Permalink

You can see them trolling ZH webpages ... we will all be on the blacklist.

That is what this really is.

Them Chinese with no voting rights or freedoms now find themselves on a blacklist does not end well.

The complete formation of a divide between specially selected one and outcasts will create war if the outcasts are now forced to starve and suffer.

It does not take much ... the specially selected ones would be targeted as easier prey so it is like you piss off one group to cull the other.


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DavidFL Mon, 03/19/2018 - 23:06 Permalink

The "system" has already been deployed in the US. What do you think TSA Precheck and Global Entry are all about. Background checks and interviews, i.e., US equilviant to the Chineese "Social Credit Score". 

Dont be so naive.