Facebook Chief Security Officer Leaving After Clashing Over "Spread Of Disinformation"

Update 2: Minutes after Stamos' tweet statubg he was still "fully engaged" at Facebook, Reuters 'sources' reported that he will leave the firm effective in August, and has already has responsibilities for countering government-sponsored disinformation taken away from him.


In short: a mess.

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Update 1: It appears The New York Times may have taken some liberty with the facts, as Stamos just tweeted to confirm he had not actually departed Facebook but is working on election security...

So to sum up - a fake-news-battling Facebooker denies fake-news spread about fake-news-spreading Facebook by the NYT.

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Less than six months after exclaiming his concerns about algorithmic censorship on social media, and fears about becoming a 'ministry of truth', Alex Stamos - Facebook's chief information security officer - is leaving the tech giant following "internal disagreements" over how the company should handle disinformation spread over its platform, according to the New York Times.

His departure was reportedly planned long before the Cambridge Analytica scandal erupted over the weekend.

Stamos famously unleashed a scathing tweet storm late last year warning the FBI and intrusive Democratic lawmakers (who are again banging the regulation drum) that "censorship is easy", but separating Russian bots from legitimate posters would be much, much harder, and essentially would require Facebook or the government to become a "Ministry of Truth" - referring to a government ministry from George Orwell's 1984 responsible for rewriting history.

"It’s very difficult to spot fake news and propaganda using just computer programs," Stamos said in a series of Twitter posts on Saturday.

“Nobody of substance at the big companies thinks of algorithms as neutral,” Stamos wrote, adding that the media is simplifying the matter.

“Nobody is not aware of the risks.”

"So if you don't worry about becoming the Ministry of Truth with ML systems trained on your personal biases, then it's easy!"

Stamos, according to the NYT, had reportedly clashed with other senior executives over how the company should handle disclosures of "Russian interference" on its platform. Stamos called for more transparency and disclosure.


His repeated conflicts led to his day-to-day responsibilities being reassigned late last year in preparation for his departure - which wasn't expected to happen until August.

After his day-to-day responsibilities were reassigned to others in December, Mr. Stamos said he would leave the company. He was persuaded to stay through August to oversee the transition of his duties because executives thought his departure would look bad, the current and former employees said. He has been overseeing the transfer of his security team to Facebook’s product and infrastructure divisions. His group, which once had 120 people, now has three, the current and former employees said.

Stamos is the first senior employee to leave the company since the controversy surrounding the purported $100,000 in fraudulent ad spending by a "Russian troll farm" was first publicly confirmed in September.

Last month Facebook VP of advertising Rob Goldman weighed in on the Russian meddling narrative in a string of tweets responding to special counsel Robert Mueller's indictment of 13 Russian nationals running a "bot farm" which, according to Mueller (via Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein), was unsuccessful at influencing the 2016 election. 

Notably, Goldman points out that the majority of advertising purchased by Russians on Facebook occurred after the election - and was in fact designed to sow discord and divide Americans. 

President Trump fired off Goldman's comment in a Saturday morning tweet:

If we are to accept Mueller's findings that Russian disinformation campaign was focused on elevating an outside candidate to win the White House, no matter who it was (Mueller notes they supported both Sanders and Trump, while using "any opportunity to criticize Hillary and the rest"), then the logical conclusion is that while there was no collusion with the Trump campaign, the ultimate goal would be to weaken America by creating a divide in the long-standing establishment power structure. 

To that end, this 1985 interview with ex-KGB agent Yuri Bezmenov, who defected to the West in 1970, is a must-watch. in it, Bezmenov very clearly outlines that the KGB's primary goal is not covert intelligence; it's a long-term campaign of ideological subversion, or "active measures." 

The entire interview is over two hours long, and both condensed and extended versions can be found below. In summary,the KGB, for decades, hass had a goal of altering the average American's perception of reality in order to confuse and divide the US population, while reducing our men of fighting age to feminized soy boys

There are four basic stages: 

1) Demoralization: This will take 15-20 years (which would bring us to around 2000-2005), which is enough time to educate a generation of students and indoctrinate them into a Marxist-Leninist ideology as "useful idiots." The result of this stage of subversion is that the "useful idiots" will be "contaminated" through ideological and irreversible brainwashing. According to Bezmenov, the demoralized person is unable to assess fact-based information. You can shower him with documents, facts and other solid evidence, and he will refuse to believe it until kicked in his "fat bottom" by troops."

Bezmenov said (in 1985), that the demoralization campaign had been active for 25 years. 

2) Destablization: Once the population has been programmed and "contaminated," the subverter does not care about your ideas, the patterns of your consumption, whether you eat junk food and get fat and flabby. It doesn’t matter anymore. This time, and it only takes from two to five years to destabilize a nation, what matters is essentials, economy, foreign relations, defense systems.

3) Crisis: Once destabilization has occurred, "It may take only six weeks to bring a country to the verge of crisis. You see it in Central America now."

4) Normalization: "And after crisis, with a violent change in power, structure, and economy, you have the period of so-called normalization will last indefinitely. Normalization is a cynical expression borrowed from Soviet propaganda"


If Bezmenov was correct about the KGB's "recipe" for subverting the United States, one need look no further than a generation of pussy-hat wearing, hypersensitive, multi-gendered, ultra politically-correct Social Justice Warrior mentality that's infiltrated the West - most recently characterized by Justin Trudeau's recent "peoplekind" admonishment of a young and inquisitive student. 

The tools of subversion are identity politics and the destruction of culture, often conducted under the guise of "equality" and humanitarianism. Has the forced integration of scores of migrants across Europe strengthened or weakened nations with open-border policies? Are Poland and Hungary stronger or weaker for resisting said invasion? 

Indeed, it can be said that Europe has been demoralized through social-justice identity politics, which has paved the way for the active and ongoing destabilization of Europe's long-knit social and economic fabric. 

Next will be Crisis brought on by the powder-keg created by "cultural enrichment" and no-go zones, after which Europe will surely be forced to normalize under a brave new regime in which the ongoing threat of civil war will keep Europe weak for decades.

One has to consider who destabilized North Africa despite Ghadaffi offering to hold migrants at bay for a mere £4bn-per-year. Who then welcomed migrants which were the byproduct of said destabilization? And what will be the end result when we roll the clock forward five, ten, fifteen years? 

One could make the argument that we are now shifting from demoralization and destabilization, to crisis

Watch Bezmenov's interview below:

Short version:

Long version:

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Facebook shares, which entered correction territory during Monday's session, were down 1% after hours, back at the lows of the day...



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Deep Snorkeler Zero_Ledge Mon, 03/19/2018 - 21:44 Permalink


1. the news media is a boutique of fantasy, trivia, myth, celebrities

and lots of self-importance

2. you are the victim of a daily massive disinformation campaign

that is working perfectly

3. many people are victims of self-disinformation

4. they know who you are, they see what you do.

They try to force you to buy things urgently

5. telescreen-people are not your friends. Don't listen to them

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GUS100CORRINA skbull44 Mon, 03/19/2018 - 20:06 Permalink

Facebook Chief Security Officer Leaving After Clashing Over "Spread Of Disinformation"

My response: Just two points to make regarding the TOPIC of Social Media.

1. Every single Social Media company needs to come under control and jurisdiction of the FTC, not the FCC!!


LACK OF PRIVACY and CENSORSHIP are real threats if the above two actions are not completed.

These social media and technology companies are OUT OF CONTROL like wild bulls in a china shop and need to be corralled.

Going forward, WE THE PEOPLE need to VOTE OUT OF OFFICE every single DEMOCRAT and RINO in the upcoming 2018 midterm elections.

Choose wisely America for the days are filled with EVIL.

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pc_babe GUS100CORRINA Mon, 03/19/2018 - 21:11 Permalink

Why is every answer and solution: GOVERNMENT??!! These f*cking sops cant find their way out of a wet paper bags and yet ... FTC oversight, FCC regulations, internet bill or rights, blah blah blah

The private sector can and should manage its own affairs ... vote with your feet and stop using the product if you don't like it. ...or any other product for that matter!

Which moron at FB put a gun to your head and made you surrender every bit of your privacy?

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Endgame Napoleon CrabbyR Mon, 03/19/2018 - 19:43 Permalink

That is what the guy who quit was pointing out. He was right. They shouldn't pretend that the algorithms are neutral. Instinctively, we all know they aren’t, anyway, on any site, whatever its political bias. What we do not know is how algorithms work or why they are not inherently neutral. Nor do we know why it is hard to construct objective algorithms. They should just explain exactly what makes that so hard, technically, trying to explain it in a non-jargon-laden way without all those overlapping tech acronyms, letting the people decide whether or not they want a Ministry of Truth. Stamos should not have been voted off of the island.

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Labworks Mon, 03/19/2018 - 18:57 Permalink

Mass global spy program, collecting all the data, listening in on every word, reading everything, tracking every step, watching every move. Get out if you have any brains left, it was a setup from the beginning! They play the slow game.

True Blue Labworks Mon, 03/19/2018 - 20:29 Permalink

You left out refining facial recognition software and establishing a mugshot database of every fool dumb enough to use the 'service.'

More importantly:

WTF does Facebook have to do with 'election security'?

Are they partnering with DieBold now? (Aside from the apparent US .gov connection between the two, which we aren't supposed to notice.)

C'mon Yellowstone, blow this taco stand already.

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Sonny Brakes Mon, 03/19/2018 - 18:57 Permalink

My experience with the Face makes me think that they are censoring me. Every time I try and comment on a story, I'm bounced and the story disappears until I refresh my page and scroll to the story or any story and I get bounced. This happens of MSM news sites only, so far.

Miffed Microbi… Labworks Mon, 03/19/2018 - 20:11 Permalink

I think if people really felt they were important they wouldn't post such drivel for self validation. Probably most on FB are lonely and are so insecure they need a firewall for normal interactions. Then someone " unfriends" them and they go into a depression, leading some to even commit suicide. 

Time to wake up people. Those " friends" you have on FB are not really your friends. Friends don't disappear during a power outage. At least mine don't.



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Miffed Microbi… Yen Cross Mon, 03/19/2018 - 22:09 Permalink

I dont know Yen. Most of my commentary comes from watching the social interactions of my chickens and today I came home and my betta fish was feeling poorly due to a cold house. Frustrated I couldn't figure out how to warm his tank without warming the house, I took the dogs out for a walk. Come back to find Mr has the fish bowl in his Sous Vide, proudly announcing he has solved my problem. 


I really  don't think the world is ready for either one of us. 



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