Rand Paul Admits "Absolutely, The Deep State Exists"

Authored by Jay Syrmopoulos via TruthInMedia.com,

Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) said Tuesday during an appearance on The Laura Ingraham Show podcast that the term “deep state” accurately describes how an unelected bureaucracy of national security officials in positions of power exert influence without Congressional oversight.

“Absolutely, there is a deep state, because the deep state is the intelligence agencies that do not have oversight,” he said.

“Only eight people in Congress know what they’re doing, and traditionally, those eight people have been a rubber stamp to let the intelligence communities do whatever they want. There is no skeptic among the eight people that are supposedly overseeing the intelligence community.”

The “Gang of Eight”  that Paul referenced is made up of the majority and minority leaders of the House of Representatives and Senate, along with the chairmen and ranking members of the two intelligence committees, and are the select few members of Congress with real-time access to America’s most sensitive intelligence.

Paul pointed out that he believed Obama-era CIA Director John Brennan, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper and others used intelligence collected “without any judicial warrants” for political purposes, in addition to “try to bring Trump down.”

“John Brennan and James Clapper were doing whatever the hell they wanted, without any judicial warrants, and I think there were numerous people in the Obama administration who were using intelligence — one, to try to bring Trump down; but two, also, they were using it for political purposes,” he said.

“And this is very, very worrisome.”

Paul evidenced his point by noting Brennan’s politicized tweet over the weekend calling Trump a corrupt demagogue, and promising that America would “triumph” over him.

“This is the real problem,” Paul said.

“And [founding father James] Madison warned about this from the beginning. Madison said that men are not angels. And all you gotta do is look at John Brennan’s tweet to know that he’s not an angel. And listen to James Clapper lying to the Senate about whether they were spying on Americans.”

Paul previously tweeted that Brennan’s attacks on the “Bill of Rights” and “freedoms of every American” while running the CIA were “disgraceful.”

Further solidifying Paul’s point about “men are not angels,” Samantha Power, former UN Ambassador under President Obama, issued an ominous tweet: “Not a good idea to piss off John Brennan.”

Many took this tweet by Powers as an implicit threat on behalf of Brennan. After strong social media backlash following her tweet, Powers sent a follow-up tweet that aimed to walk back the implied threat she had first issued.

Rand Paul’s commentary starts at roughly 21:30 in the podcast below.

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Ophiuchus yrad Thu, 03/22/2018 - 11:21 Permalink

Big meeting.

Cell phones left at door.

+8

5 political

1 former intel dir

Mask & Spin

IDEN friendly ‘insiders’

MSM support +talking points

Shift narrative

Q

 

 archive: “Only eight people in Congress know what they’re doing, and traditionally, those eight people have been a rubber stamp to let the intelligence communities do whatever they want. There is no skeptic among the eight people that are supposedly overseeing the intelligence community.”

 

John Brennan was probably the '1 former intel dir'.............

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dirty fingernails wildbad Thu, 03/22/2018 - 12:06 Permalink

I don't see anybody noticing that what Rand is still saying that that "with some tweaks, the US is still fixable" which is COMPLETE BS. Its been broken at least since JFK got popped from the knoll, but arguably since the start (Whiskey Rebellion).

Sorry, but Rand is just pandering to the same crowd of Trump supporters in a future Presidential bid.

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FBaggins ThanksChump Thu, 03/22/2018 - 14:15 Permalink

The Peep State

This following text is from a December 2020 briefing of President-Elect Rand Paul with the heads of the 17 US intelligence agencies, a number of weeks before his inauguration:

Gina Haspel: Mr. President-Elect we are gathered here to brief you on what we know is happening in the US and in foreign relations, who our enemies really are, what we are doing to subdue them, and the future course of our nation.

Rand Paul: Yes, go ahead Ms. Haspel. I am eager to learn and to do whatever I can to cooperate with you and all the other agencies to advance the interests and wellbeing of all Americans. For the time being you can call me Mr. President.

Gina Haspel: Well we are not quite sure you have got there yet. How about if we just call you ‘Rand’?

Rand Paul: Okay. How about I just call your Gina?

Gina Haspel: Well I am the head of the CIA and I never let my subordinates address me on a first name basis. Also, I am the official spokesperson here for the other intelligence agencies and this briefing is to advise you on just how crucial our work is not only for the survival of our great nation but of the entire world, which includes you as an elected president of the Untied States.

Rand Paul: Yes, of course.

Gina Haspel:  First on our agenda are remarks you made in March 2018 on the Laura Ingraham Show when you said that the term “deep state” accurately describes how an unelected bureaucracy of national security officials in positions of power exert influence without Congressional oversight. I believe that was a direct refence to our agencies and our work.

Rand Paul: Yes, I recall that did say that. Go ahead.

Gina Haspel:  Rand, do you know why we are called ‘intelligence’ agencies?

Rand Paul: I understand that all of you are very intelligent people and that you specialize in acquiring knowledge.

Gina Haspel: Yes, and you would admit that in doing so our agencies collectively have far greater knowledge about what is going in our nation and the rest of the world, than any congressional committee or elected representative. You would agree?

Rand Paul: In some respects, yes of course.

Gina Haspel: By your remarks, you would appear to think that just by being elected people are somehow properly qualified to know how things really work and can make responsible decisions, and that from their they can direct us in our work. You would agree that if you do not have accurate and sufficient information that you cannot make rational or responsible decisions?

Rand Paul: Well, yes.  I most certainly do. I will indeed be counting of various agencies to properly advise me so that I can make well-informed and responsible decisions. But the precise problem is the way this nation has been run over the past 100 years or so where Presidents dependent on your input have made disastrous decisions. The people have been deliberately kept in the dark. If it was not for our 1st Amendment and the information which has been leaked to the people through the internet revolution I would not have been elected. The people, let alone various Presidents, have been so abused with the control of the media, propaganda, fake news, and poor intelligence, that without the facts as to what is really going on, of course we have not been able to make well-informed decisions. As you know, this election was fought largely against the operatives of your intelligence agencies in the main stream media.

Gina Haspel: Well Mr. Paul, I assure you we were only doing our duty. The information the people are receiving in the alternate media is not verified, and much of it conflicts with American interests.

Rand Paul: Well take for instance the coercion of Mr. Trump into escalating the war against Syria, which debacle led to his defeat. Through your agencies, the people never really got the facts, the “intel” as you say, as to why we were really there in the first place, or even what our troops were doing despite the will of the overwhelming majority of the Syrian people.

Gina Haspel: That is the second reason why we are here. Don’t you realize that when such intel is disseminated publicly, we always lose power and even wars. Knowledge is power and has to be sprinkled about sparingly.

Rand Paul: As you know, I was also against the Iraqi war. It was your very agency at the time which induced Mr. GW Bush to lie to the American people about Weapons of Mass Destruction. That was not true and it led to the destruction of a nation and the slaughter of well over one hundred thousand innocent people.  

Gina Haspel: That is precisely the point. The war was necessary to take out the monster Saddam. That threat has been neutralized. The nation is no longer an economic threat to us or a military threat to Israel.

Rand Paul: The nation was devasted and the people are now looking for any opportunity to gain their freedom and oppose us anyway. I remember Alan Greenspan saying to Congress after retiring from the Fed that there never were any WMD’s and that we were there because of the oil - “because we needed it”.  The devastation and killing in Syria is far worse and I would say that we were there for the same reasons. All of these nefarious exploits for immediate gain have a way of backfiring on us.  

Gina Haspel: What you have to realize Mr. Paul is that this is a ‘dog eat dog’ world and if you are not top dog you will be eaten alive. If our enemies control the oil reserves and other strategic resources of the world then they will rule us and we will be their slaves. As for oil reserves in the Middle East, it was mainly US and European based companies which found them and developed them.  Once, developed as soon as the ordinary people get a whiff of the wealth and our dependence on oil, they become possessive and want to control it and us for their own ends. We then are the ones who become vulnerable and exploited. It is all about power. Why do you think we have supported the Wasabi sheiks in Saudi Arabia for so long?  Do you think oil prices would be so low if they controlled their own oil or the people better educated? They are Arabs and Muslims and they all hate us. We have been engaged in oil wars and will continue to be long into the future, and the sooner everyone realizes that at we have the power and the might to protect our interests the wars will stop.

Rand Paul: But if it is a dog eat dog world, is it not because we make it so? In order to remain on top we have to suppress not only people in Saudi Arabia and Iraq but pretty well in every client nation where there are strategic interests, and it would appear that your agencies feel that the way to do that is not only through intelligence gathering and diplomacy, but largely through illegal surveillance, blackmail, intimidation, bribery,  assassinations,  destabilizations, coups,  insurgencies, and wars.

Gina Haspel: Now you are getting it. That is the way the world works. In our conflicts we have to put our nice little Sunday-school morals aside so that we can do the work which is really necessary to attain our ends. If it was not for these means you would not even have been able to fill up your SUV yesterday morning, let alone even run for office.

Rand Paul: Well, why I am here and you are here is to tell you that the American people have woken up and are fed up, as has the rest of the world woken up and is fed up. Not only are your methods utilized in the foreign arena to maintain power, but they are being used by our domestic agencies against anyone deemed an enemy, even if they are people in an opposing political party. It is precisely because of these methods that trust in America both at home and abroad has broken down so rapidly. Once that trust is completely lost then all of us really will be vulnerable, and not just economically.  Your ways of justifying evil means against innocent people for our gain are to stop. We can protect our economic and strategic interests in the long run much better through good will and developing a better sense of cooperation built on trust, in the way we utilize our knowledge and power, and especially in the ways intel and power are utilized in your agencies.

Gina Haspel: Mr. Paul, you are aware of our position and we must advise you that all former Presidents except for an unfortunate few have always heeded our advice and direction.   

Rand Paul: Let me assure you I will always heed the advice of the new heads I will appoint for the agencies which are to remain.  Thank you.

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Deep Snorkeler pier Thu, 03/22/2018 - 11:30 Permalink

The Deep State, Also Known as SPECTRE

Has no difficulty controlling America's aisle waddlers,

a nation of unread mind-children educated with defective GEDs,

a paleo-people chained to a vibrating TV screen,

wallowing in monstrous levels of corruption and chaos,

in a cascade of imperial decline, semi-conscious and unborn.

 

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Chupacabra-322 pier Thu, 03/22/2018 - 11:34 Permalink

How about. We know who the Pure Evil War Criminal Treasonous Seditious Psychopaths at the Highest Compartmentalized Levels of the CIA, FBI, DOJ, NSA & their bosses Headquartered in Operation Yinion Plan & Operation TALPIOT Israel.

 

The time has finally come to Eliminate permanently the Pure Evil War Criminal Treasonous Seditious Psychopaths at the CIA along with the three complete Highest Compartmentalized Criminal Levels of each Agency.

 

Clean House.

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dirty fingernails Chupacabra-322 Thu, 03/22/2018 - 12:17 Permalink

Problems: #1. How to deal with a decentralized cadre of people who aren't even on any official lists trained to hide their identity and cause covert mayhem?

#2. How do you catch all of them before they scatter like roaches and hit you from every angle? We are talking about *thousands* of individuals and millions of soft targets.

#3. How to deal with the sympathizers/accessories in the other branches of gov, mil, and tech industry?

The obvious cure is damned near as bad as the disease because of the power vacuum that would be left with all the levers still intact. It would be certain to kill the "patient" and its almost assured to be worse than what we have today. Rarely do coups/revolutions/rebirths/whatever improve things for more than a different (sometimes) set of assholes.

I don't see any good or even appealing solutions.

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dirty fingernails Rockatanski Thu, 03/22/2018 - 14:28 Permalink

So operatives (overt, covert, and assets) who are spread throughout our society and around the globe will be dealt with by the same assholes fighting beside ISIS and killing Syrians illegally? I am *filled* with confidence that that won't turn out to be a complete shit-show.

FYI, extrajudicial killings are NEVER the answer. If you want to do right, you have to do right, not roll in the shit with the swine.

 

"Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster... for when you gaze long into the abyss. The abyss gazes also into you.”

Friedrich Nietzsche

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Chupacabra-322 dirty fingernails Thu, 03/22/2018 - 13:29 Permalink

#1. Simple.  You put these “Operatives” on a List.  Assign a Handler to them, of which, they are unaware of for the rest of their lives. They will be tracked, traced & whereabouts known of.  Every move, phone call, text, email & every hour down to the second will be categorized.  

 

#2. See #1. 

 

#3. The Elimination of the three upper Highly Compartmentalized Criminal Levels will include the MIC & Pentagram.  Which will all also have eyes on them for the rest of their lives.  

 

 

 

 

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Radical Marijuana dirty fingernails Thu, 03/22/2018 - 14:30 Permalink

While those are some of the practical problems, theoretical issues arise due to imperative that there must be some death control systems, because endless exponential growth is absolutely impossible.

Indeed, human history has selected for murder systems to maximize maliciousness. In sublimely paradoxical ways, civilization necessarily operates according to the principles and methods of organized crime, which manifested on larger and larger scales, whereby the biggest and best organized gangsters dominated civilization so much, for so long, that the dominate natural languages and philosophy of science have the biggest bullies' bullshit built into their basic structure.

Regarding the article above, the various secret police entities are tips of the iceberg: those may well more be considered to form shadow government, operating within the matrix of the deep state.

Under the following article, many comments posted there quite rightly pointed out that the most significant feature of the deep state, for whom the shadow governments actually work, are the best organized gangsters, who may be referred to as the banksters.

74% Of Americans Believe The "Deep State" Is Running The Country

I posted several of my kinds of comments and replies under that article, stressing that the existing political economy is actually based on ORGANIZED CRIME. However, there is no widely understood language to use to discuss the painfully obvious paradoxes that the biggest and best organized gangsters capture control over all sociopolitical institutions, such that people are taught to think using the DUALITIES of false fundamental dichotomies, and the related impossible ideals.

From the point of view of human beings and civilization being manifestations of general energy systems, it is possible to theoretically derive what is also empirically observed, namely that governments are the biggest forms of organized crime, which are dominated by the best organized gangsters. Furthermore, it is also possible to understand how and why the social situations prevailed that there is almost nothing but layers of various controlled "opposition" groups surrounding the central core of excessively triumphant organized crime, whereby the greatest crimes are those which have been legalized.

The most important expression of the deep state, which is what drives all of its shadow government capabilities, is the ability to legally counterfeit the public "money" supplies out of nothing as debts. That is the key to the power of the dark state, as well as how the vicious feedback spirals of the funding of the political processes have resulted in almost all successful politicians becoming puppets, whose strings are pulled by the shadow government, on behalf of the interests of the dark state.

There are no reasonable doubts about the basic history of the currently established systems of public governments enforcing frauds by private banks, as described by Carroll Quigley:

"... powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching goal, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole ... to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements. ... The apex of the system was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world’s central banks which were themselves private corporations. ... The substantive financial powers of the world were in the hands of these investment bankers who remained largely behind the scenes in their own unincorporated private banks. These formed a system of international cooperation and national dominance which was more private, more powerful, and more secret than that of their agents in the central banks."

Legalized counterfeiting is the supreme achievement of organized crime. The dominate established systems are NOT "finance capitalism," but rather ORGANIZED CRIME, which has been able to make and maintain "a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole."

Those banksters are the essential deep state powers, while the secret police work for the agenda of those banksters. It is a misleading, albeit superficially correct, analysis to label the secret police agencies as being the deep state. I think it is more useful to regard the various secret police agencies as being the primary expressions of shadow government, which arose within the matrix of the deep state in order to advance the overall agenda of that deep state.

As I explained in my comments and replies under

74% Of Americans Believe The "Deep State" Is Running The Country,

there are certainly a host of practical problems, which effectively make it politically impossible to fix the vicious feedback spirals of the funding of the political processes from automatically becoming ever more crazy and corrupt. Indeed, any circumstances in which that situation started to go through significant series of psychotic breakdowns would likely be worse for the majority of people, than for the banksters, et alia ...

I certainly agree that:

"I don't see any good or even appealing solutions."

Rather, I return to the theoretically imperative point which I started with, namely that there must necessarily be some murder systems, while the essential nature of those systems drives them to become most socially successful by becoming as deceitful and treacherous as possible. Civilization is dominated and directed to develop by its murder systems, especially because the money systems are backed by the murder systems.

Globalized Neolithic Civilization is almost totally based on being able to ENFORCE FRAUDS, while about exponentially advancing technologies have enabled that to become about EXPONENTIALLY INCREASING FRAUDULENCE.

Theoretically speaking, the only possibly good and appealing solutions would have to be better death control systems, in order to back up better debt control systems. However, the existing systems have already become as dishonest about themselves as possible, especially because of the degree to which there is almost no publicly significant genuine opposition, but only various forms of controlled "opposition." Anyone who proposes and promotes bogus "solutions" based on taking for granted some old-fashioned false fundamental dichotomies and impossible ideals is a form of controlled "opposition." 

After human beings are perceived and defined as being separated from their environment and each other, then human beings necessarily live as reproducing gangs of robbers. There is nothing but the dynamic equilibria between different systems of organized lies operating robberies. Civilization developed as social slavery systems, whereby enforced frauds achieved symbolic robberies.

The eventual series of psychotic breakdowns and crazy collapses, due to Civilization becoming about exponentially more fraudulent, will manifest as the previously organized crime degenerating into disorganized crime, which will not necessarily be better than the previous forms of organized crime.

Since the "money" made out of nothing as debts was being used to "pay" for strip-mining the natural resources of a fresh planet at about an exponentially increasing rate, when that system can no longer continue, the conditions which will exist then will be far worse than have ever existed before in the history of Civilization, since there previously always was more of a fresh planet available to continue to strip-mine as fast as possible.

In general, at the present time, and for the foreseeable future, it is politically impossible for the established systems to go through some series of political miracles in order to bootstrap themselves up out of their deepening ruts of the vicious feedback spirals of the funding of the political processes resulting in public governments becoming almost totally operated by deep state puppets, which public politicians are voted for by enough of the masses of muppets.

Instead, one can expect the secret police shadow government to become much more vicious in their attempts to keep the deep state going. It certainly appears to be politically impossible for there to be any practical ways to stop the secret police from becoming increasingly psychotic psychopaths.

What I recommend are series of intellectual scientific revolutions and profound paradigm shifts in political science, which make that political science become more consistent with the prodigious progress in physical science. However, it is barely possible to exaggerate how profound the paradigm shifts should be with respect to the death control systems in general.

Militarism is the supreme ideology, because militarism is the ideology of the murder system (which in turn backs up the money system, and thus everything else.) Warfare was the oldest and best developed form of social science and engineering. However, warfare was most successful by becoming as deceitful and treacherous as possible.

In that context, almost all the successful public politicians have become about as treasonous as possible. Those politicians speak to the public through using the language of false fundamental dichotomies and impossible ideals. There is practically no genuine opposition, because there is no commonly understood language to use to discuss human beings living inside Globalized Neolithic Civilization as actually being manifestations of general energy systems, which are integrated into the surrounding energy systems.

While the entrenched systems based on the power of public governments ENFORCING FRAUDS by private banks are becoming about EXPONENTIALLY MORE FRAUDULENT, therefore more people are noticing and talking about the accumulating apparent anomalies, BUT, BUT, BUT, there is nothing which is publicly significant in terms of the kinds of profound paradigm shifts which would be necessary to have any kind of political revolutions which would actually have "any good or even appealing solutions."

Since the established and deeply entrenched sociopolitical systems are actually based upon being able to enforce frauds, in order to achieve symbolic robberies, their social successfulness depends upon most people deliberately ignoring the principle of the conservation of energy, as well as misunderstanding the concept of entropy in the most absurdly backward ways possible.

To the degree that the deep state is dominated by the best organized gangsters, as backed up by the shadow government's secret police, the dominate public languages promote taking for granted the view that the banksters are not gangsters. Similarly, those few who do begin to perceive that the banksters are the best organized gangsters, who have effectively privatized public powers, mostly then collapse back from superficially correct analyses of that situation to once again propose and promote bogus "solutions" based on some old-fashioned set of impossible ideals, despite that those always actually backfire badly, because their mechanisms are misunderstood in the most absurdly backward ways possible.

Being able to create the public "money" out of nothing as debts requires that most people do NOT think about that being a prima facie violation of the conservation of energy, which is actually nothing more than bookkeeping tricks, as legalized counterfeiting. Moreover, thousands of years of Civilization based on being able to develop increasingly sophisticated and integrated social slavery systems has resulted in almost everything being public presented in the most absurdly backward ways possible.

Almost all public political debates are almost totally dominated by the sets of consistent contradictions which arose because of the biggest and best organized gangsters making and maintaining Civilization, by developing the maximum possible bullshit to enable the maximum maliciousness, as the most socially successful murder systems, backing up the money systems.

Any real revolutions are going to change how human beings live as reproducing gangs of robbers. There are never going to be any revolutions possible which stop human beings from living as nested toroidal vortices engaged in entropic pumping of environmental energy flows. What would be theoretically possible would be for enough human beings to better understand themselves as energy systems. However, at the present time, and for the foreseeable future, that will continue to be politically impossible.

"I don't see any good or even appealing solutions," because although the laws of nature are never going to stop working, the only connections between the laws of men and the laws of nature are the abilities to back up legalized lies with legalized violence, and therefore, those systems are manifesting runaway social psychoses, as those systems are less and less able to, or even bother to attempt to, properly "legalize" themselves.

Natural selection pressures were internalized as human intelligence, which was then applied to the most important selection pressures, which were other groups of people. That drove the history of successful warfare based on deceitfulness, which became the basis for successful finance based on enforcing frauds. Although the laws of nature are not going to stop working, and nothing which depends upon the laws of nature is going to stop working, natural selection pressures have driven the development of artificial selection systems to become as dishonest about themselves as humanly possible.

Globalized Neolithic Civilization, within which the USA became the leading component, has become terminally sick and insane:

"The obvious cure is damned near as bad as the disease because of the power vacuum that would be left with all the levers still intact. It would be certain to kill the 'patient' and its almost assured to be worse than what we have today."

The only thing which has changed has been the prodigious progress in physical science, and especially through series of profound paradigm shifts in mathematical physics, which enabled the development of globalized electronic monkey money frauds, backed by the threat of force from apes with atomic weapons.

Given that, it is theoretically imperative for "the only good and appealing solutions" to be series of political miracles, which, by definition, are extremely improbable to actually happen. Instead, politics continues to be dominated by various old-fashioned ideologies and religions, which adamantly do NOT want to go through sufficiently profound paradigm shifts.

While some human beings are better understanding general energy systems, most human beings, and especially those who are the ruling classes of systems achieving symbolic robberies through enforcing frauds, do NOT want to better understand themselves as manifestations of general energy systems. Indeed, the dominate philosophy of science is an enormous obstacle to do so, since that philosophy has compromised so much with the biggest bullies' bullshit.

The deep state has dominated the funding of the study of so-called "economics" in ways which have resulted in political economy becoming almost totally based on enforcing frauds, while those central social facts were pretty well never admitted and addressed.

The main ways to understand the deep state are to FOLLOW THE MONEY TO ITS SOURCE. While doing so, one will also follow how some of that money is channeled through the shadow government's secret police operations.

Rand Paul, as Ron Paul before him, are some of the very few successful politicians who are not totally the banksters' puppets. However, they still tend to be forms of controlled "opposition" because of how they continue to propose and promote bogus "solutions" based on old-fashioned impossible ideals.

Energy will continue to be conserved through non-linear functions. Civilization will continue to become about exponentially more psychotic in the foreseeable future. Most of the people living inside Globalized Neolithic Civilization, and especially living inside the USA, will continue to be as dishonest as humanly possible.

Although there are some philosophical consolations to be enjoyed from contemplation of the laws of nature, nevertheless those laws of nature have driven the dominate human societies to become as sick and insane as humanly possible, including that those societies are automatically becoming even more so every day. Learning more about those political problems is like discovering that one has a fatal disease, for which there is no available cure. The laws of nature do not stop working when one dies from such a disease, and neither will the laws of nature stop working when Civilization drives itself through series of psychotic breakdowns and crazy collapses into chaos.

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