http://www.ibtimes.com/moscow-largest-muslim-city-europe-faithful-face-…

I would think, that if "Russia did it", on UK Soil, that it would be Child-play for the UK to offer irrefutable PROOF!

I would also think, that before you accuse, try and convict a foriegn NATION for a crime; that you would have proof in hand rather than nothing but an "on going investigation" that you believe can only end with Russia being "guilty".

Geesh! These are GOVERNMENTS acting like FaceBook nutjob posters.
 

Soon to be reported by the MSM:  "A credible source from zerohedge.com familiar with the matter reported that there is no question that it is Russia's fault.".  

 

A few hours later, CNN will then quote whoever reported it first and then claim that this re-reporting is actual corroboration.

 

I had no idea that journalism these days was so easy!  I am going to start putting it on my CV.

 

To get blood samples from the Skripals to give to OPCW the UK Government had to go to Court as they could not give permission themselves. Note how careful Porton Down are being in their wording, their reputation is on the line here amongst their equals. They don't care about Teresa May.

The judgment from the High Court yesterday allowed new blood samples to be taken from Sergei and Yulia Skripal to be analyzed by the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW).

In his judgment, Justice David Basil Williams included a summary of the evidence, revealing Porton Down’s analysis. The judgment, which includes sworn court evidence from a Porton Down chemical and biological analyst, reads:

“Blood samples from Sergei Skripal and Yulia Skripal were analyzed and the findings indicated exposure to a nerve agent OR related compound. The samples tested positive for the presence of a Novichok-class nerve agent OR closely related agent.”

From a good thread at https://www.veteranstoday.com/2018/03/23/breaking-russia-tells-their-si…

My tinfoil Ouija Board has spelt out a couple of new

conspiracies.  First, it is very possible that MI5/6

themselves poisoned the nerves of the Skripals

without telling May's government. The CIA is famous

for presenting various administrations with fait accompli. 

False flags that Washington didn't order, but got stuck

having to acknowledge after the CIA carried them out. 

Thus,  it is possible that UK's ministers May, BoJo, and

the infantile Gavin Williamson just took the word of

MI5/6 upon which they based their stupid, offensive

and undiplomatic remarks. 

 

It will be up to future governments of the UK to get

the toothpaste back in the tube and Gavin Williamson

back to selling furniture and fireplaces, where he first

dazzled May and other distinguished Tories.

 

Second, a much more tinfoil conspiracy, is that the

Skripals 'poisoning' is the third use of a nerve agent

agent by some unidentified players  --  probably

the same in all three instances .  Admittedly, it

was much more 'tinfoil' when there was only one

'data point', but two more have come into existence,

and like GPS, they helped me arrive at my destination. 

The first point was the strange tale of Otto Warmbier. 

A University of Virginia graduate :

Otto Frederick Warmbier (December 12, 1994 – June 19, 2017) was an American university student. In 2016, he was arrested and convicted by North Korean authorities for attempted theft, for which he was sentenced to 15 years imprisonment. While incarcerated, he fell into a coma and never regained consciousness, dying in June 2017.

A nice looking young man in his early 20s, a preppy

type, no doubt intelligent to have graduated from U

of V, a school conveniently located near the seat of

the US government and the headquarters of the CIA.

When I was a student at the U of P in the late 50s

I remember being told by friends that the CIA was

on campus recruiting graduates to be future agents. 

"He was traveling to Hong Kong for a study

abroad program when he decided to visit

North Korea on a guided tour."

Warmbier was intelligent enough to do graduate

work in Hong Kong and interested enough to want

to see North Korea, while being stupid enough to

supposedly try to leave the country with a stolen 

poster of NorKo propaganda, from the hotel he

was staying in.

 

So in early 2016 he was convicted and sentenced

to 15 years at hard labor. That made me think he

was an agent of the CIA,

whose assignment it was to be arrested and jailed

by North Korea.  But for what purpose?  To what

end?  Over a year later we learned that a month

after his conviction, he fell into a coma "as a

result of botulism and a sleeping pill."  Did the

CIA give him the chemicals to self-induce a coma?

 

By the time we were told about Warmbier's coma

and he was shipped home in June 2017, the second

data point had come and gone. I refer to the unusual

assassination of Kim Jong-nam. 

On 13 February 2017, Kim died after being

attacked by two women with VX nerve agent

at Kuala Lumpur International Airport in 

Malaysia while traveling from Macau under a

pseudonym. His death is under investigation,

but it is speculated that it was carried out at

the command of the North Korean government.

 

So this is the second data point.  And it's about North

Korea as well.  In January 2016 Otto Warmbier is

sentenced to 15 years in a North Korean prison, one

month later he falls into a coma after taking a

sleeping pill and in June 2017 he is returned to his

home in Cincinnati, where he promptly dies.

 

On February 13, 2017, Kim Jong-nam is killed by a

nerve agent while waiting for a plane.  It was

speculated that his death was ordered by his

half-brother Kim Jong-un.

                 WEST    2       0     NORTH KOREA 

 

No one should be surprised, then, at this headline

of the Daily Mail, July 9, 2017, a month after 

Warmbier's death.

Kim Jong-un warns Donald Trump he is pushing

North Korea to the brink of nuclear war.

 

There is a lot more water under the bridge than these

few facts illuminate. Kim Jong-nam had a dozen vials

of the antidote for VX nerve agent in his bag at the

airport. Did someone warn him there would be a VX

nerve agent attempt on his life or was VX implicated

because North Korea was known to have old VX agents

degrading in a refrigerator in Pyongyang? 

 

His death is under investigation, but it is speculated

that it was carried out at the command of the North

Korean government. The US Department of State 

eventually determined it was an assassination conducted

by North Korea using VX gas.  Back to the Otto:

"Warmbier died on June 19, 2017, six days after his

return to the United States. U.S.officials blamed North

Korea for his death."

 

After Kim Jong-nam's murder we had two pieces of

information: Otto Warmbier foolishly, maybe

intentionally, stole an North Korean propaganda poster

out of a hotel in Pyongyang and was serving a 15 year

sentence.  In February, 2017 Kim Jong-un's half-brother

was murdered very strangely in a Malaysian airport. 

4 months later the comatose Warmbier is sent home

and dies 6 days later. The US blamed both deaths on

North Korea and Kim Jong-un. 

 

How did Warmbier hold out for a year and a half only

to expire after being returned to his family?  Maybe

Warmbier is still alive having been given the antidote

for whatever combo of drugs the CIA gave him to

induce his coma, the sleeping pill being the second.   

 

Why was Kim Jong-nam both rubbed on the face with

a handkerchief and immediately sprayed with an

aerosol mist?  Maybe Kim Jong-nam was a victim of

binary poisoning?  

John Trestrail, a forensic toxicologist and author of a book about homicidal poisonings, said it is theoretically possible to create a “binary poison” from two chemicals that would be harmless in separation, but deadly when combined (which would explain why neither woman was injured). However, he doesn’t think this is exceedingly likely. “I’ve studied well over 1,000 cases [of murder with poison] and I can’t think of any” that employed such an approach, he says.

Perhaps that's what the chaps at Porton Down have

been working on, lo these last 2 years.  English

Binary Poison. Maybe the Skripals were first test case

of a propaganda bonanza for the English against the

Hitlerian Putin.  It would be so like those slimy, limey

hypocrites, to invent a nerve agent, one chemical of

which could be administered in a pub and the

second chemical in a restaurant a short time later.

 

In that way MI5/6 would avoid accidentally

murdering Miss Marple or the Duchess of

Cornwall who happened to stop in for some

nose paint or a fork-full of pork kidney risotto.

 

Ah, the English.  As selfish and stupid a tribe

of criminal minds that ever came down the pike.

   

 

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