30 Questions That Journalists Should Be Asking About The Skripal Case

Authored by Rob Slane via TheBlogMire.com,

There are a lot of issues surrounding the case of Sergei and Yulia Skripal which, at the time of writing, are very unclear and rather odd. There may well be good and innocent explanations for some or even all of them. Then again there may not. This is why it is crucial for questions to be asked where, as yet, there are either no answers or deeply unsatisfactory ones.

Some people will assume that this is conspiracy theory territory. It is not that, for the simple reason that I have no credible theory - conspiracy or otherwise - to explain all the details of the incident in Salisbury from start to finish, and I am not attempting to forward one. I have no idea who was behind this incident, and I continue to keep an open mind to a good many possible explanations.

However, there are a number of oddities in the official narrative, which do demand answers and clarifications. You don’t have to be a conspiracy theorist or a defender of the Russian state to see this. You just need a healthy scepticism, “of a type developed by all inquiring minds!”

Below are 30 of the most important questions regarding the case and the British Government’s response, which are currently either wholly unanswered, or which require clarification.

1. Why have there been no updates on the condition of Sergei and Yulia Skripal in the public domain since the first week of the investigation?

2. Are they still alive?

3. If so, what is their current condition and what symptoms are they displaying?

4. In a recent letter to The Times, Stephen Davies, Consultant in Emergency Medicine at Salisbury NHS Foundation Trust, wrote the following:

“Sir, Further to your report (“Poison exposure leaves almost 40 needing treatment”, Mar 14) may I clarify that no patients have experienced nerve agent poisoning in Salisbury and there have only ever been three patients with significant poisoning.”

His claim that “no patients have experienced nerve agent poisoning in Salisbury” is remarkably odd, as it appears to flatly contradict the official narrative. Was this a slip of the pen, or was it his intention to communicate precisely this — that no patients have been poisoned by a nerve agent in Salisbury?

5. It has been said that the Skripals and Detective Sergeant Nick Bailey were poisoned by “a military grade nerve agent”. According to some claims, the type referred to could be anywhere between five and eight times more toxic than VX nerve agent. Given that just 10mg of VX is reckoned to be the median lethal dose, it seems likely that the particular type mentioned in the Skripal case should have killed them instantly. Is there an explanation as to how or why this did not happen?

6. Although reports suggested the involvement of some sort of nerve agent fairly soon after the incident, it was almost a week before Public Health England issued advice to those who had visited The Mill pub or the Zizzi restaurant in Salisbury on the day that the Skripals fell ill. Why the delay and did this pose a danger to the public?

7. In their advice, Public Health England stated that people who had visited those places, where traces of a military grade nerve agent had apparently been found, should wash their clothes and:

“Wipe personal items such as phones, handbags and other electronic items with cleansing or baby wipes and dispose of the wipes in the bin (ordinary domestic waste disposal).”

Are baby wipes acknowledged to be an effective and safe method of dealing with objects that may potentially have been contaminated with “military grade nerve agent”, especially of a type 5-8 times more deadly than VX?

8. Initial reports suggested that Detective Sergeant Bailey became ill after coming into contact with the substance after attending the Skripals on the bench they were seated on in The Maltings in Salisbury. Subsequent claims, however, first aired by former Metropolitan Police Commissioner, Lord Ian Blair on 9th March, said that he came into contact with the substance at Sergei Skripal’s house in Christie Miller Road. Reports since then have been highly ambiguous about what should be an easily verifiable fact. Which is the correct account?

9. The government have claimed that the poison used was “a military grade nerve agent of a type developed by Russia”. The phrase “of a type developed by Russia” says nothing whatsoever about whether the substance used in the Salisbury case was produced or manufactured in Russia. Can the government confirm that its scientists at Porton Down have established that the substance that poisoned the Skripals and DS Bailey was actually produced or manufactured in Russia?

10. The former ambassador to Uzbekistan, Craig Murray, has claimed that sources within the Foreign and Commonwealth Office (FCO) have told him that scientists at Porton Down would not agree to a statement about the place of origin of the substance, because they were not able to establish this. According to Mr Murray, only under much pressure from the Government did they end up agreeing to the compromise wording, “of a type developed by Russia”, which has subsequently been used in all official statements on the matter. Can the FCO, in plain and unambiguous English, categorically refute Mr Murray’s claims that pressure was put on Porton Down scientists to agree to a form of words and that in the end a much-diluted version was agreed?

11. On the occasion that the FCO did attempt to refute Mr Murray’s claims, the wording they used included a straightforward repetition of the same phrase – “of a type developed by Russia”. Is the FCO willing and able to go beyond this and confirm that the substance was not only “of a type developed by Russia”, but that it was “produced” or “manufactured” in Russia?

12. Why did the British Government issue a 36-hour ultimatum to the Russian Government to come up with an explanation, but then refuse their request to share the evidence that allegedly pointed to their culpability (there could have been no danger of their tampering with it, since Porton Down would have retained their own sample)?

13. How is it possible for a state (or indeed any person or entity) that has been accused of something, to defend themselves against an accusation if they are refused access to evidence that apparently points to their guilt?

14. Is this not a clear case of the reversal of the presumption of innocence and of due process?

15. Furthermore, why did the British Government issue an ultimatum to the Russian Government, in contravention of the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) rules governing such matters, to which both Britain and Russia are signatories, and which are clearly set out in Article 9, Paragraph ii of the Chemical Weapons Convention (CWC)?

16. Given that the investigation, which has been described by the man leading it as being “an extremely challenging investigation” and as having “a number of unique and complex issues”, and given that many of the facts of the case are not yet known, such as when, where and how the substance was administered, how is it possible for the British Government to point the finger of blame with such certainty?

17. Furthermore, by doing so, haven’t they both politicised and prejudiced the investigation?

18. Why did the British Government feel the need to come forward with an accusation little more than a week into the investigation, rather than waiting for its completion?

19. On the Andrew Marr Show on 18th March, the Foreign Secretary, Boris Johnson, stated the following:

“And I might just say in response to Mr Chizhov’s point about Russian stockpiles of chemical weapons. We actually had evidence within the last ten years that Russia has not only been investigating the delivery of nerve agents for the purposes of assassination, but it has also been creating and stockpiling Novichok.”

Where has this intelligence come from and has it been properly verified?

20. If this intelligence was known before 27th September 2017 – the date that the OPCW issued a statement declaring the completion of the destruction of all 39,967 metric tons of chemical weapons possessed by the Russian Federation – why did Britain not inform the OPCW of its own intelligence which apparently contradicts this claim, which they would have had a legal obligation to do?

21. If this intelligence was known after 27th September 2017, why did Britain not inform the OPCW of this “new” information, which it was legally obliged to do, since it allegedly shows that Russia had been lying to the OPCW and had been carrying out a clandestine chemical weapons programme?

22. Also on the Andrew Marr show, Mr Johnson made the following claim after a question of whether he was “absolutely sure” that the substance used to poison the Skripals was a “Novichok”:

“Obviously to the best of our knowledge this is a Russian-made nerve agent that falls within the category Novichok made only by Russia, and just to get back to the point about the international reaction which is so fascinating.”

Is the phrase “to the best of our knowledge” an adequate response to Mr Marr’s request of him being “absolutely sure”?

23. Is this a good enough legal basis from which to accuse another state and to impose punitive measures on it, or is more certainty needed before such an accusation can be made?

24. After hedging his words with the phrase, “to the best of our knowledge”, Mr Johnson then went beyond previous Government claims that the substance was “of a type developed in Russia”, saying that it was “Russian-made”. Have the scientists at Porton Down been able to establish that it was indeed “Russian-made”, or was this a case of Mr Johnson straying off-message?

25. He also went beyond the previous claim that the substance was “of a type developed in Russia” by saying that the substance involved in the Skripal case “falls within the category Novichok made only by Russia”? Firstly, is Mr Johnson able to provide evidence that this category of chemical weapons was ever successfully synthesised in Russia, especially in the light of the OPCW’s Scientific Advisory Board stating as recently as 2013, that it has “insufficient information to comment on the existence or properties of ‘Novichoks‘“?

26. As Craig Murray has again pointed out, since its 2013 statement, the OPCW has worked (legally) with Iranian scientists who have successfully synthesised these chemical weapons. Was Mr Johnson aware that the category of “Novichok” chemical weapons had been synthesised elsewhere when he stated that this category of chemical weapons is “made only by Russia”?

27. Does the fact that Iranian scientists were able to synthesise this class of chemical weapons suggest that other states have the capabilities to do likewise?

28. Is the British Government aware that the main plant involved in attempts to synthesise Novichoks in the 1970s and 1980s was based not in Russia, but in Nukus in Uzbekistan?

29. Does the fact that the US Department of Defence decontaminated and dismantled the Nukus site, under an agreement with the Government of Uzbekistan, make it at least theoretically possible that substances or secrets held within that plant could have been carried out of the country and even back to the United States?

30. The connection between Sergei Skripal’s MI6 recruiter, Pablo Miller, who also happens to live in Salisbury, and Christopher Steele, the author of the so-called “Trump Dossier”, has been well established, as has the fact that Mr Skripal and Mr Miller regularly met together in the City. Is this connection of any interest to the investigation into the incident in Salisbury?

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If there are any journalists with integrity and inquisitive minds still living in this country, I would be grateful if they could begin doing their job and research the answers to these sorts of questions by asking the appropriate people and authorities.

Comments

Slack Jack Gold Pedant Mon, 03/26/2018 - 03:09 Permalink

The Novichok nerve agents don't even exist.

HERE IS THE PROOF:

The Novichok nerve agents are supposedly much more toxic than the nerve gases VX or Sarin.

Mirzayanov's book, published in 2008, contains the formulas he alleges can be used to create Novichoks. In 1995, he explained that "the chemical components or precursors" of Novichok are "ordinary organophosphates that can be made at commercial chemical companies that manufacture such products as fertilizers and pesticides."

Basically, Mirzayanov claims that it is relatively easy to make the Novichok nerve agents.

So, some enterprising Arabs could buy a few chemists to make a few tons of it and then spray it all over the little Satan.

Do you really think that the Jews who run the United States would allow the publication of information that could lead to thousands of deaths in Israel?

Do you really think they would protect the publisher of such information by giving him residence in the United States?

Remember, Mirzayanov was given residence in the United States after he was kicked out of Russia.

CONCLUSION: The Novichok nerve agents don't exist.

https://www.amazon.com/State-Secrets-Insiders-Chronicle-Chemical/dp/143…

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CuttingEdge Slack Jack Mon, 03/26/2018 - 03:14 Permalink

Kudos to the author.

Very much appreciate the fact bombs - the baby-wipes one was worth a good (ironic) laugh all on it's own.

 

However, the title of the article would be more appropriate were it titled:

 

"30 reasons why May is a complete fucking joke".

 

I won't even go there with her looney toon Foreign Secretary.

And just to recap, 3 years after MH-17, not one iota of information from it's black boxes have been released by Farnborough...

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HowdyDoody purplewarrior Mon, 03/26/2018 - 05:27 Permalink

The UK government has made a court application to take blood samples from the Skirpals for use by the OPCW. As part of the evidence, a Porton Down scientist stated under oath that the Skirpals were poisoned by a Novichok agent or a related agent.

The official UK legal position regarding the poison i) makes no mention of Russia and ii) does not even state it was a Novichok, only it was some kind of nerve agent.

Someone is telling the public massive porkie pies.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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EuroPox BennyBoy Mon, 03/26/2018 - 08:11 Permalink

A few more questions:

How was it that a Detective Sergeant was the first on the scene...  did he just happen to be there and if not how did he hear about it?  Usually a police constable would be the first there, having got a radio message - in any case, certainly not a detective.

Then, so the 'official' story goes, the DS went through Skripal's pockets and found his house keys and ID... so went to Skripal's house and let himself in!  Why would he do that?  Some reports say that is where the DS got poisoned... and this with a 'nerve agent' 10x more potent than VX(???) which had failed to kill Skripal or his daughter in the usual few minutes...  WTF!!!  How does any of that happen?  And if the DS got poisoned at the scene, how was it that nobody else did?

Was the DS the poisoner?  Did he accidentally dob himself with the poison and then went to Skripal's house, either to remove something, or, to drop something off?

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Ex-Oligarch EuroPox Mon, 03/26/2018 - 08:55 Permalink

Another question:

Why, given all the possible means of assassination, would any sensible agent choose to use a chemical weapon?

Guns, knives, blunt force trauma, automobile accident, falling down stairs, bad case of the flu, ordinary poisons -- there is an endless list of possible means that would be (1) more effective,  (2) less difficult and costly, (3) less traceable and (4) less luridly distracting.

It's almost as if the perpetrator intentionally selected the method that was designed to sicken but not kill the target and produce a lurid distraction, while pointing blame at large foreign institutions. 

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BuddyEffed Ban KKiller Mon, 03/26/2018 - 10:38 Permalink

I'm sure some lawyer types over there are salivating about talking with the Skripals and pursuing legal angles and discovery and testimony with similar questions to these 30.  That may be why you haven't heard more about their condition.  Some people are going to get their asses sued and there may be charges.  Russia might be willing to drop a few mil in lawyer fees for that party.

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Joiningupthedots D503 Mon, 03/26/2018 - 10:41 Permalink

LOL.

Heroin is grow under American military protection in Afghanistan

Heroin is processed under American military protection in Afghanistan

Heroin is transported under American military protection from Afghanistan

Heroin is cut, sold and consumed in every small town in America

Wait until your kids and grand kids are taking in the ass for a dollar bag.

Who's laughing now.....Mmmmm?

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Erek Mon, 03/26/2018 - 02:09 Permalink

Sheeeeeeiiiiittttt! Journalists with integrity?

Those dumfuk controlled "journalists" wouldn't ask any serious questions about anything.

desertboy Mon, 03/26/2018 - 02:12 Permalink

It was an allegation of an illegal act; which reasonably would take more than one person (whether fictitious not).  How is that not conspiracy? 

Author's theory is that the official story does not add up.

How is this not a conspiracy theory?

Oracle of Kypseli Mon, 03/26/2018 - 02:27 Permalink

This is so obvious and in your face accusation, you wonder how far into the filth, the shameless politicians will go to satisfy their masters.

One has to loose faith in humanity. Up to a few years ago, I believed in the collective wisdom of people, only to realize lately, that the percentage of psychopaths and sociopaths among us is ever increasing. We are doomed.

LightBeamCowboy Oracle of Kypseli Mon, 03/26/2018 - 13:02 Permalink

It's one of my pet evolutionary/genetics questions: has the anonymity created by modern civilization allowed the rate of psychopathy to increase over time? In small tribes everyone knew who the psychopaths were, and the tribe either exiled them (which was often a death sentence) or killed them directly. This would have limited the spread of the gene for psychopathy, a control which we have now lost.

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Sapere aude Mon, 03/26/2018 - 03:38 Permalink

ZH FAKE news.

 

They have totally misquoted the doctor who did not state what is quoted.. they conveniently leave out the word symptoms.

He was a general doctor at ONE hospital.

After the initial poisoning any patient presenting SYMPTOMS of nerve agent would not have attended that hospital, but would have been rushed to the specialist unit at Porton Down.

Why do they not update on whether they are alive or where? Use your brain. If someone made an attempt on your life would you want them knowing how you were doing, or where you were?

Now with regards the dose and some other ill informed queries.

Yes 10mg will kill instantly, if the delivery is guaranteed to delivery that amount and that can only be done intravenously. Otherwise the dose received might be quit different to the dose delivered, especially if in powder form, and if you only used your brain cells you would realise that if a third party was infected, then the delivery mechanism was not 100% at all, and probably powder based, where dispersal takes place.

ON the question of evidence against Russia though and the UK's specific witch trials, I have to agree. It seems to defy all judicial process to find a country guilty because at one stage they developed a substance that can be produced elsewhere now, and even have actions taken against that country before a trial or evidence of guilt.

Very dangerous to overturn due process, as we are all at risk, if we can be found guilty without due process and without substantive evidence and where the same rules of due process should apply as in a court of law.

galant Sapere aude Mon, 03/26/2018 - 05:21 Permalink

 

Dr Davies clearly stated "may I clarify that no patients have experienced nerve gas poisoning in Salisbury and there have only ever been three patients with significant poisoning."

What evidence is there that any went to Porton Downs? What is your point about "symptoms"?

Your assumption that the Skripals are in danger if their condition or where they are being treated is also unsubstantiated.

It begs the question that the Skripals are more likely to have been the victims of a Russian assassination attempt than a British one, of which there is also at this time no evidence.

Skripal was a spy for the British, with documented involvement with MI6s Steele and his infamous Trump smear dossier (funded indirectly by Clintons) -- all who might prefer to see his mouth shut.

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JohninMK galant Mon, 03/26/2018 - 06:10 Permalink

The doctor quoted was probably not a 'general doctor'. He is Director of Emergency Medicine at the hospital which would imply a degree of specialisation, maybe even a consultant, as well as being senior.

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Sapere aude JohninMK Mon, 03/26/2018 - 17:31 Permalink

Emergency medicine which if you check it out is accident and emergency, but that represents everyday accidents and emergencies of which poison gas is not one he or the hospital are geared up to treat.

He is a consultant not director? Someone seems to be getting confused with Steven Davis, who is clerkship director of Emergency Medicine except its some way away from the Salisbury Hospital in the UK....2120 L Street NW, Suite 450, Washington, DC 20037 and a different guy at a different hospital.

Steven Davies, is a consultant at the Salisbury Hospital mainly responsible for Accident and Emergency patients, which in the normal run of events are RTA's and similar, and would likely have no special skills in biological or chemical warfare, let alone the resources to treat it.

Patients exhibiting symptoms would never be at his hospital, but inevitably patients who were concerned at being exposed might be, but his comments simply apply to his hospital and even then with certain text being deliberately taken out by some of the posters on this site.

 

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Silver Kiwi galant Mon, 03/26/2018 - 06:18 Permalink

So if Skripal was the Russian close to the Kremlin that was the source for Steeles dossier the Clintons would be very nervous if the FBI investigator general starts poking around asking too many tricky questions. It's not unlike Bill and Hillary to clean house when things get a little too close to the open. 

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Greed is King Silver Kiwi Mon, 03/26/2018 - 10:38 Permalink

People have been Arkancided for less, it`s not only the FBI investigation into the Steele dossier that Skripal has information on, and it`s not only the Clintons who would be very nervous of that information finding its way into the public domain; there`s many a high ranking (very high ranking) British person who want to keep the secrets that Pablo Miller, Christopher Steele and Skripal have stumbled upon. That`s one of the reasons the British Government is desperately trying to offload the blame onto Russia, but what a stupid kack handed way of doing it !!.

The Kremlin dossier is only part of it though, it also involves China and Russia`s challenging of the Wests stranglehold on the worlds economic system, wealth and resources, and it`s also about child procurement from Haiti, Africa etc and the Island of shame much frequented by American and British VIP`s.

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Sapere aude galant Mon, 03/26/2018 - 17:22 Permalink

NO. Dr Davies did not state that. You see you have left out data, i.e. no patient in Salisbury has experienced THE SYMPTOMS OF THE CORRESPONDING NERVE POISONING.

Your comments seem home made.

Likewise when he mentions IN SALISBURY he is referring to the hospital he works in, where its unlikely patients exhibiting symptoms would be sent to as they don't have the skills or the resources to treat chemical/nerve agents.

Likewise the gentleman was talking about the ONE hospital he works in and where with the best will in the world, he is skilled in emergency medicine, not chemical or biological warfare, so patients exhibiting symptoms would likely not be even treated in that hospital but in Porton Down itself where they have the facilities.

"Gentlemen, let me note about your article on March 14 (" Nearly 40 people asked for medical help after poisoning in Salisbury ") 

I want to clarify that no patient IN SALISBURY has experienced the SYMPTOMS of the corresponding nerve poisoning We took only three patients with a significant degree of poisoning.Many people turned to the emergency room concerned about the possibility of poisoning. 
None of them had symptoms of poisoning and no one needed treatment. No one blood test . Ydeno deviations No member of the public has not suffered from the effects of chemical agents 
Signed:. Stephen Davies Consultant Physician ambulance Salisbury hospitals

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Greed is King Sapere aude Mon, 03/26/2018 - 10:25 Permalink

Quote: You said, "Why do they not update on whether they are alive or where? Use your brain. If someone made an attempt on your life would you want them knowing how you were doing, or where you were?".

A daily update on their condition would be very useful for furthering the official allegations, and if they are indeed seriously ill from an attempted assassination then they will be under armed guard 24/7; that`s why !!, the absence of such updates detracts from the official allegations !!.

Remember Litvinenko ?, we were subjected to constant bedside reports and interviews with him, he was surrounded by cameras news reporters and police around the clock, who were not wearing any protective clothing whatsoever,  and he had supposedly been poisoned by a highly contaminating radioactive substance.

It`s all BOLLOCKS, it`s a smokescreen, it`s sleight of hand to deflect our attention from the really serious issues affecting Planet Earth, and it`s also a ploy to transfer the blame for the looming shit storm away from those who have caused the grandfather of all shit storms, (the Neo-Con Globalist Deep State) and onto the shoulders of the "enemy".

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Muc Metals Sapere aude Mon, 03/26/2018 - 23:39 Permalink

Yes 10mg will kill instantly, if the delivery is guaranteed to delivery that amount and that can only be done intravenously.

 

You didn't read that Wikipedia article:

The median lethal dose (LD50)—the exposure required to kill half of a tested population—as estimated for 70 kg human males via exposure to the skin is reported to be 10 mg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VX_(nerve_agent)

 

These 10 mg are for VX. Since that other stuff is 5x to 8x more toxic, LD50 would  be around 2 mg per 70 kg person skin exposure. BTW: LD50 intravenous for VX is 7 µg/kg (read that Wikipedia VX article). For a 70 kg person this would be 490 µg =~ 0,49 mg VX total and ~ 0,1 mg total for Novichok. 

  

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WTFUD Mon, 03/26/2018 - 03:52 Permalink

Det. Sgt Nick Bailey the only Copper involved; is he a cop or the Spook who was carrying the nerve agent in his walkie-talkie?

The police in the UK cannot be trusted, even going to as far as to provide cover for the pedophiles in the Government & BBC.

 

BlueDune Mon, 03/26/2018 - 03:53 Permalink

Excellent questions. Excellent article.

zero chance of MSM picking it up.

Or to paraphrase Upton Sinclair: "It is difficult to get a journalist to ask a question, when their salary depends on not asking it"

 

SmittyinLA Mon, 03/26/2018 - 04:06 Permalink

“Russian-made” = Russian Communist now living and working in Israel?

Anybody could drive a mack truck through their double speak.

I saw one story allegedly claiming they were poisoned through their BMW's ventilation system, that kinda points to Germany by their logic.

This is all about selling more weapons for the desired war with Russia, primarily to get the public's attention away from government corruption and illegal "wars for dollars" and of course massive debts run up bribing the populace to vote left.

JimmyRainbow Mon, 03/26/2018 - 04:11 Permalink

only to add that the iranians were able to produce novichok with household chemicals/available fertilizers/pesticides.

wiki is your friend

thats the whole thing about novichok, they were thought as something easy to do.

and thx brits to draw every ones/terrorists attention to them.

kellys_eye Mon, 03/26/2018 - 04:45 Permalink

You can tell that not only the whole Skripal event is manufactured but that the media are complicit in promoting it too by their clear and obvious reluctance to pin down the politicians with any questions that may lead to answers that let the cat out of the bag.

But like most of the 'news' these days, people think that it matters do their own research and make up their own minds.

adonisdemilo Mon, 03/26/2018 - 04:57 Permalink

"--To the best of our knowledge--"

I recall that particular phrase being hammered home by Tony (fucking war criminal) B-LIAR as justification for bombing Saddam's Iraq back into the stone age.

That hasn't ended well either.

It's high time Ministers in the Government started behaving as Ministers should, and clear out their so called "advisors" who seem to be playing along with the "it must be Russia" theme.

I'll bet that NONE of them had ever heard of Novichok so how come it was identified so quickly and WHO was the first person who came up with this information.

Government Ministers should be asking THIS person how and from where did they get their information.