Where Volkswagen Cars Go To Die

An aging football stadium in Michigan. A decrepit paper mill in Minnesota. A sun-bleached patch of desert in California.

These are the lots where Volkswagen is storing the hundreds of thousands of diesel vehicles that included software to help them cheat US emissions testing as the company races to buyback a huge chunk of its inventory ahead of a deadline agreed to as part of its settlement with the US government, per Reuters.

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Under the terms of its landmark settlement, if 85% of the 500,000 cars VW promised to repurchase haven't been bought back or fixed by June 2019, the company will face higher punitive payments.

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Luckily for VW, the company says it has already repurchased 83% of these vehicles.

Back in 2015, the company admitted to one of the biggest corporate scandals of the millennium: Installing software in its diesel cars to cheat US emissions test.

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The company later pleaded guilty to several felonies, agreed to three years probation, an paid more than $4 billion in fines.

Meanwhile, it was also required to buy back any car that had been affected by its strategy.

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According to a court filing, as of Dec. 31, Volkswagen had repurchased 335,000 diesel vehicles, resold 13,000 and destroyed about 28,000 vehicles.

As of the end of last year, VW was storing 294,000 vehicles around the country. The company has sent more than 400,000 letters offering buybacks and reimbursements.

Comments

toady ThanksIwillHav… Sun, 04/01/2018 - 14:16 Permalink

They have a bunch of them at the Silverdome in Pontiac. I've been working to get one of the passats  (or a bunch) out of there, but I've been unsuccessful so far.

I don't give a shit about emissions... I've been trying to fake paperwork to say the cars are a year or two newer. I don't live in a city, so I don't have to do emissions testing, and those passats go about 50 miles to the gallon. Plus they're high quality German engineering.

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Shillinlikeavillan Four chan Sun, 04/01/2018 - 14:43 Permalink

Guess who the biggest polluter of them all is?

 

The US Gubermint... Even China doesn't hold a candle to US.Gov either(think real hard about where its coming from and you may have a "aha!" moment...)

 

Ironic how some people are 100% complacent with the environmental scam...

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ldd Conscious Reviver Sun, 04/01/2018 - 23:03 Permalink

a colleague bought a new diesel car. asked him why? he said they are now very clean. thought to myself - a very polluting fuel is less very polluting.

there was a push many years ago to get these diesel passenger vehicles mainstream. now every country that pushed these policies are suffering severe pollution issues and are now pushing policies to phase them out. i wonder if this was oversight, incompetence, lining pockets or just pushing the can down the road.

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A_Huxley ldd Mon, 04/02/2018 - 00:26 Permalink

A country did the math.  They thought they could get away with more energy and reduce the importing exchange rate.

Good power for a car, truck, van, suv and transport.  Less spending on energy imports every year as a country.

The health side was incompetence.  They could have asked experts on what that energy mix would do to lungs.

 

 

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OverTheHedge A_Huxley Mon, 04/02/2018 - 01:43 Permalink

If you wanted to be bitter and twisted, you might think that the government encouraged one type of fuel over another, using tax breaks to make motoring cheaper, then, having sucked everyone in, turned the tables, upped the tax, and sucked even more money out of their pockets, whilst declaring loudly, "It's  for the children". 

But only a bitter, impoverished ex-tax-payer might think that.

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philipat OverTheHedge Mon, 04/02/2018 - 02:52 Permalink

Does anyone seriously think that the US manufacturers weren't doing the same? If so, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you at a very good price.

This was always a politically driven move against Germany connected to German support for and continuation of sanctions against Russia. Expect more now that Germany has given the green light to Nord StreamII. I'm guessing, the way things are looking, Deutsche Bank will be finished off. BUT that will have severe consequences from Derivatives on the Global Financial system so The Cabal will have to be sure they are ready for the next phase of attack against Trump.

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snblitz ldd Mon, 04/02/2018 - 13:44 Permalink

There are light duty diesel vehicles in the US which are effectively zero emission.

I own one.  My truck emits a tiny amount of CO2 and water using the SCR/DEF pollution control system. (VW's problem diesels did not use this system).

In fact these vehicles emit so little pollution that electric cars running on oil, natural gas, or coal generated electricity emit far more while consuming more fossil fuels:

https://www.finitespaces.com/2018/02/14/electric-cars-use-twice-as-much-oil-as-diesel-vehicles/

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UmbilicalMosqu… various1 Mon, 04/02/2018 - 07:58 Permalink

"This comment chain of this site is very funny!

Someone posted a single word: silverstone 10 seconds before my full comment, and then edited to full text. And so my comment is on the next page and his is second, lol.

And as you see here, find the link in the chain and voila first page."

 

 

Just try to make a comment and get back to the original page. Nuts!

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sodbuster asteroids Sun, 04/01/2018 - 23:48 Permalink

Have had 2 Terrains and an Equinox since 2011. Have been happy with them. A bit under powered but well appointed and got decent mpg. All mine were AWD. Also had a Lincoln MKC. Good pep, decent mpg and a joy to drive, but it is prolly a step above in price and quality. Am thinking about a Terrain or Equinox with the diesel. May have to try one out. Already have a diesel pickup so could just as well have another diesel around. What's with the down votes? Must we all conform to the wishes of others? 

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smallblockchevy350 RU4Au Mon, 04/02/2018 - 00:17 Permalink

Bad move.you're about ready for new CV joints, hub bearings, struts, tierods, etc. on that car with an alignment and they'll probably sell you on brakes and tires too. Expensive. Within 15K miles the steering wheel will start to shake slightly at high speed if it hasn't already and it only gets worse from there.

Throw in the wildcard Rube Goldberg design factors present in German-engineered cars these days and that's a recipe for disaster. I hope your AAA dues are paid up.

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de3de8 smallblockchevy350 Mon, 04/02/2018 - 07:27 Permalink

Had a 12 Passat diesel. 42 around town and close to 60 on a trip. Had 115k miles and still had original brakes, struts/ shocks/ even windshield wipers. I did all the maintenance myself which saves a ton of $$$. What did it for me was the exhaust urea injection took a shit with the 200 miles to "no start" message. Parked it till got appt to turn in. VW gave me 20 k for 5 year old car that I only had routine maintenance invested and i kept the the third set of new tires just installed. Cost me just over 30k new. One of best cars ever owned and was go to vehicle for family members when ever took a trip. Would still have if not for the urea injection issue.

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a Smudge by an… truthseeker47 Sun, 04/01/2018 - 18:51 Permalink

The whole discussion is bent. Everybody who looks at the data can see that these euro turbo diesels outperform in overall efficiency. Hands down winners. A lot of the DOT regulations require a certain level of cleanliness at IDLE and not in OPERATIONAL PHASE.

Pretty much all gas engines are horrible at idle. As if it's not self apparent that running an engine at a stop light is not just horribly inefficient, it's just plain stupid.

Gas engines run efficiently at a specific RPM. Above or below that threshhold.......

Aw whatever, my buddy the diesel mechanic tells me the big trucks, Mac, Freightliner, etc have been playing the same games for years. This is just more protectionist bullshit. A hidden welfare program for USA made crap.

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Grimaldus a Smudge by an… Sun, 04/01/2018 - 19:52 Permalink

The super-efficient VW diesel was threatening the eco-criminals utopian vision of hybrids and electrics so something had to be done. An orchestrated hit by those progressives at war with cheap hydrocarbon energy.

Where did this attack come from? The progressive criminals at the EPA of course.

It is unpossible to find lower scum than progressive eco-criminals. They really dont care that cheap hydrocarbon energy has improved the quality of life for mankinds poor masses more than any one single thing.

How bad are these people? The same progressive eco-criminals condemned millions and millions of poor people to death by malaria after they went to war ( with junk science) against DDT at a time when malaria was almost wiped out across the entire world. Because "bird egg thickness"  matters more to them than human life.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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