Saudi Crown Prince Admits Saudis "Financed Terrorist Groups", Blesses Israeli Statehood

Saudi Arabia's crown prince Mohammed bin Salman (MbS) admitted in a wide-ranging interview in The Atlantic that Saudi nationals have funded terrorist groups, and quite stunningly - that Israelis are entitled to live peacefully on their own land - yet another indicator that the relationship between Riyadh and Tel Aviv is strengthening.

When it comes to financing extremist groups, I challenge anyone if he can bring any evidence that the Saudi government financed terrorist groups. Yes, there are people from Saudi Arabia who financed terrorist groups. This is against Saudi law. We have a lot of people in jail now, not only for financing terrorist groups, but even for supporting them. -The Atlantic

Bin Salman's comments come days after a U.S. judge rejected Saudi Arabia's request to dismiss lawsuits accusing it of involvement in the 9/11 attacks.

The cases are based on the Justice Against Sponsors of Terrorism Act (Jasta), a 2016 law that provides an exemption to the legal principle of sovereign immunity, allowing families of the victims to take foreign governments to court.

The families point to the fact that the majority of the hijackers were Saudi citizens, and claim that Saudi officials and institutions "aided and abetted" the attackers in the years leading up to the 9/11 attacks, according to court documents. -Middle East Eye

MbS also told The Atlantic when asked if Jewish people have a right to a nation-state in at least part of their ancestral homeland:

I believe the Palestinians and the Israelis have the right to have their own land. But we have to have a peace agreement to assure the stability for everyone and to have normal relations...  We have religious concerns about the fate of the holy mosque in Jerusalem and about the rights of the Palestinian people. This is what we have. We don’t have any objection against any other people. This is what we have. We don’t have any objection against any other people”

Saudi Arabia does not currently recognize Israel - maintaining for years that normalizing relations all depends on the withdrawal from Arab lands captured in the 1967 Middle East War - territory Palestinians claim to be theirs for the establishment of a future state.

"There are a lot of interests we share with Israel and if there is peace," MbS added. "There would be a lot of interest between Israel and the Gulf Cooperation Council countries and countries like Egypt and Jordan”

Behold the "Coalition to fight terrorism"

Recall that the first two stops Donald Trump made as President were Saudi Arabia and Israel, where he met with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin "Bibi" Netanyahu and Saudi Arabia's King Salman to discuss a coalition to fight terrorism - which, aside from the US and Israel, includes Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, the UAE, Bahrain, Oman and Jordan - assembled to fight the Islamic State and curtail Iran's regional ambitions.

Last November, the 32-year-old bin Salman announced plans to "wipe terrorists from the face of the earth," by forming a coalition of 40 Muslim countries to defeat ISIS.

Speaking at a summit of defence ministers from across 41 majority-Muslim countries he spoke of a need for a "pan-Islamic united front" against terrorism.

He said: “In past years, terrorism has been functioning in all of our countries... with no coordination among national authorities.

"That ends today, with this alliance."

The first official meeting of the new Muslim alliance was held a week later - just two days after an attack at a Mosque in Egypt killed over 300 people, including 30 children - in what was called the country's worst terrorism incident.

Meanwhile, bin Salman traveled to Washington D.C. in March, where he began what's been described as a cross-country road show to lure American firms and investment to Saudi Arabia - a crucial component of his "Vision 2030" plan to wean the ultraconservative kingdom's economy off its reliance on oil.

Since being appointed heir to the thrown, MbS, 32, has embarked on what fawning US media have described as an "ambitious" reform agenda. He has earned-widespread praise for lifting restrictions on women driving while loosening rules around male-female interactions and also reining in the country's religious police.

In an effort to wean the Kingdom off of its dependence on oil, MbS launched his Vision 2030 initiative - a plan that relies on foreign investment.


Cognitive Dissonance Mon, 04/02/2018 - 19:27 Permalink

Say it ain't so Joe, say it ain't so.

Isn't it amazing how septic tank creatures can crawl out of the shit tank, hose off a little and expect to be accepted as squeaky clean.

<It helps to have a large supply of oil in that tank with you.>

Dindu Nuffins Kafir Goyim Mon, 04/02/2018 - 20:03 Permalink

Jews and Arabs deserve to be categorized together probably because Jews and Arabs have a history of cooperation, like at the gates of Toledo where Jews opened the doors for the Muslim invaders and became administrators of the conquered Christians. It doesn't make us safer when Israel gets its way in the Middle East.

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mobius8curve Dindu Nuffins Mon, 04/02/2018 - 20:21 Permalink

Because Abraham fathered Ishmael who was the father of all the muslims:

Genesis 16:3  And Sarai, Abram's wife, took Hagar the Egyptian, her handmaid, after Abram had dwelt ten years in the land of Canaan, and gave her to Abram her husband to be his wife.

Genesis 16:10-12  And the angel of Jehovah said unto her, I will greatly multiply thy seed, that it shall not be numbered for multitude.  (11)  And the angel of Jehovah said unto her, Behold, thou art with child, and shalt bear a son; and thou shalt call his name Ishmael, because Jehovah hath heard thy affliction.  (12)  And he shall be as a wild ass among men; his hand shall be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell over against all his brethren.

And then Abraham fathered Isaac who was the father of the Jews:

Genesis 17:19-21  And God said, Nay, but Sarah thy wife shall bear thee a son; and thou shalt call his name Isaac: and I will establish my covenant with him for an everlasting covenant for his seed after him.  (20)  And as for Ishmael, I have heard thee: behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceedingly; twelve princes shall he beget, and I will make him a great nation.  (21)  But my covenant will I establish with Isaac, whom Sarah shall bear unto thee at this set time in the next year.

And Jesus came through the linage of Isaac who spiritual Israel became:

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J S Bach beepbop Mon, 04/02/2018 - 20:43 Permalink

"Blesses Israeli Statehood"

In other words:

"Fucks Palestinian Justice And Independence".

That's about the gist of it.

This just shows what the ruling "Saudi" racial genotype is: They are crypto-jews who serve their demonic master just as do their unholy brethren in the usurped lands of Megiddo.

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Zorba's idea J S Bach Mon, 04/02/2018 - 23:08 Permalink

I believe the ancient adage is "the enemy of enemy is my friend" Sunni vs Shia rivalry is presently driving at 100 mph throughout the ME. Israel know how the game is played and will play it as long as it can expand its footprint and water resources. someday what goes around will come around which is always the inevitable with alliances built on vengeance.

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Bemused Observer Zorba's idea Tue, 04/03/2018 - 09:01 Permalink

In the ME, the idea that the enemy of your enemy could be your friend is not as duplicitous as it sounds. A common theme throughout the Bible is of the brothers-at-odds, or of sons from a common father (origin) dispersing to create the nations of man. Not only might that enemy be your friend, he may well be your brother.

ME rivalries are much more complex and messy than our simple Western notions of 'black hats, white hats'. This is why we are forever fucking things up over there, and misjudging who our friends are.

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mobius8curve Is-Be Mon, 04/02/2018 - 21:12 Permalink

2 Peter 1:5-11  Yea, and for this very cause adding on your part all diligence, in your faith supply virtue; and in your virtue knowledge;  (6)  and in your knowledge self-control; and in your self-control patience; and in your patience godliness;  (7)  and in your godliness brotherly kindness; and in your brotherly kindness love.  (8)  For if these things are yours and abound, they make you to be not idle nor unfruitful unto the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.  (9)  For he that lacketh these things is blind, seeing only what is near, having forgotten the cleansing from his old sins.  (10)  Wherefore, brethren, give the more diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never stumble:  (11)  for thus shall be richly supplied unto you the entrance into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.


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Is-Be mobius8curve Mon, 04/02/2018 - 21:41 Permalink

 forgotten the cleansing from his old sins.  (10)  

There you go with that guilt trip again!

There is no forgiveness of sins. Nobody can absolve you of them. You take them to your grave, and beyond. They are a savage learning experience. Acknowledge them, own them. They are yours.

Don't like it? You don't have to. But what you do have to do is enter the halls of your ancestors, covered either in glory or dishonour.

To seek escape from the consequences of your actions is to try to revert to infancy.


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Is-Be A Sentinel Tue, 04/03/2018 - 00:40 Permalink

Humility, self-sacrifice and forgiving enemies. 

The red pill, take the red pill.

Those "virtues" were were thrust into "Jesus'" mouth originaly by Josephus at the behest of the Flavian emperors , and then endorsed by Constantine at the Council of Nicea.

I wonder why?

Perhaps because these attributes were desired by Rome of its citizens and slaves?

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greven40 mobius8curve Tue, 04/03/2018 - 01:32 Permalink

Galatians 4:21-31- "Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law?  For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.  But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.  Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.  For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.  But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
  For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband.  Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.  But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.  Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman. So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free."

The "judeo-christian" zionists call the desolate "God's chosen", and claim Christians are just a temporary parenthesis because they say Jesus failed to fulfill the prophecies spoken of Messiah and will have to come back and give the world to the followers of Pharisaism(judaism).  Amazing how their doctrine matches that of the antichrists.

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vato poco NidStyles Mon, 04/02/2018 - 19:44 Permalink

yeah yeah yeah we're all cool and jaded and dryly cynical here at ZH. everybody wants to be tyler durden.

I think this guy's on the level. I think he means to drag SA, and by extensioon the entire islamic world, out of the 7th century and into the family of nations. kicking and screaming the whole way, of course, because .... that's how they roll. 

in addition to the charm offensive & worldwide happyface road show - and when has any SA king/king-to-be ever done that before - he's reforming SA culture & society at a Trumpian pace. and throwing in prison the old guard when they dare to squawk. (wally b. talal doin' any more wahhabbistic agitating these days? he's not, is he)

what sold me was when he went to visit the Pope of Egypt's Coptic Christians - HE went to the POPE - (who knew the Coptics had their own pope? not me) sat and made nice small talk along the lines of 'how can I help?' (!) and then a king of a royal family that is very sensitive to any & all symbolism sat for a picture in front of a painting of Jesus Christ. (!!)  and then said something about israel that didn't sound like something a slobbering psychopath jihadi asshole/typical ZH idiot bot might say.

big doings are afoot, gang - and maybe just maybe good things are headed our way

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Dindu Nuffins vato poco Mon, 04/02/2018 - 19:56 Permalink

Joining the "family of nations" means what in your dialect of hebrew? Free sex changes for everyone? It doesn't get better for the rest of us goys simply because Israel hasd infiltrated and turned a mutual enemy to its bidding. It just means they will have a new focus, quite probably stuffing us with 3rd worlders with renewed intensity.

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