CIA & MI6 To Relocate Skripals To America, Give Them New Identities: Report

Sergei and Yulia Skripal will likely be offered "a new life in America in an attempt to protect them from further murder attempts," reports The Sunday Times.

Intelligence officials at MI6 have had discussions with their counterparts in the CIA about resettling the victims of the Salisbury poisoning. “They will be offered new identities,” a senior Whitehall figure said.

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Security sources said Britain would want to ensure their safety by relocating them with one of the “five eyes” countries, the intelligence-sharing partnership that also includes America, Canada, Australia and New Zealand. -The Times

The obvious place to resettle them is in America, because they’re less likely to be killed there and it’s easier to protect them there under a new identity,” an intelligence source familiar with the negotiations added. “There’s a preference for them to be resettled in a five-eyes nation because their case would have huge security implications.”

The former double agent and his daughter are both conscious according to senior sources, and will soon begin helping authorities with their investigation into the March 4 nerve agent attack that left the pair comatose in a Salisbury, UK park and sickened 21 others

Senior sources revealed both victims were conscious and would soon begin helping investigators with their inquiries into the nerve agent attack on March 4. Yulia, 33, a Russian citizen, has rejected demands by the Russian embassy in London that it provides her and her father with consular support — a move that has convinced British officials she might move to the West permanently. -The Times

Many are wondering how the pair survived exposure to one of the deadliest nerve agents on the planet, as a 1mm drop is the lethal dose - about the size of a small drop of rain. 

Sergei, 66, is said to be awake - however his recovery is said to be "further behind" his daughter. One source told The Times that ministers "hope they can both assist us with what happened soon." That said, the Skripals "would likely never be the same again" and that the poisoning may have left them requiring "ongoing medical care."

So far we've been told the Novichok was either smeared on a doorknob, at Sergi's wife's graveside, the air vents on Sergei's BMW, and a "gift from friends" opened by Yulia at Zizi's restaurant. Whatever the case, it also sickened 38 others

Skripal is a former double agent who was imprisoned in Russia in 2006 after the Kremlin discovered he had been cooperating with British secret services since 1995. He was released and pardoned by then-president Dmitry Medvedev in 2010, and relocated to the UK as part of a spy swap. According to The Telegraph, Skripal reportedlyhas ties to former MI6 agent Christopher Steele

The Telegraph understands that Col Skripal moved to Salisbury in 2010 in a spy swap and became close to a security consultant employed by Christopher Steele, who compiled the Trump dossier. 

The British security consultant, according to a LinkedIn social network account that was removed from the internet in the past few days, is also based in Salisbury.

On the same LinkedIn account, the man listed consultancy work with Orbis Business Intelligence, according to reports. -The Telegraph

The Telegraph's report implies that Skripal - still tied to Russian intelligence, could have been a source for some of the claims in the "Steele Dossier," a 35-page document full of salacious and unverified claims about Donald Trump, which was paid for by Hillary Clinton and the DNC and arranged for by opposition research firm Fusion GPS.

If Skripal was involved in the Steele dossier - it would greatly expand the list of who might want him to wake up dead. 

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said Skripal wasn't on Russia's radar after the 2010 spy swap. “He was handed to Britain as a result of an exchange. So, why should Russia hand in a man that is of any importance or that is of any value? It’s unimaginable," said the official. "He’s of zero value or zero importance." 

The Skripals were poisoned using what the UK says was a "military grade" nerve agent developed by Russia from the "Novichok" family of toxins - however Russia's representative to the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) told state-run television in mid-March that the U.S. and U.K. also developed the military-grade nerve agent used in the attack.

Speaking at the 87th session of the OPCW Friday, Shulgin suggested the “unfounded” accusations from the West should be redirected at themselves. “[It] may very well be that the substance used [in Skripal’s poisoning] may have come from the stocks” of the U.S. and U.K. -Newsweek

“Our British colleagues should recall that Russia and the United Kingdom are members of the OPCW which is one of the most successful and effective disarmament and non-proliferation mechanisms," Shulgin said. "We call upon them to abandon the language of ultimatums and threats and return to the legal framework of the chemical convention, which makes it possible to resolve this kind of situation."

Following the Skripal poisoning, the UK and several of its allies responded by expelling Russian diplomats - with the Trump administration kicking 60 Russians out of the country, and the UK expelling 23. Russia returned "fire" with the expulsion of several foreign diplomats, and a demand that Britain scale back its diplomatic mission in Russia - affecting over 50 jobs. 

Russia's Ambassador to the UK, Alexander Yakovenko, says that London's reluctance to share information on the March 4 poisoning of former double agent Sergei Skripal has led Moscow to suggest that London authorities actually perpetrated the crime.

“We have very serious suspicion that this provocation was done by British intelligence,” Yakovenko told Russia's NTV channel - adding however that Moscow had no direct proof, but that the UK's behavior constitutes strong circumstantial evidence in support of their theory. 

UK can't confirm origin

Adding to the reasons for concern over what many are calling a rush to judgement over the Skripal attack, the chief scientist from the UK's Porton Down military laboratory facility, Gary Aitkenhead, told Sky News that they had been unable to prove that the novichok nerve agent used to poison the Skripals came from Russia.

"We were able to identify it as novichok, to identify that it was military-grade nerve agent," Aitkenhead said. "We have not identified the precise source, but we have provided the scientific info to government who have then used a number of other sources to piece together the conclusions you have come to."

The chief scientist said that establishing the Novichok's origin required "other inputs," some of which are intelligence based and which only the government has access to.

Aitkenhead added: "It is our job to provide the scientific evidence of what this particular nerve agent is, we identified that it is from this particular family and that it is a military grade, but it is not our job to say where it was manufactured."

And with that, it looks like the Skripals will be whisked away to the United States to live out the rest of their lives under new identities. 

Comments

FilthyHabits Sun, 04/08/2018 - 20:23 Permalink

Did anyone actually see this happen or was it a body double? 

 

I call bullshit.

Why doesn’t some one, maybe a professional, journal some fucking facts.

As others have listed below, I can not believe that the two of them are ‘ok’. If anyone understands basic chemistry or basic neurobiology, that shit will kill any living mammal in less than 30 seconds.

Not even a possibility that some one could ‘survive’ even a botched attempt. If some one was ‘slumped’ over from being ‘exposed’ he is fucking dead.

Funny / Sad part of it is they LIE like a fucking 5 year old. They suck at it and 95% of the western world believes them?

No wonder half of our nation is retarded.

Expendable Container IntercoursetheEU Sun, 04/08/2018 - 21:10 Permalink

"IS YULIA SKRIPAL THE LIVING DEAD?"

https://europeansworldwide.wordpress.com/2018/04/07/is-yulia-skripal-th…

'How can Yulia and her father be disposed of now the pair has served their purpose. The callousness of the British authorities cannot be underestimated.  The Skripal family pets, a beautiful black Persian tabby cat and two cute hamsters were vital for the investigation yet the defenceless creatures were sealed in the Skripal family home.

Permanently guarding the Skripal family home the cops must have heard the wailing of the distressed cat as, deprived of food and water, the animal slowly perished. Neighbours warned the police; surely these pets were vital to their inquiries? This poses yet another of scores of questions being avoided by the authorities.'

VERY FISHY BUSINESS INDEED!

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Baron von Bud Dabooda Sun, 04/08/2018 - 22:46 Permalink

How do we know the Skirpals were even gassed. There's no evidence it even happened. We were told they were lying on the park bench and EMTs were called and they were taken away. By who and who saw them at the hospital? Who treated them - MI6? And now they're going to disappear into America so nobody can find them and ask questions. It's just so much bullshit that a sane man looks at his government and asks, "Are you really this stupid?"

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tonyw Baron von Bud Mon, 04/09/2018 - 06:00 Permalink

the article above says " Whatever the case, it also sickened 38 others.  "

No, only three people were ill the Skripals and the LEO according to the hospital management.

A lot of people went in to the hospital worried they might have been contaminated but they were not.

" And with that, it looks like the Skripals will be whisked away to the United States to live out the rest of their lives under new identities. " 

At best they have been told stories about how the big bad Russians poisoned them

or bribed  with a bit more money - he had already sold his country once for some dollars so why not a few more?

 

 

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rtb61 Expendable Container Mon, 04/09/2018 - 01:22 Permalink

They are not dead, the US is just extremely good at providing new identities, no one will ever be able to find them, not ever. Right now getting a new identity from the US as a foreign is equivalent to a death sentence. They'll be hidden alright, deep down where no one can find them.

So apparently the whole thing a lie, although there is a good change they were drugged with something pretty strong in the initial instance, something the detective sergeant aimlessly wander the streets apparently got a does of (clumsy clutz), scapolomine perhaps.

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Blankone Perimetr Sun, 04/08/2018 - 21:18 Permalink

While they could be dead I doubt it. However, future individuals may be disappeared into "protective custody" when in fact they have been killed. I just do not believe they will do so with these two. It would be too detrimental if others in the know, or others they hope to entice to flip over, came to believe that.

It's just removing evidence from inspection, investigation and interrogation. Just like fake shooting schools must be bulldozed, building remains shipped as scrap to China etc..

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Jack Oliver FilthyHabits Sun, 04/08/2018 - 20:34 Permalink

The entire FUCKING thing has been BULLSHIT from the get- go !!! 

‘New Identity’ means that they will likely be FUCKING killed ( if they haven’t been already) but will continue to ‘live on’ a la ‘ Weekend at FUCKING Bernie’s’ !!!

The only NEW identity Sergei is likely to get - is one of a FUCKING tranny - living the American dream ! 

Perhaps his own ‘reality’ SHOW !! 

There is still NO evidence that the poisoning ‘incident’ EVER FUCKING occurred !!! 

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MaxThrust ThuleNord Sun, 04/08/2018 - 21:26 Permalink

" He made an oath to his country and he broke it for personal gain "

So far your the only person who has made this comment and your right. If I gave and oath to uphold secrets and then violated that oath for money power or some other personal gain then my life should be at risk of termination.

 

But with the Skripal case, not one media outlet has mentioned this angle of the story. It's easy to know why. They have a script from MI6 and are told to follow it or else.

 

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Joiningupthedots FilthyHabits Sun, 04/08/2018 - 20:57 Permalink

Its all bullshit and the Skripals where in on the gig from the very beginning.

Get them to America,new identities, disappear, never talk about it in public EVER.

You couldn't make this shit up. Straight form the X Files LOL.

The more you examine it the more you come to the conclusion its been a 5 eyes fuck up from the beginning.

As Ghoutta/Douma (and finally the Syrian civil war) was falling they tried desperately to force Russia's eye off the game and they came up with this nonsense.

Confront Russia militarily in Syria and they all die so this is the best alternative they could come up with.

I can't imagine the Skripal's will be missed by anyone really which was probably the enttire point of the excersize.

If the Americans can tolerate Lee Harvey Oswalds Russian wife they can tolerate anyone, right?

 

 

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veritas semper… FilthyHabits Sun, 04/08/2018 - 20:59 Permalink

We were not shown one picture/video of them during the so called attack,in the hospital or after the miraculous recovery.

Yulia is a Russian citizen and the Russian embassy and her cousin were prevented from having a contact with her . UK is nullifying   4-5 international laws this way.

We don't even know if they are alive or not,there is no proof of that.

If they are still alive ,this is at least a kidnapping of a foreign citizen ,Yulia . They will be killed if still alive . Done under the radar ,private ceremony . Never to be heard of again.

And the fact that C!A is offering this ,is a telling ,isn't it.

I said from the very beginning that this was a joint US/UK operation: look at the number of diplomats expelled by UK and US. US closed a consulate too and gave fresh sanctions to Russia. They are not very subtle,are they?

 

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bh2 FilthyHabits Sun, 04/08/2018 - 21:35 Permalink

Yes. And this comment is precious:

"The former double agent and his daughter are both conscious according to senior sources, and will soon begin helping authorities with their investigation..."

No doubt they will be able to help authorities figure out how they wandered around for hours after being poisoned by an agent which kills instantly -- with no delays for a nice lunch.

This whole affair stinks of serious bogus.

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not dead yet FilthyHabits Mon, 04/09/2018 - 00:38 Permalink

If there really was a nerve agent involved, especially military grade, the town would have been cordoned off, residents restricted to their homes, and crawling with military. Most likely there is a 99.9% chance the local hospital is not equipped to handle patients that have been infected with a nerve agent. Porton Down which deals with this stuff most likely has an isolation ward and medical personnel on staff in case there is an oops moment in it's operation. If they had been poisoned by a nerve agent they would be at Porton Down. Notice in the initial story 43 people were claimed to get treatment which was debunked by a hospital staff member. Then it was 103. Now it's 20 something. The story may be unraveling but unless they've been following the story closely most of the planet still believes the dastardly Rooskies dun did it.

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