Chemical Weapons Watchdog Can't Identify Source Of Nerve Agent Used In Skripal Attack

Echoing findings by UK government scientist Gary Aitkenhead, the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) said Thursday that its investigators had "confirmed the findings of the UK relating to the identity of the toxic chemical that was used in Salisbury"

Effectively the lab confirmed that the military grade nerve agent used to poison Sergei Skripal and Yulia Skripal during an attack which reportedly took place at a public shopping center was, in fact, Novichok - a nerve agent developed by the Soviet Union, even if the OPCW did not explicitly name it. But crucially, like the scientists at Porton Down, the OPCW was unable to identify the origins of the nerve agent, per the Associated Press.

The news is the latest hit to the UK government's "official" narrative that Russia masterminded the attack on the Skripals without a shadow of a doubt. UK Foreign Minister Boris Johnson was adamant that the government had incontrovertible evidence that Russia masterminded the attack - most likely with the explicit approval of Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Johnson had even threatened to pull the UK from the World Cup in retaliation. Ultimately, the UK government's accusations led to more than 25 countries expelling one or more Russian diplomat, with Russia retaliating in kind.

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This despite the UK Foreign Office backpedaling in the weeks after the escalation, going so far as to deny that it had ever claimed that the nerve agent used on the Skripals had come from Russia - and even deleting a tweet where it claimed the Novichok nerve agent had been produced in Russia.

Now, it appears the OPCW has come to the same conclusion as Aitkenhead & Co., who had reportedly faced significant pressure to confirm the origins of the agent used in the attack - a pressure they resented.

The international chemical weapons watchdog has confirmed Britain’s finding that a former spy and his daughter were poisoned with a nerve agent.

The report Thursday says Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons investigators “confirm the findings of the United Kingdom relating to the identity of the toxic chemical that was used in Salisbury.”

It says the chemical was "of high purity." The summary does not name Novichok - the name that was previously given by British Prime Minister Theresa May - but says the details of the toxin are in the full classified report.

It does not identify the source.

The tests were carried out by four independent laboratories affiliated with OPCW and samples were transported under a "full chain of custody", according to the report.

According to Sky News, tests carried out by experts from the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) showed the ner ve agent was found in environmental samples collected in Salisbury.Blood tests also revealed that the chemical was found in blood samples taken from the Skripals and Detective Sergeant Nick Bailey, the police officer who first attended the scene.

Still, Johnson didn't hesitate to call the results "conclusive".

“There can be no doubt what was used and there remains no alternative explanation about who was responsible – only Russia has the means, motive and record." Or, anyone else with an organic chemistry lab for that matter.

“We will now work tirelessly with our partners to help stamp out the grotesque use of weapons of this kind and we have called a session of the OPCW executive council next Wednesday to discuss next steps,” the UK foreign secretary added. “The Kremlin must give answers.”

We doubt the Kremlin, which is about to engage in a hot war with the US in Syria, will care to give answers.

Comments

Cognitive Dissonance Thu, 04/12/2018 - 08:49 Permalink

It's always difficult when so-called 'watch dogs" don't toe the company line. And isn't it interesting that the 'watch dogs' full report is 'classified'.

Who, exactly, classified the report. Isn't 'classification' an official government activity?

Just askin'

Adolph.H. Joe Davola Thu, 04/12/2018 - 08:51 Permalink

Surely nothing to do with wagging the dog after this other British Syrian debacle:

https://sputniknews.com/military/201804121063460158-british-forces-syri…

This probably explains why the hysterical childless lesbian British premier so loves oblong undersea nautical objects that contain a variety of aerodynamically shaped bodies. This or other anatomic diversions for the feeble minded...

Panem et circenses.

While apparently mother Russia is getting ready for an all out nuclear war:

http://www.newsweek.com/russia-prepares-nuclear-war-us-instructing-citi…

https://russia-insider.com/en/fact-moscow-has-nuclear-missile-shield-ny…

Don't poke the bear, you've just been warned. That's the part the Frenchies already included in their master plan:

https://russia-insider.com/en/macron-begs-russia-not-retaliate-against-…

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It's okay not to be a Jew.

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DownWithYogaPants gladih8r Thu, 04/12/2018 - 09:06 Permalink

Of course they can't identify the source.  Would you want to be the guy who walked in to your boss' office and says

"it's from our side?"

You might end up on the Clinton death list.

On a hilarious note: Our guys have to be wincing.  All this skepticism on the people's part is making them painfully aware we are on to their false flags.  No one uses the word false flag when arguing the point but that's the name for it.  They used to do this shit before and never a question was raised.

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Slack Jack DownWithYogaPants Thu, 04/12/2018 - 09:07 Permalink

This latest chemical attack in Syria is yet another FALSE FLAG.

Just like all the previous chemical attacks in Syria were FALSE FLAG events.

Just like the Skripal "chemical attack" in Britain was a FALSE FLAG event.

Trump is a Jew (so is Theresa May, by the way).

http://www.preearth.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=630
http://mileswmathis.com/trump.pdf

It seems the Jews want war,.... yet again.

If you wish to see how real wars are conducted, read:

Proof that Adolf Hitler was a double agent.

http://www.preearth.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=1174

It seems pretty weird when you first read it, but its clearly true.

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philipat FoggyWorld Thu, 04/12/2018 - 09:48 Permalink

Why would such a report be classified if the intention was to reveal the truth? Possibly to protect more of the lies by May and Johnson.

Also, the MO has now changed again. This SIXTH version now states that the "attack" took place in a busy shopping Centre. If so, how come more people were not affected (and remember the Head Physician of the Salisbury Hospital very quickly went public to refute reports of "Over 30 Victims being treated for CW poisoning" by stating; categorically, that nobody in the Hospital was being treated for CW poisoning (including, presumably, the Skripals?).

But the main question that still remains is that if indeed the Skripals HAD been exposed to a nerve agent 5-10 times as potent as VX or Sarin, how come they are still alive? And how come Yulia continues to be denied Consular access and both Skripals, according to some reports, have been offered new identities in the US? Surely there couldn't be an attempt to prevent them from speaking? Nah, our Governments would never lie to us..........

 

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MacGruber giovanni_f Thu, 04/12/2018 - 13:43 Permalink

“Or anyone with an organic chemistry lab.” Says the arrogant ZH author who probably knows nothing about organic synthesis. And the asshats on here that think they know what purity means. It’s actually very hard in some cases to come up with a pure material without side products. The fact that this material is pure from a chemistry perspective, and not dickhead know nothing conjecture on purity, means that it was likely produced militarily. Syncophants abound on this stupid site anymore, you all want everything to be a conspiracy, and you base it on the zero knowledge you have on any of the subjects you chime in on. Probably all flat earthers too.

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bh2 giovanni_f Thu, 04/12/2018 - 14:44 Permalink

Would have been cheaper, easier, and for more immediately deadly to release members of the cobra family onto the premises and then collect them after the fact.

That a "classified" nerve agent was used raises some question whether the agent was even man-made. And it is plainly obvious even from a trotting horse that it was not a "military grade" nerve agent, else these people would have been dead almost instantly on contact.

Goebbels pointed out that propaganda cannot be effective if it relies on easily disproved claims.

This effort at creating a propaganda "event" (like others nearby) has been rendered stupid by rookie errors. It looks more like a false-flag perpetrated by inept morons. Certainly not by any competent national security service.

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Slack Jack Slack Jack Thu, 04/12/2018 - 09:13 Permalink

Remember, the evil people, Theresa May, Stoltenberg, Trump and the rest, are damning Russia with obvious lies.

The Novichok nerve agents don't even exist.

HERE IS THE PROOF:

The Novichok nerve agents are supposedly much more toxic than the nerve gases VX or Sarin (and yet the Skripals are still alive!?).

Mirzayanov's book, published in 2008, contains the formulas he alleges can be used to create Novichoks. In 1995, he explained that "the chemical components or precursors" of Novichok are "ordinary organophosphates that can be made at commercial chemical companies that manufacture such products as fertilizers and pesticides."

https://www.amazon.com/State-Secrets-Insiders-Chronicle-Chemical/dp/143…

Basically, Mirzayanov claims that it is relatively easy to make the Novichok nerve agents.

So, some enterprising Arabs could buy a few chemists to make a few tons of it and then spray it all over the little Satan.

Do you really think that the Jews who run the United States would allow the publication of information that could lead to thousands of deaths in Israel?

Do you really think they would protect the publisher of such information by giving him residence in the United States?

Remember, Mirzayanov was given residence (and a University position) in the United States after he was kicked out of Russia.

There are also a number of "people who should know" that have stated that there is zero solid evidence for the existence of the Novichok nerve agents. For example: Robin Black in Development, Historical Use and Properties of Chemical Warfare Agents (2016):

"In recent years, there has been much speculation that a fourth generation of nerve agents, ‘Novichoks’ (newcomer), was developed in Russia, beginning in the 1970s as part of the ‘Foliant’ programme, with the aim of finding agents that would compromise defensive countermeasures. Information on these compounds has been sparse in the public domain, mostly originating from a dissident Russian military chemist, Vil Mirzayanov. No independent confirmation of the structures or the properties of such compounds has been published."

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2018/03/the-novichok-story-is-i…

And, Alexander Shulgin, Russia's representative to the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (2018):

"There has never been a ‘Novichok’ research project conducted in Russia,... But in the West, some countries carried out such research, which they called 'Novichok,' for some reason."

CONCLUSION: The Novichok nerve agents don't even exist.

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FireBrander Slack Jack Thu, 04/12/2018 - 09:26 Permalink

From an interview with someone that worked with Novichok in the 80's.

The Skripals are still alive for 1 of 2 reasons:

1. The exposure was too low.
2. They were given an antidote shortly after being exposed.

Now the problems:

1. If the exposure (at their home) was too low, how did the Skripals leave home, end up on a park bench unconscious, to be found by a police officer whom becomes instantly, gravely, ill. And if the dose wasn't enough to kill the 2 targets with a direct exposure, how in the world did it sicken 21 people, hours later outside and away from the initial place of exposure?

Kier Pritchard...Chief Constable of Wiltshire Police...21 people were taken to hospital after exposure to the nerve agent...

2. In order to give someone an antidote, you have to know exactly how they were poisoned...so the antidote in this case would have had to have been administered by the people that poisoned the Skripals right after the poising as the UK Government has said nothing about saving the Skirpals lives via an antidote at the hospital.

A lot of light could be shed on the truth by the Skripals themselves...but both are being held in isolation and the plan is for both of them to get new identities and be shipped to the USA...so they WILL NEVER TALK about what happened.

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Slack Jack GreatUncle Thu, 04/12/2018 - 09:54 Permalink

The Skripals are still alive for 1 of 2 reasons:
1. The exposure was too low.
2. They were given an antidote shortly after being exposed.

A killer would probably find it difficult to administer a dose low enough not to kill.

One drop containing 10 milligrams of VX (or 1 milligram of Novichok) absorbed through the skin is fatal.

The antidote atropine must be administered immediately unless the dose is exceedingly low. How did they know to administer it.

If the dose was exceedingly small then those who administered the Novichok did not mean to kill.

If those who administered the Novichok meant to kill, the Skripals would be dead.

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Jim in MN FireBrander Thu, 04/12/2018 - 09:51 Permalink

The IDEA for these weapons came from Soviet scientists, but there's no evidence that any of it was ever MADE in the USSR or Russia.

 

So there's that.

 

It's past time for the evil globalist thugs to get caught red-handed using WMD against their own cities. 

 

May the good Lord deliver unto us a brave whistleblower.

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Tarjan Slack Jack Thu, 04/12/2018 - 15:31 Permalink

Jack,

Just FO; go away. You are just wasting space here with your constant cut-and-paste bullshit.

 ~ 

Edit: Jack, I see from your further comments that you had some useful insights to offer. So, stop with the cut-and-paste BS and do continue to offer us thoughts of value.

 ~ 

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EuroPox gladih8r Thu, 04/12/2018 - 09:07 Permalink

If there was an “almost complete absence of impurities”, the number of places that could make it is small.  The basic chemicals are relatively easy to put together but for ‘almost no contaminants’, you would need very pure ingredients.  It could only have been made so pure very deliberately to ensure it would be difficult to trace (through the fingerprint of contaminants).  Since Russia had no motive, the finger must point at the UK or the US as the likely source (possibly France).

Remarkable that it was so ineffective on 3 people...  also remarkable that Yulia Skripal walked out of hospital only a week after she was said to be ‘at death’s door’...

Edit: good news!  A poll has shown that only 1 in 5 people in the UK believes the 'official' story.

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EuroPox Sandmann Thu, 04/12/2018 - 10:34 Permalink

It seems there is no 'antidote' (as we would understand it) - they will probably have been given Atropine, to relieve some of the symptoms.  It works by blocking acetylcholine (a chemical transmitter that controls muscle contraction) as the body eliminates the nerve agent.  Nerve agents attack the enzyme that controls acetylcholine, leading to an overproduction and muscle malfunction.  That is also why they will have been held in a coma - to keep them as relaxed as possible.

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el buitre Shemp 4 Victory Thu, 04/12/2018 - 09:38 Permalink

That was in the old days when treaties were honored.  

 

Speaking of that, Yulia has not "walked out of the hospital."  She is in custody.  As a Russian citizen, the Russian embassy in London is entitled to send a diplomat to meet with her under international law, which is not being honored.  She cannot talk to the press.  There is talk of shipping her off to the USSA and giving her a false identity, apparently against her will.  It appears that she wants to return to Russia ASAP.  Must be Stockholm syndrome /sarc

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Slack Jack BaBaBouy Thu, 04/12/2018 - 08:59 Permalink

This latest chemical attack in Syria is yet another FALSE FLAG.

Just like all the previous chemical attacks in Syria were FALSE FLAG events.

Just like the Skripal "chemical attack" in Britain was a FALSE FLAG event.

Trump is a Jew (so is Theresa May, by the way).

http://www.preearth.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=630
http://mileswmathis.com/trump.pdf

It seems the Jews want war,.... yet again.

If you wish to see how real wars are conducted, read:

Proof that Adolf Hitler was a double agent.

http://www.preearth.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=1174

It seems pretty weird when you first read it, but its clearly true.

In reply to by BaBaBouy