America's Future No Longer "Looks Sustainable In A Market Context": Deutsche

Earlier this week, when commenting on the latest CBO budget forecast, which now expects the US deficit will soar over 40% in 2019, and surpass $1 trillion by 2020 (in reality it may surpass $1TN by September: yesterday we showed that the US deficit was $600 billion in the first 6 months of the year, run-rating $100BN/month), we pointed out something amusing: "the CBO is now estimating that there will be no recession within the next ten years - making this the longest economic cycle without contraction in US history, lasting no less than 234 months from June 30 2009 through Dec 31, 2028."

It now appears that at least one bank was rather amused by our observation.

In an overnight note looking at US debt and deficits, asking "where will it all end", Deutsche Bank writes that this month the US expansion will become the second longest business cycle since 1854 and adds that:

"when we read the latest Budget and Economic Outlook CBO report on Monday night we couldn’t help but highlight that the CBO is now estimating that there will be no recession within the next ten years (at least) - thus comfortably making this the longest economic cycle without contraction in US history...234 months and counting from June 30 2009 through December 31 2028."

DB continues:

If correct, this would be around double the length of the 1991-2001 expansion - the current record holder. It seems infeasible to imagine such a scenario but with any long-term economic forecasts once you go beyond the next year or so there is often a convergence to the trend rate of growth so it’s understandable how they could come up with such analysis even if it is unlikely to be accurate.

It all sounds just a little familiar, only instead of showing the "pro forma" chart of the expansion duration assuming the CBO is right, Deutsche showed a chart of how long the business cycle has been to date (as noted, the second longest since 1854):

Quirky business cycle extrapolations aside, DB's Craig Nicol then notes that even more interesting in the numbers, was the trend implied by Figure 1, which suggests that the US will run an almost ever increasing budget deficit until at least 2047 - the end of their forecast period.

And here is where the CBO's assumptions turns absolutely bizarre: such a stretch, DB calculates, would mean a run of at least 45 years of deficits when you stretch it back to the start of the run in 2002. It means that by 2047 we will have hit nearly 10% which is roughly equivalent to the 2009 GFC deficit.

The only parallel period in terms of a consistently deteriorating budgetary position through time is that from 1948 to 1983 when a surplus of 4.5% turned into a deficit of 5.9%. Interestingly over that period, 10y Treasury yields rose over 960bps.

But wait, it gets better, because in the CBO's "Baseline" forecast, i.e. assuming everything turns out "as expected by the model creators", Federal Debt to GDP will breach 100% by 2030, and 150% by 2046. Putting this in context, since 1940 the "psychological" barrier of 100% debt/GDP has only ever breached 100% in 2 years and that was in the post-war spending related 1945-46 period.

In other words, we may need a war distraction soon... Oh wait.

Just as concerning is that the CBO is not alone in this forecast of terminal unsustainability. The next chart shows the BIS' forecasts alongside the CBO. They have a slightly different definition of Government debt but it is quite clear that the future profile is the same.

So what do the chart above indicate? Stated simply, none of these forecasts will come true. 

As DB predicts, "when we look at all the graphs above, the overriding feeling is that there is little chance of these forecasts being correct purely on the basis that markets won’t allow it and the authorities will thus respond. Surely under this sort of debt profile, eventually bond yields will rise to prohibitive levels for activity and debt sustainability and either Governments will have to cut back spending dramatically or attempt to create inflation. Central banks may also have to help by printing more money again to buy/monetise the debt."

In its conclusion, the German bank warns that while the CBO's forecasts "are a good guide to the direction of travel under current policy, growth and demographic trend assumptions" they "don’t look sustainable to us in a market framework" and adds that it will be hard to tolerate this surge in debt especially as other countries are also expected to see Government debt rise over this period according to authorities such as the BIS.

So what happens when the market finally admits the future is unsustainable? In short, bad things, or as Duetsche Bank puts it politely, "a meaningful event."

Hence we would expect market pressure to create a meaningful event to change this path over the years ahead.

The one question some more cynical readers may ask, is how experiences the "meaningful event" first: the USA or... Deutsche Bank. Then again, on along enough timeline...


Ron_Mexico Fri, 04/13/2018 - 14:07 Permalink

Quick, we need another black (er, mixed race) President.  Congress and the Fed spent like drunken sailors for him. That's the only way I can see to keep this biatch goin'.

small axe Fri, 04/13/2018 - 14:16 Permalink

but but but you guys said before that everything was OK...


Deutsche Bank pulls head from nether region, utilizes brain for first time in years.

Lore Fri, 04/13/2018 - 14:17 Permalink

Just think positive; ignore the negative. When in doubt, lie. There's no unemployment. Debt can be restated at will.  "Stimulus" has no consequences.  Student debt is just fine.  Pensions are fully funded. 

Everything is ALWAYS wonderful in Bizarro Orwellian La-La Land. 

Good graphs. Compliments to the builder.

VWAndy Fri, 04/13/2018 - 14:28 Permalink

 How far do they think the corruption can scale?

  Thats the part thats most unsustainable. Producers must be paid well too. The very notion that non producers should be taken care of before the producers is Darwinian. Yet thats how the system is being run. The most stupid get the most funding. 

  That stall thing might be the best way to get people to take responsibility for themselves. The mental gymnastics poople will go thru to duck out on any semblance of taking responsibility for even the smallest of things. Mind boggling.   

the_river_fish Fri, 04/13/2018 - 14:28 Permalink

The one question some more cynical readers may ask, is how experiences the "meaningful event" first: the USA or... Deutsche Bank

Well, that is not difficult to answer.

The European banking crisis was never resolved. Greece, 10 years on from the financial crisis still has a non performing loan ratio of 42%. Italy, Ireland, Portugal all over 10%.

Who holds the largest counterparty risk (derivatives and the likes) globally?

It isn't the USA, it is a bank, who could it possibly be?

east of eden Fri, 04/13/2018 - 15:02 Permalink

And so, what do you think the chances are that the US will continue it's 'expansion', for another ten years?

It's all just so much fucking horse shit.