US Syria Strategy "A Succession Of Failures Divorced From Reality"

American involvement in Syria - "from Obama through Trump" - was described to Axios by a Republican foreign policy expert as "a succession of failures divorced from reality." 

The expert, which Axios says wishes to remain anonymous but "has decades of experience analyzing the region," emailed his devastating indictment of the U.S. Syria "strategy" over several administrations - noting "The inevitable result was failure.

Presented below are said expert's thoughts: 

  • "Syria is a microcosm of U.S. foreign policy in general. We never had a coherent strategy beyond simplistic generalities, childishly selecting our goals based on what we wanted, not what was necessary, or even possible. The inevitable result was failure. Wobbly Assad won, powerful us lost. Rust-bucket Russia accomplished its goals, triumphant us achieved none."

  • "The Obama Administration bears the principal responsibility for Syria and Libya but not for Iraq and Afghanistan or the succession of failures elsewhere. Timid intervention did not work for the former; full-scale intervention did not work for the latter. "

  • "But the military are not miracle-workers. These failures sprang from cobbled-together strategies based on comforting illusions that have repeatedly proven not to be true, with objectives shaped not by the constraints of reality but the indulgent selection from an a la carte menu. There is little evidence that repeated failure has had a significant impact on policymakers or specialists."

  • "There is a price to be paid for incompetence. Few now fear us; fewer respect us. As our opponents increase in number and strength, the prospect of defeat at their hands will grow. But the more immediate result will be irrelevance."

Ouch! No wonder this mystery foreign policy expert wishes to remain anonymous. This is a sobering take.

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Troy Ounce Déjà view Mon, 04/16/2018 - 01:57 Permalink

 

Take this article together with: 

  • the believe in a piece of paper called the US$,
  • thinking the stock market is reality,
  • thinking that debt does not matter,
  • thinking of being able to sell out your middle class and get away with it,
  • thinking that rich people are good politicians and get things done
  • thinking you can get away with manipulation markets like Libor, gold, silver, etc
  • thinking you can get away with spying on everybody around you
  • the American Dream, which is "a dream",
  • BS by CNN, MNSBC and other media outlets on an industrial scale, 

and you have MAGA.

One can only believe in above nonsense if one gets paid, directly or indirectly, by this nonsense. Hello World.

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Adolph.H. TahoeBilly2012 Mon, 04/16/2018 - 04:47 Permalink

Incompetence sums it all up. 

Whether you look at the bloated U.S. MIC innovations that don't float nor fly or simply don't roll, or at the foreign policy that doesn't hold water, or at the economy that sinks and is overpriced, or at the educational system that truly brainwashes younger generations and does not produce any good technician or scientific, or the infrastructure that is already way past beyond repair, or at the health care system that is a banker's joke, or at the toxic gender bending food you are spoonfed with, or at the political oppression that is probably worse than one former USSR, or at the taxes that are completely out of control, it is hard to see what makes America relevant nowadays. 

This might hurt The few good Americans that are left, but they all know how desperate the situation is. 

Bonus track: here's your debt:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlGdzduYjsA

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It's okay not to be a Jew.

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gdpetti Adolph.H. Mon, 04/16/2018 - 10:17 Permalink

Yes... but it all makes one 'Mad as Hell' until they realize WTF is going on and why... and to do that, you have to go esoteric... think Tree of Life... we used to walk with the gods it is said, right? the 'good gods'... in Eden... that was Earth in the previous Cycle... then the 'eve and the apple' moment... and the Fall... earth became Purgatory.... we started walking with the 'bad gods'... and have been ever since... Why? We learn from pain, not pleasure... or to the ratio of 100X.. that's the difference.. we learn from our bad/painful experiences 100 times faster, more effectively than our good/pleasurable experiences. Purgatory is run by these 'dark' gods/lords/shepherds... they 'feed' off of negative energy, so they first build their herds up large enough to do so... empires... then war, death, destruction, rape and pillage... in every way possible, any excuse needed etc... propaganda... feeds off of all previous BS we learn in school, church, media etc... which is helped by the continued urbanization of the herd... as any of the sheep left in the countryside remain more attuned to the  natural cycles, etc... less negative, less antagonistic, etc... there's a whole process to this 'divide and conquer' game... and the same rules of empire building are passed down to each new member of the flock or sheep dogs helping the 'dark' gods to rule over us... their herd...

The 'Jews', as a group, have been playing the role of sheep dogs much longer than any other organized group... and they do so to 'graduate' to become 'dark' gods in the next cycle.... but most Jews, like most Christians, etc don't know anything about WTF is going on, nor why... they are just sheep themselves, but they support their leaders, as all sheep do... they follow along... same with our markets... which is why the WallStreeters send out the memos long before they change directions.. to maintain control of the flock... as they are only the sheep dogs, not the dark shepherds/gods... who, like humans and our own livestock, don't live with them, but in a separate 'house'... they only 'visit'... to check on the herd, the fences, the corral, it's health... trying to keep the herd in the best 'condition' for consumption.... same as we do with our livestock.

This is how we all learn.... experience leads to bias, which requires choices, which lead to more and more until we 'wake up' enough to realize that we need to choose sides... stay in Platos' Cave and assist with the fake light show on the wall to distract and control the sheep in the corral/Cave.. or learn to get up, find the exit and leave... find the 'light'... outside... where reality exists... which is much, much different than all the BS we were taught inside... Truth is like that... and all sheep have to go through this process... which is why it takes so many incarnations... so many forms... from basic thought taking the classic 4 forms of water/earth/air/fire... to the basic cellular forms to latter flora and then fauna.. and on our planet and this section of the glaxay, the human form is used for further 'lessons' in self conscious awareness... as we 'know thyself'... and learn all is One... as we return... never having really left in anything but our minds. Forms/bodies being an interface for interaction... it's all actually thoughts... which is pointed out in the study of archetypes... there is a method to the madness... but it's a question of Choice and getting out of the way of yourself.

What is happening today, is the end of the Grand Cycle... the 'dark' gods and all their 'sheep dogs' seeking graduation to the 'dark side'... are setting up their NWO... on the corpses/ashes of their OWO.... they are coming out of the closet... and none of their puppets are needed any longer... and they usually end their orders in war... they feed off of negative energy... and to 'win' their NWO, they need it on a global scale.

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Erek Troy Ounce Mon, 04/16/2018 - 02:09 Permalink

"The Obama Administration bears the principal responsibility for Syria and Libya but not for Iraq and Afghanistan or the succession of failures elsewhere..."

What a crock of shit! Obama and every other president since WWI bears responsibility for everything the US has done or attempted in MENA and elsewhere, just by virtue of being president / commander-in-chief. Any president could have stopped this crap any time. But, no! The US and its western allies have been feely-fucking around in the Middle East for at least 100 years and have achieved nothing but chaos, pain, agony and distortion.

It's time to pack-up and go home and leave the Arabs, Persians, Jews and all the other peoples of MENA to work it out themselves. - I guess that's too much to hope for.

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Polynik3s Déjà view Mon, 04/16/2018 - 07:49 Permalink

“If there is not the war, you don't get the great general; if there is not a great occasion, you don't get a great statesman; if Lincoln had lived in a time of peace, no one would have known his name.” 

Three war poems? We get it. You are totally gay for war poetry. Why don't you and the Neocons form a great big circle jerk for Israel and their nukes? A big stadium, cream all over Israels warheads. Then ass fuck yourself with plutonium rods while quoting Teddy Roosevelt.

 

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Posa Mon, 04/16/2018 - 01:25 Permalink

US and Israeli policy -- especially "Operation Clean Break"--is to rule without challenge in the ME by creating failed states... That's what the US has done. On the neoCon Likud scoreboard, that's a success.

Delicieuxz Mon, 04/16/2018 - 01:32 Permalink

It is now confirmed that the US' claim that all its missiles hit their targets in Syria is a propaganda lie, and that Russia's claim of intercepting 71 of 103 or 105 missiles is either very accurate, or entirely accurate.

We know that the US claim is false right off the bat, because video proof shows one of the US' missiles being knocked out of the sky above Damascus:

https://youtu.be/Vx5ez_KuV5c

 

So, we know that the US' claim of all its missiles hitting their targets is false. But how false? And, conversely, how accurate is Syria and Russia's own claim about the number of missiles intercepted by old Soviet-era anti-missile systems?

 

Well, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, a UK-based anti-Assad human rights organization which is regularly quoted by US and UK mainstream news media, observed the US attack on Syria, and reported they witnessed in-excess of 65 of the US' missiles that Trump bragged about being successfully intercepted:

http://www.syriahr.com/en/?p=89324

 

And Syrian MP also cheered the overwhelming failure of the US' newest "smart" missile on Twitter:

https://twitter.com/ShehabiFares/status/985057769270235136

 

Additionally, Syria has just agreed to purchase a bunch more Russian anti-missiles after witnessing the performance of the ones they already have against the US, UK, and France's best missiles.

All in all, I think it looks like the US government is extremely humiliated by the overwhelming failure of its newest "smart" missiles, and is trying to cover up its extreme embarrassment. And the motivation for the US government to lie is obvious (though entirely unjustified):

 

The US government wants to protect its pride after a mostly-failed attack using its bragged-about newest "smart" missiles. It would be an absolute PR nightmare for the US if it was revealed that its best missiles were no match for Soviet ancient anti-missile systems (which Russia is selling much newer versions of).

The US' largely-failed attack is a huge threat to US arms sales, and to the appearance and assumption of US power, control, and domination.

And at the same time, the US likely wants to deny Russia the highly positive PR and marketing win for its anti-missile systems that the US / UK / France attack failure has created (hence Syria is now buying a bunch more anti-missile systems from Russia).

But the blatant propaganda lies that the US is now seemingly spreading are not justified by that.

AurorusBorealus Mon, 04/16/2018 - 02:07 Permalink

The students of Dulles, Brzezinski, and Kissinger in the American deep-state think themselves much more intelligent than they are.  They are paragons of the truism that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. They believe that they are pursuing realpolitik, but they misunderstand what realpolitik is and was.

They listen to a few lectures at Harvard and think themselves learned.  They sit for a semester or two at the knee of the court jesters of political science who hold the chairs in the overgrown wilderness of marble that was once a higher learning and think themselves wise.

These jester instructors ape and mimic the words of Machiavelli or Rochau: men who knew languages, who had read the classics, who had learned from Thucydides in the Greek.  The West once had serious thinkers.  Now it is a pantomime of education that the American potentates, magistrates, and lords of the West receive: a tale produced by children for children, a Walt Disney production, not a school of government.  The modern jester instructors sing a chorus the words of which they do not understand, and their students dance to the tunes of these penny pipers.

To these bastard heirs of Western Civilization, realpolitik means that might makes right and that might is required to set order to international affairs.  Nothing could be further from the truth.  Realpolitik means that ends must be measured by what means and resources are required to achieve them.  Realpolitik means that policy must be conformed to reality and to what is possible.  We do not create "new realities" as the idiot Karl Rove was quoted on Zerohedge as saying.

Such is the mindset of the fops, dandies, and functionaries who plot and scheme their little schemes, between cocktail parties and grands galas, in the salons and appartements that circle the Cour Royale in Washington: each little dilettante creating his own little reality as he goes about the chores of the l'ancienne aristocratie and the nouveau riche.  As the sun sets on empire, the guillotine of reality casts ever longer shadows over this circus playing in front of the Orange King.

David Wooten Mon, 04/16/2018 - 03:01 Permalink

"The Obama Administration bears the principal responsibility for Syria and Libya....Timid intervention did not work for the former;"

Don't think much of the Axios. They seem to think USG intervention was too timid. Should not have been any intervention.

"As our opponents increase in number and strength, the prospect of defeat at their hands will grow."

Rubbish. We have no significant opponents.  Too many countries have US as an opponent - and don't want US for one.

Dr. Bonzo Mon, 04/16/2018 - 03:03 Permalink

Why is it that my entire life these "policy" arguments are always framed in these narrow abstract terms devoid of any real-world considerations? How about that denial of reality?

These wars we've been stuck in since the early 1990s... they haven't panned out quite so well for the average American taxpayer or Joe Grunt or America as a country. But someone's making bank. 2~3 trillion in defense spending over 20 years. Somebody made out. Let's have that conversation.

Follow the money.

ExPat2018 Mon, 04/16/2018 - 03:54 Permalink

its amazing how many gullible Americans still believe the official govt and media 

The CIA went into Syria and stirred up a handful of jihadis to overthrow Assad.

Assad reacted.

Just as a US president would if BLM or Antifa tried to take over the govt.

I worked in Libya and that is exactly what the CIA did in Ben Ghazi.  and then told the gullible Americans that Ghaddaffi was going to kill his own people.

Total bullshit.  IN fact,,  I still communicate with former colleagues in Tripoli who say its a living hell now and not safe to walk the streets at night.

The Libyan army could have defeated those rebel rats (as they called them) within 24 hours if not for NATO bombing.

ExPat2018 Mon, 04/16/2018 - 03:54 Permalink

its amazing how many gullible Americans still believe the official govt and media 

The CIA went into Syria and stirred up a handful of jihadis to overthrow Assad.

Assad reacted.

Just as a US president would if BLM or Antifa tried to take over the govt.

I worked in Libya and that is exactly what the CIA did in Ben Ghazi.  and then told the gullible Americans that Ghaddaffi was going to kill his own people.

Total bullshit.  IN fact,,  I still communicate with former colleagues in Tripoli who say its a living hell now and not safe to walk the streets at night.

The Libyan army could have defeated those rebel rats (as they called them) within 24 hours if not for NATO bombing.

galant Mon, 04/16/2018 - 04:51 Permalink

"Syria is a microcosm of U.S. foreign policy in general. We never had a coherent strategy beyond simplistic generalities….”

Nonsense. The Wolfowitz doctrine has driven US Foreign policy for more than two decades. It is alive and well under Trump’s administration.

 In the UN, Haley parrots her predecessor John “Dr Strangelove” Bolton, a Bush UN appointee, war-hawk, supporter of regime change in Syria, and now Trump's national security adviser.

The plan, brainchild of Zionist Paul Wolfowitz in the 1990s, is to establish the US as a sole super-power regardless of the terrorism required to destroy any sovereign state that stands in its way, such as Syria at present.

Ask national security adviser Bolton if he disagrees.

Let it Go Mon, 04/16/2018 - 06:26 Permalink

When voting for Trump many Americans were seeking a world where the leadership in Washington would focus on bringing both jobs and money home rather than squandering it on foreign wars. Trump recently brought John Bolton into his inner circle as his next national security adviser, in some ways this is the very antithesis of America First and the policy of anti-interventionism.

History shows that countries are drawn or march into war for many reasons, however, as a nation moves towards war that does not mean many or most of that country's citizens are all that enthusiastic. This all circles back around to the current warmongering that has captured Washington and turned us into pawns in a high stake game where a miscalculation could release a wave of nuclear missiles into the sky. The article below contends the swamp creatures of the deep state now control Trump the same way they controlled Obama and the Presidents before them.

http://Silly Us We Thought We Were Voting For Something Else.html

XWeatherman Let it Go Mon, 04/16/2018 - 07:50 Permalink

Yes, Trump has apparently become infected with the virus and has morphed into a Deep State leashed Swamp Creature. 

 

Don't expect the Swamp to be drained until the U.S. voters elect presidents, reps, and senators who vow (and follow through with their promise) to SEVERELY cut funding to MIC Death Merchants and also don't vote for politicians who won't make this pledge (or won't follow through with their promise).

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