The Skripal Case: 20 New Questions That Journalists Might Like To Start Asking

Authored by Rob Slane via TheBlogMire.com,

While the world’s attention has been largely focused on Syria for the past couple of weeks, we must not forget the Skripal case.

The reason for this is that the two events appear to be inextricably linked, either because they show that the Russian and Syrian Governments are willing and able to use chemical weapons for their own ends, or because they show that the Governments of the United States, United Kingdom and France in particular are willing to use false accusations for their own ends.

Russia and Syria have been in the dock and apparently found guilty, but as ever the burden of proof lies with those making the accusations to show the certain evidence they have to back up their claims. However, the only thing that can be said with absolute certainty, regardless of which of these versions is correct, is that those who have made the accusations have not shown anything like the evidence needed to substantiate their claims.

Indeed, the biggest connection between the two events is not the “Who Dunnit” aspect, but rather the fact that guilt has been assigned and reprisals taken prior to the results of the investigations, and therefore before facts could be established with any certainty. Legally, morally and logically this is obvious nonsense, and it is a testament to the decline of educational standards in the West, and the triumph of emotional arguments over ones which appeal to facts and logic, that there are many who appear simply unable to grasp these very basic concepts.

Regarding the Skripal case, there are a mountain of unanswered questions and a multitude of inconsistencies. Yet it is not even this which makes the case so odd. Rather, it is the fact that whenever a question is answered – for example, the medical condition of the Skripals – it merely seems to throw up even more questions, inconsistencies and oddities.

So it looks like we shall just have to keep plugging away, asking questions in order to ensure that:

a) This case does not disappear down the Memory Hole and

b) The great and the good are reminded that the narrative they have presented so far is only consistent in so much as it is utterly inconsistent – consistently inconsistent, you might say.

I have already asked 50 questions around this case so far (here and here), and what I want to do is ask 40 or so more which, at the time of writing, urgently need answering. However, rather than bore you with them all at once, I will set out 20 of them in this piece and then – God willing – another 20 or so in the next day or so.

As before, if there are any journalists out there who possess inquisitive minds, and who have a desire for truth, please do feel free to start posing some of these questions to the appropriate persons or authorities.

1. It is known that Sergei Skripal worked for many years for MI6, having been recruited in 1995 by one Pablo Miller. Curiously, Mr Miller also lives in Salisbury and, according to some reports, the two of them met regularly in Cote Brasserie, which is in the centre of the City. Since Mr Skripal and his MI6 “handler” were in regular contact, it is not unreasonable to suppose that Mr Skripal may have still been working for MI6. Can this be categorically refuted by the UK Government?

2. If the answer to the first question is that Mr Skripal was working for MI6, it would not be unreasonable to suppose that he may have had connections with the Porton Down facility, firstly since it has long-standing connections with MI6 and secondly because of its location, less than 10 miles from his Salisbury home. Can Porton Down confirm whether Mr Skripal ever had any connections to the facility, either directly or indirectly?

3. It has been reported that there are plans to demolish Mr Skripal’s house. If this is the case, it would seem to be a rather extreme action. Why is it not possible to decontaminate the house, rather than destroy it?

4. The advice given by Public Health England (PHE) to anyone who may have come into contact with the substance which poisoned Sergei and Yulia Skripal was as follows:

“Wash the clothing that you were wearing in an ordinary washing machine using your regular detergent at the temperature recommended for the clothing. Wipe personal items such as phones, handbags and other electronic items with cleansing or baby wipes and dispose of the wipes in the bin (ordinary domestic waste disposal)… Other items such as jewellery and spectacles which cannot go in the washing machine or be cleaned with cleansing or baby wipes, should be hand washed with warm water and detergent and then rinsed with clean cold water. Please thoroughly wash your hands with soap and water after cleaning any items.”

Assuming that the advice given by PHE was referring to the same substance that was apparently found on the door handle of Mr Skripal’s house, why were people who believed they may have got the chemical on their clothes or other items not advised to demolish their homes?

5. Alternatively, why is warm water, detergent and baby wipes deemed insufficient for decontaminating Mr Skripal’s house?

6. These two very different courses of action — the demolition of the house, and the instruction to wash with warm water and soap — would tend to suggest that the substances are of an entirely different nature to one another. Is this the case?

7. If so, what accounts for the difference?

8. Is it possible that there were other chemicals in Mr Skripal’s house, which were more toxic than those that PHE advised could be treated with warm water, soap and baby wipes?

9. The Russian Foreign Minister, Sergei Lavrov, has claimed that one of the laboratories which analysed environmental and blood samples on behalf of the OPCW – the Spiez laboratory in Switzerland – has stated that it found:

“…traces of the toxic chemical BZ [3-Quinuclidinyl Benzilate] and its precursor which are second category chemical weapons.”

The Spiez laboratory has refused to confirm or deny his statement, instead issuing “a non-denial, denial”:

“…the only institution that could confirm what Mr. Lavrov was saying is the OPCW. We cannot confirm or deny anything.”

Since the UK Government has seen the analysis of the original samples, and has seen a copy of the OPCW’s classified report, can a spokesperson – perhaps the Foreign Secretary – go on record to categorically state that Mr Lavrov’s claim is false?

10. Did the analysis at Porton Down identify any traces of BZ in either the blood samples or environmental samples?

11. If Mr Lavrov’s claim about the Swiss laboratory is correct, would this explain the somewhat ambiguous language used by Porton Down in the evidence they submitted to the High Court, in which they stated that:

“Blood samples from Sergei Skripal and Yulia Skripal were analysed and the findings indicated exposure to a nerve agent or related compound. The samples tested positive for the presence of a Novichok class nerve agent or closely related agent” [my emphasis added]?

12. Mr Lavrov also claimed that the Spiez laboratory had been surprised to find “the presence of type A-234 [“Novichok”] nerve agent in its virgin state…” [my emphasis]. Their surprise comes from the high volatility of the substance in question, and the relatively long period between the poisoning and the sample-taking. This also appears to accord with the OPCW’s official summary of their findings, which stated that the laboratories that had tested the samples had found that:

“…the toxic chemical was of high purity. The latter is concluded from the almost complete absence of impurities.”

Since A-234 is said to be of high volatility, degrading quickly, can Porton Down offer any explanation as to how the samples collected by the OPCW, weeks after the poisoning, could have contained A-234 of “high purity”?

13. Furthermore, one of the scientists who worked on the development of the A-234 substance in the Soviet Union, Leonid Rink, has stated the following:

“OPCW data saying that a toxic chemical was used proves that it was not Novichok… Novichok is a complex nerve-paralysing substance consisting of a mixture of many different components and additives that decompose in different ways. If a pure substance was found, it could not be Novichok.”

Can the UK Government, or an expert from Porton Down, go on record to state that Mr Rink’s assertions are incorrect?

14. Mr Rink also stated that if “pure Novichok” was indeed present in the substance found on the handle of Mr Skripal’s front door, both Sergei and Yulia Skripal would have died on the spot had they come into contact with it. Can the UK Government or experts at Porton Down comment on how Sergei and Yulia Skripal, along with Detective Sergeant Nick Bailey, could have come into contact with A-234 of “high purity”, and still be alive and well?

15. Can the UK Government or experts at Porton Down comment on how Sergei and Yulia Skripal could have come into contact with A-234 of “high purity” at Mr Skripal’s house, and apparently suffer no ill effects for the next 3-4 hours, including driving into the City Centre, going for a drink, and eating a meal?

16. A-234 is reputed to be unstable and vulnerable to water. Indeed, one of the chemists who allegedly worked on its development, Vil Mirzayanov, claimed that, “only an idiot would have used Novichok nerve agent in humid conditions.” Since it was foggy in Salisbury on 4th March, and rained that evening, can a spokesperson for the UK Government tell us why they think the Russian state chose to use such an ineffective method of assassination?

17. The theory that the substance had been placed on the handle of Mr Skripal’s front door first surfaced around 22nd March, more than two weeks after the poisoning and after a number of other theories had been mooted and debunked. During that time, there were not only periods of heavy rain but also heavy snowfall on the weekend of 17th-18th March. Can a spokesperson for the UK Government, or an expert at Porton Down comment on how a substance that disintegrates in water was not only found on the door handle weeks later, but was also apparently in a “pure form”?

18. The symptoms of “Novichok” agents are said to be as follows:

“Acetylcholine concentrations then increase at neuromuscular junctions to cause involuntary contraction of all skeletal muscles. This then leads to respiratory and cardiac arrest (as the victim’s heart and diaphragm muscles no longer function normally) and finally death from heart failure or suffocation as copious fluid secretions fill the victim’s lungs.”

The symptoms for poisoning by 3-Quinuclidinyl Benzilate (BZ) are as follows:

“BZ toxicity, which might occur by inhalation, ingestion, or skin absorption, is an anticholinergic syndrome consisting of a combination of signs and symptoms that might include hallucinations; agitation; mydriasis (dilated pupils); blurred vision; dry, flushed skin; urinary retention; ileus; tachycardia; hypertension; and elevated temperature (>101deg F).”

One of the witnesses in the Maltings on 4th March, Freya Church, described the condition of Mr Skripal and his daughter as follows:

“On the bench there was a couple – an older guy and a younger girl. She was leant in on him. It looked like she’d passed out. He was doing some strange hand movements, looking up to the sky. I felt anxious, like I should step in but they looked so out of it. They looked like they had been taking something quite strong.”

Which description — A-234 or BZ — fits more closely with Ms Church’s statement of the Skripals’ condition on 4th March, and indeed their subsequent recovery?

19. The method for decontaminating BZ is as follows:

“Gentle, but thorough flushing of skin and hair with water or soap and water is required. Bleach is not necessary. Remove clothing.”

As for A-234 (Novichok), according to Gary Aitkenhead, Chief Executive at Porton Down, there is no known antidote.

Which of these most closely fits the advice given by PHE to those who believed they may have become contaminated, to use warm water and detergent and to thoroughly wash their hands with soap and water?

20. Can Porton Down confirm that it has not had any samples of BZ in its possession in 2018?

Comments

Fireman Fri, 04/20/2018 - 05:06 Permalink

Why did the lying, bumbling Brits launch their "Skripal meets Monty Python" sketch?

Best explanation by far from the indomitable Saker

"Let’s look at the situation just a few months ago. The US was defeated in Syria, ridiculed in the DPRK, Trump was hated in Europe, the Russians and the Germans were working on North Stream, the British leaders forced to at least pretend to work on Brexit, the entire “Ukrainian” project had faceplanted, the sanctions against Russia had failed, Putin was more popular than ever and the hysterical anti-Trump campaign was still in full swing inside the USA.

The next move by the AngloZionist elites was nothing short of brilliant: by organizing a really crude false flag in the UK the Empire achieved the following results: The Europeans have been forced right back into the Anglosphere’s fold (“solidarity”, remember?) The Brexiting Brits are now something like the (im-)moral leaders of Europe again.

The Russians are now demonized to such a degree that any accusation, no matter how stupid, will stick. In the Middle-East, the US and Israel now have free reign to start any war they want because the (purely theoretical) European capability to object to anything the Anglos want has now evaporated, especially now that the Russians have become “known chemical-criminals” from Ghouta to Salisbury At the very least, the World Cup in Russia will be sabotaged by a massive anti-Russian campaign.

If that campaign is really successful, there is still the hope that the Germans will finally cave in and, if maybe not outright cancel, then at the very least much delay North Stream thereby forcing the Europeans to accept, what else, US gas."

Burn the Kremlin, old chap....It almost worked before!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMZmoQLMHaY

BennyBoy JohninMK Fri, 04/20/2018 - 05:56 Permalink

 

 Novichok is five to eight times more effective than VX gas, the lethal nerve agent that was used to assassinate the North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un's half-brother, Kim. Novichok effects are rapid, usually within 30 seconds to 2 minutes.

Yet Novichok couldn't kill 2 people when it was on their home doorknob, car air filtration system and on the victims. The victims recovered without docs being aware there was a "nerve agent" involved.

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EuroPox BennyBoy Fri, 04/20/2018 - 06:08 Permalink

The truth is obvious but will never be admitted - they will just lie some more.  Instead of trying to trap them with logic, we are probably better simply ridiculing them.  Don't give them the attention they seek - let them know that we know they are stupid!

 

They ARE losing already - only 4 in 10 Brits supported May's attack on Syria, Brits did not 'rally arounds the flag' - which is what I am sure May expected.  This number will only go down as people learn the truth. They are learning that they can no longer lie with impunity - and they don't know what to do about it.

#WorstFalseFlagEver - let's get it trending!

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CuttingEdge EuroPox Fri, 04/20/2018 - 06:10 Permalink

You had me at the baby-wipes in your first piece, Rob.

 

Sad to say, coming from a limey, but the UK is now, courtesy of Theresa May and Boris Johnson, a complete fucking joke. In that country's defence, I will say it only makes their own as much of a joke as their US counterparts' foreign policy, the biggest laugh being the very energetic Syrian White Helmet false flag factory (set up by Acedemi) they are using to keep the neo con dream alive with. And making Trump look as a big a cunt as May. Of either the dumb or neocon variety.

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Famunda Cheeze HopefulCynical Fri, 04/20/2018 - 08:25 Permalink

The author needs go a different direction with his investigation.  Research into Skripal and Anna Chapman connection and Clinton. Both were among 14 agents exchanged in one of the most significant spy swaps between the US and Russia in post-Cold War history.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/who-is-anna-chapman-and-what-is-her-…

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/glamorous-russian-spy-anna-chapma…

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JSBach1 EuroPox Fri, 04/20/2018 - 11:26 Permalink

Did you have a chance to read the utter rubbish the Guardian and BBC put up blaming "Russian Trolls" as conspiracy theorists blaming UK for the Skripal "poisonings"?

Russia used trolls and bots to unleash disinformation on to social media in the wake of the Salisbury poisoning, according to fresh Whitehall analysis. Government sources said experts had uncovered an increase of up to 4,000% in the spread of propaganda from Russia-based accounts since the attack,– many of which were identifiable as automated bots.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/19/russia-fake-news-salisbur…

 

Despite the uncertainty about what happened in Douma, a cluster of influential social media activists is certain that it knows what occurred on 7 April.

They've seized on a theory being floated by Russian officials and state-owned media outlets that the attacks were "staged" or were a "false flag" operation, carried out by jihadist groups or spies in order to put the blame on the Assad government and provide a justification for Western intervention.

The group includes activists and people who call themselves "independent journalists", and several have Twitter followings reaching into the tens or hundreds of thousands.

...

According to their narrative, international media organisations across the political spectrum, along with human rights organisations, are somehow covertly aligned with Western governments, Saudi Arabia, the Islamic State group and al-Qaeda and taking part in a secretive plot to take over Syria.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/blogs-trending-43745629?__twitter_impres…

 

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/987334242186289152

https://twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/987338673774411777

https://twitter.com/Ian56789/status/987243238926045184

https://twitter.com/sahouraxo/status/986966653266223111

https://twitter.com/NinaByzantina/status/987212002442395648

https://twitter.com/VanessaBeeley/status/987308428900126722

https://twitter.com/CraigMurrayOrg/status/986164289177378816

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Mr. Ed BennyBoy Fri, 04/20/2018 - 08:28 Permalink

Yes!  In addition to all the physical chemistry effects and decomposition issues that cannot be explained away (the evidence they report should be scientifically impossible to collect - if you believe their story!), there is the delay in symptoms: Novichok acts as you say in 30 secs to 2 mins, while BZ begins to act after several hours - which is consistent with the reported facts.

Also, BZ causes delayed hallucinations and maniacal behavior just like that shown by Sergei.

All things taken together, there can be no doubt that this "poisoning" was staged by someone.  Such corruption... what is the purpose?

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Katos JohninMK Fri, 04/20/2018 - 10:25 Permalink

The author is obviously stupid?? Journalists dont investigate stories. They call their bosses and ask for the desired narrative, then write stories pushing and propagating said narrative! Its utterly ridiculous to think that there exists today any journalist that actually investigates, then gets the truth in print!

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GreatUncle Fireman Fri, 04/20/2018 - 06:39 Permalink

Easy to answer ... to justify the bombing of Syria and that was only possible if you could generate a criminal concept of Russia.

UK population must demand the release of the OPCW report in full because the government has been bombing with your alleged say so.

The reports classified bollocks concept ... seeing as it does not name individuals etc. the report has no reason to be classified at all.

So what does the OCPW report say? I think all us Brits have a right to know.

 

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Iconoclast Fri, 04/20/2018 - 05:09 Permalink

There are no answers, other than the obvious conclusions that the incident was a complete work of fiction-false flag, or that MI6 were  trying to eliminate one of their own.

GreatUncle Iconoclast Fri, 04/20/2018 - 06:52 Permalink

If Skripal was the one carrying the chemical agents into Syria and the Russians stumbled upon it government mercs would need to silence him.

That is why Skripal and his daughter should be brought into public view yet the UK government persists on them being hidden away. My take is the false flag fucked up but they would still need to be killed to silence the trail.

Explains why the Russians may have been watching him though ... he never actually retired.

 

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BritBob Fri, 04/20/2018 - 05:10 Permalink

“There is no doubt that we have found nerve agent, that nerve agent has been identified to have been manufactured, we believe in Russia, and we believe that the nerve agent, the Novichok type of nerve agent is only capable of being produced by a nation state,” Security Minister Ben Wallace said on Thursday in a BBC radio interview. “We can say that all roads lead to Russia, that we are beyond reasonable doubt that the Russian state is behind this.”

Russian agents already have a licence to kill former spies granted by Putin.

Did Putin's Cold War ever end?

Presidents (Macri (Argentina) & Putin signed a 30-point collaboration agreement in different areas, including the need to resume the negotiations with the United Kingdom for the Malvinas Islands. (La Voz, 23 Jan 2018).

The islanders have chosen to remain 'freely associated with the UK' their legal right.

Falklands – UN Resolutions & 2013 Referendum '' (1 pg)

https://www.academia.edu/35921248/Falklands_UN_Resolutions_and_2013_Referendum

PrivetHedge BritBob Fri, 04/20/2018 - 05:27 Permalink

Your quote from the BBC is rubbished by the facts and the article itself - just repeating it highlights the lies, nothing more.

We need the UK to give the Falkland islands back to Argentina, period. But now that you bring the legal rights of people to be associated with countries - does that also go for the Crimea and Palestine?

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Guderian Fri, 04/20/2018 - 05:29 Permalink

The MSM has long since ceased to ask any questions.

They have become nothing but mouthpieces for the Deep State and Big Money.

Expect nothing. 

Get ready.

Slack Jack David2923 Fri, 04/20/2018 - 08:45 Permalink

David2923: "Winston Churchill fun fact I learned.... July 6th 1944, Churchill signs the order the dropping of poison gas on German towns and cities"

The Nazis had tens of thousands of tons of weaponized nerve gas that they had produced (at Dyhernfurth an der Oder). Over 500,000 artillery shells and about 100,000 bombs (filled with nerve gas) were found in their storage areas (mainly at Krappitz = Krapowice) at the end of the war.

Good ole Hitler wouldn't have been able to prevent their use if the nut Churchill had got his way.

If you wish to see how real wars are conducted, read:

Proof that Adolf Hitler was a double agent.

http://www.preearth.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=1174

It seems pretty weird when you first read it, but its clearly true.

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DingleBarryObummer David2923 Fri, 04/20/2018 - 06:02 Permalink

My German teacher in HS was a child in Germany during WWII.  One time, someone yelled "SIEG HEIL!" at him in the cafeteria and ran away, and later that day in class he was very upset.

He divulged that the allies airdropped poison and explosives disguised as toys to specifically target children.  Could have been made up, but I don't think he had a lot of reason to make it up.

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