Q-tards Being Played With Cheesy Tom Clancyesque Plotline

In competitive jiujitsu, the goal is to disable your opponent through submission, or by choking them out.  Each fighter uses various grappling techniques in an attempt to get their opponent's body into a position where they can apply a submission hold.  For an experienced fighter, it might take several minutes for him to position his and his opponent's body right where he needs them to be in order to spring a surprise submission or choke hold that his opponent won't see coming.  Sometimes you just don't see what your opponent is doing, and all of a sudden you're in an unbreakable choke hold, and 6 seconds later you're out.

Here's Q's latest "drop":

Apr 30 2018 10:51:06 (EST) Q !xowAT4Z3VQ ID: e7b971 1248119
Define the terms of the Iran nuclear deal.
Does the agreement define & confine cease & desist ‘PRO’ to the republic of Iran?
What if Iran created a classified ‘satellite’ Nuclear facility in Northern Syria?
What if the program never ceased?
What other bad actors are possibly involved?
Did the U.S. know?
Where did the cash payments go?
How many planes delivered?
Did all planes land in same location?
Where did the U1 material end up?
Is this material traceable?
Define cover.
What if U1 material ended up in Syria?
What would be the primary purpose?
In the movie, where did the material come from?
What country?
What would happen if Russia or another foreign state supplied Uranium to Iran/Syria?
What does U1 provide?
Define cover.
Why did we strike Syria?
Why did we really strike Syria?
Define cover.
Patriots in control.

And thus, the reveal of the purpose for the long and drawn out Q psyop: getting all the patriots and true believers on board for war with Russia and Iran; getting their opponent--the intelligent thinking American who is sick of it all and ready to walk off the reservation--setup for the choke.

I hope I'm wrong, but I doubt it.  I've been around long enough now to have seen different variations of this dog & pony show already.  The story ends the same: your hopes, dreams and desires get bent over a barrel and sodomized.

All hope abandon ye who enter here.




Shemp 4 Victory Mon, 04/30/2018 - 21:16 Permalink


And thus, the reveal of the purpose for the long and drawn out Q psyop: getting all the patriots and true believers on board for war with Russia and Iran; getting their opponent--the intelligent thinking American who is sick of it all and ready to walk off the reservation--setup for the choke.

That's what it looks like to me. If the whole thing wasn't a setup, it would have asked

What if the program never existed?

because the only "documentation" of Iran's atom bomb program was an Israeli forgery given to lackeys in the MEK* who were instructed to hand it over to the US and say they got it from "insiders" in Iran.

Instead, the Qooks follow the same "Iran is six months away from an atom bomb" story that Bubo Netanyahoo has been peddling since the mid 1990s.




*The MEK (Mujahedin-e Khalq) is an insane Marxist cult of terrorist crackpots which seeks to overthrow the current government of Iran and replace it with its own people.


Iranians from all walks of life regard this group as traitors due to their siding with Saddam Hussein during the Iran-Iraq War.


The MEK has been making bogus claims about Iran's nuclear program (with information provided by Israel) for years.


Assassinations of Iranian nuclear scientists were carried out by MEK members who had been trained by the Mossad.


Because they oppose the Iranian government, the US considers them "good terrorists". Even though they were included in the US list of foreign terrorist organizations, the US Joint Special Operations Command provided MEK operatives with terrorism training at a secret site in Nevada between 2005 and 2009.


After an extensive long-term lobbying campaign during which it paid high-profile American politicians (mostly neocons from both the Democrats and Republicans) $50,000 per appearance to make pro-MEK speeches, the group was removed from the official US list of foreign terrorist organizations by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in 2012.


MEK members have participated in the current invasion of Syria and the group has run terrorist training camps just outside of the Syrian borders in both Turkey and Jordan.

BarkingCat JRobby Tue, 05/01/2018 - 10:04 Permalink

I followed Q for about 2 or 3 weeks and then got over it.

I arrived at the conclusion that while it was interesting,  it was nonetheless complete bullshit. 

Not in a sense that there is no truth in the posts. Sure, there are bread crumbs but they don't lead to anywhere worthy of a journey. 


By the way, Corsi is a clown. 

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a Smudge by an… Ted19731950 Tue, 05/01/2018 - 11:04 Permalink

Haven't read a lick of it. Only heard about it the other day. But this thing does follow an old pattern: the White Knight. The Angel Insider that's supposed to ride in and save the day and lead us all to a new, free tomorrow.

The purported quotes on Q material above reinforce this point ad nausea.

The great lesson here? Many people in this nation want desperately to be saved. They keep waiting for the White Knight to make it all better for them. They want it to be easy. No personal cost if you please.

Real knights spend time in jail, on the run or in hiding. The cost is usually high. It's a miracle the Bundys walk this land of the living today.

Remember LaVoy.


Salutations, Chum!

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swmnguy Truther Tue, 05/01/2018 - 11:29 Permalink

You don't have to think it through to that level. 

In real life, there are not many people such as who Q claims to be.  Such people know who each other are, and they can certainly find each other.  If one of them were posting to Reddit, the others know. 

Therefore, it's either bullshit and considered harmless, or it's approved for release. 

The one thing it's not is what it claims to be.

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Couchtycoon swmnguy Tue, 05/01/2018 - 12:38 Permalink

Can't some unknown person or group write questions in the backwaters of the internet in peace. I don't see anything wrong with the questions, the answers to those questions would be interesting and enlightening. The real problem is the sheer amount of people who act like they can interpret this stuff yet have no means or knowledge to answer the questions. To many people look at this like it's some kind of crystal ball.

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Baron von Bud nightshiftsucks Tue, 05/01/2018 - 12:49 Permalink

Q is a WH operative. Otherwise, the WH would have disavowed him long ago. What came of Trump's national security directive? All the names on the list were Middle Eastern and a few from South America. Had nothing to do with pedos. Q was pushing Bolton as a good guy. There's nothing good about that nutter neocon or Pompeo. Q is a limited hangout intended to keep Trump's base engaged with a belief that they're privy to some grand plan of saving America. Maybe Trump will de-nutterize the MIC but pushing their budget up to $1T isn't reassuring.

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Conscious Reviver MK ULTRA Alpha Wed, 05/02/2018 - 01:06 Permalink

Relax MK. He got here early, like HH.

"History Member for 8 years 9 months"

He had a lot of compelling stories when he first showed up. Maybe you could have gotten the same deal if you too were an early supporter of the site. 

You sound jealous and whiney which is kind of beneath you. Find the next, emerging Zero Hedge and post early and often or start your own blog. There's no sense in attacking comrades in arms over kindergarten like nonsense. "Johnny got a cookie and I didn't. Wha wha wha."

Maybe Chumba is not responding as much as you would like because he has a life and is busy. I remember that for a while he was busy trying to stay out of jail. 

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MK ULTRA Alpha nightshiftsucks Tue, 05/01/2018 - 11:08 Permalink

Everyone has a right to their opinion and we do not need or want a board poster over us dictating what we are to believe.

This is wrong and we should say it, for the freedom of this board.

The freedom of this board was raw pure freedom and this is what everyone here liked and it flourished.

We do not need a nutcase hater freak in our face with the crap he spews.

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MK ULTRA Alpha nightshiftsucks Tue, 05/01/2018 - 11:20 Permalink

Opinion? I meant everyone is allowed an opinion on the board, but when a board poster is elevated to allow his opinion to have more meaning than others opinion then this playing favorites is wrong.

The Q is an opinion, and this jack ass wants us to believe his opinion is worth more. It is up to the reader to determine that, not ZH and the above is a ZH sanctioned opinion.

Even you are allowed an opinion, again, it is up to the reader to determine your meaning, the value of your opinion. This is just as bad as the fake news, the article is demeaning a whole class of posters.

I don't know of anyone who believed in the Q poster. If he were an insider releasing classified data, then he would have been located and shut down. It was an experienced person who was giving an opinion that the drive by cut down poster took aim at, that's it. Same MO, now legitimized by ZH.


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chumbawamba MK ULTRA Alpha Tue, 05/01/2018 - 13:08 Permalink

First of all, this is not a BBS, it's a blog.  Calling it a "board" is so gauche 1980s.

The reason I'm able to post?  It's called contributor status.  I've had it longer than you've been around several times over.

You make a big stink about me being able to express my opinion over all others, yet here you are, expressing your opinion (over all others) that my opinion is shit.  Do you not recognize the irony, you fucking mental giant?

How is my opinion being "elevated"?  You gave my words legitimacy when you decided to read them.  Whose fault is it that your panties got all wadded up?  You didn't have to click on the article.  You don't have to click on any of the contributor articles.  You don't have to click on any articles on Zero Hedge.  You don't have to come to Zero Hedge.  Go find an online utopia where snowflakes like you won't be rendered apoplectic by someone daring to point out a stupid troll when he sees one.

I will repeat my offer: someone write an article proving Q is legitimate and I will post it.


I am Chumbawamba.

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Big Creek Rising chumbawamba Tue, 05/01/2018 - 18:50 Permalink

“The reason I'm able to post?  It's called contributor status.”

Contributor status? What’s that, an award for articulating cogent thoughts using Standard English (with proper grammar and punctuation, of course)?

How do I get that? Do Contributors wear real clothes or just jammies like this most vacuous cohort of commenters that seems to lately monopolize most discussions with insipid drivel?

Do you live in a real house like a grownup or are you in a basement, too?

Is there a Mrs. Chumbawamba or are you saving up your pizza delivery tips to buy a transsexual robot like Deep Snorkelor and his friends?

Not trying to get too personal, just you might present a more thorough example to which some of these intellectual pygamies might aspire.

Noting that your challenge remains unanswered, it would appear rational discourse is beyond those with such strong emotions.

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Conscious Reviver Big Creek Rising Wed, 05/02/2018 - 01:16 Permalink

"you might present a more thorough example to which some of these intellectual pygamies might aspire."

He used to do that as in discuss his life a lot, but ZH scrubbed all the old stuff for some unfortunate reason.  

Maybe he doesn't want to be repetitious.

Lot's of weak needy egos on display. HH gets the same kind of stick from time to time. 

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AurorusBorealus chumbawamba Tue, 05/01/2018 - 11:05 Permalink

Here is my (unsolicited) opinion (and this is only an opinion) on the Q phenomenon.  I believe that Q is in a high position in the NSA: deputy director level.  The NSA is not entirely part of the deep-state apparatus.  It is not under CIA authority (though there are certainly CIA assets inside the NSA).   It is a military agency and in the military chain-of-command, and the CIA must ask the NSA for intelligence. 

I think that after 9/11, with the broad new surveillance capabilities of the NSA, the NSA became aware of the extent of corruption of the CIA-run deep-state apparatus.  I think senior military commanders, who are "patriots" in some sense of the word, became alarmed at many of the CIA activities, including their gun-running and drug-dealing, their use of military assets as expendable pawns, and their staging of the 9/11 event to start an ill-advised war in Iraq, which the U.S. military now views (rightly) as a disaster and epic strategic error (having allowed for the expansion of Iranian influence into Mesopotamia and the Levant).  The military and the joint chiefs grew weary of being the CIA's pawns in their ill-considered global adventures.

The NSA and the military are now trying to gain control of the deep-state from the CIA.  Trump became the presidential candidate whom they decided to support in order to gain control of the executive branch of government and use executive powers to take control of the deep-state from the CIA.  Notice who were the first liaisons from the government to the Trump campaign: Flynn and Rogers, both NSA men (and both targets of the CIA-backed Mueller investigation). This is why I have referred to the Trump administration as the "junta."

The NSA and U.S. military do not have a fundamentally different world-view than that of the CIA in the present.  They see the global chessboard in the same way.  They also want war with Iran in order to support their Israeli and Saudi allies, maintain the petrodollar, and pump Arabian gas to Europe.  This internecine war between the CIA and the military for control of the U.S. government is not about what global strategy to implement.  They are in agreement on this point: except that the military prefers a more cautious approach to Russia.  Instead, it is about methods and power: nothing more.

This is why Trump has promoted Iran war-hawks and generals to all of his senior positions.  Whereas, every president since Kennedy was a CIA puppet, Trump is a military puppet.  The real coup d'etat in the U.S. has been that of Trump junta over the CIA.  Mueller's investigation and the CIA media psyops against Trump are actually a counter coup.

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MK ULTRA Alpha AurorusBorealus Tue, 05/01/2018 - 11:11 Permalink

Most people in the US didn't read Q or know anything about Q. It was for children, young people with television fantasy minds. That's it, but here, this jerk is making it an attack upon all who are called patriots. It's another drive by cut down.

His post are condescending, low life manner, and now we get a ZH sanctioned cut down of an entire class of people. 

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AurorusBorealus MK ULTRA Alpha Tue, 05/01/2018 - 11:43 Permalink

I think that you miss the point of the post.  The intent to me does not seem to be to insult Trump supporters.  The intent seems to be to question the "white hat" vs "black hat" (or white spy vs. black spy) narrative that Q has developed by pitting his "patriots" (i.e. the NSA and military in my opinion) against the CIA.  In this, I am in full agreement.  The junta is preferable to the CIA as the master of the U.S. government in the methods that it chooses.  However, changing the leadership of the totalitarian regime bent on global empire ruled from Washington from a secret police agency to a military dictatorship is not why people voted for Trump.  The vote for Trump was a vote to end the quest for empire, not change the imperial war room from CIA headquarters to the Pentagon.  I think this is his point.

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MK ULTRA Alpha AurorusBorealus Tue, 05/01/2018 - 12:12 Permalink

Admitted hater of Americans, Argentina professor, who sees the CIA behind every rock, you missed the point, we do not need or want a low life like this poster demeaning an entire class of people on this board. That's the point, he is a low life hater freak with an agenda and ZH has sanctioned his hate rant.

Go look at his comments to those who don't agree with his child, young person fantasy television mind with a poster named Q. No one reads Q, this is a small select group of posters. It has nothing to do with Trump vs not Trump. That's in your mind and just like the CIA is behind every rock.

You're an anti-American and try to tell us about America and you have no knowledge other than what you read. Posting hate for America all the way from Argentina.

A good one was when you posted America was this low filth driven nation with homosexuals. I stated you need to look at your own country. You came back with Argentina was a perfect place, no homosexuals in the town square. Well being a history professor you missed your country's new law, anyone who is a foreigner who wants a same sex marriage come to Argentina, as soon as you marry, you can be a citizen of Argentina. They're flooding in to your country.

Argentina is now the capital of same sex marriage and they are flowing in. The other point was Argentina wasn't hostile toward Americans and they didn't take estates of Americans, it happened and it is all over expats blogs, Argentina is hostile toward Americans. It could be because Argentinians like you believe the CIA is behind every rock.

Then it was we needed to not deport illegal immigrates, that we need the people of Latin America, no we need people to follow the laws. We have too many criminals within the ranks of the illegals. We are being over run, and unlike the communist view of our nation, we do not belong to the world. We have a right to control our borders.




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AurorusBorealus MK ULTRA Alpha Tue, 05/01/2018 - 12:46 Permalink

So says the "former" CIA agent.  Why so much hostility to Q and this post?  Just curious, Mr. CIA.

As to the rest of your disjointed drivel. I respond.

1) Buenos Aires is not Argentina.  Outside Buenos Aires, no one is fond of homosexual conduct.

2) I do not hate Americans.  I do not hate anyone.  It is the Americans who hate everyone else, and their imperial conduct, aspirations, and policies are merely the elite expression of a general arrogance that permeates the whole of the culture down to the lowest classes; call it "American exceptionalism."  It is learned characteristic and a conditioned mode of thinking.  I merely point to the existence of this cultural characteristic.

3)  As you are no doubt aware, I have been in the U.S. many years, and know much more about the U.S. than what I read in English-language independent media.

4)  It is ironic that a "former" CIA agent accuses me of "seeing the CIA" under every rock.  This from the former agent of an agency that sees the "Russians" under every rock and who himself sees the Jews under every rock.  Turn up all the rocks of regime change, election meddling, and corruption in Latin America.  You will find few Jews, no Russians, and a host of CIA agents such as yourself.

 I see the CIA under every rock, because the CIA is under every rock.  Have you not been reading Zerohedge lately about the "deep-state," the U.S. "shadow government," the 80+ regime change efforts of the CIA, the CIA's involvement with the Kennedy assassination, the CIA's involvement in the pan-American drug trade (and probably the Afghan poppy trade), the realization on the part of nearly everyone in independent media that the CIA, MI6, Mossad, and Saudi intelligence control the entire mainstream news media.  Have you missed all of these stories?  It is not I who sees the CIA under every rock.  It is everyone, except you, apparently.

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Conscious Reviver AurorusBorealus Thu, 05/03/2018 - 01:19 Permalink

#2 Arrogance. Yes and no. In some cases you may perceive arrogance when you register swagger. I looked up swagger "to walk with an air of overbearing self-confidence" are we criminalizing self-confidence? Can't help it really. 

Yes there's plenty of arrogance unfortunately, the Leona Helmsley kind and the John McCain /Bolton kind, but most people aren't like that. 


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Conscious Reviver MK ULTRA Alpha Wed, 05/02/2018 - 01:40 Permalink

MK Ultra, I think I usually like what you write, so I'm trying to help you out here. 

"His post are condescending, low life manner, and now we get a ZH sanctioned cut down of an entire class of people."

Fwiw, I don't see it that way at all. Others have posted asking ZH to take up the "Q anon phenomenon". So here's Chumba taking up the gauntlet. I agree with his assessment. It's nothing but a deep state, basicly zionist psy-op. The only people following and cheering on this nonsense are people who see themselves as patriots. I know one in particular who comes by all the time to fill me in on the latest and I just have to yawn. "This Sunday night, all the sealed indictments. Prison cells being prepared. Top pedos being rounded up." And of course nothing happens because Trump was selected by and put in place by ... the ZioCon Deep State. It's mainly a distraction and also an attempt to nudge people onto a narrative that the ZCDS finds acceptable, ie. Let's go to war with Russia and Iran. Chumba is saying that as a result of all the above, patriotic people who follow Q anon are going to be disappointed. And I agree. They will be dissapointed. Like my friend bringing me all the updates. What's offensive to patriots about that? I'm a patriot. I'm not offended at all by what Chumba is saying. But then I don't follow the psy op and hang on every word. I share all of this with my Q anon following  friend, but he's not the least bit interested. The bottom line is people ought to wake up. What's with the thin skin reaction? 

I'm not Chumbawamba. ;) 

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STP chumbawamba Tue, 05/01/2018 - 11:27 Permalink

Look back at the Q posts in December 2017.  Q was already discussing NK or North Korea back then, long before it hit the MSM this Spring.  Also, take a long look at the +++ ++ +.   Note that Trump signed Kanye West's MAGA hat with a 2++.  He's also ended his tweets with the verbal 'plus plus'.  There have been numerous coincidental timings with Q's posts, followed by DJT's tweets minutes later.  There's also been photgraphic evidence of photo's taken of foreign cities where AF1 is landing and the time stamps match the flight plan.

Finally, give this some thought.  If Q was a LARP, or Live Action Role Player on 4chan or 8chan, you would think that someone pretending to be the President of someone close to him, would look for kudos, thanks, aggrandizement or heaps of praise to feed his ego, but that is not the case.   Q has consistently over many months, not taken credit or refused to have his ego stroked.   WWG1WGA.  "Where We Go One, We Go All."

He sure points out some stuff normally kept quiet by the MSM, like Adam Schiff and the Standard Hotel, along with the associated mysterious helicopter crash of their senior staff.  And that's just one of many things, Q has pointed out, that you wouldn't have known otherwise.  If anything, even is Q is not real, he sure keeps those hidden, but potent issues in the spotlight.

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therealestg9 nightshiftsucks Tue, 05/01/2018 - 12:44 Permalink

Oh he's definitely real. He's a deep state intelligence operative whose mission is to portray the illusion that the "White Knights" are in charge in this administration, when in reality it's the same old MIC, just with a different face this time. 

Of course he has inside knowledge of certain events that any Washington insider would know about (such as the Gowdy resignation etc.) But that's not enough to make us trust him. His basic premise is:

Here are some really vague explanations and a lot of unanswered questions that I never explain myself. Here are some random intel droppings that make me seem more believable. Just take my word for it, the good guys are in charge! *wink*.

Yeah, I'm not buying it.

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philipat Shemp 4 Victory Tue, 05/01/2018 - 09:41 Permalink

Perhaps "Q" is the modern day Nostradamus and folks will be arguing about "the meaning" centuries from now?

Perhaps not. So far as I know, Assange still remains holed up in the Ecuadorian Embassy in London without sunlight or medical care and now without even internet access, which amounts to torture. If "Q" was a genuine insider, then his "revelation" that Assange was safely sipping champagne and negotiating terms to enter The US and testify against the DNC with lawyers in Switzerland would surely have been correct?

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gdpetti philipat Tue, 05/01/2018 - 09:51 Permalink

Obvious intel op, but that doesn't  mean it won't tell the truth when convenient for them to do so... as it suits their interests in whatever way they deem fit. Trumpy is an obvious tool, same with Carter, both 'outsiders', though Trumpy has been around the clubhouse without ever really being a member... and now he's the perfect foil for the takedown of the OWO. He's not too much different from BOris the Clown across the Pond, only I think Trumpy isn't that insipidly ignorant, but both are perfect symbols of the endgame scenario.

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TheReplacement gdpetti Tue, 05/01/2018 - 10:48 Permalink

It was from a Q post that I was able to find that the NXIVM cult was tied to Bronfman to Rothschild to Branson to the sons of former Presidente of Mexico Fox, to Roger Stone.


I think that Q talking about Iran is inline with what was said about NK.  Look at how NK is going so far.  The suggestion is that NK was controlled opposition but the good guys were able to remove the mechanism of control so now Kim is making his own decisions.  Would anyone be surprised to find that Iran is controlled opposition?

The past 10 or so years have been quite a journey of discovery here.  Who would be surprised at anything that happens from here on out.

At least Q is entertaining.

Flogging Syria with missiles that kill nobody is both disheartening and surprisingly hopeful.  It seems like kabuki to shut up the war party.

Basically, what it all comes down to, if you really, really want to understand what is going on, is:  Who the fuck knows?

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sleigher Shemp 4 Victory Tue, 05/01/2018 - 10:59 Permalink

What the Q board people thought this was leading to was that IF Hillary would have won, they were setting up for a SUM OF ALL FEARS scenario where she and the Democrats would have started a nuclear war with Russia after a nuclear bomb went off in the US.  


Is this scenario true?  No idea, but it is what I read as their outcome to the drops.  Not just the latest either but others leading up to this point.



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chumbawamba sleigher Tue, 05/01/2018 - 13:41 Permalink

Yeah, but that's what the "Q board" people thought, i.e. it is their interpretation of the Q-uattrains (fans of Nostradamus will appreciate that one :)

And how would Russia get suckered into a nuclear war through a deal engineered by Hillary & Co anyway?

As many have pointed out, these drops are too vague to be relied upon for anything, even if they do happen to match up with certain events.  I'm sure if I put my time to it I could make a case that it's actually a Hillary operative machinating some scheme.



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BandGap Shemp 4 Victory Tue, 05/01/2018 - 12:08 Permalink

What is a fact, and I hope people recall this, is that the Israeli air force took out a nuclear "reactor site" in northern Syria a couple of years ago. This is precisely where all this Q shit is supposedly set to go down.

Not sure what to believe anymore, but I will keep watching.

A question - what is the US/UK deep state's interaction with Russia and China? Seems to me this is more than a 1:1 battle, with a lot of major and minor antagonists/protagonists.


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