Saudi Arabia Will Build Christian Churches After Striking Deal With Vatican

First he let women drive. Then he loosened rules surrounding public interactions between men and women. Now, in his latest act of progressive benevolence (in a country that still chops people's heads off for committing adultery), Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman will allow the Vatican to build Christian churches in Saudi Arabia.

The historic deal was signed by the Secretary General of the Muslim World League Sheikh Mohammed bin Abdel Karim Al-Issa and the President of the Pontifical Council for Inter-religious Dialogue in the Vatican, Cardinal Jean-Louis Tauran following a meeting last month, according to Breitbart.

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The decision is part of KSA's shift to an ever more open stance as it seeks to recruit technology firms and other industries to help diversify its economy away from oil.

During a visit to Riyadh in April, Cardinal Tauran was received at the royal palace by King Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud, who in addition to nominally running the country is also the custodian of the Two Holy Mosques, as well as his son MbS. Tauran and his delegation also visited the Center for the Fight against Extremist Thought, and met with the Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia, Abdul-Aziz ibn Abdullah Al ash-Sheikh.

In his address to Saudi officials, Tauran spoke about the difficulties faced by the "hundreds of thousands of Christians in the Saudi Kingdom" despite the fact that the country is the only state in the Arab world without even a single church.

Tauran insisted that Pope Francis follows their plight "with close attention." The cardinal also reaffirmed the Vatican's view on the equal treatment of all citizens regardless of their religion, including those who are atheist or agnostic.

Another benefit of the Cardinal's visit was an agreement to renounce violence, extremism, terrorism and achieve security and stability in the world.

The accord calls for the formation of a committee with two representatives each from Christianity and Islam. The committee will meet every two years, alternating between Rome and a city chosen by the Islamic World League.

Since its founding, Saudi Arabia has embraced a fundamentalist strain of Islam known as Wahhabism, which bans all forms of non-Muslim religious activities.

But as MbS moves to liberalize the country at a staggering rate to help improve the chances of achieving his Saudi Vision 2030 goals, one can't help but wonder: What's next? Letting Christians into Mecca?

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Slack Jack Manthong Mon, 05/07/2018 - 00:21 Permalink

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There are no ancient Jewish cities in Israel,...
but there are lots of ancient Greek cities.

What is weird is this; that 2000 years ago, it seems that there were no people even resembling Jews, in Israel.

It turns out that there is not a single ancient Jewish city in what is now called Israel. There is not a single ancient city where Hebrew characters are used on the statues and buildings. There is not a single ancient city where the buildings are in the ancient Jewish architectural style. In fact, there is not even a category of "ancient Jewish architectural style".

Of course, the Hebrew characters that are desired, are those of the Dead Sea scrolls (supposedly from 2000 years ago), which are essentially the modern Hebrew characters without points.

If you check out all the ancient cities in Israel from 2000 years ago, they are all Greek, and their ruins are still there for you to visit. Their inscriptions are in the Greek script and the buildings are in the ancient Greek architectural styles.

Here is a list of some of the known ancient Greek cities in (and near) Israel; Ecdippa, Seleucia, Ptolemais, Taricheia Arbela, Asochis, Sepphoris, Hippos, Dion, Sycaminum, Bucolon Polis, Itabyrium, Gadara, Abila, Dora, Comus, Gephrus, Crocodilion Polis, Caesarea, Straton's Tower, Narbata, Scythopolis, Pella, Samaria, Amathus, Ragaba, Gerasa, Apollonia, Sicima, Pegae, Joppa, Arimathea, Jamnia, Port of Jamnia, Lydda, Modiin, Aphaerema, Philadelphia, Birtha, Gazara, Beth Horon, Dok, Jericho, Samaga, Esbus, Medaba, Ladder of Tyre, Azotus, Port of Azotus, Accaron, Jerusalem, Ascalon, Anthedon, Gaza, Marissa, Beth Zur, Hebron, Adora, Engeddi.

The ancient Jewish cities in Israel are,....... well there aren't any. Not even one.

Here's an interesting example of a first century BC Greek inscription (i.e., in Greek letters) from Jerusalem's Temple Mount forbidding the entry of strangers to the Temple precinct.

http://www.preearth.net/images/no-foreigner-shall-enter.jpg

The pictured stone was found in 1935. It was actually the second such warning-stone to be found, the first being discovered by Charles Simon Clermont-Ganneau in 1871. This stone was deemed so dangerous to the "Jews inhabited Israel 2000 years ago" theory, that it completely disappeared for 13 years before resurfacing in Istanbul, where, it was correctly calculated, it would not attract much attention.

From: https://www.timesofisrael.com/ancient-temple-mount-warning-stone-is-clo…

The first Jerusalem Temple Mount warning-stone, now found in the Archaeology Museum, Istanbul, is pictured below:

http://preearth.net/images/jerusalem-temple-warning-at-istanbul.jpg

It says (in Greek): "No stranger is to enter within the balustrade round the temple and enclosure. Whoever is caught will be responsible to himself for his death, which will ensue."

The oldest synagogue in Israel (is a Greek synagogue).

The word synagogue = ΣΥΝΑΓΩΓΗ is a Greek word for a gathering of people, assembly, or meeting place.

It is exceedingly strange that Jews should have chosen a Greek word to name their churches.

Here is a photo of the dedication stone of the oldest (once existing) synagogue in Israel.

http://www.preearth.net/images/theodotus-inscription.jpg

Note that the inscription is in Greek letters.

The stone is known as the Theodotus Inscription. The building that the stone was once part of, has not survived. The stone was discovered by Raimond Weill in 1913 at Mount Ophel in Jerusalem. It was found dumped in a cistern. The style of the Greek characters dates it to the first century B.C.

It states: "Theodotus, son of Vettenus, priest and archisynagogue, son of an archisynagogue, grandson of an archisynagogue, built the synagogue for the reading of the Law and the teaching of the commandments, and guest-house and the rooms and the water supplies for the lodging of strangers in need, which his fathers founded and the Elders and Simonides."

Note that Theodotus has a Greek name.

Note that his father Vettanos has a Greek name.

The word archisynagogos means "leader of the synagogue". So, it seems that three generations of Greeks headed the oldest (known) synagogue in Israel.

I wonder why the early "Jews" hated Hebrew and loved Greek.

Slack Jack's CHALLENGE:

Name ONE ancient city (that existed in what is now called Israel) where the building inscriptions are all in Hebrew, and the buildings are constructed in the ancient Hebrew architectural style (whatever that may be).

Then give a summary of "the ancient Hebrew architectural style" (you will have to make this up as it does not yet exist).

Then give links to photos of the ancient building inscriptions which show that they are written in Hebrew.

Then show that the buildings are constructed in the ancient Hebrew architectural style (that you have just invented).

http://www.preearth.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1175

It's been MANY MANY MANY months now and still no one is up to the challenge.

So, no one can provide solid evidence that even ONE ancient city in what is now called Israel, was unequivocally Jewish, 2000 years ago.

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strannick LiteBeeer Mon, 05/07/2018 - 01:04 Permalink

After travelling throughout the middle east making muslim friends and staying in their homes , I am extremely confident saying that muslims are more intelligent more charitable and better people than ignorant venial "once saved always saved" American fundamentalists who seem to think the Left Behind novels are cannonical books of the Bible.

American Fundamentalists' deranged theological Israel worship shrugs its shoulders at Americas millions of middle east dead; the destroyed nations; at the slaughtered persecuted Middle eastern Christians from millenia old Churches (versus the aw shucks bible study brigade in the community center next to Walmart) and shrugs its shoulders at the specter of nuclear war..cause..well you know..itll be the rapture.

American Fundamentalist Theology greenlights 100 times more murder in the world than Islam and its too dumb and indifferent to see it.

They hate you because youre murderers, not for your freedoms.

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LiteBeeer strannick Mon, 05/07/2018 - 01:21 Permalink

Have you read the 10 commandments?

- Thou shalt not kill.

Have you read the commandments of Jesus?

- Love one another. Love your neighbor as yourself. Love your enemy.

Have you read the quran:

-KILL and get KILLED for allah.

-KILL Jews and Christians.

-Do not take Jews and Christians as friends. Who so does, is surely one of them.

-Jews and Christians are lowest of creatures (lower than dogs and pigs), while mohammedans are best of creation.

-Kill them, crucify them, cut their hands and feet from opposite directions, expel them out of the land, jail them, those who do not convert to islam.

-Slay them until there is nobody left who resists. Do not stop slaughtering even if you have gained the upper hand.

 

Arabs are victims of islam. Christians love all mankind. We all come from Noah. God created all of us and loves all of us. We love one another.

Islam is the enemy, Catholic is the enemy which is anti-Christ and exalts itself as God. These are of Satan.

 

 

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josecanyousee Theosebes Goodfellow Mon, 05/07/2018 - 08:33 Permalink

They also share a rejection of Jesus being the only way to God the Father, i.e. to Salvation. They share a teaching that you have to work your way to your own spiritual Salvation. In short, they share roles as anti-Christs. They may seem to have different approaches, one from without and the other from within the veil of the title "Christian", but they are both serving their real master, and it ain't the one true God.

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Libtard LiteBeeer Mon, 05/07/2018 - 07:53 Permalink

The problem is mainstream christians follow "churchianity" rather than scripture. If you read the entire bible, you will get a very different picture of who and what the Messiah is and what it actually means to follow him. Twistians think they can just read the last 1/3 of the book, completely twist passages and expect to understand it...trust me they DONT! Evangelical, fundamentalist, mainstream..whatever you wanna call them follow a false Constantinian "christianity." A faith that looks nothing like what the Messiah and His deciples taught, practiced and lived. 

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Fireman Twatter Mon, 05/07/2018 - 05:13 Permalink

Now as "a reciprocal gesture of religious tolerance" watch the demented and evil barbarian goat herder spread his terror ashrams and pedo temples across the wasteland of Urupp with the ble$$ing of Jorge Bergoglio, aka pope Frankie, Dirty War "confessor" to the thug Jorge Videla of the Argentinian Junta.

While we're at it, in the spirit of such "ecumenical tolerance and good will" why not sign all the empty churches and cathedrals of dead zone Urupp over to the new and improved goat herd Europeons now terrorizing the dying locals throughout the New Caliphate of Natostan?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2293032/Jorge-Mario-Bergoglio-D…

https://www.counterpunch.org/2013/03/14/bergoglio-and-the-junta/

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techpriest LetThemEatRand Mon, 05/07/2018 - 00:37 Permalink

I am religious, but I agree that we're going to have to wait and see what the full implication is for these actions. Economically, yes, the Saudis have to concern themselves about diversifying out of oil. However, I am sure that there is some larger plan here, even if I don't fully understand what it is.

What I also have to wonder about, is that missionaries report that Christianity is growing fast in "closed countries" like China or the Islamic nations, in spite of it disappearing in traditional Christendom (this is why the overall Christian population is growing, but is rapidly "browning" due to the demographic changes). If the general perception is that it is safe to be a believer there, I wonder how many are going to come out of that particular closet?

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Fireman ___ read.between___ Mon, 05/07/2018 - 04:59 Permalink

The fecal filled feudal crypt of Saudi Barbaria franchises "je$US" with the Plan Condor Dirty War junta pope's ble$$ing in one last ditch attempt to save the blood-spattered IOU petroscrip toilet paper dollah and all those that adore it. 

I'll have mine to go with a side order of infidel fries, the mary magdalene onions, some camel falafels but go easy on the judas mustard and then one large unstrained goat milk latte starschmucks ziopee special. Yuuuuuuuuuumy!

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Déjà view Sun, 05/06/2018 - 23:42 Permalink

Freedom of religion Planned by Iran 1953...

Iran's George Washington: Remembering and Preserving the Legacy of 1953

By Sam Sasan Shoamanesh

To trace the roots of Tehran’s animosity towards Washington and the West in general, one must turn the pages of history not only to the Cold-War dynamics often cited by academics; but to the cause of oil politics as well.

...at the time, the heart of British power – but also the success of its entire economy at large. From the 1920s through the ‘40s, Britain received all of its oil from Iran, and enjoyed a reasonably high standard of living at least in part as a result.

What's more, APOC increasingly engaged in unfair practices and failed to honor even the marginal royalties that it had contracted to pay Iran. In 1948, for example, while APOC reported profits of ₤62 million and paid the British government ₤28 million in income taxes, Iran received a meager ₤1.4 million on its oil resources. The company also regularly reneged on obligations and withheld payments when its demands on the Iranian government were not met.

On behalf of Iran, Teymourtash requested, inter alia, a 25-percent share in the company. If a new concession was to be drawn, he stressed, only a 50-50 split would be acceptable. His “bold” demands placed Teymourtash on a fast collision course with the British government.

Teymourtash died in solitary confinement (1933) under suspicious circumstances having endured regular torture.

Dr. Mossadegh had supported the constitutionalists in the Constitutional Revolution of 1905-1911, restricting the absolute powers of the traditional Iranian monarch, notwithstanding ties with the royal court through his mother. As a politician, he called for political and economic independence; the strengthening of civil society, and competent, corruption-free government. He further advocated for an independent judiciary, free elections, freedom of religion and political associations, women’s and worker’s rights, and projects aimed at supporting the country’s large agricultural sector. For all intents and purposes, he was to the majority of Iranians, the figure of a national hero, the new founding father of Iran in the modern age, who carried on his aging shoulders the promise for democracy and true independence – he was to many the “Iranian George Washington."

After taking office in 1951 as Prime Minister, Mossadegh led the National Front’s campaign to nationalize Iran’s oil industry by sponsoring nationalization bills passed by Parliament in March 1951. The Oil Nationalization Act received Imperial assent on 1 May 1951. This act of “hostility” as perceived through the British lens quickly resulted in mayhem. Oil production came to a standstill as British technicians left the country en masse, damaging refineries on departure. Britain moved aggressively and took a series of steps to penalize Iran. An embargo on the purchase of Iranian oil as well as a ban on exporting goods to Iran were soon put in place, as were measures to freeze Iranian sterling assets. Britain mobilized its navy and paratroopers as a show of military might and Iran was placed under increased pressure to abandon its nationalization plans 

1.3. Showcase Before the World: Anglo-Iranian Oil Company (United Kingdom v. Iran)

In Autumn 1951 with the case before the ICJ being litigated, the British government attempted to increase the mounting international pressure on Iran by concurrently bringing the case before the Security Council

The Iranians found the Security Council referral most peculiar, questioning if a dispute between a private oil company and Iran – what should have been a purely domestic matter

Finally on July 22, 1952 by a 9-5 vote, the ICJ declared that the 1933 agreement could not constitute a treaty between the two states as the UK claimed, but merely a concessionary contract between a private company and the government of Iran to which the UK was not a party. The court declared it lacked jurisdiction – as contended by Iran – to rule on the merits of the case.

As a clearly visible exhausted Prime Minister Mossadegh walked through the halls of the Peace Palace, having just successfully defended Iran’s position, there was little room for celebrations. Perhaps he intuitively knew Iran’s difficulties were far from over. History was to prove such intuitions well founded.

Apart from growing British discontentment with the turn of events, the embargoes and the drastic reduction in oil output had placed extreme pressure on Iran’s economy, thereby triggering domestic divisions. Furthermore, frustrated by Iranian resilience, Westminister Palace became convinced that Mossadegh posed a direct threat to British interests and had to be removed. As with Teymourtash decades earlier, Mossadegh presented as an obstacle to British interests and ‘had’ to be neutralized. A resort to the British Intelligence Service was made, yet an attempted coup was uncovered and bore no fruit. In retaliation, the Iranian government severed diplomatic ties (November 1, 1952). Anxious about what losing Iranian oil would mean for the British navy and economy, Winston Churchill, by then prime minister, lobbied the Americans to commit the deed. 

http://web.mit.edu/mitir/2009/online/mossadegh.htm