Kim Agrees "Denuclearization Is Achievable" After Surprise Second Meeting With China's Xi

With a historic summit between President Donald Trump and North Korean Leader Kim Jong Un just weeks away, Bloomberg has confirmed reports that Chinese President Xi Jinping and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un met in the port city of Dalian over the past two days - the second meeting between top officials of the two Communist allies in less than two months.

Kim traveled to China via an Air Koryo plane that's believed to be Kim's personal jet. Officials confirmed there are no direct air routes between Dalian and the North.

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The first meeting took place in late March, when Kim traveled to China via an armored train in what is widely believed to have been the young dictator's first trip abroad since he succeeded his father, Kim Jong Il, upon his death.

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The second round of talks between the two Communist leaders are taking place following historic talks between South Korean leader Moon Jae-in and Kim at the DMZ late last month, where the leaders of the two Koreas agreed on a framework to end the Korean war.

Following reports of the meeting, President Trump tweeted that he'd be speaking with Xi by phone at 8:30 am ET, and that the primary topic would be trade, where "good things will happen".

According to BBG, Kim reportedly filled Xi in on developments in the Korean peninsula and pushed to strengthen communication and cooperation with China.

In comments reported after the meeting, Kim reiterated that, as long as the regime's security is guaranteed, North Korea "does not need to have nuclear weapons..."

"As long as relevant parties eliminate the hostile policy and security threats against North Korea, North Korea does not need to have nuclear weapons, and denuclearization is achievable," Kim was quoted as saying.

Xi agreed that "positive progress" had been made since the two leaders first met, adding, "I feel happy about it."

His response was reported by China's Xinhua news agency.

"After my first meeting with the chairman [Kim Jong Un], I'm very glad to see positive progress in both bilateral relations and the situation on the Korean Peninsula…. Developing the traditional friendship between China and North Korea is a common treasure of both nations. Improving friendship and cooperation between the two nations is a position both sides hold firmly and is the only correct choice. High-level exchanges between both sides carry important effects that are irreplaceable. Both sides need to maintain regular exchanges, boost strategic communications and mutual trust, and defend our common interests."

As BBG points out, Dalian is home to China's first domestically built aircraft carrier, which is nearly ready to start sea tests. The new carrier, known as the Type 001A, was built by China Shipbuilding Industry Corp. Trump recently revealed that his meeting with Kim has been scheduled for June, and that the location - which he did not reveal - had also been decided. It was later reported that Singapore will host the talks.

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peopledontwanttruth Tue, 05/08/2018 - 11:28 Permalink

Blood is thicker than water    Look at their eyes.  They're all related and I've said it for years.  Family lines will reunite.  

 

He's denuclearization is because of his big family members having nukes and a large army. He's not doing it because of Trump 

macholatte peopledontwanttruth Tue, 05/08/2018 - 11:39 Permalink

 

The Progs see this NorK deal as very good for Trump and very bad for them.  We should be wary of Prog interference to derail the thing.

"The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. ... We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it.  Power is not a means, it is an end.  ... How does one man assert his power over another ... By making him suffer.  Obedience is not enough.  Unless he is suffering, how can you be sure that he is obeying your will and not his own?  Power is inflicting pain and humiliation.  ... A world of fear and treachery and torment, a world of trampling and being trampled upon, a world which will grow not less but more merciless as it refines itself. ... If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face--for ever."
-Orwell

 

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beepbop tmosley Tue, 05/08/2018 - 12:36 Permalink

Obviously, you don't understand.

"When the enemy looks down on you, increase his arrogance." Tsun Zu, The Art of War

That's what N Korea was doing to the US. Now they're showing America that even when they don't have Nuclear Weapons they have China.

So what are you, the US, gonna do about it? Except to quickly run to us with your tail between your legs while I sit comfortably here! Come booboo, come, here's a treat!

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Blankone beepbop Tue, 05/08/2018 - 12:45 Permalink

I have to agree with tmosley on this.
If NK had real backing of China then NK would have real backing of China to HAVE nukes.
If China was ever going to take a stand and defend NK they would have done so for NK's right to sovereignty (and thus have the right to self defense).

Maybe China is just buying time - or maybe China is backing down.
For NK to truly give up on nukes would/will be a disaster.
For China to begin backing down to appease the demands of the US would/will be a disaster.

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beepbop Blankone Tue, 05/08/2018 - 12:47 Permalink

Why do you even think there's a NORTH Korea? Because China went to the rescue and prevented US invading forces from going any further.

China doesn't want the US on its border.

The thing about the Nuclear weapons in N Korea was to distract the US from looking at China while China was building up its economy and huge army. It was a game all along.

Now that China is the #1 economy, and now that the US cannot attack China, the game is over.

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Akzed beepbop Tue, 05/08/2018 - 13:11 Permalink

Because China went to the rescue and prevented US invading forces from going any further.

Nope. It's because the Communists surrounding Truman had him fire Gen. Doug and, and US armed forces were  ordered not to pursue the enemy beyond the Yalu River. Whether or not we should have been there to begin with is another story.

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caconhma CatInTheHat Tue, 05/08/2018 - 14:30 Permalink

"After my first meeting with the chairman [Kim Jong Un], I'm very glad to see positive progress in both bilateral relations and the situation on the Korean Peninsula….  the traditional friendship between China and North Korea is a common treasure of both nations... 

 Both sides need to maintain regular exchanges, boost strategic communications and mutual trust, and defend our common interests."

Translation: N. Korea and China are united against the USA. As for denuclearization of Korean Peninsula, it will be a long road to nowhere.

This all one needs to know. The rest is just propaganda.

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caconhma CatInTheHat Tue, 05/08/2018 - 14:30 Permalink

"After my first meeting with the chairman [Kim Jong Un], I'm very glad to see positive progress in both bilateral relations and the situation on the Korean Peninsula….  the traditional friendship between China and North Korea is a common treasure of both nations... 

 Both sides need to maintain regular exchanges, boost strategic communications and mutual trust, and defend our common interests."

Translation: N. Korea and China are united against the USA. As for denuclearization of Korean Peninsula, it will be a long road to nowhere.

This is all one needs to know. The rest is just propaganda.

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caconhma beepbop Tue, 05/08/2018 - 13:04 Permalink

It is obvious that China and N. Korea are the strategic partners.

Consequently, Orange Orangutan will have to negotiate with both N. Korea and China. As long as China is not at a table, there are no negotiations but just Photo Opportunities.

Now, our Tweeting Orange Orangutan will have to meet both Kim and Xi conditions since I don't think Kim is just a no-voice Xi's vassal. Kim trust to nobody. 

Summing Up: 

  • Orange Orangutan vs. Kim and Xi. The game became much more complicated since there are too many conflicting interests.
  • Finally, Xi is not a Prostitutin and will not allow bombing of its most important ally.

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Lore caconhma Tue, 05/08/2018 - 22:12 Permalink

This 2-day meeting with the leader of "Communist" China takes the wind out of any dishonest attempt by "Capitalist" Trump to take credit. If his puppets persist with that stupid narrative, they'll make him look silly and bring focus to their own obsolescence.

If the purpose is for Trump to 'save face,' he should approach Iran with a similar deal.

He might also re-think the situation with Syria, and Libya, and Iraq, and Donbass, etc.  Get some better advisors, demonstrate a smarter approach, and negotiate in good faith, and world prospects might improve dramatically.

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CatInTheHat Klassenfeind Tue, 05/08/2018 - 13:06 Permalink

I would seriously doubt the US would give up it's bases in SK or Japan.

BINGO. However, with peace on the peninsula there is ZERO reason to be there and US WILL BE ASKED TO LEAVE.

That IS Xi and Kim's 'game' to get the US OUT, but it's more than that for the US. NK keeps US at China's border. NK belongs to China period.

The US 'game' will be to SABOTAGE the whole process to keep boot at China's neck. 

I think that the US MIGHT let this go and pivot away from China because we have dual Pharisees who think. Iran is bigger fish to fry.  

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JohninMK peopledontwanttruth Tue, 05/08/2018 - 11:39 Permalink

Nailed it there. He now has Chinese agreement to be under their Nuke umbrella.

If a NK/SK peace agreement is also signed, perhaps with C/R/US backing then bang goes the need for 30k US troops protecting SK.

That is what some in DC really do not want, their spystation on China down the tubes plus why would SK and Japan still need all those expensive military toys they just ordered?

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peopledontwanttruth Buckaroo Banzai Tue, 05/08/2018 - 11:47 Permalink

Buckaroo I've always enjoyed your comments and while being disagreeable without arguing. I'm not disllusional    This would have happened under whoever is plastered as the president.   The world is splitting up.  Lines are being drawn and family bloodlines are still family blood.  

The USA days are numbered as many here agree.  

It makes you wonder with George Orwell and his book about three different countries/entities if he wasn't right all along.  

 

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Buckaroo Banzai peopledontwanttruth Tue, 05/08/2018 - 11:53 Permalink

Really? A core tenet of neocon foreign policy is, Israel must have its troops deployed all over the world. Of course the IDF doesn't stray far outside the borders of Israel, that's what the US Army is for. Killary was the neocon-approved candidate and would have done as she was told. Removing ZOG troops from anywhere would not be on the menu. And the only way this deal works is, US troops will be permanently pulled out of South Korea.

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IronForge Buckaroo Banzai Tue, 05/08/2018 - 12:39 Permalink

As a 2nd Gen Navy Vet who Served in Deployments to KOR (Late Father Served there from WWII to the Mid 80s)  I concur that with Secretary Clinton, we would have definitely been at War; and Nukes would have been detonated in the Chosin Peninsula and INCONUS.

However, POTUS Trump almost provoked a War Restart himself; and after the ChickenSiths, Warmongers, and MIC pretty much admitted that KOR(and our Troops Stationed there) were to be Sacrificed in a Gambit Attempt to quash PRK's ICBMs and Nukes (which would have failed), KOR moved ahead with the Negotiations under the Cover of the Olympics.

I would heavily credit Steve Bannon, allegedly the only Cabinet Staffer against a Military Solution at the time, for the War being avoided.  Bannon probably held off the ChickenSiths long enough during his Tenure, we ended up being close enough to the Pre Olympics Hype as the War Drummers were beginning to foam at their mouths.

10 Million+ Troops and Militia, with Heavy Artillery, TBMs, ICBMs, Nukes, with CHN backing up as the Hegemony Assaults.  No Fracking way would the Hegemony Win. PRK and/or CHN would.

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peopledontwanttruth DisorderlyConduct Tue, 05/08/2018 - 11:57 Permalink

Bingo.  The dollar is already known as toilet paper and the overextended military is not feared anymore. 

Put together the vast armies of China Russia NK, Iran and others who are already starting to shift or on their sides.  

Does the word Custer mean anything to you.  

The gig is over and the geopolitical earthquake is setting the players together against the old bully 

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LaugherNYC peopledontwanttruth Tue, 05/08/2018 - 11:45 Permalink

How is it possible for a human to be that stupid?

Trump makes clear he is crazy and is gonna wipe the North Korean regime out with precision strikes, and end their nuclear blackmail, no matter, as Vlad would say, how many of those people over there have to die. South Korea and China panic.

Trump simulatneously threatens China’s middle class with ruinous tarrifs that will trash their trade balance and bring massive pressure on their insanely overlevered consumers. Says bring NoKo to heel and we can talk. China is sick and tired of Kim, and would love to unload the NoKo Burden on SoKo and USA.

You wont see any trade agreement until the NoKo deal is signed.

This is 100000% Trump/Wilbur Ross.

And damn well done, if it finally works.

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Winston Churchill peopledontwanttruth Tue, 05/08/2018 - 11:59 Permalink

Russia has also given Kim a guarantee, but Putin is wisely staying in the shadows.

But denuking is still contingent on US forces leaving S. Korea even if it is being left unsaid.

From the way unilateral Nork denuking has changed to a nuke free "peninsular" it looks like

this has  already been agreed in principle, but many a slip between cup and lip.

Rogue factions in the MIC will not want this deal to go forward after three years+ of ignoring it.

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