Trump Tells Lawyers He "Didn't Know Anything" About Cohen Payments

Rudy Giuliani has struck again.

Time Magazine reported Wednesday afternoon that President Trump told Giuliani and his lead personal attorney, Jay Sekulow, that he wasn't aware of the "consulting fees" paid by several corporations and one Russian oligarch to Michael Cohen - payments that were publicly revealed last night by Stormy Daniels' lawyer Michael Avenatti.


And once again, Giuliani's poorly phrased on-the-record comments appear to have opened the door to criminality on the part of President Trump and/or Cohen, his former personal attorney.

Did Trump direct Cohen to accept payments from AT&T and Novartis (the former of which is suing Trump's Department of Justice to stop it from blocking its merger with Time Warner.

"I have no idea, I doubt it," said Giuliani.

Asked if the President directed Cohen to accept payments from companies like Novartis and AT&T, Guiliani said, "I have no idea. I doubt it." Guiliani believes the news helps Trump’s legal team because it feeds the impression that the investigations are moving far from Russian interference.

"They are chasing rainbows," Guiliani said. "This is yet another irrelevant thing that is made into a big thing."

A definitive "no" would've been a much better answer from a lawyer who is supposed to be defending Trump's best interests.

How about Avenatti's claims that Trump and Cohen were engaged in blatant pay-to-play self-dealing?

"It's probably two-thirds false," Giuliani said.

Guiliani said he was reluctant to call the President Tuesday night because he didn’t want to take him away from monitoring his Secretary of State’s negotiations over a summit with the North Korean leader Kim Jong Un and the release of three Americans from North Korea. Sekulow and Guiliani initially left a message at the White House saying they would like to talk to Trump, but it wasn’t urgent and only if he had free time. Sekulow declined to comment on the phone call.

During the call, Trump sounded “exhilarated and happy and satisfied” with what was happening on North Korea, Guiliani said. "Which is a hell of a lot more important than some stupid claim that is probably two-thirds false from this ambulance-chasing lawyer."

How about negotiations between the special counsel about a potential interview with Trump?

They're on hold, Giuliani said.

Given that the special counsel’s initial mandate is to investigate Russian collusion with Trump’s campaign, Trump’s legal team will "try to block them from everything they can do which would be far afield from that," he said.

Discussions over whether Trump will agree to be interviewed by Mueller are "right now on hold," he said. Trump shouldn’t take steps to shut down Mueller investigation, he said, but Mueller himself should bring it to a close "because they don’t really have anything."

While these weren't the most embarrassing comments Giuliani has made in the past week, they still weren't anywhere near the type of tight-lipped damage control that we'd expect from a personal attorney. We can't help but wonder: Is this some kind of revenge plot by Giuliani to get back at his "longtime friend" for choosing Rex Tillerson over him to serve as the Trump administration's first Secretary of State?

Of course, if Giuliani wanted to take Trump down, we imagine there are more expeditious options that he could choose.

But regardless of Giuliani's intentions, it's starting to look that way.


JoseyWalesTheOutlaw lester1 Wed, 05/09/2018 - 17:31 Permalink

Saw this about the bank transactions......…


Haaretz, the Israeli news outlet, found another case of mistaken identity in Avenatti’s report.

“Mr. Cohen received one wire transfer in the amount of $980.00 from a Kenyan bank from account holders Netanel Cohen and Stav Hayun to an account in Israel at Bank Hapoalim,” Avenatti wrote.

Haaretz caught up with Netanel Cohen, who acknowledged having a bank account in Kenya and transferring money to a Michael Cohen. But the Michael Cohen in questions is his brother, Netanel told the news outlet. And his brother is not Trump’s lawyer.

“I’ve never heard of Michael Cohen, and I have no connection to this affair,” Netanel told Haaretz.

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Muh Raf JoseyWalesTheOutlaw Wed, 05/09/2018 - 17:33 Permalink

Which Mike Cohen? Turns out some kind of dodgy search facility has been used here, that has dredged up other Mike Cohens that have absolutely nothing to do with the US geezer and his firm. Who has this kind of international banking search facility by name? Even the intelligence services are not meant to have that kind of tech/database. This is very worrying and we need to get to the bottom of how some slapper's lawyer from sleaze street managed to do this.

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dexterfarmer lester1 Wed, 05/09/2018 - 17:47 Permalink

Yes.   Lots of crimes which I am hopeful are getting exposed.  It's taking awhile because legal avenues are being used.  How novel.  Interesting that the lamestream does not report this:

Damn.  Every time they come up with something against DJT, just hold up a mirror.

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bowie28 SunRise Wed, 05/09/2018 - 17:21 Permalink

Now would be a good time to unseal a few indictments and get a few swamp creatures doing perp walks for the cameras. 

Start doing 3 or 4 a day the way Wikileaks was dumping batches of Podesta emails...

Do McCain first before he has a chance to die.  Then maybe Comey and Schumer to round out the first batch. 

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Giant Meteor Branded Wed, 05/09/2018 - 17:17 Permalink

Atlantic City ...

May 9, 2017 ... The Trump Taj Mahal, the Atlantic City casino the real estate mogul built for $1.2 billion in 1990, went for 4 cents on the dollar when it was sold in March.

Behold, the 8th wonder of the world ..

Anyone thinks this shitshow is going to turn out any better is likely delusional at this point. Not that i blame them mind you. There's a lot of shit to swim through ..

But at the end of the day, seems pretty clear to me ..

Oh well, better luck next republic ..

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Giant Meteor JoseyWalesTheOutlaw Wed, 05/09/2018 - 17:58 Permalink

The ultimate bench mark! So the orange messiah is not the black messiah.

Good enough!

You've got your small time political community organizing grifters , and your big time real estate mogul grifters, and sometimes both all at once .. I get the distinction ..

On the other hand , both indentity politics and the cult of personality sucks. Think reality tv , for openers. It's unreal. But lot's of folks are absolute suckers for it.

Josey, you were such a maverick once upon a time. Never kissed the ring of power, no matter who wore the ring. You fought the good fight, for the right to live, and to be free to believe in the righteousness of your own cause.

Above all you never gave in, never gave up.

What the fuck happened ?

Ok, and fuck Tony Rezko as well ...

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null Facemelt Wed, 05/09/2018 - 17:28 Permalink


Tell your looser buddies that it has Evolved into KAGA. It only takes a few months to exterminate the pests ... as you would know if you wanted to be informed.

Great does not mean perfect, silly goose. It just means that there will not be a close second until the DNC RICO gang can steal an election or two.

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null Wed, 05/09/2018 - 17:25 Permalink

Like anyone is gonna think worse of Donald because his buddy is running his mouth.

Rudy will keep talking nonsense because he and POTUS already know how this ends. They are simply playing it out and with every Bait, a few more worms jump on the hook, so that they can eventually catch bigger fish.

Wait until he “accidentally” mentions Seth ... 

serotonindumptruck null Wed, 05/09/2018 - 17:40 Permalink

Embarrassment and humiliation is the ultimate objective of the Executive?

No one doubts that Donald was the ultimate Playboy, and screwed as many hot women as he possibly could, because those women were gold-digging sluts who wanted his money.

It might help that he would at least admit to being a billionaire stud.


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Theos ZeroBeek Wed, 05/09/2018 - 18:39 Permalink



once you start you have to keep going cause you cant ever reconcile the bullshit.


people with bluster can lie their way through most problems on a small scale since they wont have to deal with the person they lied to more than a few times. 


in this case hes dealing with the entire world so yeah, people see the pattern.

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surf@jm Wed, 05/09/2018 - 18:21 Permalink

Bill Clinton molested interns, Raped women, while in the oval office and he`s a media darling.......

Trump had sex with a porn star ten years before being president, and paid to play unlike Slick Willy Clinton, but he must be impeached according to the media.....

And they wonder why people like me have cut the cable, on stupid nonsense media streaming into our houses......

CashMcCall surf@jm Wed, 05/09/2018 - 19:07 Permalink

More TrumpStupid Logic... First, off moron an apples to Orange fruit argument is a fallacy. Nobody cares at this point what Clinton did compared to Trump. Trump tried to cover up the Hush money to Stormy to avoid having the story pop out during the election. That's the issue bonehead, not Clinton, Not the Clinton Impeachment, but the fact that Donald Trump is a lowlife that cheats on his wife while pointing the finger at Bill Clinton, and tried to hide the deed from the electorate and got away with it until now. What we have now is a whole new cast of unimaginable sleazy characters starting with Cohen, Trump's Personal lawyer. Trump is easily as scummy as Clinton so live with it. 

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Heroic Couplet Wed, 05/09/2018 - 18:24 Permalink

If Trump and Guiliani think of witches, how much money did the witches contribute? What year is it okay for Flynn and Manafort to engage in money laundering? is there a link to the IRS web site?

Teeter Wed, 05/09/2018 - 21:22 Permalink

Mueller already knows about these payments and has already determined Trump is not involved, or you can be certain he would be dealing with Cohen himself rather than having dished it off. This is just more BS.