Watch CIA Veteran, 78, Get Dragged Out Of Haspel Confirmation And Tackled By Capitol Police

78-year-old former CIA analyst of 27 years turned anti-war protester, Ray McGovern, was dragged out of Gina Haspel's confirmation hearing on Wednesday, before being thrown to the ground and tackled by Capitol Police.

The hubbub started when Sen. Jack Reed, a Democrat from Rhode Island, asked Haspel about the morality of “enhanced interrogation techniques” (read: torture) and how she would react if one of her own officers were tortured. Would she consider a CIA officer being waterboarded by “terrorists” to be immoral? Reed wanted to know.

“Sorry to interrupt here,” McGovern said, standing up in the audience. “Senator Wyden, you deserve a direct answer.” Wyden, however, wasn’t questioning Haspel at the time, so it’s unclear what McGovern was referring to. -Vice

Capitol Police can be heard commanding McGovern to "stop resisting" as they pile on top of him, dislodging his glasses and injuring his shoulder. 

McGovern, a grandfather of nine who used to brief President Reagan every morning, demanded that Haspel answer questions about the CIA's waterbaording of prisoners at a CIA "black site" in Thailand. 

Prior to McGovern's forcible removal, a female protester was escorted out by Capitol Police after shouting "Bloody Gina!" and "you are a torturer!" - the former being a nickname given to Haspel by her colleagues at the CIA according to whistleblower John Kiriakou., 

Haspel came under fire in March after reports in the New York Times and ProPublica reported Haspell's involvement in the black site, as well as the decision to destroy 92 videotapes of the enhanced interrogation of Abu Zubaydah, a suspected al-Qaeda leader.

As acting head of the CIA following Mike Pompeo's departure to become Secretary of State, Haspel has promised not to create another torture program - though she wouldn't condemn the torture which took place at the black site under her watch. On Monday the CIA delivered a set of classified documents to the Senate, describing Haspell's 33-year career at the agency, "including her time in C.I.A's Counterterrorism Center in the years after 9/11." The files are available for every senator to read.

McGovern wrote an op-ed in Consortiumnews titled "Will a Torturer Become CIA Director?" in which he calls Haspel out for her role in the destruction of the Abu Zubaydah tapes. 

It is no secret that Haspel oversaw detainee torture, including waterboarding, at a CIA “black site” base in Thailand. The nonprofit National Security Archive, housed at The George Washington University, reports that Haspel later drafted a cable ordering the destruction of dozens of videotapes of torture sessions, including some from before her arrival. Haspel also helped feed repeated lies about the supposed effectiveness of torture to CIA superiors, Congress, and two presidents. -Ray McGovern

Haspel was grilled by legislators over a wide range of topics, including of course her tenure running the "black site" in Thailand. As Vice reports, "After McGovern was forced out of the room, Haspel continued to answer Reed’s question."

I don’t believe the terrorists follow any guidelines, or civilized norms, or the law,” she said, further insisting there was no comparison to be made between CIA agents and terrorists, even if both employed torture.



techpriest Fish Gone Bad Wed, 05/09/2018 - 20:05 Permalink

Still, listen to him here:…

Maybe he turned a new leaf or something, but he has been out in public speaking a lot of truth through his VIPS organization, including what appears to be a connection between the CIA today and Guccifer 2.0 (to make the Seth Rich leak look like a hack).

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Chupacabra-322 techpriest Wed, 05/09/2018 - 20:42 Permalink

Fucking High Time we end / ELIMINATE the Pure Evil War Criminal Treasonous Seditious Psychopaths at, in & at the State Dept., Ambassadors / “Agent Smith’s” in the MIC, LEO Agencies & other front Companies & NGO’s.  Their Cancer is everywhere & in everything.

Those “Lives” their referring to that would be put at risk are Pure Evil War Criminal Treasonous Seditious Psychopath “Assets, Agents & Operatives. 

Fuck them & their Tyrannical Lawlessness.

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hxc techpriest Thu, 05/10/2018 - 02:25 Permalink

Logged in just to upvote you and agree. Tom Woods is a legitimate libertarian, if a bit pessimistic these days, but an actual, true libertarian nonetheless and a good face of the movement. I started listening to him back when he used to substitute for Peter Schiff, let me tell you that Tom's show stuck with me a lot more. Crazy man, i was a junior in college back then. Ripping moles and puss and drinking myself half to death lol. Anyway, I feel like if a person can understand what both Tom Woods and Jim Fetzer are saying, then they probably get at least 80 to 90% of what really goes on. Cheers

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Chupacabra-322 Lost in translation Wed, 05/09/2018 - 20:46 Permalink

To state the obvious; the CIA has deeply humiliated the American people in their attempt to tie the American people to be responsible for the CIA's crimes against humanity across the world.


The CIA appears to be the world's greatest threat to peace and prosperity. It is the penultimate terrorist organization, being the direct or indirect creator of all other terrorist organizations. It also appears to be the world's penultimate illegal drug smuggler and pusher making all other illegal drug trading possible and instigating the horrors of addiction and suffering around the world.


If I believed that the CIA was working in any way on behalf of the US government and the American people then it would be sad and shameful indeed. However, it is my belief that the CIA instead was captured long ago, as was the secret military operations and now works for a hidden power that wants to dominate or failing that, destroy humanity.


The Agency is Cancer. There should be no question about the CIA's future in the US.


Dissolved & dishonored. Its members locked away or punished for Treason. Their reputation is so bad and has been for so long, that the fact that you joined them should be enough to justify arrest and Execution for Treason, Crimes Against Humanity & Crimes Against The American People.

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Al Gophilia Chupacabra-322 Wed, 05/09/2018 - 23:49 Permalink

The rest of the world recognizes the CIA as American. Funny that. Until you Americans denounce these agents of crime from within and end their existence, you are open to being collectively tarred with the same brush, and rightfully so. The CIA is not some branch of the Kalahari bushmen tribe. Is it your turn to revolt? Bravo to the lone, "woke", protestor.

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CatInTheHat techpriest Wed, 05/09/2018 - 22:57 Permalink

McGovern is a very good man and has been speaking out about the ills of the CIA and war for a long time. Several former CIA/MIC make up of reformers. Phillip Girardi, also a patriot anti war activist, and writer at strategic culture is part of VIPS.

Before anyone knocks it, go to Consortium news and read Ray's articles.

What happened there is CHILLING... AND KABUKI theater for the plebs in barely hidden pretentiousness of resistance to this war criminals testimony. A war criminal held in high esteem by a criminal Congress and enemies of the American people, while anti war protester man handled to the point of INJURY is simply outrageous. 

Why the living FUCK ARE WE ALLOWING this?

Think bloody Gina would ignore the orders to torture those who resist? Concentration camps could easily be revisited again HERE in the US. 


Heal soon, Ray you're my HERO today!!

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CTacitus Jeffersonian Liberal Wed, 05/09/2018 - 20:58 Permalink

No you GFY

Here is Ray calling Obama a whoos (toward the end):

And how he will lead us to nuclear war:

Here he also confronted Rumsfeld on Iraq lies:

And here he is on 9/11 for good measure:

He, like Philip Giraldi, amongst others, are the few only speaking out against Israeli influence and yet you choose to take shots at him?

Fuck you and the horse you rode in on!

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Jeffersonian Liberal CTacitus Fri, 05/11/2018 - 06:55 Permalink

No, GFY.

You denounce the CIA and yet you turn a blind eye to the fact that this loudmouth made a lucrative career working for it for years.

His denunciations are worthless. He stayed with the organization and did the bidding of all those presidents you claim to abhor.

He was their waterboy.

The fact that he 'protested' occasionally is just bullshit.

Yet you lap it up.

Just like they want you to.

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Jeffersonian Liberal Beowulf55 Fri, 05/11/2018 - 06:57 Permalink

No, he isn't.

TJ understood the bleak reality that war is sometimes necessary. And he also had no problem with 'taking the war to them' if got it over with faster and with less dead Americans.

You need to educate yourself. Hint: 100% isolationism and the liberal libertarianism that so many of the ZH herd mentality (sounds like you're a part of that blind herd) is not being 'educated' or 'enlightened.'

It is being deluded by a different dinner bell.

Jeffersonian Liberalism does not include pretending that if we 'just leave everyone alone' that we can live in peace and prosperity and that stupid fucking Utopia that Leftists are always trying to cajole us with.

Jeffersonian Liberalism seeks that but it acknowledges that sometimes you have to fight in a war to protect yourself and that sometimes you have to make agreements with other nations in order to prevent going to war.

Educate yourself on Tripoli.


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Jeffersonian Liberal Schooey Fri, 05/11/2018 - 07:03 Permalink

Douchebag. Based on one comment? What a foolish observation.

I've studied not only Jefferson and his writing but all of the Founding Fathers in great depth...with a special concentration on the debate over the US Constitution.

But hey, I said something that didn't give you a warm and fuzzy (that this loud mouth asshole has made a lifetime career in the agency that you and other lame ZHers claim to abhor and his righteous outrage is nothing more than a show since he never left the agency) so I must be a douchebag and uneducated. Brilliant.

I don't give a shit about his protests over the years. They mean nothing because he carried out whatever errands he was told to, and he continued to take a paycheck carrying out those orders.

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CatInTheHat Umh Wed, 05/09/2018 - 23:05 Permalink

Maybe, but what a great show of courage.

Gee maybe if Americans had had the BALLS they could have stormed DC by the millions after 9/11 and demanded Bush Cheney be ARRESTED FOR WAR CRIMES, Ray might not have had to take a stand at all. We are a bunch of complacent cowards. 

BTW, there is ZERO statute of limitation on WAR CRIMES.  

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