Did Putin Green-Light Tonight's Massive Israeli Strikes On Syria?

Just off a 10-hour visit with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Moscow, and less than a day after Trump pulled out of the Iran nuclear deal, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said on Wednesday he doesn't expect Russia to act against Israeli forces as they continue exchanging fire with Syria. 

It appears the meeting wrapped up at the very moments a major escalation began along the Golan Heights, with both Syria and Israel trading blame for an initial attack which quickly escalated into Israeli cruise missile launches and shelling on targets in southern Syria and notably, on Damascus itself.

Putin and Netanyahu at the "Victory Day Parade" at Moscow's Red Square on Wednesday. Image source: Reuters via Newsweek.

The question remains, did Putin give Netanyahu the green light for tonight's events? 

If it wasn't clear over the past weeks and months of unprovoked Israeli strikes on Syriaostensibly to roll back Iranian troop presencethen it should be very clear by now that Syria, Israel, and Iran are now in a state of war and all signs point to a continued intensification of the conflict. 

And crucially, there's currently no sign that Russia came to the aid of its close ally as rockets rained down on Damascus overnight.  Russia has routinely looked the other way while Israel has conducted, by its own admission, over one hundred major strikes on Syriamost of which have come after Russian intervention on behalf of Assad in 2015. 

As Reuters reported late in the day Wednesday, Netanyahu told reporters just before departing Moscow: “Given what is happening in Syria at this very moment, there is a need to ensure the continuation of military coordination between the Russian military and the Israel Defence Forces.” The Russians and Israelis coordinate their actions through a direct military hotline intended to avoid accidental clashes which could lead to escalation between the two countries. 

A reportedly "upbeat" Netanyahu further said, “"In previous meetings, given statements that were putatively attributed to - or were made by - the Russian side, it was meant to have limited our freedom of action or harm other interests and that didn’t happen, and I have no basis to think that this time will be different."

Thus it appears Israel may have been given a green light by Putin to engage targets in Syria, however, at this point it is unclear what limitations or restrictions Putin may have issued, if any at all.  

Furthermore, the context and timing of the Putin-Netanyahu meeting suggests an increasingly cozy and warming relationship even as the crisis intensifies in Syria. According to Reuters:

During his 10-hour Moscow visit, the Israeli leader attended, alongside Putin, annual Red Square celebrations of the anniversary of the end of World War Two. Israel recognizes the Russian date, May 9. Most Western powers mark it on May 8.

“When the president of Russia invites the prime minister of the state of the Jews to stand alongside him at the parade symbolizing the Red Army’s victory over the Nazis, its liberation, also, of the (concentration) camps, of Jews and others – for Russia, that is very significant,” Israeli Intelligence Minister Israel Katz told the Ynet news site.

Reuters also noted that Israel has not joined Western sanctions against Russia over the crisis in Ukraine and allegations that its intelligence services poisoned a Russian ex-spy in Britain.

Meanwhile things are escalating in Syria by the hour and by the day.

Early unconfirmed reports suggest Syrian defense systems may have intercepted multiple Israeli rockets, while the pro-opposition media site SOHR says an air strike near Damascus killed at least 15 people, including eight Iranians. Reports have cited Syrian military sources which claim "dozens" of Israeli rockets downed by Syrian air defenses during the sustained attack.

As we've reported, Israel is claiming to be acting against Iranian aggression, while Syria state media reports cite government officials as saying no Iranians have engaged Israel and are not in the areas of Israeli attacks.

Pro-government Al-Mayadeen reported that as of 3am (Damascus time) over 50 Rockets had been launched at Israel by Syrian forces, and journalists on the ground said Israeli aircraft engaged targets near Damascus while flying over the border area.

And into the early morning hours massive explosions were still being reported around Damascus. 

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J S Bach Thu, 05/10/2018 - 01:05 Permalink

If so, God help us all.

It's amazing how events of history reverberate down the corridors of time.  3 generations ago, the world permitted the land of Palestine to be stolen.  The pirates who coerced the nations into allowing that nefarious deed now hold the fate of the world in their cloven hooves.  God help us all.

Harry Lightning Blue Steel 309 Thu, 05/10/2018 - 03:12 Permalink

Formal logic ? What more logic do you need than eyewitness testimony that was written and preserved since ?

I agree that religion is "fraudulent", better said to be mankind's way of trying to explain how and why we all are on this little spec of cosmic rock. 

But within the context of those fantasies there are hierarchical structures, and Jesus was reported to be part of that structure within Judaism.

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HowdyDoody Harry Lightning Thu, 05/10/2018 - 03:23 Permalink

Putin totally ignored Boobie at the Victory Parade. he spent his time talking to Alexander Vucic, the Serbian president. He even moved Boobie out of the front line when the security service team were a little too forceful; with a WW II vet who wanted to speak to Putin. The vet took Boobie's place on the front line.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NC-XcmefN4U

Boobie did get a good view of the things that would be coming his way if he endangers Russian assets - the Mig-31 with the Khinzal hypersonic long range missile.

 

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Harry Lightning HowdyDoody Thu, 05/10/2018 - 03:27 Permalink

The fact that Putin even met with Netanyahu should make you stop and take notice. In diplomacy there always are at least two sides, the public and the private. Whatever they had to talk about was concluded before that parade. The best way to understand the tea leaves at the Kremlin is to look at results, and with Israel launching major attacks against Iranian positions in Syria subsequent to that meeting, the tea leaves are becoming very obvious in what they are saying.

The towels are shaking on the heads of the mullahs in Tehran this morning.

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Harry Lightning Billy the Poet Thu, 05/10/2018 - 03:45 Permalink

You said that, not I. The imbeciles who took over Iran in 1979 who wear towels on their heads and have fathered and mothered most of the terrorism seen in the Middle East since including taking American hostages for over a year until Reagan promised to annihilate them...yeah, those assholes deserve payback for all the mischief they have caused. Their own people march in the streets demanding their ouster, embarrassing them to the Iranian people just may lead to their downfall. 

For which the world would be a better place. 

More-off.

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Harry Lightning Billy the Poet Thu, 05/10/2018 - 04:04 Permalink

I'll tell you what I told the other clown on this topic :

Had you learned some history before spewing your nonsense all over the internet you would have understood why and how Mossadegh sealed his own doom by making it look like he was aligning his country with the Soviets as the Cold War was developing. He left the Americans no choice but to remove him as the US would not allow the Soviets a warm water port into the Orient through the Persian Gulf after they stole half of Europe after the world war ended. 

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Harry Lightning Billy the Poet Thu, 05/10/2018 - 04:53 Permalink

As if the Soviets did not have a lot of that information already ? Think about this...if your thesis was correct, how is it that Pollard gave that information to the Israeli government in the mid 1980s. If the Israelis had forwarded it to the Soviets, and if it was so important as to put the world in jeopardy, then why did the Soviets allow themselves to get entangled at the same time in an arms race with the US that wound up bankrupting them by 1991 ? If they had such important military information from Pollard via Israel, they would have known enough so as not to take the bait and get into an arms race they could neither afford or win.

Furthermore, why would the Israelis give military plans from their ally to a country who was aligned against that ally. Makes no sense. 

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Billy the Poet Harry Lightning Thu, 05/10/2018 - 06:18 Permalink

Furthermore, why would the Israelis give military plans from their ally to a country who was aligned against that ally. Makes no sense.

 

It made sense to the Israelis. It also made sense to the Israelis to murder my mother's school friend and 33 of his shipmates who served aboard the USS Liberty. They attacked our sailors with weapons we had given to them.

 

 

Betrayal behind Israeli attack on U.S. ship

ADM. THOMAS MOORER

On June 8, 1967, Israel attacked our proud naval ship -- the USS Liberty -- killing 34 American servicemen and wounding 172. Those men were then betrayed and left to die by our own government.

Some distinguished colleagues and I formed an independent commission to investigate the attack on the USS Liberty. After an exhaustive review of previous reports, naval and other military records, including eyewitness testimony from survivors, we recently presented our findings on Capitol Hill. They include:

· Israeli reconnaissance aircraft closely studied the Liberty during an eight-hour period prior to the attack, one flying within 200 feet of the ship. Weather reports confirm the day was clear with unlimited visibility. The Liberty was a clearly marked American ship in international waters, flying an American flag and carrying large U.S. Navy hull letters and numbers on its bow.

Despite claims by Israeli intelligence that they confused the Liberty with a small Egyptian transport, the Liberty was conspicuously different from any vessel in the Egyptian navy. It was the most sophisticated intelligence ship in the world in 1967. With its massive radio antennae, including a large satellite dish, it looked like a large lobster and was one of the most easily identifiable ships afloat.

· Israel attempted to prevent the Liberty's radio operators from sending a call for help by jamming American emergency radio channels.

· Israeli torpedo boats machine-gunned lifeboats at close range that had been lowered to rescue the most seriously wounded.

As a result, our commission concluded that:

· There is compelling evidence that Israel's attack was a deliberate attempt to destroy an American ship and kill her entire crew.

· In attacking the USS Liberty, Israel committed acts of murder against U.S. servicemen and an act of war against the United States

· The White House knowingly covered up the facts of this attack from the American people.

· The truth continues to be concealed to the present day in what can only be termed a national disgrace.

What was Israel's motive in launching this attack? Congress must address this question with full cooperation from the National Security Agency, the Central Intelligence Agency and the military intelligence services.

The men of the USS Liberty represented the United States. They were attacked for two hours, causing 70 percent of American casualties, and the eventual loss of our best intelligence ship.

These sailors and Marines were entitled to our best defense. We gave them no defense.

Did our government put Israel's interests ahead of our own? If so, why? Does our government continue to subordinate American interests to Israeli interests?

 

Moorer was chairman of the joint chiefs of staff from 1970 to 1974. He is joined in the independent commission of inquiry by Gen. Ray Davis (recently deceased); Rear Adm. Merlin Staring; former Judge Advocate General of the Navy and Ambassador James Akins.

 

https://www.chron.com/opinion/outlook/article/Betrayal-behind-Israeli-a…

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Victor999 Harry Lightning Thu, 05/10/2018 - 05:09 Permalink

"He left the Americans no choice but to remove him...."

 

A truly asinine statement by someone who is apparently fully aligned with the idea of America being exceptional, feeling themselves able to cast judgement on any country or person in the world without criticism.

 

America did have a choice.  They could have behaved better towards the Arab countries and not allowed the Israeli terrorists to steal Palestine against the wishes of the UN and international law.

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Harry Lightning Victor999 Thu, 05/10/2018 - 05:23 Permalink

Your bias shines through. Since I don't tolerate fools gladly, I will make this short and sweet. I explained to you the thinking on the part of the Americans as to why they displaced Mossadegh, Anyone who has more than a cursory understanding of the Cold War developments at the time will understand why the Americans acted in a way that promoted their national interests, If you cannot understand those priorities you really should not be in this conversation. 

America is exceptional in many ways, and over 100 million people owe their political freedom today to the efforts made by the Americans in the last hundred years. But that has nothing to do with why the Americans decided they had to remove Mossadegh.

Furthermore if you think that the Iranian theocratic leadership has governed in Iran in any way to avenge the toppling of Mossadegh, then you have a naivete that defies belief. Which is why what happened in 1952 in Iran has no bearing on how the US should deal with the Iranian government today.

Palestine was not stolen by the Israelis. Their people had lived on the land for generations and when the British decided to leave the governance of the land, the people who lived on a portion of it had the right to claim it as their own. Not because I say so, but because the world agreed to this principle in several resolutions, notably 242. If you have an argument with that, take it up with the UN rather than waste my time with your anti-Israeli sentiment. 

 

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Victor999 Harry Lightning Thu, 05/10/2018 - 05:43 Permalink

It is you who are wasting people's time on this site with your lies and obfuscations.  No one owes their freedom to America.  Ever.  Not the native Americans tens of millions of whom the US government brutally wiped out.  Not the Europeans who owe their freedoms today to the Soviets who destroyed the greatest military machine ever created.  Not the millions who have been killed by American bombs and economic sanctions over the years. 

 

As for Israel, here is the real story behind the creation of the Jewish terrorist entity called Israel - read it for a proper understanding of what actually took place at that time.

 

https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2010/10/26/the-myth-of-the-u-n-cre…

 

As for the Shah and America, the Iranians hated America for what it did in installing the brutal Shah to power.  They will never forget or forgive the Americans for doing that.  So again, you are deceptive in that you try to convey that the Iranians were bitter at America for removing Mossadegh, when actually they were embittered over the installation of the evil Shah, America's friend and their kind of dictator.  Indeed, America today is fully supporting the Saudi family who is in the process of another genocidal murder rampage in Yemen, and whose Wahhabi terrorism has destroyed lives across the world for generations now.

 

You lie.  You always lie.  Your father is the Father of Lies.

 

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Harry Lightning Victor999 Thu, 05/10/2018 - 07:35 Permalink

You would be speaking German now if not for the US efforts in the Second World War. And the Soviet republics would still be getting their marching orders from Moscow, along with the People in Czech Republic, Hungary, Poland, Romania and East Germany. There would be no elections in Afghanistan and Iraq, Thailand would be under communist dictate, as would be Nicaragua and perhaps some South American countries. No one has done more to advance the ability of people around the globe to choose who would govern them and how, and it was US taxpayer money and US soldier blood that made all this happen. 

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LaugherNYC Victor999 Thu, 05/10/2018 - 11:38 Permalink

Yes the Russian people sacrificed much to defeat Germany - when Germany INVADED them. What, were they fighting to save themselves for the good of Europe??? Haaaaaa!

Then, the Russians were rewarded with the endless death brought by their own sons, another Vlad and a Joe.

The US saved all of Europe and without them, Russia would have fallen, as well. If Hitler had been able to just sweep up on the Western front, he would have had a vastly better-supplied and far less worn down invasion force that would have moved much faster, and also would have been able to move months sooner, thus avoiding the winter mistake.

Yes, America has made mistakes in interfering in Middle Eastern affairs. But the biggest mistakes have been made by the Arab peoples, supporting and allowing genocidal religious kleptocrats and lunatics to lead them against their allies, and ally with their enemies.

If all these superb people were willing to live in a world of tolerance, freedom, cooperation and respect, they would flower as a truly great civilization. Instead, they embrace the death cult, looking to destroy a tiny country that poses NO THREAT whatsoever to them, and has sued for peace on beyond reasonable terms too many times to count. That would remove the strawman boogeyman that the Mullahs and Vlad need to perpetrate their frauds and thievery.

 

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Harry Lightning lakecity55 Thu, 05/10/2018 - 07:28 Permalink

Yes, that is correct. I am not disputing that the Iranians were upset with the US in 1952. I am simply describing why the US felt it was in their national interest to depose Mossadegh to counter the incorrect explanation that was offered herein.

Mossadegh was deposed because he presented himself as a threat to the US by his indications of alignment with the Soviet Union.

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Harry Lightning oncemore1 Thu, 05/10/2018 - 04:10 Permalink

Are you saying the US or Israel is the bigger terrorist, I did not fully understand your last sentence. ?

I will save you the trouble...if you meant Israel, answer me this. If your family had been living on land they did not own but had lived there for many generations, and the absentee owner of the property told you and your neighbors to work out how you wanted to split the land because the present owner did not want the land any longer, and your neighbors then told you to fuck off and get out, what would you do ? That's what happened in Palestine in 1947, and that's why the Jews fought to keep the land they were on. Since then, the surrounding neighbors have tried on many occasions to get them off, so the Israelis defended themselves. Today, most of the people in the area who object to Israel came their in 1971 after being thrown out of Jordan and should not even have a say in how the land is divided. Yet in 1995 Israel acceded to 95% of their demands, and guaranteed them their own State and ownership of the land they live on. And the Palestineans walked away.

So when I look at the history there, I do not see terrorism on the part of Israel, I see a people defending their land against neighbors who don't want them to live there. 

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Harry Lightning Billy the Poet Thu, 05/10/2018 - 04:22 Permalink

I wrote more about this in the thread below. Truth be told, when the Brits decided to get out, they left it to the people living there to decide how they would distribute ownership. The Arabs wanted the Jews out altogether, and the Jews wanted to stay on the land their families lived on for generations. They had a war and the Jews defended their land. That's not terrorism.. As to thousands of Jews coming to the region after the war, that pales in comparison to the million or more Palestineans who came there after they were expelled from Jordan in 1971.

Bottom line is that the Jews offered the Palestineans 85% of what they wanted in 1995, including their land and Statehood. And the Palestineans said no. Too fucking bad, they sealed their own doom.

I thought you were a poet. How about some poetry ? You're making my fucking head spin.

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Billy the Poet Harry Lightning Thu, 05/10/2018 - 04:48 Permalink

Yes, of course. The British newsreel from 1946 which I posted is wrong and you are right. The "thousands of Jewish terrorists" who hid explosives in synagogues and forged Palestine government bonds to fiance their attacks were a figment of the film makers' imagination. YOU know better.

 

And the bombing of the King David Hotel never happened either, I suppose. Jewish terrorists did not murder a hundred British citizens and fifty years later Netanyahu did not dedicate a memorial on the site which praised the attackers rather than the victims of the bombing.

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