Russia Says No S-300 Missiles For Syria After Netanyahu Visit

Russia has made an apparent U-turn on its prior signaling that it would supply the advanced S-300 surface-to-air missiles to Syria after this week's major escalation between Syria and Israel, which involved scores of surface-to-surface rockets being fired by both sides, primarily across the contested Golan border, and some 28 Israeli aircraft firing around 60 air-to-surface missiles at Syria during the exchange.

Is this the beginning of a Russian lack of commitment in Syria? Or is this the realization that Syria can stand on its own after creating new rules of engagement with Israel? 

Russia is now indicating Syria has "everything it needs" to repel Israeli aggression. 

Jerusalem Post: "Israel fears the S-300 would hamper its ability to attack military sites in Syria that are dangerous to the Jewish State and would therefore allow Iran to strengthen its military foothold in that country."

Reuters reports that Putin's personal aide indicated the change in calculus

The comments, by Vladimir Kozhin, an aide to President Vladimir Putin who oversees Russian military assistance to other countries, follow a visit to Moscow by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu this week, who has been lobbying Putin hard not to transfer the missiles.

"For now, we're not talking about any deliveries of new modern (air defense) systems," Izvestia cited Kozhin as saying when asked about the possibility of supplying Syria with S-300s.

The Syrian military already had "everything it needed," Kozhin added.

Late last month Russian Defense Ministry officials caught the world's attention by announcing through state-run RIA that it "plans to deliver new air defense systems to Syria in the near future" after a series of unprovoked Israeli strikes inside Syria, which Israel claims targets Iranian troops and assets. Talk of delivery of the S-300 has been a constant since President Trump ordered a massive tomahawk missile attack on Damascus and other locations on April 13th, ostensibly in retaliation for al-Qaeda linked Jaish al-Islam claims of a chemical attack on civilians by the Syrian Army. 

It must also be remembered that this week's exchange of fire began just as Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu concluded the 10-hour visit with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Moscow, and less than a day after Trump pulled out of the Iran nuclear deal. Netanyahu told reporters immediately after the short meeting that he didn't expect Russia to act against Israeli forces as they continue escalating attacks on Syria, supposedly while enforcing their "Iranian red line." 

While it's possible that Putin may have personally given a green light for Netanyau to act (or at least discussed understood limitations and conditions), what is certain is that Syria hasgiven its significant response in the form of between 20 and 50 missiles launched in return fireimposed new rules of engagement.

Though international reports have consistently pointed to hits on the Israeli side, Israel has apparently been extremely careful in preventing photographs or video of any potential damage on the Israeli side to see the light of day. According to professor of Middle East history Asad AbuKhalil, "Israel censor still hasn’t allowed any reports about casualties or damage."

Syria's current missile defense systems appear to have performed well. The Syrian Arab News Agency (SANA) reported, citing a military source, that the army’s air defenses had “shot down dozens of Israeli missiles, preventing most of them from reaching their targets,” however, some of the rockets managed to hit radars and an ammunition depot. But beyond this, the multiple videos purporting to show direct intercepts by Syrian defenses make for a convincing case.

Could it be that Moscow understands that Syria's current Soviet supplied S-200 system (among other integrated systems) is doing just fine against Israeli incursions, and sees no need to further escalate tensions with Tel Aviv? Israel has long promised to attack any S-300 deliveries or installation sites even before they come online. 

There's the other possibility that Moscow has in fact decided to move forward with the S-300's for Syria while publicly distancing itself. To train Syrians on the new system would take at least a month, according to past Russian military statements, and would initially involve Russian personnel to man the systemsall of which would further risk escalation with Israel, especially if Israel followed through on threats of striking missile locations with Russians present. 

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov has previously warned that, “We never announced these deliveries as such. However, we said that after the strikes [by the US, France and the UK on Syria], Russia reserves the right to do whatever it deems necessary."

The Russian-made S-300 and S-400 are widely acknowledged to be far superior in their capability and reach that Syria's current S-200 system. If installedsomething which now appears unlikely to occur anytime soonSyria might very well become untouchable. But this is precisely what Israel worries about, as Haaretz noted recently, "With Putin's S-300, Assad's army could even 'lock-on' IAF aircraft as they take off from bases within Israel." And as one Israeli defense analyst put it"Israel should be worried."

For now, however, it could be that Netanyahu's lobbying worked. Or perhaps Israel is already worried that Syria seems to an impressive degree already deterring some of the Israeli barrage even with its current 30-year old systems. 

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Chupacabra-322 Fri, 05/11/2018 - 17:28 Permalink

They’re all in on it.

 and sees no need to further escalate tensions with Tel Aviv?”

” and sees no need to further escalate tensions with Zionist’s?”

Fixed it for the author.  

beemasters Sir Edge Fri, 05/11/2018 - 17:31 Permalink

What's the deal? I'd like to know the offer that Putin couldn't refuse.
I found it odd from the start when Putin practically let Israhell bomb Syria...only to suggest exercising restraint on both sides AFTER the damage was done. He was warned by Bibi of the attack and did nothing to prevent it.

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HowdyDoody corsair Fri, 05/11/2018 - 18:43 Permalink

For now, we're not talking about any deliveries of new modern (air defense) systems. ... The Syrian military already had everything it needed"

Parsing the carefully worded politico speak:

New modern = S-500 = first line

Less new modern = S-400 = second line

Older not modern = S-300 = third line, recycled to Syria when Russia upgrades to S-400.

The S-300s are already there. There will be no more delivered as they have what they need.

 

 

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revolla Gaius Frakkin'… Fri, 05/11/2018 - 23:32 Permalink

"For now, we're not talking about any deliveries of new modern (air defense) systems," 

That sentence did not specify anything about S300. It's as vague as can be. Besides, the S400 is the new system.

"Syria has everything it needs" can also mean it has the S300. No one will ever know.

Satanyahoo is spinning the whole thing in order to make everyone in his hellhole APARTHEID country see

it's okay to continue attacking Syria until the BIG WAR explodes.

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The Ram Gaius Frakkin'… Sat, 05/12/2018 - 08:41 Permalink

Syria seems to be doing just fine with their current 'old' missiles.  The attacks by Israel (to this point) seem to be mostly symbolic.  No reports of mass casualties, and no hits on shared Syrian/Russian facilities.  Like the US attacks, they seem almost symbolic and political.  Putin seems really passive at this point.  I am not sure if he has an ace up the sleeve or perhaps is growing weary of a conflict without an apparent resolution.  Stay tuned.

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FBaggins MaxThrust Sat, 05/12/2018 - 11:11 Permalink

S300's so what? Russia is not withdrawing from Syria. It continues to send equipment and likely more personnel and is persistently and successfully directing the war. It cannot afford to lose its ally in the region and will not be driven out by anything Israel or the US does at this stage. Putin knows as does the rest of the world that no matter who replaces Netanyahu it will have to be a ZioNazi to please Daddy Warbucks. Yet, on the world stage both leaders can posture to assure people things are under control.

The entire Zio structure is not built on ethnic loyalty or even on the Talmud.  It is built on the pecking order established in the money chain and the hand that feeds their advancement and power. The real war is between the Rothschild cabal which controls the West and the remaining so-called "rogue" nations, Russia, Syria and Iran. All indications are that despite the cabal's financial influence and investments in China, that nation is more and more aligning itself with Russia. Also, in the West more and more nations and people are weary of Zio-Rothschild political, financial and media control everywhere they turn around and are electing more and more for national self-determination from this cabal as Russia has done. As well people everywhere are becoming increasingly aware of their their extensive history of manipulations, take overs, and unjust wars. Syria is only one example.  Many people have come to the conclusion that it is time for a complete and thorough regime change in the West.    

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Petrodollar Sy… HowdyDoody Fri, 05/11/2018 - 23:10 Permalink

Yes, but how are Syria's needs defined? This doesn't answer the question of why is Russia doing this. Which of the following is true:

a) Israel is threatening to destroy shipments of newer defenses en route or upon arrival

b) Israel and Russia have negotiated on terms of a truce (possibly including threat of sanctions)

c) Russia feels that either they, Syria, or Syria + Iran, are positioned well enough to defend Syria against invasion, and literally no additional modern air defenses would add greater benefit

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GreatUncle nmewn Fri, 05/11/2018 - 21:09 Permalink

Lol Putin playes infinite level chess dimensions.

Not really :-) know the score do not engage and wait.

Do not be seen as the agressors ... imagine NATO invaded Russia who is the agressor again?

Who do you fight for? Note NATO is a dumb answer.

The person who wins the next war must be liked by their populations.

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nmewn Billy the Poet Fri, 05/11/2018 - 19:14 Permalink

Well sure they could but thats a long haul. 

Russia is geographically unique in this respect (a blessing and a curse) they don't have that many ways of portage from Mother Rus, which is why they have always coveted warm water ports. 

However, their geography is a tactical advantage (as that idiot fucktard Hitler found out...lol)...natural defensive inner lines and a vast territory to hold for any aggressor. 

Kind of a double edged sword, metaphorically.

As to your second point, I'm not an "educated military guy" (just a novice with an interest in the martial arts) but from what I can tell these are shipped on the decks of freighters, like the last batch that went through the straits.

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cryingfreeman Billy the Poet Sat, 05/12/2018 - 08:55 Permalink

That, right there (the Jerusalem Post quote), is the crux of why Putin has done this odd U-turn. In fact, he has done a lot of odd things of late; he promised to strike back if Syria was attacked, but sat on his hands. He got re-elected and instead of enacting the purge of pro-West voices many in Russia expected, he consolidated their position by reappointing Medvedev as PM. Reasons?

1. He (and his power base) is buckling under the sanctions; or,

2. He needs to buy time before Russia's military is ready for a general, planetwide war; or,

3. Both of the above.

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Escrava Isaura Bud Dry Fri, 05/11/2018 - 18:20 Permalink

beemasters I found it odd from the start when Putin practically let Israhell bomb Syria…

Not odd at all. Your answer is on the Jewish Bible that, by the way, conveniently predicts that the enemies of Israel will bow to Israel or they will be destroyed by their monotheistic God, who is Jew, after all, monotheistic god didn’t exist before the Jews created it.

Anyway, lots of unnecessary if’s in this article because we know how this end. How can you tell?

Putin is already repenting, contrary to the Egyptian Pharaoh that went after the folklore figure of Moses.

Which goes back to my first statement, you know, the bow to the god part of it or, get destroyed like the mystic Pharaoh.

 

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attah-boy-Luther Escrava Isaura Fri, 05/11/2018 - 18:54 Permalink

You should add reading history as part of your bible reading.

Because these scum are NOT the Hebrew of the bible.

 

You are but one of millions duped into bowing before the perpetual victims of the world. Then there are those where history does not matter and will support these vile talmudic-kabbalistc blood eating scums.

Here is a teaser:

KEY POINTS: The Apartheid  State of Israel (sometimes known as the Modern State of Israel) is in no way related to the people of Israel referred to in the Holy Bible.  The Modern State of Israel (MIS) is a purely political entity fabricated by the modern-day Ashkenazi Zionist descendants of the Khazarian kingdom that was converted to Judaism by their king during the 8th century A.D.  The true record clearly indicates that the MIS never existed in it present form and as it has been shoehorned on the geographic area known as Palestine.  The factual historical record clearly proves that the land known as Palestine was outright stolen from the Palestinians by the Rothschild banking cartel which employed the British and American governments to carry out and legitimize the theft.  The imprimatur of the United Nations was then used to ‘bless’ this 100-year crime spree that began at the turn of the last century.

 

Here is the link for proper attribute:

http://themillenniumreport.com/2018/05/apartheid-state-of-israel-determ…

 

now once you learn history what will your world view be? same? support criminal thugs? You cannot unlearn this so now its all on you.

and applies to future readers as well.

Can't post facts and history on brite-fart it is a zionist created news site.

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Billy the Poet ShakenNotStirred Fri, 05/11/2018 - 19:34 Permalink

True Torah Jews

 

Our Mission

 

The relatively new concept of Zionism began only about one hundred years ago and since that time Torah-true Jewry has steadfastly opposed the Zionist ideology. This struggle is rooted in two convictions:

1. Zionism, by advocating a political and military end to the Jewish exile, denies the very essence of our Diaspora existence. We are in exile by Divine Decree and may emerge from exile solely via Divine Redemption. All human efforts to alter a metaphysical reality are doomed to end in failure and bloodshed. History has clearly borne out this teaching.

2. Zionism has not only denied our fundamental belief in Heavenly Redemption it has also created a pseudo-Judaism which views the essence of our identity to be a secular nationalism. Accordingly, Zionism and the Israeli state have consistently endeavored, via persuasion and coercion, to replace a Divine and Torah-centered understanding of our peoplehood with an armed materialism.

 

http://www.truetorahjews.org/mission

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Escrava Isaura Billy the Poet Fri, 05/11/2018 - 20:28 Permalink

We are in exile by Divine Decree and may emerge from exile solely via Divine Redemption.

Says who?

Zionism has not only denied our fundamental belief in Heavenly Redemption it has also created a pseudo-Judaism

Isn’t Christianity an even bigger sham than Judaism?

Second, Zionism is an extension of colonization.

Then, if Judaism is such a big lie, why use the Judaic Bible? The Judaic God? And distorted the Jewish scriptures?  

It makes no sense on the part of the Christians and/or the Arabs to follow Jewish doctrines, scriptures, God, and so on. Absolutely none, doesn't matter how many more lies you pile on top of the bogus scriptures of yours.

The way you see the problem starts by facing your problem.

 

Note: I am not excusing the rotten things Israel do to the Palestinians. Palestinians are the real victims here.   

 

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Max Hunter Escrava Isaura Sat, 05/12/2018 - 07:58 Permalink

Putin is backing off because the US/Israel/Saud are throwing puches as the are walking backwards over a cliff.  Look for the move on the USD and uncovering of a massive fraud that shines a light on the balance sheet of the FED that is 10X bigger than they claim because they are suppying the US Government with money and blowing up the asset bubble at the same time.  Instant and hard crash coming and Israel will be on their own, so will Saud.  All they (Russia/Iran) have to do is wait it out, without allowing the US/Israel/Saud start an all out war to blame the collapse on.

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Posa nmewn Fri, 05/11/2018 - 19:24 Permalink

Nah. Putin is focused on raising Russian standards of living and feels the country has enough military weapons to defend itself. He's not looking for new military engagements. And remember, Russia is surrounded by land and sea in the West. There are rumblings on the home front and he's listening to what he's hearing. Which is a smart move.

http://www.atimes.com/article/putin-comes-out-with-a-russia-first-strat…

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