Europe May Fold, But China And Russia See Opportunity

Authored by Mike Krieger via Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,

And we recently discovered, if it was not known before, that no amount of power can withstand the hatred of the many. 

–  Marcus Tullius Cicero

Although European leaders are talking a big game about keeping the Iran deal (JCPOA) alive following Trump’s unilateral withdrawal, there’s a good chance nations across the pond, especially the UK and France, will ultimately fold to U.S. demands. This is despite the fact these countries stand to lose far more economically than America. Acquiescing to U.S. imperial demands as submissive client states is simply what Europe does. On the other hand, China and Russia sense opportunity for major geopolitical gains and will not back down.

Political leaders in China and Russia must be licking their chops at the short-sighted stupidity of Donald Trump’s decision to ditch the Iran deal. As mentioned in previous pieces, the Trump administration isn’t just saying the U.S. will sanction Iran from its end, but that it could leverage the global financial system and its dependency on the USD, to punish those who dare defy U.S. policy.

As discussed in the recent post, The Road to 2025 (Part 3) – USD Dominated Financial System Will Fall Apart, this unilateral move against Iran is likely to be a key catalyst in the planet transitioning away from a financial system completely and totally dominated by the USD into a more multi-polar currency world. Trump’s essentially willing to trade away U.S. global geopolitical and financial dominance because he’s obsessed with taking out the Iranian regime.

While Europe may not be willing to make a huge fuss about all this right now, its leaders, and more importantly its citizenry, know exactly what this means. As long as the global financial system is totally dominated and controlled from the U.S. via the USD, no country on earth can be truly sovereign, in terms of economic or foreign policy.

In case you still aren’t getting how serious this is, let me point you to a few comments recently made by Russian leader Vladimir Putin:

In comments to lawmakers on Tuesday after his inauguration for a record fourth term as president, Putin said a “break” from the U.S. currency is necessary to bolster Russia’s “economic sovereignty,” especially in light of recent penalties and what he called politically motivated restrictions on trade.

“The whole world can see that the dollar’s monopoly is precarious and dangerous for many,” he said. “Our gold and currency reserves are being diversified, and we’ll continue to do that further…”

Putin acknowledged this week that since oil trades in dollars, “we are thinking of what needs to be done to free ourselves from that burden.”

Every world leader understands this, Putin’s just unique since he’s willing to come out and say it. It’s not just Russia though. People across the world have had just about enough of U.S. bullying and recognize USD dominance in the global financial system represents the key obstacle to overcome if they wish to avoid being pushed around forever.

Chinese leaders tend to speak less bluntly, but actions speak louder than words and China clearly has no intention of leaving Iran. It understands that becoming more involved in the Iranian economy, not less, is where the huge geopolitical gains are to be found. As we learned from a recent fascinating Bloomberg article, Iran’s Door to the West Is Slamming Shut, and That Leaves China:

To develop its $430 billion economy, Iran is being forced to rely on political allies in the east.

Trade with China has more than doubled since 2006, to $28 billion. The biggest chunk of Iran’s oil exports go to China, about $11 billion a year at current prices…

China is “already the winner,’’ said Dina Esfandiary, a fellow at the Centre for Science and Security Studies at King’s College in London, and co-author of the forthcoming ‘Triple Axis: Iran’s Relations With Russia and China’.

“Iran has slowly abandoned the idea of being open to the West,’’ she said. “The Chinese have been in Iran for the past 30 years. They have the contacts, the guys on the ground, the links to the local banks.’’

And they’re more willing to defy U.S. pressure as Trump slaps sanctions back on…

Airbus Group SE’s contract for 100 jetliners, worth about $19 billion at list prices, was already held up amid financing problems, and Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said Tuesday that the export licensewill be revoked (Russian manufacturers could be the beneficiaries). Total SA has a contract to develop the South Pars gas field together with China National Petroleum Corp., but has signaledthat it would pull out if the U.S. re-imposes sanctions and it can’t win an exemption. In that event, Iran says, the Chinese partner would take over Total’s share…

The Chinese have some workarounds that Europeans lack. There are many more Chinese companies with zero exposure to the U.S. And, since many of the Chinese businesses working in Iran are state-run, it’s relatively easy to set up special-purpose vehicles for bypassing U.S. regulations. “All they have to do is create a subsidiary that’s separate from the original entity, and they’re good to go,” said Esfandiary.

Chinese businesses are also likely to be more flexible about how they’re paid, says Batmanghelidj, citing a transaction he’s aware of where the European company declined to be paid in bonds…

China — along with Russia — is America’s main strategic rival, with big geopolitical ambitions. Central to them is a plan to crisscross Eurasia with a web of transportation and infrastructure links. Persia was on the old Silk Road, and Iran is at the heart of President Xi Jinping’s plans for a new one.

Chinese companies are building or funding railway lines to the eastern city of Mashhad and the Gulf port of Bushehr, under deals signed in the past year worth more than $2.2 billion. India was supposed to be developing the strategic port of Chabahar on the Arabian Sea., but repeated delays have prompted Iranian officials to turn to China in the hope of speeding up construction.

Much of Trump’s base supported him because they wanted the U.S. to focus on domestic issues as opposed to foreign adventurism. Ironically, he’s doing the exact opposite. Rather than tackling the country’s dilapidated infrastructure, continued theft by finance criminals and a completely rancid healthcare system, the national dialogue is now dominated by an embassy move to Jerusalem and heightened confrontation with Iran. I’m not sure what this is, but it’s certainly not “America First.”

Many Trump supporters like to say he’s playing “3D chess,” but in the case of Iran he isn’t playing chess at all — he’s playing checkers. His infatuation with Israel and Saudi Arabia, coupled with a deep-seated disdain for Iran is blinding him, and opening up a historic opportunity for China and Russia to make major geopolitical gains. Europe’s trying to hang out on the fence and see who comes out on top, but the outcome of such a game should not be in doubt. The results will be crystal clear by 2025.

I’ve written several detailed posts on this topic in recent weeks. Here are a few:

Trump Pulls Out of Iran Deal – U.S. Determined to Become a Rogue State

Part 1: The Road to 2025 – Prepare for a Multi-Polar World
Part 2: The Road to 2025 – Russia and China Have Had Enough
Part 3: The Road to 2025 –USD Dominated Financial System Will Fall Apart
Part 4: The Road to 2025 – A Very Bright Future If We Demand It

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IntercoursetheEU MoreSun Mon, 05/14/2018 - 22:22 Permalink

This has to be the lamest fake 'material' ever to appear on this site; and that's REALLY saying something.


1. Inundate comments section with attitudes that can be used later to label ZH as Nazi friendly reader site

- and/or- 

2. Demonize the Jewish People in service of the Clinton-Obama-Brennan Islamist toadies


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Oldwood beemasters Tue, 05/15/2018 - 00:07 Permalink

Nobody thinks Israel is just going to surrender, and there is NO evidence that their compromise or accommodations would in any way advance peace or soften the pro Palestinian contingent. Those dying rushing the Israeli lines are NOT doing sdo to embrace the Israelis with warm hugs and tomes of tolerance. They are demanding death the Israelis and are seemingly simultaneously shocked at being shot for their efforts.

Trump is deliberately inflaming the decades old conflict as a means to its end. If Iranian and Syrian support for the Palestinians ends, peace will be their only option.

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Oldwood Fuelling Chaos Tue, 05/15/2018 - 01:08 Permalink

Okay genius, then WHAT IS THE ANSWER?

Israel has nukes. They're not going to surrender. If America isolates or abandons them, they will not hesitate to take preemptive action against perceived threats.

This shit has been going on forever and is NOT getting better. Is the answer to allow Iran to pursue nukes openly? Do you REALLY think Israel will accept that? 

You might want isolationism, or the demise of Israel, but a nuclear war pretty much makes isolationism irrelevant.

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Victor999 Oldwood Tue, 05/15/2018 - 01:47 Permalink

The 'solution' is to isolate Israel and make it clear to them that one Israel nuke will surely result in a rain of nukes all over Israel, completely wiping the entity off the face of the earth.  America could well deliver this message but they won't.  Russia could deliver that message, but they won't either.  Why?  Because the Jews all over the world would, just as they did with Germany in the 30s, declare economic war on them - and believe me, the Jews have all the power when it comes to monetary and financial power and will be more than willing to use that to protect Israel.


So the other 'solution' is to change the world monetary system to a sovereign money system where the state is responsible for the creation of money, not the banks.  And to agree internationally to forgive all sovereign debt, thus allowing those nations an opportunity to free themselves from debt and apply their newly-found monetary power to developing their economies.  This would rob the Jew of his greatest power in the world, and for the rest of us, gain real freedom.

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gdpetti HopefulCynical Tue, 05/15/2018 - 10:30 Permalink

yes and no.. 'Isreal' isn't the problem, as that colony of Rothschilds design is just a necessary tool to keep things riled up... no 'smart' Jew lives there.... can you think of any? visit? sure, why not? but live there?! Why hasn't Hollywood, NYC, London etc all moved there? Because it's full of their own 'tools' of control, nature's humanoid predatos... Psychopaths... nearly half the country, and I suppose a few Palestinians as well... as the psychos are everywhere, but they tend to act like 'moths to the flame' and congregate wherever the most prey is found... so the 'smart' ones send them there... or jail, if they can't maintain control of themselves... and make the smart ones look bad.

Not Israel, and not 'Jews' are the problem, but rather their kinfolk.. their 'tribe'... Satanists... all working hard for their masters... seeking to graduate... psychos don't graduate... they are merely tools, thus the reason the 'smart' Chosen People send them there with all the ignorant sheep they've previously led astray... no pain,  no gain here in Purgatory... a school in consciousness... all of life is an obstacle course... The Satanists are seeking to graduate... they are in training to 'be all they can be'... as 'evil' and manipulative as possible.. to secure all the profits/gains/assets/benefits possible in a winner takes all game of chess....

As for Isreal? That's a kill zone... best to leave it when Mother Nature swings on in... same with London, DC etc... kill zones, which the moths find very attractive... all that 'light'.

Hard to tell what Putin's heard or learned... Xi seems to be playing the game the same old way as found in The Art of War... on the political/economic front as ? can't think of his name... in germany.... who setup the state .. compare it with Italy, both late comers to the 'nation-state' creation party, as the kingdoms/empires were coming to an end in that old format and being replaced by the current one... which is now just called the western establishment... along with its 'deep state'... both are the OWO... being outed/exposed/suicided by its patrons setting up their NWO.... Jewish, Christians, Buddists, whatever.. just labels used to fool the herd... like that proverbial wolf in sheep's clothing.... there is a reason these analogies/proverbs exist through the rise and fall of civilizations... they are all that remains of them... the tech is lost, destroyed and covered up as the world turns inside out when Mother Nature does her thing... all that remains among the few people that survive are these stories... lessons of their past... which will be forgotten... but a good story can stand the test of time.

I don't think RUssia or CHina is prepared for this... and it's obvious that the entire Western OWO isn't.... 'out with the old, in with the new'.

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666D Chess Oldwood Tue, 05/15/2018 - 03:29 Permalink

I'm going to put out the rest of the Zero Hedge reader out of their misery of having to read your idiotic comments. Trump IS A PUPPET OF THE ROTHSCHILDS. All the attacks from the "deep state" are staged to fool imbeciles like you. Trump ties to the Rothschilds are in plain sight for everyone to see:…

Are you aware of the fact that Ivanka Trump was dating Nathaniel Rothschild the son of Jacob Rothschild? Google it up, I'm not asking you to believe me. 


Everything is summarized in this video by Jake Morphonios:

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r0mulus Fuelling Chaos Tue, 05/15/2018 - 01:42 Permalink

OK- trying to steer this back on topic...

How dare Russia and China for trying to punish the people of the West with cheap energy and goods? Don't they know that the Westerners would much rather be slowly whittled into nothingness by usurious central bank practices?

Oh- the people of the West are too busy consuming vacuous mass media to consider the source of these issues? Ok, guess they will just suffer bankster-induced downward "hedonic adjustment" until the wheels fall off the damn bus here in our brave new world.

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SoDamnMad r0mulus Tue, 05/15/2018 - 06:56 Permalink

The first sanctions in 2014 were a great boon to Russia.  Dairy products and fruits among other European products were restricted so Russia merely turned inward to develop supplies to replace those imports itself leaving European farmers screwed royally. If Russia had a financial system to feed small business loans they would have had a quantum leap to be self-sufficient. This will happen again with the new sanctions. With Yuan-Ruble swaps and a Swift replacement, Iran will do OK.

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RationalLuddite Oldwood Tue, 05/15/2018 - 01:29 Permalink

Trump is deliberately inflaming the decades old conflict as a means to its end.

So, "war is peace" then. You have finally become their mental slave by falling into the sociopath mindset/archetype. You're not one yet, but they are training you to be. Wake up and smell the Rationalizations before you become part of the script regurgitating  malware horde.

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Oldwood PeaceForWorld Tue, 05/15/2018 - 01:12 Permalink

Progressives say that every time a republican wins. Please don't tell me that Hillary, with the immense deep state criminality we see unfolding day after day, would be the same.

If Trump is the same as Hillary, then what the fuck has all the hell we've been living through since he won all about? We have NEVER seen as transparent attempt at a criminal coup in our history.

But you say they surely must be the same....

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AurorusBorealus IntercoursetheEU Mon, 05/14/2018 - 22:41 Permalink

Yes.  Zerohedge has become discredited as a serious website by the ravenous mob of anti-semites who sit on the site all day and spam the first page of the comments section on every post with endless anti-semitic rants that have nothing to do with the topic at hand.

The New Forum logic that keeps the first posts at the top of the thread has only contributed to this phenomenon.  Zerohedge has the appearance of a lunatic asylum, and this type of fanatic, delusion anti-semitic trolling now appears on every alternative English-language news website.  It does appear to be an orchestrated campaign, and it may be a CIA Mockingbird project, or the bizarre attempt of an Anglo political party (such as the Democrats in the U.S.) to discredit every alternative news source.

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beemasters Archive_file Mon, 05/14/2018 - 23:28 Permalink

Although I do see some anti-jews comments, I think they are targeted mainly towards the assholes in the world today. I have nothing against Jews, but I do have a strong opinion on assholes who steal lands, kill those who protest, calling them terrorists as a justification for the murders. Israel's problems are self-created and everyone should know.

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RationalLuddite beemasters Tue, 05/15/2018 - 01:40 Permalink

Zionism & Banksters are evil pathogens, yes, that more people need to be aware of. But the constant monocausal thread jacking is off putting,  rhetorically counterproductive and inhibits true learning from the comments here. Say it yes lads, do repeat the message.  But how about dialing down the limbic spasm template and project more persuasive emotional self control. It reflects badly also on the breadth of knowlege and true intellectual diversity if the other mass of ZH commenters. Otherwise you risk mirroring the very ZioBankster behaviors and thought patterns you so justifiably despise and want others to despise too.  

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sarz r0mulus Tue, 05/15/2018 - 04:04 Permalink

Judaism is not a religion. Except for the tiny righteous sliver Neturei Karta, Judaism is satanism disguised as religion. The blood sacrifice at the Gaza border to inaugurate the American embassy move is a distinct and deliberate part of Judaism. As is the blood of goyische children in matzo balls for high holidays. Most people, taking their own innocent selves as the model for understanding Jews, are bullied into silence by nonsense phrases such as 'blood libel'. Do look up Israel Shamir's classic article, "The Bloody Passovers of Dr Toaff."

Jews think that all it will take is a few thousand trolls from the Ministry of Strategic Affairs or from the major American Jewish organizations to set everything back to normal. Make sure they fail. Do your little bit to counter their evil acts and their lies. 

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lucitanian r0mulus Tue, 05/15/2018 - 07:11 Permalink

It has been a simple task to conflate anti-Zionism and anti-Israel with antisemitism, and the illogical confusion is a deliberate psychological propaganda plan by the political and economic power base of Zionism, which in of itself is no more nor less than an organized criminal syndicate with rules and philosophy comparable to the Mafia but with far greater sociopathic and megalomaniac ambitions.

I would not at all be surprised to find that 90% of the Jew hating comments (or Muslim hating ones) on this site originate from paid trolls in Tel Aviv, for the very specific purpose of devaluing critical debate.

Earlier in the comments here it was suggested that denuclearizing Israel would be an impossibility. Why?

More and more we are asked to abandon logic, be it about the Holocaust, or Iran's intentions, or 9-11, and reality is blurred by Hollywood propaganda or wild claims based on ignorant generalizations. Wouldn't people be better off "feeling" a little less and applying logic a little more in this era of mass disinformation and propaganda?

The sad thing is that while access to questionable targeted information increases, the discernment and time available to check sources and develop deeper understanding, diminishes. This means most people land up reinforcing their ignorance and prejudices.

If you're interested, I wrote an article several years ago on the Zionist threat, and I still stand by the opinion that among the most to suffer from Zionism, not to diminish from the enormous injustices meted out to the Palestinians, are in fact the Jews themselves. All who suffer deserve our compassion.

The essay : (scroll down to it on this site to find)

Zionist Forestry, “Only by blood will we get the land”?


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MoreSun AurorusBorealus Mon, 05/14/2018 - 23:12 Permalink

The jew supremacists come out at the same time every night. Typing straight from the U.S. tax payer supported zionist computer pits of tel aviv, and their fact denying whining is always the same.

Bet you jew supremacists are all extremely happy that you slaughtered a bunch of poor Palestinians today, and your all saying "we had a good day" - It's sick, just really, really sick, and for you to defend it is beyond depraved. 

Oh and "Baron Von" comes out to play, oh that's a belly laugh, you actually mean "Jacob Abram Disraeli" or some other jew supremacist name. That disguise is dreadful. 

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MoreSun AurorusBorealus Mon, 05/14/2018 - 23:23 Permalink

And the jew supremacist spin doctors (edward bernaysians) come out to play. The jew supremacist lunatics have escaped from their satanic synagogue and are afflicting the living with their deader than dead propaganda.

Haven't you satisfied your blood lusts yet? Killing all those rock throwing poor Palestinians just wasn't enough. Now you have to beat us with your lying propaganda.

Your " we had a good day" just don't quite do it for you anymore. The jew supremacist blood lust is never quenched.

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Oldwood MoreSun Tue, 05/15/2018 - 00:22 Permalink

Trump said he would end the Iranian deal and move the embassy to Jerusalem... and he DID. All those filthy Jews that voted him into office, right?

Its not just anti-jew. Note that every anti-jew comment is pointed at TRUMP.

Trump denigration operates on EVERY front, seeking sympathizing allies on every perspective. Its trash Trump immersion. ZH has become another appendage of this, noting that few comments in support of Trump go without trashing. Only degenerates, deplorables, and now evidently Jews, support Trump.....even though we know Jews voted massively in favor of Hillary....the tricky devils.

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MoreSun Oldwood Tue, 05/15/2018 - 01:23 Permalink

Lets see, most his business was/is done with multiple jew lawyers & jewish banksters, he pushed jew carl ichan as his financial mentor, jew billionaire sheldon adelson kicked in big time, all his kids married jews, he went to aipac and bragged about all his jewish grandkids, he puts kushner on his main staff, he bombs Syria for israel twice, he moves the embassy, he pulls out of the iran deal for israel, The jew press gave him a billion dollars worth of free press- if they were truly against him they would not have acted as controlled opposition, they would have pummeled him. He hires Cohn, & Munchkin jew supremacist goldman boys, jew david friedman, & boris epshteyn were also appointed by trump. Jews lewis eisenberg, michael glassner were also specialy chosen by trump for his cabinet. The list goes on & on.

But that's enough for any legitimate person whom is not sure if trump is a israel firster- he IS.

Now, what he has not done:

1."No Wall" the biggest and loudest promise he made to the American People.

2. He promised to keep us out of anymore regime change engagements- Fail, he has done exactly the opposite.

3. He promised to bring back Christmas BIG TIME ! Not a Peep from him. The jews don't like Christmas- A Very, Very telling trump inaction.

4. He promised BIG TIME to DRAIN THE SWAMP, he has actually increased the size of it substantially.

5. And many, many other "Make America Great Again" promises that he has not yet scratched the surface on... 

He promised he wasn't your typical lying politician & that he would keep his promises.

Well he has kept all the promises to the jews, BUT he has not kept a single one for the American People.

So..., who do you think puts the bridle on our boy trump? 

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Oldwood MoreSun Tue, 05/15/2018 - 01:37 Permalink

Yes, it's pretty shocking that a NYC businessman would know of bunch of Jews, ESPECIALLY when we can all agree its damned hard to find a banker or financial guy of any merit who ISN'T a Jew!

Given Trumps environment and associations I would suggest he would be proclaimed an antisemitic if he DIDN'T nominate Jews. You see, there are some silly people out there who don't automatically discriminate against people because of their religion. They attempt to judge people by their actions and not by their race or religion. Now I'm not saying identity groups don't sometimes behave in some predetermined ways, but as a white guy living in a predominantly black area, things would be pretty tough if I refused to associate or do business with blacks.

But you just stay on point! Keep bashing them Jews. Maybe someday you can organize a mob to go out and do some social justice lynching and finally feel like a WINNER! I don't suppose you hate blacks too, as THAT could be a jack pot for you!

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MoreSun Oldwood Tue, 05/15/2018 - 02:27 Permalink

Yip you keep sipping the jew supremacist tea while saying "we had a good day". Once a jew supremacist always a jew supremacist- guess there is no turning back, so be it. 

"don't suppose you hate blacks too, as THAT could be a jack pot for you!" now that's a funny one. It's you jew supremacists that hate the blacks. Your ​so-called democratic israel is in the process of physically kicking out all their Black residents permanently, and you have the propaganda spinning depravity to throw out the Black card. Now that sure back fired on you didn't it.​​​​​​


Try reading: "Jews Selling Blacks" & "The Secret Relationship Between Blacks and Jews, Second Edition" 

Both about the dreadful terrorizing murderous treatment the jew supremacists heaped upon the Blacks.

Then try reading Professor Dr. Tony Martin (Black) book titled: "The Jewish Onslaught"


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PeaceForWorld Oldwood Tue, 05/15/2018 - 02:52 Permalink


I think that you do not understand some of former Trump supporters.

  • Many voted for Trump because he said that he would end the war, just like Obama did. Wars in Afghanistan and Syria were supposed to end. Some of his base supporters are disappointed with Trump's Interventions.
  • Yes Trump kept his promise about moving the embassy to Israel and ending the Iran Deal.
  • I personally preferred Trump to Hillary. I was a Bernie or Bust pledged member. I among million of other Bernie (a Jew) people hated Hillary. We had and I think that we still have "Hillary for Prison" groups. I still believe that Hillary would have been worse. The evil queen committed many crimes and we investigated them. I know all about her crimes. And I passed the message to everyone I knew. I was running one of the largest Bernie groups; I made sure Hillary bots would stay out of our groups by blocking them. I/ 3 or Berniecrats voted for Jill Stein (Another Jew), 1/3 for Trump, and the other 1/3 for Hillary. We helped Trump win. But we had hopes that Russia-Trump would get along. But his Deep State White house and f**in Democrats, made sure to stop Trump/Putin deal.
  • But it comes to a point that you are not blind anymore. You can see the obvious. Trump surrounded himself with some Obama/Bush area War Hawks. And the worst thing was that he allowed Jared Kushner lead "Middle East Peace". Jared a well-known loser Jew from a rich family even shared his bedroom with Bebe. 
  • The first Trump Trip to Saudi Arabia by making $350 Billion dollar and dancing with the swards, turning Arabs against Iran was one of the tipping points.  Basically Jared, Trump, MBS (Jewish ally), UAE and Israhel run the show in the world. Saudis are related with Israheli Jews. 
  • Trump doesn't care about Yemen and millions of people dying because of UK American and US weapons and weapons. He became MIC supporters. With Budget spending over 50% on Defense.
  • There are many issues that I really don't have the time to write them.  But please just consider "Why some of us are disappointed with Trump, not because of Hillary". Because of his hawkish circle (recycled from Bush) continuing Bush/Obama wars. 
  • Trump even talked against Saudi Arabia and 9/11 attacks. He called them evil and we need to fight ISIS. But he changed his mind about ISIS by forgetting that it was Iran who fought against ISIS. Of course Russia and Iran both did.
  • So, it just doesn't make sense that he wants to take out one of the few countries (Iran) who fought against ISIS. Assad protects Christians and Iran is a good actor. Armenian-Iranian-American speaking here.
  • Also what happened to Afghanistan? We are still there.
  • And why didn’t Trump remove US from NATO????? He promise that and didn’t keep his promise.
  • So, it just doesn't make sense that he wants to take out one of the few countries (Iran) who faught agains ISIS. Assad protects Christians and Iran is a good actor. Armenian-Iranian-American speaking here.
  • Also what happened to Afghnistan? We are still there.

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sarz MoreSun Tue, 05/15/2018 - 04:59 Permalink

Thanks for holding the fort today, MoreSun, even the boldface seems okay. 

Here's a thought about Trump. There's a slim but real chance he actually thinks like us. Don't forget his role model was Roy Cohn, the much-maligned patriot and antisemite. Ivana mentioned to Vanity Fair that Trump's only bedside reading was the speeches of Hitler - the real one, the tragic figure, respected by Gandhi and JFK, the author of the economic miracle through his alternative to Jew debt, not the author of the fictional Holocaust.

If that's who Trump is, he's saving the world from the Jews, not by taking them head-on which would be impossible but by serving them two hundred percent and reducing whatever he touches to rubble. The Jerusalem caper is hugely backfiring. The Iran move threatens the whole Atlantic alliance. And in the recent battle between the Israelis and Syrians (not Iranis) over Golan, the Syrians, without the promised Russian S300 system, completely creamed the Israelis. (You can find a truthful account at the Saker's website. The MSM is not allowed to reveal the turd world status of the Israeli military. There goes the mystique.) 

If that's who Trump really is, it's still part of the game for us to fight the man he seems to be. 

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AurorusBorealus MoreSun Tue, 05/15/2018 - 00:48 Permalink

Listen to me, I told you the last time that you posted this exact same comment about Tel Aviv trolls, that I live in central South America, and there is not a Jew within 120 KM of my house.  I told you that before, but I now know that I am wasting my time replying to you, because you are bot.  You posted the exact same reply to me that last time I replied to your comment... the exact same reply... word for word.  Thank you for confirming my hypothesis.

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