FBI Spying On Trump Started In London, Earlier Than Thought, New Texts Implicate Obama White House

A new report from John Solomon of The Hill ties together several loose threads floating around over the genesis of the FBI/DOJ espionage operation against the Trump campaign, who was involved in the "setup" of campaign aides, and how text messages between FBI employees suggest that the Obama White House was not only aware of the operation - but possibly directing it.

Not only is the timeline moved up from the summer of 2016 to spring, Solomon provides clarification on early contacts between the players involved in  DOJ/FBI sting and Trump campaign aides. 

The bridge to the Russia investigation wasn’t erected in Moscow during the summer of the 2016 election.

It originated earlier, 1,700 miles away in London, where foreign figures contacted Trump campaign advisers and provided the FBI with hearsay allegations of Trump-Russia collusion, bureau documents and interviews of government insiders reveal. These contacts in spring 2016 — some from trusted intelligence sources, others from Hillary Clinton supporters — occurred well before FBI headquarters authorized an official counterintelligence investigation on July 31, 2016.

The new timeline makes one wonder: Did the FBI follow its rules governing informants? -The Hill

The revelation of purposeful contact initiated by alleged confidential human sources prior to any FBI investigation is troublesome,” Rep. Mark Meadows (R-N.C.), an ally of President Trump and chairman of a House subcommittee that’s taking an increasingly aggressive oversight role in the scandal, told me. “This new information begs the questions: Who were the informants working for, who were they reporting to and why has the [Department of Justice] and FBI gone to such great lengths to hide these contacts?

Retired assistant FBI director for intelligence Kevin Brock also has questions. Brock supervised an agency update to their longstanding bureau rules governing the use of sources while working under then-director Robert Mueller. These rules prohibit the FBI from directing a human source to perform espionage on an American until a formal investigation has been opened - paperwork and all. 

Brock sees oddities in how the Russia case began. “These types of investigations aren’t normally run by assistant directors and deputy directors at headquarters,” he told me. “All that happens normally in a field office, but that isn’t the case here and so it becomes a red flag. Congress would have legitimate oversight interests in the conditions and timing of the targeting of a confidential human source against a U.S. person.” -The Hill

The Text Messages

A series of text messages recovered by DOJ Inspector General Michael Horowitz between FBI lawyer Lisa Page and special agent Peter Strzok reveal political pressure around the same time as the Trump-Russia probe officially opened. 

We’re not going to withstand the pressure soon,” Page texted Strzok on Aug. 3, 2016 - days after Strzok returned from London and opened the official Trump-Russia investigation. At the time, as John Solomon of The Hill notes, "they were dealing with simultaneous challenges: the wrap-up of the Hillary Clinton email scandal and the start of the Russia-Trump probe."

The texts reveal that Strzok and Page were also concerned about someone within the DOJ leaking details of their investigation (“This is MUCH more tasty for one of those DOJ aholes to leak,” Strzok texted Page), as well as concerns that the White House was spearheading the investigation

Went well, best we could have expected,” Strzok texted Page after an Aug. 5, 2016, meeting. “Other than Liz quote ‘the White House is running this.’ ” Page then texted to assure Strzok of a paper trail showing the FBI in charge: “We got emails that say otherwise.

The next day, Strzok and Page went into further detail about President Obama. “So maybe not the best national security president, but a genuinely good and decent human being,” Page texted Strzok, to which he replied: “Yeah, I like him. Just not a fan of the weakness globally. Was thinking about what the administration will be willing to do re Russia.”

What ever did Strzok mean about Obama being weak?


Perhaps so that the agency's targeting of Trump associates wouldn't occur on U.S. soil, the very beginnings of "Operation Crossfire Hurricane"  - the code name given to the early official Trump-Russia investigation, all have ties to London

The ties are so strong that some have begun to accuse the UK of colluding with the Obama administration and Clinton campaign to influence the 2016 US election

According to documents and government interviews, one of the FBI’s most senior counterintelligence agents visited London the first week of May 2016. Congress never got the FBI to explain that trip — but, soon after it, one of the most consequential moments of the scandal occurred: On May 10, Australian diplomat Alexander Downer met in a London bar with Trump adviser George Papadopoulos, who boasted of knowing that Russia would release dirt on Clinton.

That contact was not immediately reported to U.S. intelligence.

By early June, a second overture to a Trump campaign adviser occurred in London. In a “Dear Carter” email, a Cambridge University graduate student invited Trump campaign adviser Carter Page to attend a popular July security conference in London.

While Page would not reveal the name of the graduate student, he did say that the student studied under Stefan Halper - the Cambridge professor and longtime FBI / CIA asset who was sent in to perform espionage on the Trump campaign.

Halper, according to Page, asked to be introduced to high-ranking Trump campaign official Sam Clovis. 

 On July 16, 2016, Carter Page relayed the overture to Clovis: “Professor Stef Halper spends part of the year in Virginia where he has a home in Falls Church; he's a big fan of yours having followed you on CNN and offered a range of possibilities regarding how he and the University might be able to help.”

Halper, a month later, emailed Clovis, referencing his contacts with Carter Page. “May I suggest we set a time to meet when you are next in Washington?” Halper invited on Aug. 29, 2016.

There are more links to London which strengthen the case for a setup. One week before Carter Page left for London, former MI6 agent Christopher Steele - recently hired by opposition research firm Fusion GPS, made contact with the FBI for an unknown purpose. Weeks later, Steele began working with the agency, while his infamous "Steele Dossier" - full of wild, salacious and largely unverified claims, would become a key document in the application for a FISA warrant to spy on Page. 

What's more, the London meeting between Papadopoulos and Alexander Downer was reported to the FBI just weeks after the July 23, 2016 release of Hillary Clinton's emails by WikiLeaks. 

Downer notably arranged a $25 million grant to the Clinton foundation a decade ago to help fight AIDS. This was part of an overall $88 million funneled from Australian taxpayers to the charity. 

As Solomon of The Hill notes, "This timeline doesn’t prove wrongdoing; these contacts could have occurred organically, or been directed legally through intelligence channels. Yet, congressional investigators and FBI insiders tell me, they raise questions about when the investigation officially started and how."



OneStinkyDinky IridiumRebel Sat, 06/02/2018 - 12:18 Permalink

Lol so lemme get this straight ... drumpf wants y’all to believe a conspiracy theory that the FBI spied on his campaign for dirt to ruin him in the election, and then the FBI just dropped it and never used said dirt during said campaign to ruin him in said election? Why wouldn’t they have leaked it? They were just doing it for him?


Do y’all hear yourselves? Don’t act like Russian agents and you want come in the crosshairs of the feds, simple. 


He thinks you’re all clueless idiots 


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macholatte pc_babe Sat, 06/02/2018 - 12:48 Permalink


All roads lead to Obama and Soros and their donors.


Who do we know has been compromised by something in their closet? Are they pedophiles?
Suspect #1:    Jeff Sessions
Suspect #2:    Trey Gowdy


Who do we know has long been a double agent?
1.    Mucous McCain
2.    Lindsey Graham
3.    Paul Ryan
4.    Mitch McConnell
5.    Reince Priebus
6.    Christopher Wrey

many more ??


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Tarzan Adolfsteinbergovitch Sun, 06/03/2018 - 08:36 Permalink

Obama's involvement is as plain as day, there is no mistake, the cabal that was assembled could not have done what was done without the involvement of the White House.

There is no way the intelligence agencies set all these assets in motion, without the executive branch's knowledge, worse, without their express direction.

They dug this hole convinced they would succeed, convinced all this would never see the light of day, convinced Hillary would win and cover their tracks. 

It's the answer to the question, how could they have been so brazen, so reckless?  They thought they were invinsible, that all the lose ends would be tied, that there would never again be a rogue President.

So now that they've been caught, and the death of the Press is laid bare for all to see, as they desperately tell the world not to believe their eye's, to ignore the wizard behind the curtain, as they cling to the ropes of their sinking ship!


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nmewn BeansMcGreens Sat, 06/02/2018 - 19:01 Permalink

When there is no evidence (outside of what has been planted/manufactured by the Obama administration & Hillary political hacks) it stands to reason nothing would ever be found regarding any Trump-Russia collusion. 

So at this point, we should begin the process of choosing who will have the honor of being on the firing squads ;-)

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GreatUncle nmewn Sat, 06/02/2018 - 21:05 Permalink

the code name given to the early official Trump-Russia investigation, all have ties to London.

Does not surprise me, this was all done to distract attention from the Clinton server problem.

Those 2 FBI agents need pulling and waterboarding because it looks like the both of them were running this whole Trump-russia collusion narrative just like Russian spies.


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nmewn Hulk Sun, 06/03/2018 - 08:32 Permalink

It will be a busy few days and this is the way we think it went down.

Admiral Mike Rogers finds out about improper access to raw FISA data by FBI "contractors" on March 9 2016. Sometime in April he orders a full audit done on who is doing it and on who it's being done to. April 18 2016 Rogers orders FBI/DoJ contractor access shutdown. 

Then a text from Lisa Page to Peter Strzok on March 9 2016 at 23:03:25 “But need to try to fix a HUGE who f-up”.

The FBI/DoJ found out they are busted on the same day that Rogers found out about the improper access to the raw FISA data (March 9 2016) so, someone in the NSA (or Clapper himself, he's the DNI, the middleman) was in collusion with the FBI/DoJ's "counter-intel" program because he didn't shut it down until after the audit came back, meaning, there was no way for FBI/DoJ to know until it was shutdown unless there was an informer within the NSA (or Clapper as pivot man) before April 18 2016 when Rogers cut them off. 

April 18 2016 is also the day the DNC said it was "hacked". 

So the long and short of it is, Trump became the presumptive nominee in May 2016 and they were spying on him and his associates well BEFORE what they are officially saying is the timeline. 

They are so fucked they don't even realize how completely fucked they are ;-)

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ConanTheContrarian1 Keffus Sat, 06/02/2018 - 14:19 Permalink

I contributed to Trump, got a piece of paper to prove it. Let's keep in mind, tho, that Trump is NOT a one-man show. People with resources and clout are behind him. He may be the point of the spear for the Deeper State, or for a faction of the Deep State that is staging a coup against the existing dominant faction. I still hope he's a patriot, and some signs are promising, but it could be that he simply has part of the intelligence network protecting him from revelations.

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JRobby ConanTheContrarian1 Sat, 06/02/2018 - 14:46 Permalink

When are the trials and sentencing?

(Laugh Track Deafening !!!!!!!!)

We live in a lawless police state. The Deep State controls a vast section of that police state.

Therefore, if The Republic of The United States of America is to be restored, a military action to arrest the enemies is required followed by tribunals. That might be some real fireworks. The rest is just "Media Wars" for now. Enjoy.

There is control of $$$Trillions$$$ at stake. Don't forget to pay "your taxes".

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Billy the Poet JRobby Sat, 06/02/2018 - 15:35 Permalink

Don’t act like Russian agents


Come on, Stinky. You know as well as I do that it was Hillary who paid the Kremlin to meddle in the election. Facts are facts.


How Ex-Spy Christopher Steele Compiled His Explosive Trump-Russia Dossier

Source A—to use the careful nomenclature of his dossier—was “a senior Russian Foreign Ministry figure.” Source B was “a former top level intelligence officer still active in the Kremlin.”


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PrayingMantis Keffus Sat, 06/02/2018 - 14:49 Permalink


   ... “ ... with all the cloak and dagger stuff they would have found SOMETHING. ... “ ... 

     ... it’s known as “turning a blind eye” ...

    ... Trump’s well publicized ownership of Resorts International (formerly Mary Carter Paint Company) and its ties to organized crime, and known as the money-laundering arm of CIA/Mossad/Mafia(Meyer Lansky)/and other nefarious characters ... and its part-ownership by Rothschild and his talmudic-Zionist ass-kissers would open some insights to Trump’s “dealings” (if the “authorities” would only “look”) ... but because Trump was anointed by Rothschild to run, the Queen of Arkancide and her Kenyan Obumboclot wouldn’t dare piss off their benefactor Lynn Rothschild ...

   ... Trump’s well-publicized Rothschild bailout of his bankruptcy, through Rothschild’s operative, Wilbur L. Ross Jr. (without a doubt, in exchange for a Secretary of Commerce position) to make sure Rothschild’s wishes are followed when it comes to US foreign policies and may involve lots of Rothschild and Rockefeller-owned oil and banksters companies ... 

   ... Trump’s bankruptcy proposal was accepted by the banksters, (via Ross’ strong-arm tactics), which incidentally, these banksters group is headed by Ross ... the Wall Street banksters’ secret society Kappa Beta Phi, who controls the US financial swamp ... >>> http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/02/i-crashed-a-wall-street-secret-society.html ...

   ... all these, on the surface tend to get fogged up due to “manipulations” ... but it would appear nothing would be accomplished unless they stop “turning a blind eye” ...

   ... “ ... How Rothschild Inc. Saved Donald Trump ... “ ... >>> https://philosophyofmetrics.com/how-rothschild-inc-saved-donald-trump-freepom/  ...

   ... “ ... In 1987 Donald Trump purchased his first casino interests when he acquired 93% of the shares in Resorts International.  Resorts International has a sordid history which began in the early 1950’s when it evolved from a CIA and Mossad front company which had been established for the purpose of money laundering the profits from drug trafficking, gambling, and other illegal activities. ... ... On October 30, 1978, The Spotlight newspaper reported that the principle [sic, edit principal] investors of Resorts International were Meyer Lansky, Tibor Rosenbaum, William Mellon Hitchcock, David Rockefeller, and one Baron Edmond de Rothschild. ... “ ... 

   ... “ ... Who Towers Behind Trump ? ... “... http://americanfreepress.net/who-towers-behind-trump/?print=print ... 

    ... “ ... What Trump doesn’t tell his readers is what the late Andrew St. George reported in The Spotlight on October 30, 1978 (and in the previous September 25, 1978, issue): Resorts International was established and controlled by front men for the Rockefeller and Rothschild families and their “enforcers” in the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and its allied intelligence agency, Israel’s Mossad. ... “ ... 


                                   ..... the best part of waking up is opening your eyes.....  


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Hmmm... PrayingMantis Sat, 06/02/2018 - 18:17 Permalink

  Regarding:  "..... the best part of waking up is opening      your eyes ..."  

Thank you so much for all of that info.  I've been researching stuff regarding Trump.  I'm very interested in him now.  I'm definitely curious now.  I'm also anxious to read his book, Art Of The Deal.  Have you ever read that book?  It's a future "must" for me.  Ive got o read it.  Thanks again for the text!  {smile}  Pam&Punky

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PrayingMantis Hmmm... Sun, 06/03/2018 - 19:51 Permalink


     @Hmmm ...

    ... you’re welcome .... and don’t let the bedbugs bother you ... you might find a few posters that would start their “debate” with an “argumentum ad hominem” ...  these are the ones with earthworm mentalities ... sorry to insult earthworms ;) ...

    ... try to ignore them ... they’re only employing “psychological projection” ... it’s a ... “defense mechanism people subconsciously employ in order to cope with difficult feelings or emotions and involves projecting undesirable feelings or emotions onto someone else, rather than admitting to or dealing with the unwanted feelings.” ...

   ... the majority of ZH posters here are decent and respectful ... I’ve been here long enough, I guess, to figure out those posters who would try to educate other posters on things that are somehow “hidden” in plain sight or an excellent analysis by a writer which would make sense if true facts were presented ... 

... I know from your recent postings, being new here, you mean well .... just get past the earthworms .... ;) 



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PrayingMantis SRV Sat, 06/02/2018 - 20:19 Permalink


   ... that’s true ... @srv ... can’t fix stupid ... and before you declare Trump as god emperor of the US for Chapter 11 “PROTECTION”, if you read my post again, he offered the banksters a bankruptcy proposal to bail him out ... that means, the bankruptcy proposal (for his companies because he owns his companies as a major stockholder) was accepted by the banksters of which Rothschild Inc. through Wilbur L. Ross Jr., acted as a guarantor ... reports say that the banksters wouldn’t bail him out initially, but Rothschild intervened ...

    ... the point of the matter of my post is neither partisan nor Trump-hating ... only to refute the contention that Trump is “clean” and without blemish that the DOJ, FBI etc., couldn’t find anything on him ... he is just as corrupt as the others, running a money-laundering, drug-running CIA/Mossad/Mafia-backed Resorts International ... perhaps, if you take off the blinders, you might be able to get a glimpse of a “lesser-evil”?, perhaps? ... if you compare him to the rest of the other Rothschild puppets since the murder of JFK for his executive order 11110 to shut down the Rothschild-owned US Federal Reserve ... 

   ... IMO, this is all kabuki theatre ... you believe what you believe, that’s your prerogative ... 


... nevertheless, here’s a detailed analysis of Trump’s multiple “bankruptcies” you claim a LW lie ... and this is fact checked from the Law Dictionary (and not from @SRV’s dictionary) ... and, who knows, you might still learn something and “stupid” can still be fixed ...


... “ ... How is Donald Trump Able to File for Bankruptcy So Many Times?

Written by James Hirby and Fact Checked by The Law Dictionary Staff  

People might ask "How is Donald Trump able to file for bankruptcy so many times?" The answer is "He didn't." Trump himself has never filed for bankruptcy. His corporations have filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy four times.

By filing for Chapter 11 bankruptcy, the corporation is allowed to continue running while restructuring and reducing its debt. By allowing the business to continue, employees still have their jobs and the business is still making money. Corporate debts still need to be repaid but they may be reduced. The corporation must develop a repayment plan and corporate budget. Both must be approved by the creditors and by the bankruptcy court.

A corporation is a separate legal entity from its shareholders, other owners, board of directors, and CEO. Since it is a separate entity, the corporation files bankruptcy under its own name. In Chapter 11 bankruptcies, the owners’ personal assets are not at risk. The owners’ credit history remains intact.

In 1991, Trump's Taj Mahal located in Atlantic City was in debt for billions of dollars. As a result, Trump's corporation filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy. The Bankruptcy court allowed Trump to reorganize his corporate debts and allowed the casino to keep operating. Trump did surrender half of his ownership interests in the Taj Mahal. He chose to sell his yacht and airplane to help make loan payments.

In 1992, Trump filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy on his Trump Plaza Hotel in Atlantic City. At this time, Trump owed $550 million on the Trump Plaza Hotel. As part of the restructuring, Trump gave Citibank a 49% interest in the hotel. He was given a lenient repayment plan. Trump was able to stay on as CEO but he had to give up his salary.

Trump Hotels and Casino Resorts filed for bankruptcy in 2004. The corporation had $1.8 billion dollars of debt. Trump reduced his share in the company to 25% thereby surrendering his control of the corporation. The corporation received lower interest rates and another loan to upgrade the properties.

In 2009, Trump Entertainment Resorts filed bankruptcy after missing a large bond interest payment. Trump was not able to agree with his board of directors on a repayment plan so he resigned as chairman of the board and retained only a 10% ownership interest in the corporation.   ... “ ...

       .... source: ... >>> https://thelawdictionary.org/article/how-is-donald-trump-able-to-file-for-bankruptcy-so-many-times/ ...


                               .... the best part of waking up is opening your eyes ...


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