Democratic Congressman: "Looks Like Zuckerberg Lied To Congress"

Responding to a report in the New York Times which revealed Facebook gave at least 60 major device manufacturers unprecedented access to user data, Democratic Congressman David Cicilline (RI) tweeted on Sunday: "Sure looks like Zuckerberg lied to Congress about whether users have “complete control” over who sees our data on Facebook," adding "This needs to be investigated and the people responsible need to be held accountable."

The Times reported Sunday evening that Facebook gave at least 60 major device manufacturers access to user data over the last decade - including Apple, Amazon, BlackBerry, Microsoft and Samsung - as part of a data-sharing partnership program which allowed the companies to integrate various features such as messaging and "like" buttons into their products.

The agreement has allowed manufacturers to access information on relationship status, calendar events, political affiliations and religion, among other things. An Apple spokesman, for example, said that the company relied on private access to Facebook data to allow users to post on the social network without opening the Facebook app, among other things.

Even more disturbing, the manufacturers were able to access the data of users' friends without their explicit consent, despite Facebook declaring they would not let outside companies access user data. The catch? The NYT explains.

Facebook’s view that the device makers are not outsiders lets the partners go even further, The Times found: They can obtain data about a user’s Facebook friends, even those who have denied Facebook permission to share information with any third parties.

In interviews, several former Facebook software engineers and security experts said they were surprised at the ability to override sharing restrictions. -NYT

It’s like having door locks installed, only to find out that the locksmith also gave keys to all of his friends so they can come in and rifle through your stuff without having to ask you for permission,” said Ashkan Soltani, a research and privacy consultant and former chief technologist for the Federal Trade Commission (FTC).

The Times even performed a test to verify their claims: 

To test one partner’s access to Facebook’s private data channels, The Times used a reporter’s Facebook account — with about 550 friends — and a 2013 BlackBerry device, monitoring what data the device requested and received. (More recent BlackBerry devices, which run Google’s Android operating system, do not use the same private channels, BlackBerry officials said.)

Immediately after the reporter connected the device to his Facebook account, it requested some of his profile data, including user ID, name, picture, “about” information, location, email and cellphone number. The device then retrieved the reporter’s private messages and the responses to them, along with the name and user ID of each person with whom he was communicating.

The data flowed to a BlackBerry app known as the Hub, which was designed to let BlackBerry users view all of their messages and social media accounts in one place.

The Hub also requested — and received — data that Facebook’s policy appears to prohibit. Since 2015, Facebook has said that apps can request only the names of friends using the same app. But the BlackBerry app had access to all of the reporter’s Facebook friends and, for most of them, returned information such as user ID, birthday, work and education history and whether they were currently online.

The BlackBerry device was also able to retrieve identifying information for nearly 295,000 Facebook users. Most of them were second-degree Facebook friends of the reporter, or friends of friends.

In all, Facebook empowers BlackBerry devices to access more than 50 types of information about users and their friends, The Times found. -NYT

And as we noted early Monday, despite winding down the partnerships in April - including the posting capabilities used by Apple, Facebook has defended the data-sharing agreements, saying they comply with the company's privacy policies and a 2011 consent decree issued by the FTC. Facebook officials say they don't know of any cases where user information has been misused. 

These partnerships work very differently from the way in which app developers use our platform,” said Ime Archibong, a Facebook vice president. Unlike developers that provide games and services to Facebook users, the device partners can use Facebook data only to provide versions of “the Facebook experience,” the officials said.

“These contracts and partnerships are entirely consistent with Facebook’s F.T.C. consent decree,” said Archibong.

Former FTC official Jessica Rich, however, disagreed with that assessment.

“Under Facebook’s interpretation, the exception swallows the rule,” said Ms. Rich, now employed by the Consumers Union. “They could argue that any sharing of data with third parties is part of the Facebook experience. And this is not at all how the public interpreted their 2014 announcement that they would limit third-party app access to friend data.”

And because Facebook does not consider the device makers to be outsidersthe data sharing partnerships go even furtherThe Times discovered, which is what allows the companies to access user data of a Facebook user's friends even if they've denied Facebook permission to share information with third parties

Apparently Facebook discussed the issue as early as 2012 and simply decided not to change the arrangements, despite the data-sharing agreements being flagged as a privacy issue. 

But the device partnerships provoked discussion even within Facebook as early as 2012, according to Sandy Parakilas, who at the time led third-party advertising and privacy compliance for Facebook’s platform.

This was flagged internally as a privacy issue,” said Parakilas, who left Facebook in 2012 and has emerged as a new voice against the company's data handling policies. “It is shocking that this practice may still continue six years later, and it appears to contradict Facebook’s testimony to Congress that all friend permissions were disabled.

As for the various answers given by the device manufacturers (via The Times)

  • Samsung declined to respond to questions about whether it had any data-sharing partnerships with Facebook. Amazon also declined to respond to questions.
  • Usher Lieberman, a BlackBerry spokesman, said in a statement that the company used Facebook data only to give its own customers access to their Facebook networks and messages. Mr. Lieberman said that the company “did not collect or mine the Facebook data of our customers,” adding that “BlackBerry has always been in the business of protecting, not monetizing, customer data.”
  • Microsoft entered a partnership with Facebook in 2008 that allowed Microsoft-powered devices to do things like add contacts and friends and receive notifications, according to a spokesman. He added that the data was stored locally on the phone and was not synced to Microsoft’s servers.
  • Facebook acknowledged that some partners did store users’ data — including friends’ data — on their own servers. A Facebook official said that regardless of where the data was kept, it was governed by strict agreements between the companies.

On Monday, Facebook pushed back against the Times, claiming that the data shared with manufacturers was never abused. 

“These partners signed agreements that prevented people’s Facebook information from being used for any other purpose than to recreate Facebook-like experiences,” wrote Ime Archibong, Facebook’s vice president of product partnerships 

“Contrary to claims by the New York Times, friends’ information, like photos, was only accessible on devices when people made a decision to share their information with those friends.”

Comments

Cognitive Dissonance NugginFuts Mon, 06/04/2018 - 14:49 Permalink

Zuck says what he's told to say. He has very little idea what really goes on under the covers. He was 'prepped' for his Congressional testimony by his handlers.

Anyone who thinks this guy is the mastermind of Facebook has spent too much time on Facebook. He's a puppet who is managed and handled...and paid handsomely for the privilege of being the face of the monster.

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nmewn IridiumRebel Mon, 06/04/2018 - 17:56 Permalink

Maybe I've just become hyper-cynical with progs and their machinations but...FarceBook (ie Zuckerbooger) was the one saying Russians were using it's platform to influence the 2016 election. What if, what FarceBook is "saying" were Russian accounts were not really Russian accounts but accounts FarceBook manufactured? 

I find it hard to believe anyone who ever supported Obama/Hillary without honest-to-God, unimpeachable, verifiable evidence. 

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Ms No Buckaroo Banzai Mon, 06/04/2018 - 16:05 Permalink

Speaking of which, watch out for Indo_Expat.  He is fond of death threats, threatening to dox and dangles links. I have a bad feeling about this mofo, always have.  This isn't his first round here.

"Don't delude yourself that you are completely anonymous and cannot be tracked down given time and effort... you will learn the real life consequences for insanely engaging an entity you know nothing about... Awesomely stupid and dead... you will one day gag on that "meh" labia lapping cunt when you come to believe the real world is the same as digital...

Cerebral yeast infection cunt... In Alaska my Tlinget name is... or Satan in English..  I reserve any hatred for women specifically for mindless American cunts like yourself... we can find anyone we are looking for....

Yadda Yadda, you get the idea.  

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Hoffman Lenz Ms No Mon, 06/04/2018 - 17:13 Permalink

Dear Ms No,

If you haven't heard of Op Talpiot, then I fear your investigations have not gone far enough. All of us here at ZH, and anyone with a dissenting voice, have already been caught; it is just a matter of time. I wish it were different. But the awakening is happening too slowly. I have some hope for Gen X (or is it Y or Z; labels are designated by our masters, not us, so do not matter), they seem to reject the programming but they don't understanding why. There are far too many entranced by tech, and they are not taught history.

Anyway, my computer is compromised, as are they all, but good luck. I enjoy your input.

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Ms No Hoffman Lenz Mon, 06/04/2018 - 18:33 Permalink

I agree.  But having an agency come for you is less worrisome than an individual because then we die together....lol.  Maybe not physically but around the same time anyway.

Actually I am not that worried about death, or else I never would have been the nail that stood up for decades. 

What really bothered me about this one was I could feel his intent and his demonic nature, before he spelled it out.  This has gone on a long time (years off and on).  Its a weird thing I have that I can tell these things.  Once I knew who it was I was good.  I also just dont want him personally to get Hedgers IP addresses.

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MK ULTRA Alpha Ms No Mon, 06/04/2018 - 19:08 Permalink

Indo had a web site he was using to be an Alex Jones,(previous id had a url to a site in Indonesia, I suspect he lost that ZH ID because of his attacks.) when I read the site, from his bio, he fled the US because the police had placed him in lock up. I suspect it was mental lock up because it was California. He's in rebellion against Americans, not the right wing military industrial complex, he hates Americans because they will not bow down to him just because he was in the marines.

A photo of him on the beach showed a man in his 40's with a bald head who looked bitter. I suspect because of what he wrote about fleeing the US, by leaving behind his BMW, (bragging rights?) and a whole house full of furniture, household and clothes, and fled, panic fled, the way he explained, to Indonesia.

He has lived the persona of being this tough marine who's better than we are all of his life. It only proves his lower socioeconomic class character and manners.

He is deeply embedded in Islam in Indonesia and we're bad and he's good. He will not debate, he must bring it to a personal level to bring you down to his level. Lower than dog shit.

The best approach is to ignore him and he doesn't have the ability to find your location.

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Ms No MK ULTRA Alpha Mon, 06/04/2018 - 19:17 Permalink

Thanks MK.  This is him.  Can't say I entirely disagree with him but something is off about all of it.  He does have an impressive mastery of the English language,  Ill give him that.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EYEyauZDbD0

Edit, not that in the vid he doesnt but while in here.  He was exceptionally fluent in snarky psycho asshole when he wanted to be, which wouldve almost been endearing if he wasn't evil.

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MK ULTRA Alpha Ms No Mon, 06/04/2018 - 19:46 Permalink

I doubt he was an eyewitness to the Bali bombing. I was in Bali right before the bombing. Bali is an island which is not the main island of Java. He's on Java, and would have had to travel to Bali.

This guy isn't stable and has a high level of delusion. In this world when we deal with people, we must always remember the power of the television age on the mind of man. A life time of television causes people to live in a delusion, a fantasy.

Objective reality is replaced with a subjective opinion based world instead of a fact based world. It's the same with journalism, objective reporting has been replaced by opinion journalism.

I lived in Japan for a while, I knew an American that had lived in Japan much longer and was a successful businessman. We had these talks about the Americans who came to Japan. He taught me something very important. Americans are natural born liars. They are not to be trusted.

It's as if he was saying the Americans have no honor. I would say, from what I've seen, this nation doesn't seem to be a nation based on honor.

Think about it, I was able to speak and function in Japan as a business consultant, but he had spent a life time in Japan, a completely different culture. He was able to see both cultures and compare and contrast.

After a few years in Japan, I would always say to myself, I believe every American should be forced to live in Japan for a year, maybe some two, but I believed it would correct the inferior low life character and manner of the dishonorable Americans. In other words, there is more bad than good here and at this point in time, I don't believe anything can save this country, it's culture and values. It's over.

The Japanese make the Americans look like savages.

 

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Ms No MK ULTRA Alpha Mon, 06/04/2018 - 20:27 Permalink

I couldn't agree more.  I spent time in Japan and prior worked with international students, where I realized their unique nature.  I have a soft spot for them and learned a great deal from them.  The last true culture of honor...  Another thing I learned with students is that the most psychopathic among the nations, both then and now, were SA and Israel.  All three still seem to hold those positions.

I still felt the nature of the beast and the intent.  I described him before he revealed himself.  I couldn't stand it.  It was like a demon in the shadows. So much better now.  Plus maybe get some cred back from posting "Hector!", one too many times..lol.  His evil and demented nature is real.  I know this, acutely.  He did me a huge favor by verbally attacking finally and coming out of the shadows.  Cant ever go back.

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DoctorFix MK ULTRA Alpha Mon, 06/04/2018 - 20:49 Permalink

I lived and taught for over three years outside of Tokyo.  Americans were simply embarrassing to me.  We could do better but often times don't.  I'm reminded of an incident when a black school came to the country for some sort of event, escapes me exactly what..., and even the English language paper carried the thoughts of the locals that these so-called "ambassadors" were no good and going to cause trouble.  The expected "outrage" and indignation from the "reps" of this supposed institution of lernin then followed.  We were schooled and tongue-lashed and told we'd discover these upstanding examples of black american character would disprove their biases and ingrained racism.  So what happened when they arrived?  Seems some sticky fingered diplomats were arrested for shoplifting as soon as they could thus proving the locals point.  They couldn't keep up the act for even a few days.  I had to hang my head and heave a sigh of resignation.  Stupid shameful people.  Stupid shameful country.

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RumpleShitzkin MK ULTRA Alpha Mon, 06/04/2018 - 23:46 Permalink

And then you find yourself on a bullet train, sitting quietly...next to a heffe King Business Jap that is 64 yrs old reading what is essentially a pedo comic book. Then another...on a station bench, passed out in his business suit with vomit still steaming off of it at 6 am.

And an army of Japanese males too browbeat to fuck and save their culture.

I’m not saying there’s not plenty to admire there. There is, but let’s don’t get carried away with the Honorable Nip romanticism.

i dunno. 

I think the stink...the rot...truly is global.

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Indo_Expat MK ULTRA Alpha Sat, 06/09/2018 - 14:43 Permalink

Hey General! So you've been to Bali now too have ya? Right before the bombing eh? Bet you were on a secret mission there too to stop it, right? Fuck yeah, and... and... you failed because Mossad kidnapped ya and held you in a secret location on Lombok until it was all over and then... then... you escaped after killing your guards and stealing a 747 to fly out of Makassar! 

HA HA!  What more ludicrous tripe have you for us today?

So I wan't in Bali eh? Yeah, that's why my images are in the Getty archives, who I am a contract shooter for after they bought out Corbis, who I was also a contract shooter for at the time of the bombings. And all those Bali images with my copyright on them published world wide, gee how do we explain away that one now? 

You fucking schitzo freak, when you pull shit out of your ass like this you have to make sure there is no concrete, documented evidence to the contrary available in hundreds of mainline publications and above all in archives like Getty.

Oh, and there's also the little problem with The Jakarta Post, where I was the Senior Investigative Editor at the time and the lead investigator for the paper on the bombing, which puts me in Bali and at the scene. Oops, forgot about that didn't we?

https://web.archive.org/web/20100423015428/http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2003/01/03/bali-bombing-an-investigator039s-analysis.html

I was going to lay off you lying, moronic illiterate psycho but now I am once again going to call bullshit on each and every ludicrous, bullshit post I run across.

 

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Indo_Expat MK ULTRA Alpha Sat, 06/09/2018 - 15:02 Permalink

Ooooo, Alex Jones now eh General? "Deeply embedded in Islam" are we?

HA HA! What a fucking howl, do you sit around with your rabid lesbian rug muncher schizo sidekick in front of a crystal ball and a bag of shrooms "What do I seee... what do I seee... Indo Expat.... Indo Expat...."

You freaks belong in a mental institution, four point restraints and ECT twice a day at the high end.

Cook up some more voodoo shit General, make it interesting this time around and throw in a little Kalimantan Dayak cannibalism and wrestling pythons. I also have an army of flesh-eating natives there too, and routinely commune with the ghost of Colonel Kurtz in his former cave.

And it's "Marines," General, capital "M." 

Fucking teenage juvenile psychopath.

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Reaper gatorengineer Mon, 06/04/2018 - 18:26 Permalink

18 U.S. Code § 1001 - (a) Except as otherwise provided in this section, whoever, in any matter within the jurisdiction of the executive, legislative, or judicial branch of the Government of the United States, knowingly and willfully—

(1) falsifies, conceals, or covers up by any trick, scheme, or device a material fact;

(2) makes any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or representation; or

(3) makes or uses any false writing or document knowing the same to contain any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or entry;

shall be fined under this title, imprisoned

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Endgame Napoleon gatorengineer Mon, 06/04/2018 - 19:50 Permalink

No consequences for them, either. Congress Critters lie all the time and then raise their own astronomical pay for lying, after which they s***w the millions of underemployed, non-welfare-eligible citizens and the 50 million (conservative estimate that does not count working-age citizens between 16 & 18 and 60 & 65) who are out of the workforce, but not counted as unemployed.

They lie to us and s***w us, even though we stand in lines to vote for them to have these cushy jobs.

COngress Critters represent the economic interests of a few of the citizens who bother to do the chore of voting for them in the upper classes and what is left of the womb-productive middle class.

They represent the economic interests of a lot of womb-productive citizens at the bottom who never bother to vote for any CONgress Critter or any presidential candidate in many cases.

And CONgress Critters represent the economic interests of a few rich and powerful foreigners, cashing in on globalism via contacts with elected elites, in addition to the economic interests of a multitude of cheap, noncitizen laborers who are ineligible to vote, but who are eligible for thousands upon thousands in welfare wage boosters from Uncle Sam that enable them to undercut non-welfare-eligible citizens in the rigged, non-free labor market in their own country.

Despite all of this, some s*****d and un-represented citizens still do the civic chore of voting to ensure that CONgress Critters get a $185k job and a 135-day work year, in addition to six figure to multi-million lobbying opportunities after leaving office.

Various types of industries seek to cash in on the contacts of retired CONgress Critters, including the employers of umpteen-million, non-voting, foreign workers living in China and Mexico and all of the employers of umpteen-million illegal aliens and many of the 1 million legal immigrants admitted to the USA each year. 

They benefit from layers of monthly welfare and child tax credits up to $6,431 due to working part time for traceable income that falls under the income limits for welfare in households with a single earner and US-born kids.

They do not vote. But CONgress Critters represent their economic interests FAR more than they represent the interests of most citizens due the employers of the six-figure lobbyists that line their campaign war-chest coffers and that offer up their post-office-holding lobbying prospects.

After landing a $185k job due entirely to mostly [played] voters, CONgress Critters have a multitude of industries, seeking to benefit from their influence—I mean skills—whereas underemployed US citizens are told that they just are not as skilled as this Third World workforce of noncitizens that the lobbyists who provide CONgress Critters with all of these opportunities lobby on behalf of and that CONgress represents more than most citizens who vote for them.

When cheap labor for their donors is on the line, CONgress Critters represent the cheap labor with zero concern for whether or not those cheap laborers hold citizenship or the right to vote.

That is why they——-our so-called “representatives” in this republic with a small r——-have zero contrition about approving a lobbyist-backed immigration policy.

This crappy policy ensures that most American citizens—with the exception of womb-productive citizens and noncitizens whose paychecks are thousands higher, regardless of absenteeism and regardless of other sources of unearned income from spouses or welfare—get endless rounds of refundable and non-refundable child tax credits to boost up their earned income, while the rest of us voters with no unearned income from government or spouses do not get a raise in 40 years and face rent that soaks up more than half of our earned-only income.

Employers love a welfare-fueled workforce that does not need decent hours or adequate pay due to rent and other major household bills that do not need to be covered by wages alone. Cheapskate employers love a workforce that must work part time for low wages in single-earner households to stay under the income limits for these CONgress-designed welfare and tax-welfare programs.

The PERMANENT wage stagnation / deflation is due, in part, to so much unfettered competition from welfare-fed, welfare-housed and $6431-child-tax-credit cashing, womb-productive, legal and illegal immigrants, plus the offshoring of over 2 million jobs and SS contributions.

WE—the citizens who bother to vote—represent the economic interests of CONgress Critters a lot more than they represent the economic interests of most citizens.

I do not care if CONgress Critters sell this raw money grubbing by claiming they do it for the good of their cuddly babies, for the good of the cuddly babies of voting citizens, for the good of the cuddly babies of non-voting citizens, for the good of the cuddly babies of non-voting noncitizens or for the good of the cuddly koala bears who cannot vote in the country of Australia.

[insert emojis of cuddly babies, cuddly koala bears and an “I Voted” emoji]

Un-represented voters representing the economic interests of elected elites is not what the Founders meant by a Republic. 

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greenskeeper carl gatorengineer Mon, 06/04/2018 - 20:20 Permalink

While I certainly despise Faceberg, and wouldn't care a bit if he got locked up, there's something amusing and ironic about a democratic congressman complaining abotu someone else being a liar. Pot, meet kettle....

 

Of course I guess this is like everything else related to the government and its agents: they can lie to you all they want, but lying to them is illegal.

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CharlieSeattle gatorengineer Mon, 06/04/2018 - 20:50 Permalink
  • False Statements

https://www.lawfareblog.com/law-lying-perjury-false-statements-and-obst…

By far the broadest federal statute criminalizing lying is 18 U.S.C. § 1001, which makes it a crime to “knowingly and willfully . . . make[] any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or representation” in the course of “any matter within the jurisdiction of the executive, legislative, or judicial branch” of the federal government. There’s no requirement that the statement be under oath.

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Endgame Napoleon AlaricBalth Mon, 06/04/2018 - 22:27 Permalink

He doesn’t employ that many Americans, but he does pay the American citizens that he employs an absolute ton. He is no cheapskate. His “average” enployee makes about $250k. It is ridiculous, really, in that these 23-year-old citizens and noncitizens get paid more than most nuclear scientists and brain surgeons for constructing this baby-show-off / cat-show-off site. 

This is really not what is causing overall wage stagnation in this county. 

How about some concern over all of these low-dollar employers of illegal & legal immigrants and millions of citizens, too, who are counted as “employed,” but are either 1) on welfare, 2) have spousal income or 3) have child support and child tax credits without which they could never work for so little pay that no non-welfare-eligible, single citizen with one, earned-only income could survive on it?

How about less deference from the tin-cup CONgress Critters for those “job providers” whose so-called “employees” ——— over 40 million of them ——— cannot even afford food on their pay, leaving taxpayers to foot the bill for the groceries and rent of their “employees,” while likewise ensuring that, no matter how few hours they work, the womb-productive, citizen / noncitizen employees have more in their paychecks than non-welfare-eligible citizens who must compete with them for jobs with no wage boosters from Uncle Sam? 

The privacy issues on the internet need to be addressed, probably by the SCOTUS, although those black-robed elites will definitely put the [corporation-people] ahead of the actual people, and in their case, money from lobbyists is not the explanation, albeit they may have connections who benefit indirectly.

All of these governmental elites—whether in elected or appointed positions—have tons of extra, salaried income to invest in the status quo of globalist markets that create so much aristocratic-level wealth for them and for these corporations.

They do not have to give up anything to invest with all of the extra money that accrues to them from massive, no-risk salaries, with most of today’s assortative mates keeping two of those high-paying, salaried, no-risk jobs with benefits under one roof, while millions of Americans struggle to cover rent on a bunch of $10 to $12-per-hour churn jobs, with ZERO unearned income, not even UC to cover rent between churn jobs. 

Most of us are not getting  anything much out of hard work in this new economy or out of ceding our privacy rights in a so-called republic to use the products created by the high earners.

Many of us pay a good chunk of our paltry, earned-only income just to access the internet, albeit it appears to not be anything like enough for these internet companies to make a profit for the CEOs, their well-paid employees and for all of their dual-high-earner-parent investors, sinking the leftovers from their two massive salaries per household into the stock market. 

They have all of that extra money, while telling all of us childless citizens who cannot afford rent that “YOU just don’t know what it is like to raise two boys.”

OH, the burden of dropping off the kids with the worshipful, at-my-beck-and-call, free grandparent babysitters and spending my child tax credit on my 7th, excused, two-week vacation for the kids (of the year to date), while also affording about 10 layers of other major luxuries and a full range of basic expenses, including kiddo expenses. 

YOU, with your rent that soaks up more than half of your pay, your $0.00 in unearned income from government to reward sex and reproduction and your prompt firing if you even miss 5 minutes of work after missing zero days of work and producing sky-high numbers in both account generation and account retention every single month for my benefit and for the benefit of my kiddos, but not for your own economic benefit, would NEVER understand that burden due to zero birth-canal exits.

Another frequently absentee from work and above-firing working parent and global investor, with a spouse in an equally above-firing, family-friendly job, doubling up on benefits also undergirded by a $260-billion tax exclusion for his employer, would understand this burden that parents face.

All of my many low-paid, welfare-buttressed, frequently absentee, womb-productive momma employees, spending paychecks bumped up by $6,431 in refundable child tax credits, free groceries and subsidized rent——like ALL of the women that I hire and retain in this mom-gang discrimination-ring job————-would understand the burden of busy-working families / busy babyvacationing parents who do EVERYTHING for their kids, including letting immigrant women get down on their hands and knees to scrape our feet for us in salons for $9 per hour during work hours.

YOU, single, childless, no-chance applicant with a degree, years of experience, 4 legally required licenses, high sales numbers everywhere you work,  zero days and weeks of absenteeism, zero spousal income, zero child support to cover rent and zero unearned income to reward sex and reproduction from government would not understand why we do these self-indulgent-cubed things for our BABIES!!!!!

With no birth-canal exits, you would not even begin to understand all the cutthroat things that mommas must do for their BABIES and for the $50 pedicures that they get for their babies. 

Those stupid things last them a couple of weeks, and yet, they just cannot afford the expenses of kids without paycheck boosters from CONgress and the US Treasury Department. 

Corporations got a big tax break this year. Instead of creating jobs for AMERICAN CITIZENS that pay enough to cover rent, particularly for those without acccess to pay-per-birth monthly welfare, pay-per-birth welfare from the progressive tax code, child support that covers rent or spousal income, corporations used the tax cut to pump up the stock dividends of those never-get-enough-time-off-for-the-kids working parents, with their two six-figure jobs per household, their $700k homes, their lake homes, their kids’ private schools, their ten 2-week excused babyvacations to Europe per year for the kiddos, their spa trips for the babies and their wildly expensive dinner out for the kids every 3 days.   

They also pumped up the wages of womb-productive dual earners with somewhat lower paychecks, including the moms dominating the part-time office jobs in the safer areas of cities to add keeping-up-with-the-Jones’ income to a spousal income. I have worked with many of them, bounding out the door every day at 2:30, leaving behind phones ringing off the hook with paying customers and for weeks of baby travel soccer, and never getting fired regardless of their numbers due to the corrupt-a**, crony-mom cliques called “work”places.

The welfare mommas and the male, illegal alien breadwinners in households with US-born kids work part time for traceable income [officially], not while on the clock in back-watching cliques, to stay below the income limits for free rent, free food, free electricity, free monthly cash assistance and up to $6,431 in sex-and-reproduction pay from the progressive tax code. 

The people getting s*****d are the single, non-womb-productive earners who have only earned income, particularly those who bother to come to work every day, stay all day and work hard to keep the babyvacationing and above-firing, womb-productive, family-friendly managers’ numbers up. They get less than enough pay to cover rent, no pay for sex from welfare programs and the progressive tax code and the brutal end of the corrupt, crony-parent-run job churn-mobile in the USA.

I am an unhip, middle-aged, non-technical person who has never worked in a tech company, so I will have to take their word for it. Internet companies seem to need to data mine and unleash the annoying, targeted advertising to generate enough profit.

And, of course, without ad targeting, the advertising *teams* of either 100% hip, young, brand-spankng-new-college-grad chicks with zero job experience in even related fields or 100% back-watching, family-friendly, absenteeism-friendly cliques of college-educated moms with spousal income would lack jobs in an industry that pays a little more than most jobs for college grads in some cases.

Those women might even have to raise their own children, rather than leaving that work to $9-per-hour daycare workers, babysitters with NannyCams or their elderly parents, if those targeted ads did not ensure that career option. We cannot have that in the era of womb-productivity-focused fake feminism.

Older women without children would also see less insulting ads,, but these people do not want to sell to us, anyway, no more than the TV-ad people, with their parents-who-love-their-kids-drive a-Suburus ads and their now-that- I have-kids-I-don’t-want-to-spend my-weekend-fixing-the-toilet ads. Hey dude: You have more people using it due to your sexual activity. You spend YOUR weekend fixing it. 

But the internet privacy issue is not a matter of any one company. It seems to be both an overarching, technical security problem and a conundrum about how content creators and app makers are able to profit from their work. 

Kid yourself not, it is not just these internet companies who trod heavily over customer privacy, as anyone who has ever worked in the back offices of the financial services industry knows. They have tons of unprofessional-cubed, absentee-mom-gang employees and tons of information on consumers, loosely housed, as the Equifax thing showed, not that they are the only ones.

In the name of dual-high-earner parents maintaining as much risk-free wealth as they can for their royal families, most American citizens have less and less freedom, near-zero privacy it seems and fewer job opportunities of any substance, not even basic rent-paying substance, albeit governent pays the low-earning citizen and noncitizen womb producers for sex as a consolation to the rest of us. 

Remember: It is all done for babies. 

 

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