"Downright Chilling": Rosenstein "Threatened" To Subpoena Congressmen In Closed-Door Meeting

Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein threatened to "subpoena" GOP members of the House Intelligence Committee during a tense January meeting involving committee members and senior DOJ/FBI officials, according to emails seen by Fox News documenting the encounter described by aides as a "personal attack." 

That said, Rosenstein was responding to a threat to hold him in contempt of Congress - and the "threat" to subpoena GOP records was ostensibly in order for him to be able to defend himself. 

Rosenstein allegedly threatened to "turn the tables" on the committee's aggressive document requests, according to Fox.

The DAG [Deputy Attorney General Rosenstein] criticized the Committee for sending our requests in writing and was further critical of the Committee’s request to have DOJ/FBI do the same when responding,” the committee's then-senior counsel for counterterrorism Kash Patel wrote to the House Office of General Counsel. “Going so far as to say that if the Committee likes being litigators, then ‘we [DOJ] too [are] litigators, and we will subpoena your records and your emails,’ referring to HPSCI [House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence] and Congress overall.”

A second House committee staffer at the meeting backed up Patel’s account, writing: “Let me just add that watching the Deputy Attorney General launch a sustained personal attack against a congressional staffer in retaliation for vigorous oversight was astonishing and disheartening. ... Also, having the nation’s #1 (for these matters) law enforcement officer threaten to 'subpoena your calls and emails' was downright chilling.” -Fox News

The committee staffer suggested that Rosenstein's comment could be interpreted to mean that the DOJ would "vigorously defend a contempt action" -- which might be expected. But the staffer continued, "I also read it as a not-so-veiled threat to unleash the full prosecutorial power of the state against us."

But really - Rosenstein appears to have been warning the GOP Committee members that he would aggressively defend himself. 

G-Men Hit Back

A DOJ official said that Rosenstein “never threatened anyone in the room with a criminal investigation," telling Fox that the department and bureau officials in the room “are all quite clear that the characterization of events laid out here is false,” and that Rosenstein was merely responding to a threat of contempt.  

The FBI, meanwhile, said that they disagree with "a number of characterizations of the meeting as described in the excerpts of a staffer’s emails provided to us by Fox News."

“The Deputy Attorney General was making the point—after being threatened with contempt — that as an American citizen charged with the offense of contempt of Congress, he would have the right to defend himself, including requesting production of relevant emails and text messages and calling them as witnesses to demonstrate that their allegations are false,” the official said. “That is why he put them on notice to retain relevant emails and text messages, and he hopes they did so. (We have no process to obtain such records without congressional approval.)”

Details of the encounter began to trickle out in early February, as Fox News' Greg Jarrett tweeted: "A 2nd source has now confirmed to me that, in a meeting on January 10, Deputy A-G Rosenstein used the power of his office to threaten to subpoena the calls & texts of the Intel Committee to get it to stop it’s investigation of DOJ and FBI. Likely an Abuse of Power & Obstruction."

Fox says that the emails they reviewed provide additional evidence of the encounter - while a former DOJ official said that the exchange may shed light on how the relationship between the agency and the Republican-led House committee has broken down in subsequent months. 

“This is much worse than a deteriorating relationship – this is a massive breakdown in the system. A deputy attorney general does not make subpoena threats lightly. This is not the norm to say the least,” said Tom Dupree, former principal deputy assistant attorney general for the George W. Bush administration. “It’s hard to tell whether [Rosenstein] was sending a message to back off, or whether he was just trying to illustrate how invasive he considered the demands from Congress. But either way, it is a clear signal that the relationship is fractured, and it’s not clear how things will get repaired.”

The fight between the DOJ and Congressional investigators over the boundaries of Congressional oversight vs. the DOJ's apparent concern for protecting sources and methods (and evidence of potential crimes) has set the tone for a sustained dispute over records, and has set in motion the latest round of confrontations between Chairman Devin Nunes and Rosenstein - who has requested records related to the FBI's use of a confidential informant to spy on the Trump campaign

Asked about the January meeting, Nunes provided a statement to Fox News noting they referred the incident to House Speaker Paul Ryan’s office: “The Intelligence Committee considers staff concerns at the most serious level, especially those involving interactions with the executive branch. Based on the justified concerns expressed by our lead staff investigators, we referred this matter to the Speaker’s Office.” -Fox News

A source on the House Intelligence Committee told Fox that "going to the DOJ IG [Inspector General] is one of several steps under consideration" by the panel. Meanwhile, Dupree noted that current tension between the DOJ and Congress go well beyond traditional oversight wrangling. 

"Rarely, if ever, has it deteriorated to this point where you have what appears to be threats going back and forth between the two sides," he said. 

Comments

takeaction Tue, 06/12/2018 - 20:01 Permalink

This shit has gone on too long.

Fire Sessions...get Judge Janine in there.

Day after tomorrow is the BIG REPORT from the IG...this should get good.

 

 

Cognitive Dissonance bigkahuna Tue, 06/12/2018 - 20:11 Permalink

The only purpose of power is to use it - Rosenstein and many many others before him. The concept and execution goes back to before Biblical times.

For what it's worth I think Sessions is in WAY over his head...just the way the deep state likes their executive appointees.

<I suspect they have Sessions so bogged down in paperwork and minutia he's interviewing and supervising those being hired to clean the toilets.>

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NoDebt Pure Evil Tue, 06/12/2018 - 20:30 Permalink

Rosenstein, translated:  "I want him dead!  I want his family dead!  I want his house burned to the ground!"

 

Seriously, for the grown-ups here...  Is there really ANY doubt what he said was anything other than a threat?  Didn't think so.  If he had said "Come at me, bro!" it couldn't be any more clear.  He is ready to use the full resources of his office to respond to any attempt of Congress to oversee his activities, regardless of the fact that they have a legal right and responsibility to do so.

 

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MoreSun A Sentinel Tue, 06/12/2018 - 20:59 Permalink

What do you expect from another dual israeli citizen appointee deep state jew supremacist like rosenstein: Here is what his state of allegiance is doing:

Disabled for life” by Israel’s shoot-to-cripple policy

And the response by Western leaders to the wanton slaughter in Gaza and Israeli snipers' use of high velocity dum-dum rounds on civilians? Some are happy to leave the rogue state to investigate itself.

https://www.veteranstoday.com/2018/06/09/disabled-for-life-by-israels-s…

 

"Against Our Better Judgement" By Alison Weir

" The jewish Revolutionary Spirit" By E. Michael Jones

" The jewish Onslaught" By Dr. Tony Martin

" MegaCaust" By Mike Walsh

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Billy the Poet wadalt Tue, 06/12/2018 - 21:59 Permalink

But hey, he's (((one of them))).

 

So are you.

 

The Double Identity of an "Anti-Semitic" Commenter

The deception was many-layered. At one point he had one of his characters charge that the anti-Semitic comments and the criticism of the anti-Semitic comments must be written by "internet trolls who have been known to impersonate anti-Semites in order to then double-back and accuse others of supporting anti-Semitism"--exactly what he was doing. (Trolls are posters who foment discord.)

The impersonation, this character wrote, must be part of an "elaborate Hasbara setup," referring to an Israeli international public-relations campaign. When Common Dreams finally confronted the man behind the deceptive posting, he denied that he himself was involved with Hasbara.

https://www.commondreams.org/hambaconeggs

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ravolla Billy the Poet Tue, 06/12/2018 - 23:21 Permalink

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Theosebes Goodfellow ravolla Wed, 06/13/2018 - 01:21 Permalink

~"Rosenstein allegedly threatened to "turn the tables" on the committee's aggressive document requests, according to Fox."~

It just has to make you wonder what exactly is he hiding though. That's the trouble with all this redaction bullshit. Is he hiding the fact that the FBI was completely in the bag for Hillary/Obama, because that is the only conclusion you can come away with at the end of the day.

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MoreSun Billy the Poet Wed, 06/13/2018 - 01:16 Permalink

Remove all jew supremacists from all positions of power throughout the world, no matter how small the power position is- DO IT NOW !!

Is that to straight for you billy the jew.

Rid the U.S. of all dual citizen israelis and all jew supremacists from our Federal, State & Local governments, and all other private institutions- Now !!!

Does that clarify it for you?

The Deep State is jew supremacism & the zionist machine.

Now billy you spin it, fluff it, and squeal about it, but that's what we want and we want it Now !! 

We want our Republic, its Constitution & Bill of Rights protected & preserved forever or as long as the Christian God allows. 

the screeching of "Anti-semite" is a used up dog bone, dead on the vine- the jew supremacists and their rabid blood sucking followers have bled it dryer than the lake of fire itself.

https://www.veteranstoday.com/2018/06/09/disabled-for-life-by-israels-s…

 

"Against Our Better Judgement" By Alison Weir

" The jewish Revolutionary Spirit" By E. Michael Jones

" The jewish Onslaught" By Dr. Tony Martin

" MegaCaust" By Mike Walsh

   

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phaedrus1952 Unknown User Tue, 06/12/2018 - 22:06 Permalink

Witness the bifurcation of perception regarding the Trump/Kim meeting.

The need to appear objective is crucial when the gravitas and emotions are as severe as is presently the case.

Nunes et al KNOW ALREADY what is in ALL those documents via NSA resources.

When the stuff comes out - hopefully in the next few days - it will be clear a deeply entrenched, anti American cabal was thwarted in their attempted coup d'etat.

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rgraf phaedrus1952 Tue, 06/12/2018 - 22:27 Permalink

They're all dirty, and the banksters must be deeply regretting their policy of hiring stooges just intelligent enough to foolow orders, but too stupid to question those orders. They all think they have the backing of their bankster overlords, not realizing that they are merely decoys. And the banksters are now seeing that enough of the populace is aware to the point that too many people have figured out the hoax, for the exposition to be shouted down. Complicate that with the fact that the only believers left are far too stupid to present a coherent position, and it all equals meltdown. Going to be an interesting summer.

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Last Man Standing phaedrus1952 Wed, 06/13/2018 - 10:05 Permalink

It is indeed a coup attempt and it continues as we speak. Until President Trump ignores Kelly's nonsense and Fires everyone appointed by Obama it will continue. Fire them all, investigate them all and arrest, try and imprison all involved. If the law allows for some of them to be executed, then do that too. It is the only thing that will stop future left wing attempts at overthrowing the U.S. government.

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MoreFreedom cankles' server Wed, 06/13/2018 - 11:23 Permalink

The DAG [Deputy Attorney General Rosenstein] criticized the Committee for sending our requests in writing and was further critical of the Committee’s request to have DOJ/FBI do the same when responding

When anyone prefers things not be in writing, it tells you they are crooked.  They don't want documentation of their lies coming back as evidence against them.   Charge him with obstruction of Congress.  Then, his attorneys can ask the DOJ to turn over documents, and the court can reject his requests.  He'll have no power, except for his dwindling list of conspirators in government that are willing to incriminate themselves in helping him.  

I say charge him with obstruction of Congress first, then get him on obstruction of justice and likely other crimes he's been involved in later.

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mc888 chunga Tue, 06/12/2018 - 20:56 Permalink

Rosie just keeps racking up counts of Obstruction and Malfeasance. Congress can find him in Contempt and move to Impeach. Add those charges to the already proven Conspiracy (RICO) and Sedition, if he was in collusion with a foreign power (MI6) you can add Espionage and deny him due process as an enemy combatant.

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phaedrus1952 mc888 Tue, 06/12/2018 - 21:46 Permalink

The "active shooter" ploy at the DOJ yesterday occurred when Rosenstein was up in Canada.

Way too many potential plot lines and speculation for me to confidently assess what is going on, but the IG report coming out Thursday should offer much clarity.

Huber will drop the hammer shortly thereafter.

FWIW, there should be NO doubt that this whole Qanon phenomena is a legit operation with the NSA teaming up with other white hats to demolish the Deep State.

Apparently, the tarmac meeting in Arizona was both audiotaped and manifested obvious input from the Kenyan hisself.

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rgraf chunga Tue, 06/12/2018 - 22:34 Permalink

Authority is a fallacy. Their 'authority' is derived from the non existent 'consent of the populace', which being totally hallucinatory, has been changed to the 'social contract', much like global warming became 'climate change'. 'Checks and balances' are just as meaningless. The judiciary is nominated by the executive and approved by CONgress. The whole system was based upon a group of traitors who overthrew the existing government, and then declared themselves supreme. Never mind that nobody ever had the right to declare themselves to be government.

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philipat NoDebt Tue, 06/12/2018 - 20:55 Permalink

Seems like Comey was not the only insubordinate one? Congress has a constitutional oversight duty over DOJ and yet, even though the applicable members have the necessary levels of security clearance, DOJ is fighting them every step of the way, presumably because something or someone(s) is being covered up. Rosenstein should be fired, although that should have happened long ago. Where is Sessions?

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phaedrus1952 philipat Tue, 06/12/2018 - 21:54 Permalink

There is a LOT that is being covered up, with the main - not the only - crime being an attempted coup d'etat.

The 8chan Q Research board has 24/7 input on all these developments and those autists are a colorful, talented bunch.

Huber is working with Horowitz and the 'flipping' - particularly with key players like Priestap - will ensure as smooth and complete a demolition of the Deep State as possible.

A significant component of this process will be to have tens of millions of Americans who loathe Trump accept these outcomes as both true and fair.

Obama is now strongly implicated in ALL the minutia of this plot.

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rgraf phaedrus1952 Tue, 06/12/2018 - 22:43 Permalink

The conjobstitution was a coup d'etat, by the descendants of a long line of pirates, spies, thieves, slavers, moneychangers and merchants of war, who met in private and were sworn to lifelong vows of silence. They conjured up, 'We, the People' as cover, since they were members of a secret society, who had no authorization from the US congress to form a new government. It was a bankruptcy reorganization, to form a usurious central bank. And it was the first of several bankruptcy reorganizations. Patrick Henry warned about it: king, conscription, taxation, empire, and watch out when they use 'national security as a reason for secrecy. Trump is there to create a constitutional crisis, since his puppetmasters don't dare attavk the bill of rights directly. Remember, the bill of rights was voted down 10-0 during the convention in Philadelphia. Those who signed the document (only 39 of the 55 attendees) opposed a bill of rights.

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MK ULTRA Alpha NoDebt Tue, 06/12/2018 - 21:17 Permalink

Rosenstein is a communist, we're in a low intensity soft civil war. Patel is from India, a foreigner. We don't know his allegiance but it's most likely anti-American anti-white social justice cultural Marxist. Most likely flowed with the Obama era causes and beliefs. And since a majority of the Jews are gypsies from India, well Patel is a cousin in arms against the culture and manner of white capitalist middle class Americana. (Evangelical Zionist Christians are brainwashed to support the Jews when everything has been aimed at their destruction.)

The entire government is loaded with communist, foreigners, and anti-this and anti-that, from the Obama communist homosexual take down of America. It was  cultural Marxism as an extension of state policy and the actors, still in power, have declared war on us.

The federal government needs to be purged on fiscal grounds as well as ideological.

If we can't have people we trust in the government then we don't have a country. The US government has been hijacked. It was the Northern States martial law agency form of government which worked well, however today, the federal government is made up of people with an ideological indifference to the American people, values and manners. 

We've been robbed over and over in national robberies because of the manipulation of the government to rob us. Less and less freedom is allowed, with constant attempts to take more freedoms without asking. Now Bilderberg Group has the fix, a security grid to be installed like the Chinese version which uses AI technology to monitor every move we make, every word we say, to collect data to control us. The system being rolled out will grade, judge and imprison. Far fetched, then you haven't been paying attention to the Chinese state security advances and the same system the Bilderberg Group wants for Europe and the US. Lists? that's an old fashion, out dated method of state control, you're going to have your own AI robot software following you around for your entire life. It won't be like a commercial AI robot, which collects data to offer you ads on products and services, it collects and stores a life time of your data, now state security will install the most draconian police state system ever to be conceived for the entire world. EU bloc, then North American bloc, will have the control grid paid for by US tax payers. The Pentagon has publicly released the plan.

Diabolical!

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janus MK ULTRA Alpha Wed, 06/13/2018 - 02:05 Permalink

MKULTRA is right...spot on, in fact.

we're up against people who seek our total and complete destruction.  for now, it's still mostly a frog-boiling campaign.  many have died quietly...names we'll never know fallen in a silent war.  mrs. janus is into natural medicine (the stuff is remarkably effective...i used to be a major skeptic), and it would astonish you anons to learn of the number of strange and unexplainable deaths (nail gun kinda stuff...but worse) affecting the natural medicine community.  inasmuch as the anti-establishment movement has many spheres, they sometimes don't overlap.  for the most part, we at ZH only hear about the 'suicides' involving financial or political outsiders.  the wickedness we face is pervasive.  it brooks no deviation whatsoever.  comply or die is the very simple message being transmitted.  this is literally a fight to preserve the dignity and autonomy of the human spirit.  George Orwell could never have fathomed what these vermin have planned.

it begins when we start to understand that jews are not a race nor are they an ethnicity.  DNA evidence is proving this.  (((they))) really are nothing more than an organized criminal syndicate.  how do we sift the 'good' jews from their more pernicious 'brethern'?  easy...we have all communications stored in Utah.  this is RICO stuff in service of high-treason and terrorism.  

i'm sure there are plenty (most, in fact) jews who take the larp of their history seriously.  they are in fact impostors, poseurs, charlatans, crooks and criminals.  average (gullible) jews just give cover for the broader kike enterprise. (((this))) is the issue the world is going to have to face if humanity is to breath free and live in relative harmony.  (((it))) truly is an existential menace.

these people literally are just sophisticated gypsies that interbred everywhere they went...using a purloined religion as cover for their crimes against humanity.

(((they))) are literally a disease within society...and they will do the same thing all over again if set loose in south america or the middle east or eastern europe.  i'm not endorsing genocide by any means.  but they will have to be exiled and commerce with their neighbors must be strictly limited.  

it is very much the same as saying we should let ms-13 roam the streets freely because they belong to the same group.

judaism is just a mafia...it's time people started to understand that.

everything about them is a lie...everything.

they make whole industries of pity so you'll look the other way -- even weep for them as they cry out in pain while striking you.

'god's chosen people'?

really?  what god would that be, kikes?

janus

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rgraf NoDebt Tue, 06/12/2018 - 22:10 Permalink

The executive branch is only supposed to execute whatever the legislative branch, unless it gets vetoed. And, the judicial branch is supposed to be the final check on those powers, even though the judiciary is appointed by executive nomination with congressional approval. So, the real question now is: was that 'strike three, you're out', or 'ball four: take a walk'.

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