Libya "Before And After" Photos Go Viral

A Libyan man who took photos of himself posing at various spots across Beghazi in 2000 has revisited the same locations 18 years later to photograph life under the new "NATO liberated" Libya. 

The "before and after" pics showing the utter devastation of post-Gaddafi Libya have gone viral, garnering 50,000 retweets after they were posted to an account that features historical images of Libya under Gaddafi’s rule between 1969 and 2011. 

It appears people do still care about Libya even if the political elites in Paris, London, and Washington who destroyed the country have moved on. Though we should recall that British foreign secretary Boris Johnson was caught on tape in a private meeting last year saying Libya was ripe for UK investment, but only after Libyans "clear the dead bodies away."  

We previously detailed in Libya's Slave Auctions And African Genocide: What Hillary Knew how Libya went from being a stable, modernizing secular state to a hellhole of roving jihadist militias, warring rival governments, and open-air slave auctions of captured migrants. 

Yet what the viral photos confirm is that Libya was once a place of sprawling hotels, wide and clean city streets, functioning infrastructure, and lively neighborhoods. But these very places are now bullet-ridden ruins rotting amidst the political backdrop of the 'Mad Max' style chaos unleashed immediately after US-NATO's bombing the country into regime change. 

Hillary still says that she has no regrets even after Obama timidly voiced a half-hearted and too-little-too-late Libya mea culpa of sorts in 2016.

Though Hillary's beloved Libyan Al Qaeda ..."rebels" — legitimized and empowered through broad support from the West — are now among the very militias hosting slave auctions and fueling the European refugee crisis, she's never so much as hinted that regime change in Libya left the country and much of the region in shambles. Instead, she simply chose to conclude her role in the tragic story of Libya with her crazed and gleeful declaration of "we came, we saw, he died."

Regime change enthusiasts everywhere please take note of what your blind jingoism has wrought.

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A year before the NATO bombing of Libya the UN Development Programme (UNDP) assigned a Human Development Index (HDI) ranking of 53 to Libya (out of 169 countries ranked, Libya ranked highest on the African continent). 

Right up until the eve of NATO's air campaign against the Libyan state, international media outlets understood and acknowledged the country's high human development rankings, though it later became inconvenient to present the empirical data. A February 2011 BBC report is a case in point. 

The 2011 war and aftermath created a failed state with a once economically independent population now turned largely dependent on foreign aid and relief. 

Currently considered to be at "emergency levels" of need, prior to NATO intervention Libya was not even on the Word Food Program's radar, yet is now considered a dire humanitarian disaster zone.

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Among the few editorials written in major Western publications in the midst NATO's war on Libya warning of the consequences to come in real time was a 2011 piece for The Telegraph by Brendan O'Neill.

Though apparently now scrubbed from the internet [this no longer exists on The Telegraph site or in its archives: “The narcissism of the iPad imperialists who want to invade Libya,” Brendan O’Neill, The Telegraph (blogs), 25 February 2011], O'Neill's article is worth revisiting.

The article is preserved and quoted extensively in the book, Slouching Towards Sirte: NATO's War on Libya and Africa, which contains essential summary context laying out the role that international media played in 2011 and after in lying the public into war. 

Below is an extensive excerpt from O'Neill's "The narcissism of the iPad imperialists who want to invade Libya"... relevant as ever when in comes to the West's continuing role in Libya, or in places like Syria, Yemen, or Afghanistan.

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In a modern political sphere that has its fair share of narcissists and ignoramuses, no one is quite as narcissistic or as ignorant as the liberal interventionist. From the comfort of his Home Counties home, possibly to the sound of birds tweeting on the windowsill, the liberal interventionist will write furious, spittle-stained articles about the need to invade faraway countries in order to topple their dictators. As casually and thoughtlessly as the rest of us write shopping lists, he will pen a 10-point plan for the bombing of Yugoslavia or Afghanistan or Iraq and not give a second thought to the potentially disastrous consequences.

Now, having learned nothing from the horrors that they cheer-led like excitable teenage girls over the past 15 years, these bohemian bombers, these latte-sipping lieutenants, these iPad imperialists are back. This time they’re demanding the invasion of Libya. In the Guardian Ian Birrell brushes aside the eight-year nightmare of Iraq in one sentence – we shouldn’t be “scarred by the foolishness of the Iraq invasion”, he says – as he calls on the international community to spearhead a “rapid intervention” to save the people of Libya. It’s like an “apocalyptic Hollywood film” and there are even “rumours of systematic male rape”, he says, proving once again that there is no situation so bad that it cannot be made to sound even worse by hacks seeking to emotionally blackmail NATO into dropping a couple of tonnes of bombs.

Over at Slate, a headline sums up the outlook of Libya-concerned liberals: “It’s time to intervene.” Apparently world leaders can send a message to the broader Arab world by getting a grip on the Libyan crisis now. “Before the region descends into protracted civil conflict, the international community has the opportunity, in Libya, to set an important precedent and save thousands of lives in the process.” Meanwhile, a gaggle of human rights groups is calling on the UN and the EU to intervene to “protect Libyan civilians from government killings”. The White Man’s Burden is alive and well, it seems, though it has been thoroughly de-Kiplingised and turned into a super-liberal, PC endeavour.

The ignorance of liberal interventionists is captured in the fact that they seem to have wilfully forgotten the disastrous interventions of the past 15 years, all of which, from Yugoslavia to Afghanistan to Iraq, exacerbated local tensions and led to more, not less, bloodshed. It takes a special kind of arrogance to be able to demand yet another international military venture when the terrible consequences of your last one are still plain to see. And their narcissism is contained in the fact that the real reason they are making these demands for war is to make themselves feel good, to demonstrate that they care with a capital C. They know nothing of the countries that they want to see invaded, and care little about the potential of such invasions to destabilise things further. No, all that matters is that in saying “Forget Iraq, let’s now attack Gaddafi!”, they can publicly demonstrate their own moral indefatigability.


two hoots TahoeBilly2012 Tue, 06/12/2018 - 10:31 Permalink

 Libya, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, it's what we do.  Only a few people on the planet make it possible but it's the remaining 99.9999% that suffer their decisions and actions.  History says it's our nature and will likely remain until other possibilities are experienced.  US/NK negotiations are a good start, Kurds meeting Assad is a good follow-up.  An informed planet is making a difference, the photos are the proof.  People can matter. 

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Heros two hoots Tue, 06/12/2018 - 10:42 Permalink

You forgot South Africa.  All the civilized blacks will openly admit that things were far better during Apartheid.

Although the people instigating the destruction and the destruction itself are the same in both instances, in SA the methods were much different.

What were the South Africans thinking anyway?  What did they think Israel was going to do once they had stolen and cooerced the information and materials they needed for their arsenal of nuclear weapons?

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beemasters SafelyGraze Tue, 06/12/2018 - 13:15 Permalink

It doesn't matter if it was Democrats or Republicans...In the end, it's the American people who paid for the atrocities and will likely be held responsible for the reparations. That's the reason there ought to be stronger citizen voices to stop future wars. There seems to be more vocal protests for Robinson free speech than against governments' illegal wars/mass killing. How did we end up here???

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Chris2 N0TME Wed, 06/13/2018 - 07:51 Permalink

Media was part of the color revolution in Libya. The CNN reporter was angry that the rebels ran up to the front and just started shooting, or wasting ammo shooting in the air. She was sounding like a fucking general during her reports. They let the mask slip because they thought they had this country in their clutches for all time.

Media never mentioned Libya after. I have been screaming about this since it happened. Nobody wants to talk about the failed state of Libya that is now practicing slavery and harvesting their organs!

And it wasn't just Hillary OBAMA WAS THE PRESIDENT. I get that we put Hillary front and center on that because she was running for President but does anyone think Pompeo can go completely destroy a country without Trump signing off?


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verite beemasters Tue, 06/12/2018 - 18:37 Permalink

Of course, blame the west!  Blame them when Ghadafi was a live tyrant, wasting Libya's money & killing his own people.  How could they let such an evil man go on?!  Blame NATO (after begging them) for being so slow to help with airstrikes when the uprising was about to lose and Ghadafi again, was killing his own people.  The fact that all the Islamic groups in Libya fighting against Ghadafi couldn't organize themselves, work together, & build a new country - of course has to be the west's fault. 

There's NO WAY that Islam was the problem nor selfish human nature.  Things are a mess, it couldn't be our fault, so it must be someone else's.

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Chris2 verite Wed, 06/13/2018 - 07:57 Permalink

Al Qaeda created by us, ISIS, ISIL or whatever they want to call it was created by us. It is the portable go anywhere army of ours.

Because those people are low IQ they think its real and join up, bandwagon. Its a color revolution that started in Afghanistan in the 80s.


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PrayingMantis Yellow_Snow Tue, 06/12/2018 - 11:47 Permalink


    ....  In the year of 2000 there were eight countries without a Rothschild-owned or -controlled Central Bank:

  1. Afghanistan
  2. Iraq
  3. Sudan
  4. Libya
  5. Cuba
  6. North Korea
  7. Iran
  8. Syria


The only countries left in 2003 without a Central Bank owned or controlled by the Rothschild Family were:

  1. Sudan
  2. Libya
  3. Cuba
  4. North Korea
  5. Iran
  6. Syria


The only four countries left in 2011, to this day, without a Central Bank owned or controlled by the Rothschild Family are:

  1. Cuba ... note: hybrid system ... peso for locals and peso for tourists (redeemable by Cuba through BIS in Basel) ...
  2. North Korea ... note: depending on Trump/Kim summit outcome, might be the next to fall ...
  3. Iran
  4. Syria


     ... this is what these talmudic “wars” are all about ...


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PrayingMantis rwe2late Tue, 06/12/2018 - 17:08 Permalink


    ... @rwe2late >>> ... “PBOC controlled by Rothschilds?? ... “ ...


... yes, as well as Russia’s ... and also, keep in mind, China has a US$3.21 Trillion reserve (Nov2017) and probably not paying into the Rothschild coffers ... and, China, as well as Russia is part of the founding members of BRICS consortium which are in the process of detaching from the long tentacles of Rothschild via the Petro-Yuan to disable the Pedro-dollar from its default-currency pedestal ...

... they now have BRICS Bank, which takes over any IMF, World Bank and other Rothschild-owned entities, for any loans BRICS members might require ... and, perhaps, to any non-BRICS member, as well, like Iran or Syria ... they might even be offering Iran or Syria any oil-based or otherwise preferred loans outside of any SWIFT/BIS-controlled scenario ...

 ... one of the reasons for the non-stop barrage of Russia-bashing is due to the fact that Russia’s debts to Rothschild and other creditors were forgiven (despite the fact that Russia’s central bank is also Rothschild-controlled) when the defunct USSR was split into 15 different countries or states and none of those countries would be stupid enough to “take over” the Rothschild and other creditors’ debts (of the USSR) and therefore Russia became debt-free, owing nothing to the talmudic Rothschild family and other creditors ...

 ... and so, the only recourse by (((them))), to get back at Russia, is to use their (((media))), their (((deep state))) (international and domestic organizations) to harass and heap scorn against Russia ... all because Rothschild is losing control of the BRICS side of the planet ...

... China and Russia as well as India are amassing a great deal of gold bullion too, as well as China’s BRI project (belt/road initiative) and even making Tehran as a hub of the BRI ...

... let’s not forget, as well, that Russia had already implemented a SWIFT alternative as well as their own credit card system ... and China is working on it too, to piggy-back on the BRICS system ...

... and just yesterday, Russia is planning to detach from the DNS western internet system ... 

... who knows, soon, Syria and other countries might join the BRICS consortium to keep off Rothschild’s grasp ...


... all these and other BRICS plans point to a totally separate system NOT controlled by Rothschild and their talmudic gang of  banksters...  


 ... hope these help answer your question ...


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DjangoCat MANvsMACHINE Tue, 06/12/2018 - 11:18 Permalink

"And their narcissism is contained in the fact that the real reason they are making these demands for war is to make themselves feel good,.."

Liberal neo-con war mongers.  Make sense? How about RepublicoDemocrats, or in Britain, LiberoConservatives? There is more involved than simple narcissism.  There is a deeper and more sinister agenda at work which crosses party political lines.  It seems to make no difference who is in power, the war machine keeps grinding on.  Some of these asshats may be useful idiots, but the most influential are evil motherfuckers who need to be taken out behind the barn. 

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Uchtdorf FireBrander Tue, 06/12/2018 - 10:30 Permalink

If Trump can declare in Singapore that there will be no more war games on the Korean Peninsula, as Commander In Chief he can also bring the thousands of US troops home from Syria. He can stop selling weapons to the bloody House of Saud as Yemen gets blown apart.

Is Trump in charge or not? Are you going to hold him to his campaign promises or not? Or is he just another puppet of the elites with traitors like Bolton and Pompeo calling the shots? Forget about what Trump says and watch what he does.

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