'Centrists' Are Very Concerned That Donald 'F**king' Trump Isn't Hawkish Enough

Authored by Caitlin Johnstone via Medium.com,

Today's American centrists (who only get to call themselves that because plutocratic media control has made Orwellian neoliberal neoconservatism the dominant ideology in the US) are deeply, profoundly concerned that Donald 'fucking' Trump is insufficiently hawkish.

This would be the same Donald Trump whose administration just facilitated the bombing of Yemen’s new cholera treatment center. The same Donald Trump who has increased US troops in AfghanistanSomalia and Syria. The same Donald Trump who is openly pursuing regime change in Iran. The same Donald Trump whose administration committed war crimes in Raqqa. The same Donald Trump who has made many dangerous cold war escalationsagainst Russia. The same Donald Trump whose administration has voiced a goal of regime change in Damascus and the intention of remaining in Syria indefinitely. The same Donald Trump whose air strikes are killing far more civilians than the drone king Obama’s did.

Centrist pundits and politicians on both sides of the aisle are saying that this very man is being too soft and cuddly toward North Korea. These would be the same centrist pundits and politicians who loudly cheered both of the timesthis administration bombed the Syrian government, effectively sending the message that the only way this narcissistic president can win praise by the manufacturers of the mainstream narrative is by rejecting peace and embracing war. Thanks guys.

In addition to bipartisan freak-outs from the punditry of the DC orthodoxy, Democratic leaders in both the House and the Senate have released statements criticizing the administration for not making more demands of Kim Jong-Un in this first extremely rudimentary initial meeting.

To their credit, fifteen more progress-minded House Democrats signed a statement addressed to the president diverging from the mainstream position of their party and expressing concern that “some, from both parties and inside and outside of your administration, seek to scuttle progress by attempting to limit the parameters of the talks, including by insisting on full and immediate denuclearization or other unrealistic commitments by North Korea at an early date.”

Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer would be one such voice, again repeating his previous demands for the “complete, verifiable, irreversible denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula, nothing less” in a press conference today.

This is plainly insane. Demanding that North Korea immediately disarm as a condition of further peace talks will immediately end those peace talks, since North Korea has no reason to disarm at this time, or at any time in the foreseeable future. Insisting on an immediate and completely illogical capitulation from Pyongyang is the very kind of demand which has prevented these peace talks from happening in the past, and if Trump made them he would be ensuring a return to previous tensions.

North Korea is highly unlikely to ever denuclearize as long as the world geopolitical landscape remains as it is. The only way that would happen would be if Pyongyang decided to allow the DPRK to be fully absorbed into the blob of the US-centralized imperial alliance like Japan, and it has no good reason to do so at this time. The best way to ensure peace is to work toward making changes which shift North Korea’s standing to that of any other non-US-aligned nuclear power, and ideally that would include the US and China getting out of the way as soon as possible to allow the North and the South to conduct their own diplomacy.

But by far the most common concerns being expressed about the Singapore summit are based not on a fear of this administration making insufficiently aggressive demands of Pyongyang, but on pure ridiculous nonsense.

“President Trump seems to have given away two or three of the major things that Kim Jong-Un wanted,” Schumer complained at the aforementioned press conference. “A meeting. The flags next to each other. Now a delay of exercises with South Korea, without getting anything in return.”

Huh? A meeting? Flags next to each other? I can kinda-sorta-almost see into Schumer’s twisted reality tunnel when it comes to temporarily suspending military drills along the DPRK’s border as an act of good faith, but on what planet is having a meeting or putting two flags next to each other a win of any kind?

Well, going by the outcry I’m seeing from Twitter pundits, the concern appears to be that it “legitimizes” Kim Jong-Un. What exactly that means is hard to fathom in terms of actual, tangible reality, but for years that term has been passed around like it has as much relevance as war or starvation sanctions. This imaginary product of “legitimacy” is, according to influential mainstream political commentators, meant to be withheld from Kim until he gives up everything he has and grovels on his belly begging for it.

This just shows you the power of narrative, where repeating some meaningless placeholder syllables over and over again can create the illusion that a purely mental construct is as relevant in peace negotiations as nuclear warheads. It isn’t hard to see through for anyone who doesn’t have a vested interest in subscribing to that narrative, though, and Pyongyang certainly has no such interest.

There are many, many perfectly valid things to criticize the Trump administration for. Opening up peace talks with North Korea is not one of them, and anyone who says it is is not a friend of humanity. The fact that nobody on either side of the aisle seems to have their foot anywhere near the brake pedal when it comes to war should concern us all, and we need to do something about it.

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Killtruck Wed, 06/13/2018 - 13:14 Permalink

Trump gets results. 


None of these pussies do.  


Who is going to challenge that in 2020? Who? None of these blowhards have done anything other than suck dick and take bribes.

Fish Gone Bad Pure Evil Wed, 06/13/2018 - 13:30 Permalink

Ali Watkins ties all kinds of bad players together.  The incriminating photo of Diane Feinstein should send chills down anyone's spine.  https://www.neonrevolt.com/2018/06/08/now-thats-a-methodical-takedown-l…

California is looking at a huge smack down.  If one believes Q post 1368.

Watch CA.

Wolfe has been squealing for a while.  People on various committees came to him to leak information.

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ravolla American Psycho Wed, 06/13/2018 - 14:02 Permalink

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Giant Meteor HopefulCynical Wed, 06/13/2018 - 16:06 Permalink

Happy, mad, sad or glad, does not matter. It’s all a fucking third rate shit show. It has been a third rate shit show for a very long time.

Everyone pouts, stomps their feet and treats the plebians to kabuki extraordinaire.

Fuck them all, as in reality NONE of these fucks has the least bit of honesty or integrity while bending over the sheep, as they have time immemorial, forever pretending intellect and wisdom, while perpetually lining their pockets in so called public service, their code for SELF SERVICE, Protecting their own magical way of life, which involves pandering at the basest human level .

seems to work too ....



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glenlloyd 1 Alabama Wed, 06/13/2018 - 13:44 Permalink

I just love the perpetual word-play they use.

I do realize that there's a lot of uninformed people out there but how on earth are they getting away calling Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Shumer as centrists?

That's rich...

Just as funny as Bob Corker talking about GOP now being cult-like, just a lot more word-play trying to place blame because Dem candidates are losing!!!

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brianshell glenlloyd Wed, 06/13/2018 - 15:09 Permalink

Like Trump said, anyone can start a war, but who can keep the peace?

Trump has asked Netanyahu to pull his settlements out of of Gaza. He has said he wants to pull troops out of the ME in various locations. He also wants to pulls troops out of SK. But he has a bigger goal, that is to win the chess game, to achieve lasting peace around the world.

He would rather make money in a peaceful way than a warlike way. That is why he has to destroy the many ratlines and players who make their fortune from chaos.

His strategy appears to be mainly by breaking up the games from the bottom up whereas many would rather cut off the snakes' head than kill it with a thousand cuts.

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DjangoCat brianshell Wed, 06/13/2018 - 20:55 Permalink

Taking out the heads would look like a coup.  Forces would rally, chaos ensue, just what ((they)) want.

Taking them out from the bottom up, quietly, until the pile of evidence is so high, it becomes unstable, landslides down on ((them), and ((they)) are blown away like dust in the wind.  To be banished forever, and not remembered except in myth.


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glenlloyd Pure Evil Wed, 06/13/2018 - 13:52 Permalink

Absolutely this is the situation!

Obama gets a non-deal for nuclear proliferation from Iran that's worthless and all the media and puppets fawn all over him.

Trump BEGINS to talk to NK about de-nuclearization and it's not enough for these asshats? FFS he hasn't even begun to negotiate yet.

I agree, the Dems are falling apart and the sooner they implode the better IMO.

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Slimedon1 sanctificado Wed, 06/13/2018 - 13:37 Permalink

This woe is me, it's all controlled, it's all a set-up stuff is the Hyper-Calvinism of politics. If you truly believe this why get out of bed in the morning? It's all pre-ordained, if the Rothschild's haven't written down your name in the big book of Zion-controlled one world order, Illuminati, Masonic CFR, Bilderburg, then there is nothing you can do. Either you're the Elect or you're not, don't even try.

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Blankenstein nope-1004 Wed, 06/13/2018 - 14:37 Permalink

Speaking of Biden

Joe Biden's niece pleaded guilty to stealing $100,000 with a borrowed credit card.

"Former Vice President Joe Biden's niece, Caroline, was back in Manhattan Criminal Court on Monday to have her felony conviction thrown out stemming from a $100,000 credit card scam"

"She also told to police while she was being arrested: 'I shouldn’t be handcuffed! You don’t know who you’re doing this to!'"



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Expendable Container nope-1004 Wed, 06/13/2018 - 20:23 Permalink

Good job exposing Joe Biden, groper in public of little girls (and wives right in front of their pathetic husbands). One wonders how he behaves with little girls out of the eye of the public or the camera if this is what he does in plain sight.

This is Israel's willing shabez goi who wants Whites to become minorities in their own nations and who wants a Zionist World Dictatorship.

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I Am Jack's Ma… Killtruck Wed, 06/13/2018 - 13:30 Permalink

no results yet on Korea, but the meeting was per se an accomplishment.  Notably, Trump got hammered by some of these same assholes when he initially cancelled.  No matter what he does, the Democrats will criticize it.  And I'm not a Republican - to some extent no matter what Obama did, you'd have the Breitbart crowd complaining...

It does seem like the Dems are worse however - what should be roundly celebrated - finally sitting down with the Norks - is somehow a bad thing...according to "liberals," mind you.

Chuck Schumer is an Israeli agent - a Jew first, whose thoughts as to Korea are filtered through the prism of Israel....  of course, there are plenty of war profiteers unhappy with anything that looks like peace threatening to break out.

But again - if he cancels needless war games, he's criticized.  If he hadn't - he'd be criticized. 

We need to remind ourselves that the mass media is in the hands of - the Left/Dems, and Zionists, in addition to multinational corporations....  but as to these, there is *plenty* of money to be made by US companies if we can start doing deals with North Korea. 


But the idea that they have to give us everything we want before we talk... this is the Israeli mindset, and it is designed to prevent any deal, any peace at all.




Worth your time:

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Scipio Africanuz Killtruck Wed, 06/13/2018 - 14:55 Permalink

They're going mad with grief, rage, frustration, and impotence. They can't believe it, they just can't believe it! That Trump, who they consider a buffoon, is way more intelligent than they are. Now, they resort to threats, obstruction, and sabotage, and I promise you, by the grace of the Living God, they will perish at the hands of Americans in November 2018!

Tick tock tick tock losers! You have been scaled, weighed, measured, evaluated, inspected, and found to be worse than useless, you're beneath utility!

Gear up my friends, we're gonna be house cleaning in November 2018!...

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Posa Killtruck Wed, 06/13/2018 - 16:03 Permalink

From the electoral point of view, Drump's initiative with NKOR is pure gold... While much of the rest of Drump's foreign policy as stated is a disaster on every level, these actions with Kim are a positive step... especially if it means US troop withdrawals from SKOR... however, for the Liberal NeoCon Deep State such action is a capital offense... sort of like Kennedy's decision to end the Cold War after the Dulles-led Deep State brought the world withing seconds of nuclear war. The Deep State won't let such disruptive action stand.

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